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Dawg61
02-01-2015, 02:42 PM
whose getting his scholarship next year? cause it's obvious he gone.

msstate7
02-01-2015, 02:48 PM
How you figure?

HoopsDawg
02-01-2015, 02:54 PM
whose getting his scholarship next year? cause it's obvious he gone.

We are looking at a Juco guard and of course Malik. If we were to sign one of them then a current player would have to be released.

Dawg61
02-01-2015, 03:10 PM
How you figure?

Cause he's already played this year burning his shirt yet he hasn't played at all since rumors of a fight happening and him getting injured.

starkvegasdawg
02-01-2015, 03:46 PM
He was injured in practice when another player undercut him on a drive to the basket...allegedly on purpose. Never heard anything regarding a fight. I do know he's been medically cleared since around the Vandy game and unhappy with no playing time.

Coach34
02-01-2015, 03:47 PM
I dont think he deserves playing time. I like what we got going right now

starkvegasdawg
02-01-2015, 03:51 PM
I'd at least like to see if he can not be a turnover machine like some on the team.

msstate7
02-01-2015, 03:54 PM
I'd at least like to see if he can not be a turnover machine like some on the team.

I don't want him cutting into sword's mins

starkvegasdawg
02-01-2015, 03:59 PM
I think he could provide another deep threat if given a chance.

msstate7
02-01-2015, 04:01 PM
I think he could provide another deep threat if given a chance.

I think he might could too. I'd hate to switch things up right now though

Coach34
02-01-2015, 05:36 PM
I think he could provide another deep threat if given a chance.

He is 3/14 this year- let's not act like he is a sniper. He is a true freshmen and really not ready for SEC ball.

starkvegasdawg
02-01-2015, 05:53 PM
He is 3/14 this year- let's not act like he is a sniper. He is a true freshmen and really not ready for SEC ball.
And Ndoye is probably worse than that two feet from the rim. I'm not saying play him 20 minutes a game. I'd just like to see him get a few minutes out on the court. He can't make any worse mistakes than some of the reserves we trot out there now.

Dawg61
02-01-2015, 05:57 PM
He is 3/14 this year- let's not act like he is a sniper. He is a true freshmen and really not ready for SEC ball.

I'd rather him than Bloodman get Bloodman's minutes. Bloodman is a lost cause. Atleast let Dunlap chuck up 4-5 threes a game. Committ to it now and by SEC tourney time he may have calmed his nerves and will finally start making them. If we can get him, Fred and Daniels to all be hot we can beat anyone in the SEC except Kentucky. Our size, depth and athleticism is top half SEC. Our offense is the major hurdle. This last game we got a bunch of dunks from Roq and Fred and we shot FTs very well.

maroonmania
02-01-2015, 05:57 PM
And Ndoye is probably worse than that two feet from the rim. I'm not saying play him 20 minutes a game. I'd just like to see him get a few minutes out on the court. He can't make any worse mistakes than some of the reserves we trot out there now.

Well Ndoye wasn't signed for his shooting ability. Dunlap hasn't looked very good to me shooting when he has played. But I know he is only a true freshman.

HoopsDawg
02-01-2015, 06:07 PM
I'd rather him than Bloodman get Bloodman's minutes. Bloodman is a lost cause. Atleast let Dunlap chuck up 4-5 threes a game. Committ to it now and by SEC tourney time he may have calmed his nerves and will finally start making them. If we can get him, Fred and Daniels to all be hot we can beat anyone in the SEC except Kentucky. Our size, depth and athleticism is top half SEC. Our offense is the major hurdle. This last game we got a bunch of dunks from Roq and Fred and we shot FTs very well.

Nope.

Coach34
02-01-2015, 06:21 PM
I'd rather him than Bloodman get Bloodman's minutes. Bloodman is a lost cause. Atleast let Dunlap chuck up 4-5 threes a game. Committ to it now and by SEC tourney time he may have calmed his nerves and will finally start making them. If we can get him, Fred and Daniels to all be hot we can beat anyone in the SEC except Kentucky. Our size, depth and athleticism is top half SEC. Our offense is the major hurdle. This last game we got a bunch of dunks from Roq and Fred and we shot FTs very well.


Bloodman plays because he is PG to rest ready. Dunlap cant play that role. You cant just put anybody in there and pray it works out 61...damn

Dawg61
02-01-2015, 06:42 PM
Bloodman plays because he is PG to rest ready. Dunlap cant play that role. You cant just put anybody in there and pray it works out 61...damn

Slide Sword over to PG. Bloodman sucks dude.

mic
02-01-2015, 07:35 PM
Bloodman plays because he is PG to rest ready. Dunlap cant play that role. You cant just put anybody in there and pray it works out 61...damn

It has been said by me in another thread that the basketball knowledge by some on here is very little to zero.. This gives more proof of this..

Dawg61
02-01-2015, 07:41 PM
It has been said by me in another thread that the basketball knowledge by some on here is very little to zero.. This gives more proof of this..

Yea thinking Bloodman at PG is better than Sword at PG is pretty damn stupid. I agree. Smartest post you've had in a week.

chef dixon
02-01-2015, 07:42 PM
He is 3/14 this year- let's not act like he is a sniper. He is a true freshmen and really not ready for SEC ball.

34 you seem to have something against, or know something about Dunlap. I've seen you give people associated with MSU much more benefit of the doubt that have a much bigger track record of shittery. Rick Ray comes to mind.

mic
02-01-2015, 07:54 PM
Yea thinking Bloodman at PG is better than Sword at PG is pretty damn stupid. I agree. Smartest post you've had in a week.

Dunlap is a 2 guard.. Not a 1 . A 2.
If he is ready to play and can help us down the road he will play.. And it will be at the 2...
And when and if he does either IJ or Bloodman will be at the point..

No one has ever said that Sword is better or worse than Bloodman at the point .
Why can't you just enjoy the win Sat. Instead of trying to find anything that points to dislike in our head coach..
We get it. You don't want him here.. Few do...
And like 34 said is not like Dunlap lit it up when he played.. Maybe he isnt ready to play yet. He played when Sword and IJ had their health issues...
I'm sure if we had enough faith in Dunlap to give us positive minutes he would play...

Dawg61
02-01-2015, 08:01 PM
Dunlap is a 2 guard.. Not a 1 . A 2.
If he is ready to play and can help us down the road he will play.. And it will be at the 2...
And when and if he does either IJ or Bloodman will be at the point..

No one has ever said that Sword is better or worse than Bloodman at the point .
Why can't you just enjoy the win Sat. Instead of trying to find anything that points to dislike in our head coach..
We get it. You don't want him here.. Few do...
And like 34 said is not like Dunlap lit it up when he played.. Maybe he isnt ready to play yet. He played when Sword and IJ had their health issues...
I'm sure if we had enough faith in Dunlap to give us positive minutes he would play...

Why are you constantly trying to quiet the dissenters? That's genespageish. The argument is Bloodman vs Sword at PG. Not moving Dunlap from the 2.

starkvegasdawg
02-01-2015, 08:02 PM
If that is the case then I'm fine with that. It's just that I've heard some rumblings from some close to the situation that there is more to this situation than him just not being good enough to play now.

mic
02-01-2015, 08:07 PM
Why are you constantly trying to quiet the dissenters? That's genespageish. The argument is Bloodman vs Sword at PG. Not moving Dunlap from the 2.

Then argue playing Sword at point when IJ needs a breather..
Why even bring Dunlap into the equation..

Coach34
02-01-2015, 08:17 PM
Bloodman is not very good- but he is still better than Dunlap right now. He has to rest Ready

Coach34
02-01-2015, 08:19 PM
34 you seem to have something against, or know something about Dunlap. I've seen you give people associated with MSU much more benefit of the doubt that have a much bigger track record of shittery. Rick Ray comes to mind.

I just dont see anywhere for him to play right now. We really needed to RS him- but couldnt with Sword and Ready hurting

Dawg61
02-01-2015, 08:35 PM
Then argue playing Sword at point when IJ needs a breather..
Why even bring Dunlap into the equation..

Read my post about giving Dunlap 4-5 attempts a game again. He was brought in to shoot. Let him shoot. We know Bloodman can't so give Dunlap his minutes and use Sword to rest IJ. Not that difficult.

mic
02-01-2015, 08:48 PM
Read my post about giving Dunlap 4-5 attempts a game again. He was brought in to shoot. Let him shoot. We know Bloodman can't so give Dunlap his minutes and use Sword to rest IJ. Not that difficult.

Stupid to go back and forth with you..
You said give Dunlap Bloodmans minutes..
IJ can't play 40 minutes..
Sword isn't going to play point.. And if he has too doesn't mean Dunlap should get minutes..

This all started with you saying give Bloodmans minutes to Dunlap.
C34 tried to explain that Dunlap can't play the 1.

Bloodman has to give us a few minutes every game.. Like it or not. No one says he needs to play more than 10..
Hell I want IJ in there as much as possible. He should play 30-35 every game unless foul trouble..

We just can't have both Ware and Sword out of the game when Bloodman is in ...

Dawg61
02-01-2015, 09:05 PM
Stupid to go back and forth with you..
You said give Dunlap Bloodmans minutes..
IJ can't play 40 minutes..
Sword isn't going to play point.. And if he has too doesn't mean Dunlap should get minutes..

This all started with you saying give Bloodmans minutes to Dunlap.
C34 tried to explain that Dunlap can't play the 1.

Bloodman has to give us a few minutes every game.. Like it or not. No one says he needs to play more than 10..
Hell I want IJ in there as much as possible. He should play 30-35 every game unless foul trouble..

We just can't have both Ware and Sword out of the game when Bloodman is in ...

Facepalm. Sword PG, Dunlap SG, Bloodman bench guard. It's not complicated.

Coach34
02-01-2015, 09:13 PM
Facepalm. Sword PG, Dunlap SG, Bloodman bench guard. It's not complicated.

Bloodman > Dunlap...you're right, its not complicated. You are just making it so. You want Dunlap to play defense as a 6'1 2-guard. He cant guard shit. Bloodman actually plays decent defense.

Dawg61
02-01-2015, 09:27 PM
Bloodman > Dunlap...you're right, its not complicated. You are just making it so. You want Dunlap to play defense as a 6'1 2-guard. He cant guard shit. Bloodman actually plays decent defense.

I would like to get a better look at Dunlap before we banish him to the back of the bench. If we are banishing him than we might as well trim the fat with him. Go get us a 6'4 Juco that can shoot.

fishwater99
02-01-2015, 11:53 PM
Read my post about giving Dunlap 4-5 attempts a game again. He was brought in to shoot. Let him shoot. We know Bloodman can't so give Dunlap his minutes and use Sword to rest IJ. Not that difficult.

Dunlap is an undersized 2 guard. He would have trouble creating enough space to get his shit off.
He is nit the answer.

headcoach98
02-02-2015, 10:43 AM
I thought Dunlap would be that outside threat this year as well but I'm not against him not playing again this year. He would definitely be a huge key for us next season, another off-season of strength and conditioning would do wonders.

DudyDawg
02-02-2015, 11:11 AM
Craig averages 2.3 assists and 3.2 turnovers over his career. He also is 0 threat from deep. That would be great to see at the top of the key against a 2-3 zone.Yeah, let's make him a primary handler. Bloodman is at the very least a solid defensive PG for ten minutes a night. Dunlap hasn't proven to be any better offensively. And he's proven to be worse defensively.

thf24
02-02-2015, 11:21 AM
Craig averages 2.3 assists and 3.2 turnovers over his career. He also is 0 threat from deep. That would be great to see at the top of the key against a 2-3 zone.Yeah, let's make him a primary handler.

He's shooting 32% from 3 on the year and made 5/7 against OM, 1/2 against LSU. I wouldn't call him a 3 point specialist just yet, but he's developed into a perfectly decent shooter. Whatever reasons exist for him not to play the point, lack of deep threat isn't one of them right now.

Coach34
02-02-2015, 11:21 AM
Sword has actually started to look decent from 3 the last 2 weeks. Hope it continues

DudyDawg
02-02-2015, 11:29 AM
He's shooting 32% from 3 on the year and made 5/7 against OM, 1/2 against LSU. I wouldn't call him a 3 point specialist just yet, but he's developed into a perfectly decent shooter. Whatever reasons exist for him not to play the point, lack of deep threat isn't one of them right now.

He's made like 40 in his three year career. Theres no denying he's showing good signs, but whether that is a flash in the pan or a legit improvement with his health has yet to be seen. As of what we have seen, he isn't a legit threat. And he's not a good enough passer to play 1. That's a bigger issue for putting someone at the one. He's a prototypical slashing 2. Dunlap is an undersized shooting 2 who lacks the ball skills to play the point.

mic
02-02-2015, 11:38 AM
He's made like 40 in his three year career. Theres no denying he's showing good signs, but whether that is a flash in the pan or a legit improvement with his health has yet to be seen. As of what we have seen, he isn't a legit threat. And he's not a good enough passer to play 1. That's a bigger issue for putting someone at the one. He's a prototypical slashing 2. Dunlap is an undersized shooting 2 who lacks the ball skills to play the point.

Dudy you are MAKING way too much sense...

Dawg61
02-02-2015, 02:20 PM
He's made like 40 in his three year career. Theres no denying he's showing good signs, but whether that is a flash in the pan or a legit improvement with his health has yet to be seen. As of what we have seen, he isn't a legit threat. And he's not a good enough passer to play 1. That's a bigger issue for putting someone at the one. He's a prototypical slashing 2. Dunlap is an undersized shooting 2 who lacks the ball skills to play the point.

You're proving my original post correct. Whose Dunlap's replacement?

DudyDawg
02-02-2015, 02:44 PM
You're proving my original post correct. Whose Dunlap's replacement?

If he's gone I would assume tookie (ep) or one of the other commits. Roc is the only senior I can think of off the top of my head so wouldn't we need one or two for new guys? I don't follow bball recruiting much

maroonmania
02-02-2015, 02:56 PM
If he's gone I would assume tookie (ep) or one of the other commits. Roc is the only senior I can think of off the top of my head so wouldn't we need one or two for new guys? I don't follow bball recruiting much

Bloodman is also a SR.

CadaverDawg
02-02-2015, 03:11 PM
Ray just said it is still possible for Dunlap to redshirt

Dawg61
02-02-2015, 03:20 PM
Ray just said it is still possible for Dunlap to redshirt

Alright I guess we have the answer.

thf24
02-02-2015, 03:22 PM
Ray just said it is still possible for Dunlap to redshirt

Medical? I'm not going to doubt the basketball coach, but that seems like a long shot if he's cleared to play now.

CadaverDawg
02-02-2015, 03:25 PM
Medical? I'm not going to doubt the basketball coach, but that seems like a long shot if he's cleared to play now.

He didn't say. Was just reading his presser on twitter, and he said it was still possible that Dunlap redshirts this season. Then he said "I do not want him to lose a year". Not sure whether that means he KNOWS he can still redshirt, or if he is hoping for a medical.

Coach34
02-02-2015, 04:01 PM
Medical? I'm not going to doubt the basketball coach, but that seems like a long shot if he's cleared to play now.

whether he is cleared to play or not- if an injury cost him time and he stays under the maximum games allowed to get it- he can get a medical RS

CadaverDawg
02-02-2015, 04:07 PM
Mike Bonner just said that according to MSU Compliance, If Dunlap plays 1 more minute this season, he cannot qualify for a redshirt

Dawg61
02-02-2015, 04:23 PM
Mike Bonner just said that according to MSU Compliance, If Dunlap plays 1 more minute this season, he cannot qualify for a redshirt

Wow no way RR planned that. If so that's the most impressive thing Ray has done to date.

mic
02-02-2015, 05:09 PM
[QUOTE=CadaverDawg;327270]Mike Bonner just said that according to MSU Compliance, If Dunlap plays 1 more minute this season, he cannot qualify for a redshirt[/QUOTE

That puts the Dunlap debate to rest...