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TheRef
02-25-2015, 05:59 PM
Tip in about an hour and the students are having to move to the upper deck because the lower section is full. Otherwise, I would guess about 80% UK fans in here right now.
TheRef
02-25-2015, 06:01 PM
Travis Daniels rolled his ankle in practice yesterday and is listed as a game-time decision tonight.
MabenMaroon
02-25-2015, 06:10 PM
You think we might be "rope-a-doping" UK tonight?***
TheRef
02-25-2015, 06:26 PM
While the students showed up, it seems that no other MSU fans did. mostly Kentucky blue in here right now.
Coach34
02-25-2015, 06:27 PM
I may be locking this thread early tonight.
TheRef
02-25-2015, 06:30 PM
I may be locking this thread early tonight.
I hope not...
Barking 13
02-25-2015, 06:48 PM
is it on TV? I'm in GA
Coach34
02-25-2015, 06:54 PM
SECN
RougeDawg
02-25-2015, 06:55 PM
I for some odd reason think we can keep this thing close.
Either Way I am certain of one thing tonight, our team revenue should see a nice boost that should make some feel better on here.
Dawg61
02-25-2015, 06:58 PM
Kentucky is -19 tonight.
Barking 13
02-25-2015, 07:02 PM
crap.. hotel doesn't have it on direct tv
Dawg61
02-25-2015, 07:03 PM
I like the StarkVegas shirts by Adidas
chef dixon
02-25-2015, 07:04 PM
Lol is all I can say to the start of this one.
Dawg61
02-25-2015, 07:04 PM
crap.. hotel doesn't have it on direct tv
You can watch it on iPad, laptop. ESPN3
Dawg61
02-25-2015, 07:05 PM
Two timeouts already?! wtf
msstate7
02-25-2015, 07:05 PM
Fred is a total liability on offense
RougeDawg
02-25-2015, 07:05 PM
crap.. hotel doesn't have it on direct tv
May be a good thing for you based on first 45 seconds. Down 4-0 and already used two timeouts. The old Achilles Inbounds is already rearing it's ugly head.
msstate7
02-25-2015, 07:07 PM
Wow... Ware got raped there trying to defend
chef dixon
02-25-2015, 07:08 PM
We are gonna need 40 from Sword
msstate7
02-25-2015, 07:08 PM
Towns is a bull
chef dixon
02-25-2015, 07:09 PM
I don't know why Ready can't just blow by Cauley-stein on that mid court press
Dawg61
02-25-2015, 07:09 PM
Nice shot by Black
msstate7
02-25-2015, 07:09 PM
Love the move by black
Dawg61
02-25-2015, 07:10 PM
Good four minute stretch by us. 8-6 UK Sword at the line shooting two.
msstate7
02-25-2015, 07:11 PM
Nice shot by Black
If he can do that move on these guys, then he can do it on anyone
Dawg61
02-25-2015, 07:12 PM
Love the move by black
It was a pretty jump hook. I like him shooting those instead of jump shots.
msstate7
02-25-2015, 07:12 PM
Gotta be careful in this upcoming stretch. Booker will come in shooting. Can't let them spurt ahead by much
Dawg61
02-25-2015, 07:13 PM
Kentucky is gigantic
msstate7
02-25-2015, 07:14 PM
Kentucky is gigantic
And those bigs are as athletic as our guards
msstate7
02-25-2015, 07:16 PM
We're gonna have to have their bigs in foul trouble, missed FT's, and terrible 3 point shootng by them to have a shot
Dawg61
02-25-2015, 07:17 PM
Daniels dribbles the ball off his foot. 3 basic fundamentals.
chef dixon
02-25-2015, 07:18 PM
We've got nothing with Sword out of the game.
msstate7
02-25-2015, 07:18 PM
Bloodman and Fred in game together... TO's a coming
Dawg61
02-25-2015, 07:19 PM
We're gonna have to have their bigs in foul trouble
They have 12 bigs
RougeDawg
02-25-2015, 07:20 PM
How was that not a goal tending on Roq's shot he got fouled on? The ball was on the way down and the guy slapped it away. Can you not call goal tending if you are fouled on the shot and ball is still in the air? It was clearly past its highest point.
msstate7
02-25-2015, 07:22 PM
They have 12 bigs
WCS and towns... WCS is their best defensive player. Towns, we have no answer for defensively
msstate7
02-25-2015, 07:23 PM
How was that not a goal tending on Roq's shot he got fouled on? The ball was on the way down and the guy slapped it away. Can you not call goal tending if you are fouled on the shot and ball is still in the air? It was clearly past its highest point.
I don't know, but God I wish we had some shot blockers
msstate7
02-25-2015, 07:25 PM
Our chances of winning are .01. If we miss FT's, that drops to 0.0
msstate7
02-25-2015, 07:28 PM
Ray cannot put a lineup on the floor without sword or ready out there. Ray did it and we fell behind bad
RougeDawg
02-25-2015, 07:30 PM
Our chances of winning are .01. If we miss FT's, that drops to 0.0
Ware missing 2 already from point blank is not helping. Damn, we could stay in this with just a few breaks. They are shooting 53% to our 30% and we are only down 11.
Dawg61
02-25-2015, 07:31 PM
Ray cannot put a lineup on the floor without sword or ready out there. Ray did it and we fell behind bad
Kentucky is just way too big. Nobody can compete against their size. They are the biggest college team I've ever seen.
msstate7
02-25-2015, 07:32 PM
Ware missing 2 already from point blank is not helping. Damn, we could stay in this with just a few breaks. They are shooting 53% to our 30% and we are only down 11.
We miss more point blank shots than anyone I've seen this year.
msstate7
02-25-2015, 07:33 PM
Kentucky is just way too big. Nobody can compete against their size. They are the biggest college team I've ever seen.
Oh I know we're completely outmatched, but fred and bloodman at the guards will get us beat by 90% of the country. They can't handle the ball
BankerDog
02-25-2015, 07:34 PM
I feel like I'm watching Space Jam in person, they're so much longer than us. And yes, it would take a Michael Jordan for us to even be in this game. I miss being in these games just a few short years ago. Travis Daniels has no business on the court with these guys.
I do have to say though, I have liked what I have seen out of Oliver Black. He will be a decent player one. We really need some shooters and someone to create their own shot. I hope Weatherspoon is all you guys are hyping him up to be.
msstate7
02-25-2015, 07:36 PM
Why kentucky shoots from outside I don't know. No one can hold their big men
codeDawg
02-25-2015, 07:38 PM
We just need to keep going to the hoop. We should be running in transition when we get a stop instead of setting up.
msstate7
02-25-2015, 07:38 PM
Has there been a kentucky team this good since '96?
chef dixon
02-25-2015, 07:40 PM
Refs are letting us push their big guys down low and still can't grab a rebound
Dawg61
02-25-2015, 07:40 PM
We need a better SF. Fred and Daniels are killing us.
msstate7
02-25-2015, 07:41 PM
We need a better SF. Fred and Daniels are killing us.
Houston has to be ready by next season.
Dawg61
02-25-2015, 07:41 PM
Has there been a kentucky team this good since '96?
No
msstate7
02-25-2015, 07:43 PM
Sword! Think!
Dawg61
02-25-2015, 07:44 PM
Houston has to be ready by next season.
Houston needs a lot of work on his dribbling and shooting but he does have NBA athleticism. He'd give Zach Lavine competition in the dunk contest.
msstate7
02-25-2015, 07:44 PM
Houston needs more mins. Fred and Daniels are not gonna help us turn the corner next year, but Houston might
chef dixon
02-25-2015, 07:44 PM
Houston and Black play with swag. Swag needs coaching refinement, but I like it.
msstate7
02-25-2015, 07:48 PM
Kentucky scored 110 sat. Good defensive effort
Dawg61
02-25-2015, 07:48 PM
Houston and Black play with swag. Swag needs coaching refinement, but I like it.
Agree. I want to see this lineup start from here on.
PG Ready
SG Sword
SF Houston
PF Black
C Ware
smootness
02-25-2015, 07:48 PM
Has there been a kentucky team this good since '96?
I think the Anthony Davis team was better, even if not quite as effective at times simply due to this team's size.
They were similarly difficult for college teams to beat.
RougeDawg
02-25-2015, 07:56 PM
Houston has great upside. He has some ups. We need Sword to drive at will in the 2nd half and have Ware off to the side ready for the pass if Craig gets doubled or tripled. Only way we have a chance of beating them is going right at them.
Why is IJ trying to drive and layup on these guys that have at least 12" on him? He needs to understand what we need.
smootness
02-25-2015, 07:58 PM
I don't think this UK will win it all, btw.
I think this team has better depth than they do truly top talent. Their depth and size are what beats teams, not their overall talent level.
I think they'll hit a buzzsaw at some point, and they won't be able to overcome it.
chef dixon
02-25-2015, 07:59 PM
I'm not sure we have had a game this season without a 5+ minute scoring drought
msstate7
02-25-2015, 08:01 PM
I'm not sure we have had a game this season without a 5+ minute scoring drought
If we have, it's very few. What's aggravating is we miss point blank shots all the time. We shouldn't have had a drought that long, but point blank misses
chef dixon
02-25-2015, 08:04 PM
Anyone know if Malik showed up to check out Kentucky?
msstate7
02-25-2015, 08:05 PM
That may have been our best offensive execution all year. Very nice
msstate7
02-25-2015, 08:06 PM
Anyone know if Malik showed up to check out Kentucky?
I hope so. He knows kentucky is awesome, but he'd see we're not as bad as our record indicates
msstate7
02-25-2015, 08:07 PM
FT's! Got to have them all
Dawg61
02-25-2015, 08:13 PM
Crooming it close
RougeDawg
02-25-2015, 08:13 PM
We're going to have to get on Craig's shoulders and hope he can carry us tonight.
msstate7
02-25-2015, 08:15 PM
Houston driving... If he can keep doing that, him and sword will be a nightmare to guard
chef dixon
02-25-2015, 08:15 PM
We have sort of lulled UK to sleep with a half full arena. Not quite taking advantage of it by hitting free throws here.
smootness
02-25-2015, 08:15 PM
We just need to keep rebounding like we are and continue to avoid turnovers. Only 4 TOs right now, pretty impressive.
Dawg61
02-25-2015, 08:16 PM
We're going to have to get on Craig's shoulders and hope he can carry us tonight.
Might be Houston's coming out party. He looks quick to the basket tonight.
smootness
02-25-2015, 08:19 PM
That looked like an incredibly weak call, but we don't even get a replay of it.
smootness
02-25-2015, 08:20 PM
Have to make some jump shots if we want to have a shot.
msstate7
02-25-2015, 08:20 PM
They havent missed a ft. We've missed 7. Lead is 6... We cant beat good teams missing FT's
oldwave
02-25-2015, 08:20 PM
Free throws...........
smootness
02-25-2015, 08:21 PM
They havent missed a ft. We've missed 7. Lead is 6... We cant beat good teams missing FT's
Well, realistically, we're not going to make every single one. If we could have hit 2-3 more, though, obviously that would be big here.
The problem isn't that we're not shooting FTs well, it's who is shooting them. Roquez getting to the FT line doesn't help us.
msstate7
02-25-2015, 08:21 PM
Put black in
Dawg61
02-25-2015, 08:22 PM
why does Roq miss every contested two footer?
chef dixon
02-25-2015, 08:23 PM
Man Sword is playing his ass off.
msstate7
02-25-2015, 08:23 PM
Gotta get that one black
smootness
02-25-2015, 08:23 PM
why does Roq miss every contested two footer?
He's not very skilled.
smootness
02-25-2015, 08:24 PM
We're getting good looks offensively, we just can't put it in.
Dawg61
02-25-2015, 08:24 PM
He's not very skilled.
Lol true story
CJDAWG85
02-25-2015, 08:27 PM
We need the rims from the Sad Pad... Goodness our shots are hitting them and flying off
chef dixon
02-25-2015, 08:28 PM
Well, realistically, we're not going to make every single one. If we could have hit 2-3 more, though, obviously that would be big here.
The problem isn't that we're not shooting FTs well, it's who is shooting them. Roquez getting to the FT line doesn't help us.
Roq shoots 70% from FT; actually pretty decent.
Dawg61
02-25-2015, 08:28 PM
5 second violation
msstate7
02-25-2015, 08:28 PM
I'm not gonna miss fred
smootness
02-25-2015, 08:30 PM
Roq shoots 70% from FT; actually pretty decent.
But he definitely has stretches like this. I'm just saying, it doesn't surprise when a guy like him misses several. If it's Ready, it's a different story.
Dawg61
02-25-2015, 08:30 PM
I'm not gonna miss fred
+1
rcsteph1
02-25-2015, 08:32 PM
Well There's your 5+ min scoring drought
RougeDawg
02-25-2015, 08:32 PM
Our second 5+ minute scoring drought of the game. Cannot have just one of those a game and hope to win. We have now gone at minimum 25% of this game without scoring a point, with 25% left.
bluelightstar
02-25-2015, 08:32 PM
Fortunately, this is the part where Cal feels sorry for us and calls off the dogs.
Dawg61
02-25-2015, 08:33 PM
5 second violation again
Irondawg
02-25-2015, 08:33 PM
What's amazing is that against the longest, most athletic team we play we can limit turnovers
rcsteph1
02-25-2015, 08:35 PM
And we can't buy a free throw
msstate7
02-25-2015, 08:36 PM
Fortunately, this is the part where Cal feels sorry for us and calls off the dogs.
Who exactly is he gonna put in to "call off the dogs"?
smootness
02-25-2015, 08:36 PM
What's amazing is that against the longest, most athletic team we play we can limit turnovers
Kentucky's a weird team, though. The Harrison twins are tall and long but not overly athletic and not really great defenders. Booker and Ulis aren't that big.
Then you have a bunch of centers, really. They're really athletic for guys 7 feet tall, but they're not really guys who are going to get into passing lanes and get a bunch of steals.
It's just a strange team to me. They're talented, but I think there are definitely teams who can put 5 guys on the court more talented than what UK offers. But at the same time, they're ridiculously huge and it's a guarantee your second team won't match up at all with theirs.
ETA: They miss Poythress for this reason. He gave them an option that was tall and long and could go guard guys on the perimeter and shut them down. He also gave them a slasher on offense. They're missing that right now.
smootness
02-25-2015, 08:36 PM
Who exactly is he gonna put in to "call off the dogs"?
Haha I thought the same thing. Their 8-12 would still beat us without too much problem.
msstate7
02-25-2015, 08:37 PM
Incredibly dumb move by sword. Did he really think he was gonna dunk over him?
chef dixon
02-25-2015, 08:38 PM
Incredibly dumb move by sword. Did he really think he was gonna dunk over him?
What do you really want him to do though? He's playing hard and knows the ineptitude that results when he passes it to someone else who isn't wide open under the basket.
BankerDog
02-25-2015, 08:39 PM
At least he had the balls to do it. No one else on this team does.
msstate7
02-25-2015, 08:40 PM
What do you really want him to do though? He's playing hard and knows the ineptitude that results when he passes it to someone else who isn't wide open under the basket.
I'm not mad at sword. I don't even fault him for trying, but I really wonder if he thought he was gonna pull that off
Dawg61
02-25-2015, 08:40 PM
Kentucky pushed Kyle Wiltjer out the door. He just scored 45 for Gonzaga the other day. He wouldn't be in their top 10
msstate7
02-25-2015, 08:40 PM
At least he had the balls to do it. No one else on this team does.
Houston does
smootness
02-25-2015, 08:41 PM
Gotta love the obvious 3-step layups that aren't called.
smootness
02-25-2015, 08:42 PM
Kentucky pushed Kyle Wiltjer out the door. He just scored 45 for Gonzaga the other day. He wouldn't be in their top 10
Oh, yes he would.
Rayburn8
02-25-2015, 08:43 PM
They really out talent us, but I find it funny that when we cut to four the refs swallow their whistles and let Kentucky maul us.
Dawg61
02-25-2015, 08:44 PM
Houston!! I love this kid!
BankerDog
02-25-2015, 08:44 PM
He just did didn't he? Haha. Once he can become consistent he'll be a player.
Fred looked good right there those two possessions. Nice 3 and a nice shot that he created. I can't believe how a guy who shot 37% from 3 in a career hasn't done that well in college. I think he has been thinking way too much.
msstate7
02-25-2015, 08:44 PM
Houston has to play more from here out
Dawg61
02-25-2015, 08:47 PM
He just did didn't he? Haha. Once he can become consistent he'll be a player.
Fred looked good right there those two possessions. Nice 3 and a nice shot that he created. I can't believe how a guy who shot 37% from 3 in a career hasn't done that well in college. I think he has been thinking way too much.
He's a very poor ball-handler. He can not create his own shot making his offense very limited.
Dawg61
02-25-2015, 08:48 PM
Booker is damn good
smootness
02-25-2015, 08:48 PM
He just did didn't he? Haha. Once he can become consistent he'll be a player.
Fred looked good right there those two possessions. Nice 3 and a nice shot that he created. I can't believe how a guy who shot 37% from 3 in a career hasn't done that well in college. I think he has been thinking way too much.
Fred's ok. He's now 2-4 from 3 tonight and is at 33% on the season. Not what we thought he'd be, but an ok shooter who can get hot. I agree that it's a little strange he's never taken off but I don't know what the answer is.
msstate7
02-25-2015, 08:50 PM
Booker is damn good
Pro shooter in college
msstate7
02-25-2015, 08:51 PM
On a team of bad shooters, bloodman takes the cake
Rayburn8
02-25-2015, 08:57 PM
On a team of bad shooters, bloodman takes the cake
That bad?
MabenMaroon
02-25-2015, 08:59 PM
HA!! 17*u Vegas, 19 pt. favorite my ass!
RougeDawg
02-25-2015, 08:59 PM
Vegas was spot on, once again. Amazing how close they are, even with these large spreads.
MabenMaroon
02-25-2015, 09:09 PM
Ain't that the truth!
tcdog70
02-25-2015, 09:13 PM
Incredibly dumb move by sword. Did he really think he was gonna dunk over him?
Chicken attacking the Rim is what kept us close. He was trying to get to the free throw line.
tcdog70
02-25-2015, 09:20 PM
Houston driving... If he can keep doing that, him and sword will be a nightmare to guard
Put them in together and let them attack the rim. That would be our best option for offense.
msstate7
02-25-2015, 09:21 PM
Put them in together and let them attack the rim. That would be our best option for offense.
I agree.
msstate7
02-25-2015, 09:22 PM
Chicken attacking the Rim is what kept us close. He was trying to get to the free throw line.
I guess so. He just had the ball cocked back like he was gonna dunk on that monster
tcdog70
02-25-2015, 09:26 PM
We miss more point blank shots than anyone I've seen this year.
7 just a question have you ever played down low and had guys 4 inches taller contesting all your shots. It ain't as easy as you think.
We have a 4 playing a 5 and a 3playing 4.
tcdog70
02-25-2015, 09:31 PM
Agree. I want to see this lineup start from here on.
PG Ready
SG Sword
SF Houston
PF Black
C Ware
Why not, I thought so ten games ago.
msstate7
02-25-2015, 09:36 PM
7 just a question have you ever played down low and had guys 4 inches taller contesting all your shots. It ain't as easy as you think.
We have a 4 playing a 5 and a 3playing 4.
No, I havent. I don't think ware is a 4 though
Bully13
02-25-2015, 09:40 PM
I miss drugs, no discipline, bitchin' about no sweet 16's and fights in HI.
tcdog70
02-26-2015, 12:16 AM
No, I havent. I don't think ware is a 4 though
He is a power forward , his best shot is. 12-15 jumper. He is a Wiley Peck - Russell Walters- type player. He is 6-8" going tonight against 7'.
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