Dawgs v Tennessee game thread

[DudyDawg]

Game tips in 5 minutes on SECNetwork. I certainly don't expect another 14 point loss to them the way we've played lately and the way they shot. Should be a good one. Hope we handle zone well. Chicken getting to the rim and creating dunks for the bigs and 3s for IJ and Travis/Fred (whoever is playing better) will be the deciding factor offensively IMO. Oh, and not turning it over like it's going out of style. Let's keep the momentum moving

[Dawg61]

We are going to win tonight.

[chef dixon]

Our team is so hard to watch with the turnovers.... but i'm about to try.

[DudyDawg]

Their arena looks empty. Like, Hump, empty

[Rayburn8]

Ted Valentine is the official we are screwed.

[DudyDawg]

UT starts in a 1-3-1

[DudyDawg]

We've picked up full court, which I like a lot as long as we stay out of foul trouble

[Dawg61]

#4 for Tennessee got hurt. Anyone care to look up who #4 is? Thx

[TheRef]

#4 for Tennessee got hurt. Anyone care to look up who #4 is? Thx

Armani Moore.

6' 5", 215 lbs. Junior Forward

[chef dixon]

Oliver Black is the most freshman freshman i've ever seen.

[CadaverDawg]

Fred Thomas frustrates the hell out of me. Lazy pass and a stupid attempt at a charge, and he makes a bad play even worse.

[DudyDawg]

Fred Thomas frustrates the hell out of me. Lazy pass and a stupid attempt at a charge, and he makes a bad play even worse.

Was just about to post how lazy his passes have been so far tonight

[engie]

Yeah, Fred is as mental as any player of ours I can remember...

One thing I'm noticing -- when things go bad for us, we're stopping the bleeding quicker...

[msstate7]

How is wearing sword's jersey shooting from the outside?

[CadaverDawg]

Swords 3 point shot is improving by the game it seems

[chef dixon]

Sword is unstoppable if he's hitting that J.

[Coach34]

Oliver Black is going to be a good basketball player

[DudyDawg]

When they are in that 2-3 matchup zone, that play we just got Craig a 3 on will be open all night. Run it a few times, then fake the pass to Craig and hit the short corner. All night

[Coach34]

We just cant seem to get our hands on loose balls...happens every damn game

[msstate7]

Oliver Black is going to be a good basketball player

Yes he is.

[engie]

Sword is developing nicely as a shooter...

They are backing off Ready too. He's had a slow trigger tonight for whatever reason...

[chef dixon]

This line up is suspect.

[mic]

RR is doing what I said he can't do..
Have IJ , Gavin, and Sword on the bench all at once..
This is a huge 4-5 minutes

[DistrictDawg92]

Is be willing to bet we give up more offensive rebounds than any other SEC team.

[DistrictDawg92]

Fred has had a hot hand in recent games feed him!

[DudyDawg]

Houston is a FREAK

[Coach34]

Thats an awful rebounding team on the floor

[chef dixon]

Roquez has got to be smarter than that even if that guy thugged him up. And damn Houston, stop being so athletic.

[engie]

I dunno why we demand to go 1A/1B...

[Dawg61]

Armani Moore.

6' 5", 215 lbs. Junior Forward

He was their best player vs Auburn. He's back in the game tho so UT dodged a bullet.

[DistrictDawg92]

I would like to see D. Houston go up for a fade in the corner of the endzone via Dak.

[HailState39110]

Things are starting to get chippy out there. Dogs are playing physical . I like it

[mic]

Houston is a FREAK

Yes!! If he works on his offensive game from 15-20 he is going to be hell....

[Dawg61]

Houston is a FREAK

He has Moody hops

[chef dixon]

Jesus christ who gets a 5 second call anymore?

[engie]

Holy shit get the ball in bounds...

[DudyDawg]

Would rather a 5 second call than a timeout or live ball turnover.


We HAVE to attack the two short corners against their 1-3-1

[DistrictDawg92]

Holy shit get the ball in bounds...

Anyone have a legit answer why we struggle so badly to get the ball in?

[chef dixon]

We are almost unwatchable. I don't understand how we could possibly be winning, I guess keep shooting lights out boys.

[messageboardsuperhero]

Christ almighty, if we could consistently control the basketball offensively and get good shots consistently, we'd be a pretty damn solid team.

[msstate7]

I know it's probably not gonna happen, but could you imagine sword and malik together?

[DudyDawg]

I really like what ray has done with ready taking it out after makes. Puts a good passer there and immediately puts him behind the ball to break the press

[I seen it dawg]

Just a comment but why in the hell is officiating so damn bad.

[TheRef]

How did he get called for a block there? HOW

[chef dixon]

This type of play is not sustainable. Ray has got to do something in practice that will actually reduce our sloppiness with the ball.

[TheRef]

Just a comment but why in the hell is officiating so damn bad.

Two words: Ted Valentine

[msstate7]

Just a comment but why in the hell is officiating so damn bad.

They were wrestling earlier and no fouls. Now they're calling everything

[TheRef]

They were wrestling earlier and no fouls. Now they're calling everything

Inconsistent officiating....SO DAMN FRUSTRATING

[chef dixon]

Fred is bringing it tonight man.

[msstate7]

Fred is bringing it tonight man.

I just wish he wasn't such a liability handling the ball

[DistrictDawg92]

I know it's probably not gonna happen, but could you imagine sword and malik together?

I think we are a tourney team with Malik.

PG- Ready, Malik, Tookie
SG- Malik, Sword, whitherspoon, dunlap, Fred
SF/G- Houston, Daniels, Fred, Zuppardo
Big men- Ware, Black, Ndoye, Struggs, Zappardo

That's a team that could beat anyone

[chef dixon]

I just wish he wasn't such a liability handling the ball

That's pretty much everybody on our roster though

[DudyDawg]

Let's see what Ray can do calling a TO w thirty seconds to call a play....

[Dawg61]

Tennessee that has like one player taller than 6'7 has TEN offensive rebounds right now.

[DudyDawg]

Great call Rick. Looked like a stagger ball screen and rolling Roq To the rim after for cleanup gets a wide open jumper, doesn't fall, ray puts roq right there to follow up. Give him credit.

Now, clean up the offensive glass and we can win the game no doubt

[drunkernhelldawg]

This type of play is not sustainable. Ray has got to do something in practice that will actually reduce our sloppiness with the ball.

I don't understand this. We're up. If we focus on just controlling the ball, we might be giving up something else. I'm also baffled that you often call our team "unwatchable". I'd love to have a perfect team, but college basketball is usually a game of runs. We've put a few good one together these last several games.

[Dawg61]

We're 12-19 FG and UT is 12-32.

[engie]

Good inbounds play there...

[DudyDawg]

Second half starts w two chicken FTs

[msstate7]

We're 12-19 FG and UT is 12-32.

Be hard to sustain that. Got to rebound better

[chef dixon]

I don't understand this. We're up. If we focus on just controlling the ball, we might be giving up something else. I'm also baffled that you often call our team "unwatchable". I'd love to have a perfect team, but college basketball is usually a game of runs. We've put a few good one together these last several games.

We turnover the ball on 23% of our possessions. Its what got us against Ole Miss. We don't play sloppy and we are blowing this team out right now.

[CadaverDawg]

Score? I had to leave

[DudyDawg]

Good block call. Kid bailed, and had a foot in the line. Four fouls on Owens. As long as we rebound on both ends we will be okay

[DudyDawg]

Score? I had to leave

36-32

[CadaverDawg]

36-32

Us or them?

[rcsteph1]

We give up way too many offensive rebounds

[chef dixon]

We are playing awesome defense that's for sure, the rebounds will start bouncing our way.

[messageboardsuperhero]

Damnit guys. If we could rebound we'd be in great shape.

ETA: I like how we're attacking the bucket right now though.

[rcsteph1]

We are up. Ware shooting free throws 37-32

[drunkernhelldawg]

us

[msstate7]

We give up way too many offensive rebounds

We do have to rebound better, but some are just long rebounds off bad misses

[DudyDawg]

Us, cadaver


They have four fouls in two minutes. Gotta take advantage kf that too

[I seen it dawg]

After all that give up a foul. ****ing block out!!!!!!!

[CadaverDawg]

Us, cadaver


They have four fouls in two minutes. Gotta take advantage kf that too

Thanks. Counting on y'all for score updates

[HoopsDawg]

We do have to rebound better, but some are just long rebounds off bad misses

We are a rebounder and a shooter away from having a pretty good team.

[HoopsDawg]

After all that give up a foul. ****ing block out!!!!!!!

Yeah, that was a great defensive possession, have to finish with the rebound.

[messageboardsuperhero]

They're getting about three shots per offensive possession... And we're still up by 8.

[chef dixon]

40-32

[engie]

They are pretty damn close to putting us into the bonus with 16:51 to go... Gonna have to make freethrows....

[messageboardsuperhero]

Rebound the ****ing basketball.

[HoopsDawg]

Rebound the ****ing basketball.

It's amazing to me how a great athlete like Fred Thomas just drops the damn ball out of bounds.

[CadaverDawg]

40-32

Thanks chef

[I seen it dawg]

We are whipping their ass and can't pull away bc we refuse to put an ass on somebody on the boards. So damn frustrating. Got to be more physical in the paint.

[DudyDawg]

Roq is getting whooped by Moore. Isn't he a freshman? Horrible

[msstate7]

Sword on bench with 3 fouls. Danger zone here

[DudyDawg]

It's amazing to me how a great athlete like Fred Thomas just drops the damn ball out of bounds.

100% on ready. Can't bounce it at his toes. Gotta make a better pass than that

[Dawg61]

We should offer the 2nd best player on Callaway and maybe we'll land both Newman and him.

[engie]

This team would be dangerous as hell with better offensive fundamentals and rebounding...

We have to keep Houston in here for rebounding IMO....

[TheRef]

Roq is getting whooped by Moore. Isn't he a freshman? Horrible

Armani Moore is a Junior.

[DudyDawg]

Ray seems to have fixed the out of bounds problems other than the 5 second call. See if we keep doing those well

[DudyDawg]

Armani Moore is a Junior.

Same thing..... Haha.

He's still 6'5. No excuse

[DudyDawg]

Ready, bloodman, and houston in. Ready needs to realize he's got to be the scorer here. 40-38 we are struggling

[chef dixon]

40-39. It DIRECTLY correlates with us starting to turn the ball over again.

[Dawg61]

HOLY SHIT INBOUNDS THE ****ING BALL!!!!!!!!

[msstate7]

Got to get sword back in game

[HoopsDawg]

Got to get sword back in game

Yep, Thomas just had a bad stretch. And we can' win with Bloodman and Ready in together.

[HoopsDawg]

Got to get sword back in game

Got to get Bloodman out of there.

[DudyDawg]

Damn. We got lucky on that call. Valentine sucks at the whole refereeing thing

[engie]

There's #6 on UT...

[DudyDawg]

We are in serious trouble. That steal was huge

[engie]

In the bonus...

MAKE FREETHROWS.

[chef dixon]

41-41. No FG's for us in the half so far.

[engie]

Has Ready taken a shot all game?

[rcsteph1]

Sloppy 2nd half. Brought the crowd right back into it

[DudyDawg]

Let's keep throwing bounce passes at our teammates ankles. It's the little things man. Horrible

[sandwolf]

Got to get Bloodman out of there.

Yea, I am definitely not a basketball guru, but I never see that guy make much of a contribution.

[starkvegasdawg]

Our patented scoring drought.

[I seen it dawg]

Fn brutal officiating. Brutal

[engie]

In the bonus, get to the damn rim!!!

[Dawg61]

We have a brand new shiny turnover machine. It's named Demetrious Houston.

[DudyDawg]

Gotta feed ware and Roq. Gotta get it inside

[msstate7]

In the bonus, get to the damn rim!!!

Sword and ready have to drive more

[I seen it dawg]

2 steals in a row we've gotten and got fouled with no calls. Grab Ij jersey and hacked on the other one.

[DudyDawg]

Gotta feed ware and Roq. Gotta get it inside

Also, looks like Craig took some time during his injury to look at his jumpshot. He's been money since he got healthy

[RougeDawg]

Team has 0.0000 discipline. Get a turnover and we go "Full Jamont Gordon" out of control and give it right back. I continue to see way to many mistakes for me to even think about getting behind Ray.

I made FG in the last 11+ minutes? Pee wee teams don't have that little offensive output.

[chef dixon]

47-43 us. Sword is carrying us with some big 3's.

[msstate7]

Love sword hitting 3's. Hope he doesn't start settling for jumpshots though. Need him to drive

[chef dixon]

FRED

[engie]

I'm surprised when Black hits the inside of the rim on freethrows...

[Dawg61]

We are 7-9 on threes

[DudyDawg]

Team has 0.0000 discipline. Get a turnover and we go "Full Jamont Gordon" out of control and give it right back. I continue to see way to many mistakes for me to even think about getting behind Ray.

I made FG in the last 11+ minutes? Pee wee teams don't have that little offensive output.

Still up 8. Says something for a bad team to play that hard defensively. Not saying we should offer ray an extension or anything, but there's two sides of the coin

[DudyDawg]

Weakkkkk charge to give Fred his fourth

[chef dixon]

Sword is the best player on the court

[CadaverDawg]

Score? Time? Thanks

[msstate7]

Score? Time? Thanks

Up 5 8:36 to go

[TheRef]

Score? Time? Thanks

8:45 2nd

MSU 51

UT 46

[CadaverDawg]

Up 5 8:36 to go

Thanks

[engie]

Donnie's ass doesn't do anything on the sidelines but raise the roof...

This is a freethrow and foul out shooting contest from here on out. This 8:30 is going to take an hour....

[DudyDawg]

Moore still in with four. ATTACK him he's been killing us

[chef dixon]

53-46 8 mins to go. Another turnover for us, back court violation

[TheRef]

Sword with 20 points

FTF has 17

[msstate7]

Need something out of Daniels

[DudyDawg]

We need to make Moore foul out

[War Machine Dawg]

Gotta make free throws. This game is turning into whack-a-mole - foul whoever has the ball.

[msstate7]

Big FT's there

[chef dixon]

Richardson picks Ready's pocket and slams it home. We answer with 2 FT's from Sword. Up 58-54, 5 mins left.

[engie]

Damn it Ready... 4th foul on some dumb crap...

[HoopsDawg]

Gotta make free throws. This game is turning into whack-a-mole - foul whoever has the ball.

damn Ready and Fred with 4 each, here comes bloodman. Put Houston on Richardson.

[msstate7]

Ready just killed us with those 2 fouls

[War Machine Dawg]

Damn, we're in trouble without Ready on the floor. Blood man is useless.

[DudyDawg]

Not sure why ready has been covering richardson. Seems like perfect matchup for houston (or fred or chicken if they didn't have four)

[msstate7]

I'd put fred in

[chef dixon]

SWORD!!!

[War Machine Dawg]

CHICKEN!!!

[msstate7]

Boom

[engie]

Holy shit Sword!!!!

[Dawg61]

Fred hurt? He has been sitting for awhile.

[DudyDawg]

I'd put fred in

Try to survive past the after 4 TO w out him or ready

[smootness]

My. Gosh. Sword.

[DudyDawg]

Fred hurt? He has been sitting for awhile.

4 fouls

[HoopsDawg]

Fred hurt? He has been sitting for awhile.

we let that kid for UGA beat us and tonight we are letting richardson beat us. 30 points.

[msstate7]

Daniels has been MIA the last few games

[chef dixon]

63-58. 3 mins left.

[engie]

Daniels plays like he's a freshman...

[engie]

We got murdered 4 times on that last possession. Ridiculous.

[HoopsDawg]

Daniels has been MIA the last few games

Daniels is what he is, know what I mean.

[msstate7]

Do you put ready back in now?

[Statefan]

How is that not a foul on Tennessee???

[War Machine Dawg]

Daniels plays like he's a freshman...

He basically is. Need him to get it working if we're going to play to our full potential.

[Dawg61]

We are 18-32 FG and 8-11 on 3's. Wow!! 17 turnovers and getting destroyed on the glass though.

[TheRef]

Johnson getting murdered down low with no fouls being called on Tenn.

[HoopsDawg]

My. Gosh. Sword.

I hope Malik is watching this and sees what we can be with he and Sword next year.

[DudyDawg]

Let's see if ray can teach them to finish. This could be a big win if we can finish them gotta attack that zone and knock down FTs. Can't just pass it around 25 feet away.

[msstate7]

How is that not a foul on Tennessee???

They on the bubble. We not

[HoopsDawg]

Do you put ready back in now?

Yes

[engie]

We are 18-32 FG and 8-11 on 3's. Wow!! 17 turnovers and getting destroyed on the glass though.

Beggars can't be choosers! lol

[msstate7]

I hope Malik is watching this and sees what we can be with he and Sword next year.

We'd have a sick backcourt

[Dawg61]

we let that kid for UGA beat us and tonight we are letting richardson beat us. 30 points.

Richardson is limping too. He had to stretch for five minutes before the 2nd half. He's at like 60% right now.

[chef dixon]

Roquez should have been T'd up on that ha

[DudyDawg]

Looks like Ray passed the inbound voodoo to tenn

[RougeDawg]

Still up 8. Says something for a bad team to play that hard defensively. Not saying we should offer ray an extension or anything, but there's two sides of the coin

Yes but we can't afford to give anything away.

[War Machine Dawg]

We desperately need a score here. Stretching it to 7 would be huge.

[msstate7]

Speaking of malik... Would we play him at 1,2, or 3?

[War Machine Dawg]

Fred!!!!!

[chef dixon]

Fred I love you.

[msstate7]

Haha!!!!

[engie]

HUGE!!!

[DudyDawg]

Hahahahah WE FINALLY GOT A BREAK!!! First time in three years

[HoopsDawg]

Speaking of malik... Would we play him at 1,2, or 3?

The 1 and the 2.

[TheRef]

Bye bye Armani Moore

[HoopsDawg]

Fred I love you.

When Fred comes to play and shoots like this, we are tough to beat. Gavin has layed an egg tonight and they have 20 more attempts than us, 20 and we are going to win.

[chef dixon]

Really stupid ass shot by Tennessee.

[msstate7]

I'm proud of this team. 2 straight vs potential ncaa teams

[War Machine Dawg]

Are you kidding me?! Talk about a miracle bank-in 3.

[RougeDawg]

Ok the real question is this "Where was this team the first two months of the season?". And question two is " Who is responsible for us playing so badly early on?"

[messageboardsuperhero]

Fred, why do you need to make that pass?

[rcsteph1]

Just get fouled and go make your free throws trying to get cute and turning ball over will get you beat on the road.

[War Machine Dawg]

Ok the real question is this "Where was this team the first two months of the season?". And question two is " Who is responsible for us playing so badly early on?"

It's called 2 of our 4 best players are finally healthy. 1 of those 2 being Chicken, our best player.

[msstate7]

Ok the real question is this "Where was this team the first two months of the season?". And question two is " Who is responsible for us playing so badly early on?"

Sword and ready not healthy. Ware missed games. Still shoulda won, but it's the truth

[engie]

3 of our 5 starters basically didn't show up -- and we're 15.5 seconds from taking down a bubble team on the road in a very tough place to play....

[HoopsDawg]

Ok the real question is this "Where was this team the first two months of the season?". And question two is " Who is responsible for us playing so badly early on?"

Sword being less than 100% was the main factor. Ready not being in game shape was the 2nd factor. These 2 things combined led to Ray not having our rotations set.

[mparkerfd20]

Ok maybe I'm getting a little excited. I've been a huge critic, but I at least have hope now.

[RougeDawg]

It's called 2 of our 4 best players are finally healthy. 1 of those 2 being Chicken, our best player.

So we had no decent healthy players against directional Carolina and other comparable teams?

[smootness]

Ok the real question is this "Where was this team the first two months of the season?". And question two is " Who is responsible for us playing so badly early on?"

You are just the worst.

[CadaverDawg]

Score?!

We're gonna win?!

Ok, I'm getting excited

[HoopsDawg]

So we had no decent healthy players against directional Carolina and other comparable teams?

We still shouldn't have lost to McNeese or USC Upstate, but yes we aren't a good team without Sword and Ready 100%.

[RougeDawg]

3 of our 5 starters basically didn't show up -- and we're 15.5 seconds from taking down a bubble team on the road in a very tough place to play....

My point is, is there that much drop in talent that we can't best upstate Carolina without a couple players? We should be able to field a team from our Sanderson center to beat some of the teams we lost to early in the season.

[sandwolf]

You are just the worst.

+1

[I seen it dawg]

Wrap it. Leo to state.

[rcsteph1]

Ballgame! We get the win
71-66

[RougeDawg]

Engie I will say nice win tonight. I'm not completely sold yet but the recent progression is positive.

[engie]

Balllllgameeee!!

Yes, we should have still beat those teams. We laid eggs. It was half a season ago, nothing we can do about it now!

The Hump bout to spring to life after we go get some at Bud Walton on Saturday...

[CadaverDawg]

Holy crappola! Big win for the program

[TheRef]

Soooo....guys....we ruining some resumes this year, or what?

[HoopsDawg]

First February win since 2012, wow. Probably Ray's 2nd best win. Maybe 3rd.

[msstate7]

First February win since 2012, wow. Probably Ray's 2nd best win. Maybe 3rd.

Hopefully he gets his #1 Saturday

[engie]

First February win since 2012, wow. Probably Ray's 2nd best win. Maybe 3rd.

On the road...

It's his best win IMO...

We bout to jump bout 50 spots in the RPI...

[drunkernhelldawg]

Ok the real question is this "Where was this team the first two months of the season?". And question two is " Who is responsible for us playing so badly early on?"

I don't get the relevance of that. It'd be nice to not have had the horrible stretch, but how does reliving it forever add anything? Damn shame for sure, but damn nice to finally have a real team on the floor too.

[DudyDawg]

Engie I will say nice win tonight. I'm not completely sold yet but the recent progression is positive.
Agree. Still FARRRR from sold on Ray, but I like what I've seen the past few weeks

[HoopsDawg]

On the road...

It's his best win IMO...

We bout to jump bout 50 spots in the RPI...

That win over the Ole Miss team that made the tournament when we were playing Tyson considerable minutes was pretty amazing. Beating LSU was a strong win but yeah this one might be better than the LSU win.

[Howboutdemdogs]

No matter what happens, it seems that we have life after claiming death in round ball. Way to go guys, great win.

[thedawg]

Is there anything we can do to get on the NIT bubble or has that ship totally sailed?

[TheRef]

Is there anything we can do to get on the NIT bubble or has that ship totally sailed?

Ruin a couple more resumes

[engie]

Is there anything we can do to get on the NIT bubble or has that ship totally sailed?

We can get back there now...

Will need to win 17 and take 2 in the tourney IMO...

[tcdog70]

We can get back there now...

Will need to win 17 and take 2 in the tourney IMO...

That should do it. With Chicken and Fred both shooting we have a chance. We have to push it and take the shot. Readys man lit us up again for 30. But it looks like we can overcome His no defense if everybody else plays good. Ray might be saving his job.

[mic]

That should do it. With Chicken and Fred both shooting we have a chance. We have to push it and take the shot. Readys man lit us up again for 30. But it looks like we can overcome His no defense if everybody else plays good. Ray might be saving his job.

Did you even watch the f*cking... At no point in that games was Richardson lighting it up IJ.. NO Point..
And once again if you think and apparently u may be the only one , that thinks IJ doesn't play solid defense then You know ZERO about college basketball...

[Dawg61]

Did you even watch the f*cking... At no point in that games was Richardson lighting it up IJ.. NO Point..
And once again if you think and apparently u may be the only one , that thinks IJ doesn't play solid defense then You know ZERO about college basketball...

IJ was guarding 6'6 Richardson and Richardson did set his career high of 30 points on IJ so how on earth can you still defend the midget? He's so small dude. Nothing he can do about it. He gets OWNED on D because of his Hobbit like size.

[mic]

IJ was guarding 6'6 Richardson and Richardson did set his career high of 30 points on IJ so how on earth can you still defend the midget? He's so small dude. Nothing he can do about it. He gets OWNED on D because of his Hobbit like size.

Go back and watch and see how many times he drove past him and scored, rised up over him and scored, or posted him up and scored..
Do you all understand that when u play man-to - man defense that picks are set , players switch players, players score on zone defense, players score fast brake points .. Ect....
Just because your listed as pg against another pg doesn't mean you check that guy and if you are doesn't mean you check him the whole game..
This isn't pick up ball where you pick teams and pick a man to guard.,
Surely you 2 are smarter than this..

[Dawg61]

Go back and watch and see how many times he drove past him and scored, rised up over him and scored, or posted him up and scored..
Do you all understand that when u play man-to - man defense that picks are set , players switch players, players score on zone defense, players score fast brake points .. Ect....
Just because your listed as pg against another pg doesn't mean you check that guy and if you are doesn't mean you check him the whole game..
This isn't pick up ball where you pick teams and pick a man to guard.,
Surely you 2 are smarter than this..

You are the one that needs to watch the replay. Playing through screens is a part of defense. If a player gets swallowed up consistently he therefore is a bad defender. Hobbit like size. He's Muggsy Bogues 2.0.**

[engie]

We should probably cut him along with Black, Thomas, Ndoye, and Bloodman**

You can say he struggled to defend the biggest PG in the league without taking shots at him. I'd agree that he struggled there and overall tonight. But he was in foul trouble tonight and on the bench a ton too, so alot of that was forced timidity and also alot of it on Bloodman.

His 3rd and 4th fouls were horrid though. Really, Roq had a terrible night, not even sure Daniels got off the bus, Ware was rarely seen, Ready didn't do anything well, and we just won in a place that we NEVER won in in the recruiter's glory years...

[mic]

You are the one that needs to watch the replay. Playing through screens is a part of defense. If a player gets swallowed up consistently he therefore is a bad defender. Hobbit like size. He's Muggsy Bogues 2.0.**

like I said . No need for me to argue.. When I'm 100% correct..
The only thing you are correct about is he is 5'10 ...

[tcdog70]

We should probably cut him along with Black, Thomas, Ndoye, and Bloodman**

You can say he struggled to defend the biggest PG in the league without taking shots at him. I'd agree that he struggled there and overall tonight. But he was in foul trouble tonight and on the bench a ton too, so alot of that was forced timidity and also alot of it on Bloodman.

His 3rd and 4th fouls were horrid though. Really, Roq had a terrible night, not even sure Daniels got off the bus, Ware was rarely seen, Ready didn't do anything well, and we just won in a place that we NEVER won in in the recruiter's glory years...


Nobody is saying cut Ready. He is our best PG. But his Man has a career night every night. He has trouble guarding SEC PGs. Hell, the announcers talk about it. Richard Williams talks about it. I want Ready to be good but He is a smurf and will get lit Up. Why can some people blast Fred and Roq and Ware and it is Ok. They are the main reasons we are winning, besides Chicken. Ready is a great free throw shooter and can shoot is he is open. But He is a problem on Defense--sorry.

[Coach34]

Whoa whoa- IJ just outplayed your Josh Gray from LSU 4 days ago. Gray in no way, shape, or form had a "career day"

[Coach34]

And as Mic said- we played zone too- IJ doesn't have a man when we play zone

[tcdog70]

And as Mic said- we played zone too- IJ doesn't have a man when we play zone

I guess you don't guard the PG if you are the front man in a zone. You just dribble up to Ready and shoot over Him if you are 6'6". Come on Coach, you are not that dumb, to take up for Ready's defense. And he get's his ass lit more often than not. I'm glad he outplayed Gray. And speaking of 'YOUR BOY" when is Daniels going to become our best player, like you predicted for 2 years?

[smootness]

Ready may or may not be a bad defender, but it has little to do with him being 5'10". A 6'6" guy is just going to walk up and shoot over a 6'1" PG, too.

PGs are small.

[msstate7]

Ready may or may not be a bad defender, but it has little to do with him being 5'10". A 6'6" guy is just going to walk up and shoot over a 6'1" PG, too.

PGs are small.
Oh and Richardson is 4th in the sec in scoring.

[Coach34]

I guess you don't guard the PG if you are the front man in a zone. You just dribble up to Ready and shoot over Him if you are 6'6". Come on Coach, you are not that dumb, to take up for Ready's defense. And he get's his ass lit more often than not. I'm glad he outplayed Gray. And speaking of 'YOUR BOY" when is Daniels going to become our best player, like you predicted for 2 years?

Daniels has been a ***** so far. He shows flashes and then retreats into his shell. Disappointing for sure

[tcdog70]

Oh and Richardson is 4th in the sec in scoring.


is He averaging 30 a game?

[tcdog70]

Ready may or may not be a bad defender, but it has little to do with him being 5'10". A 6'6" guy is just going to walk up and shoot over a 6'1" PG, too.

PGs are small.

what about Dee Bost-Jamont Gordon-Timmy Bowers-TJ Honore-Butch Pierre-marcus Bullard--not too small.

[TheRef]

is He averaging 30 a game?

He averages 16.2 PPG

[Dawg61]

Ready may or may not be a bad defender, but it has little to do with him being 5'10". A 6'6" guy is just going to walk up and shoot over a 6'1" PG, too.

PGs are small.

If Ready is 5'10 I'm 7'0

[Dawg61]

Ready is a good player. He is a huge reason for our turnaround BUTTTTTTTTTTTT he is a MAJOR liability on defense, inbounds plays and bringing the ball upto half-court. JRich robbed him blind last night and tomahawk dunked it in his face for payday. Sword was more effective bringing the ball up late in the game when UT was in full-court press than IJ. He's only a soph and I'm very pleased with Ready's development so don't take my post the wrong way. However we do need a big PG to backup Ready when the other team has a 6'6 full grown man as their PG.

[HancockCountyDog]

No one is going to believe, I did not watch a minute of the UT or LSU game. So far, every game I haven't watched since our turnaround - we have won.

I will be watching the UK game just to make sure I don't screw around with the karma, but holy shit, this is kind of funny.

[Coach34]

our back-up PG is going to be a 5'10 Tookie- Monster

[Dawg61]

Tookie- Monster

Haha brilliant!!

[smootness]

what about Dee Bost-Jamont Gordon-Timmy Bowers-TJ Honore-Butch Pierre-marcus Bullard--not too small.

Jamont Gordon - played there out of necessity, was never a natural PG; he had some advantages there and some disadvantages.
Dee Bost - 6'2"
Timmy Bowers - 6'2" and another tweener
TJ Honore - 6'1"

Yes, these guys were all bigger than Ready, but none of the above outside of Gordon was really big as a PG. They would all struggle to keep a 6'6" guy from shooting over them.

Yes, obviously Ready is smaller than a majority of PGs. But you act like no one has ever played a small PG in college with success. There is a long list of sub-6'0" college PGs who have been great while in college. Some a good bit smaller than Ready, even.

[tcdog70]

Ready is a good player. He is a huge reason for our turnaround BUTTTTTTTTTTTT he is a MAJOR liability on defense, inbounds plays and bringing the ball upto half-court. JRich robbed him blind last night and tomahawk dunked it in his face for payday. Sword was more effective bringing the ball up late in the game when UT was in full-court press than IJ. He's only a soph and I'm very pleased with Ready's development so don't take my post the wrong way. However we do need a big PG to backup Ready when the other team has a 6'6 full grown man as their PG.

Thank you--you summed it up nicely. Shit we are all for IJ but it is what it is. I am glad to have Him when the other team fouls late--because He is money at the FT line and that means a lot. But if in the future we are planning on making the big dance, we will have to have a PG that can defend.

[msstate7]

our back-up PG is going to be a 5'10 Tookie- Monster

I'm holding out hope that ready will be our backup pg to malik.

[tcdog70]

Jamont Gordon - played there out of necessity, was never a natural PG; he had some advantages there and some disadvantages.
Dee Bost - 6'2"
Timmy Bowers - 6'2" and another tweener
TJ Honore - 6'1"

Yes, these guys were all bigger than Ready, but none of the above outside of Gordon was really big as a PG. They would all struggle to keep a 6'6" guy from shooting over them.

Yes, obviously Ready is smaller than a majority of PGs. But you act like no one has ever played a small PG in college with success. There is a long list of sub-6'0" college PGs who have been great while in college. Some a good bit smaller than Ready, even.

Smoot, I am talking about Ready not some small PG at another School. Sure some small PG can defend just not Ready or Bloodman.There is a lot of difference from 6'1" to 5'9". Whatever the reason jamont played He was All-SEC and if we had Jamont as our PG today we would be playing in the post season. Smoot surely you can see the liabilties of Ready--trouble inbounding and trouble defending. I hope he improves , because He will have to if we are to be a Post Season team.

[Dawg61]

I'm holding out hope that ready will be our backup pg to malik.

I'll take Dimencio Vaughn too please.

http://www.maxpreps.com/athlete/dimencio-vaughn/oLrFYT7kEeS00gAmVebEWg/default.htm

[smootness]

I didn't say Ready was a good defender, I said 'Ready can't defend because he's small' has been proven false by other small PGs through the years.

If he's a bad defender, it's mostly due to other factors, not his height.

[DudyDawg]

Bloodman is a good defender. Ready is average. He had no chance tho last night due to the height.

[tcdog70]

Smoot, not being an ass , asking this question--Have you ever played basketball? When I played if someone 4 inches shorter was guarding Me, I would score pretty easily over Him. When I coached, if my opponents were trying to guard a player with someone 4 inches shorter , I would post Him up everytime. Being short matters.

[engie]

I get both sides of this argument -- just don't really see the point in arguing it.

The reason that we got lit up last night was on second and 3rd chance opportunities. When you give up offensive rebounds off deep balls, plays are essentially broken down, and you are 1-2 passes away from an open 3. That's why we absolutely can't afford to give up the rebounds that we did last night.

The killer thing to me is -- we played like crap last night as a team -- and beat a bubble team on the road. The Road Warrior group never won in Tennessee(we didn't play there in 04), but never beat them up there in any of the years that Stansbury took us dancing. It was a huge ass accomplishment. And we only REALLY had ONE player show up -- Sword. Thomas's shot showed up -- but his handle and passing sure didn't -- and he had like 7 turnovers. THAT is the most encouraging part of all this. We have one guy shooting -- even if everyone else is having shitty games -- we can beat every team in the conference at every venue in the conference sans UK and mayyybe Arkansas. That's tremendous progress in a short period of time...

[tcdog70]

I get both sides of this argument -- just don't really see the point in arguing it.

The reason that we got lit up last night was on second and 3rd chance opportunities. When you give up offensive rebounds off deep balls, plays are essentially broken down, and you are 1-2 passes away from an open 3. That's why we absolutely can't afford to give up the rebounds that we did last night.

The killer thing to me is -- we played like crap last night as a team -- and beat a bubble team on the road. The Road Warrior group never won in Tennessee(we didn't play there in 04), but never beat them up there in any of the years that Stansbury took us dancing. It was a huge ass accomplishment. And we only REALLY had ONE player show up -- Sword. Thomas's shot showed up -- but his handle and passing sure didn't -- and he had like 7 turnovers. THAT is the most encouraging part of all this. We have one guy shooting -- even if everyone else is having shitty games -- we can beat every team in the conference at every venue in the conference sans UK and mayyybe Arkansas. That's tremendous progress in a short period of time...


You are right, not gonna argue. Just be glad we are winning