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Dawgpile
01-19-2015, 10:53 PM
I've been analog-free for a year now, and really found the cure to a 30-year habit.

I'm pretty far along in the hobby, and would welcome any discussion.

Political Hack
01-20-2015, 12:20 PM
I've tried it just to gauge the difference a few times but I don't smoke so no need really...

I can say that the difference between the more expensive refill ones and the el cheapo at the gas stations is night and day. You get what you pay for.

Dallas_Dawg
01-20-2015, 06:47 PM
I've tried it but man it makes me feel all weird. The next day I had a bad headache, and felt like I was withdrawing from speed or something

Dawgpile
01-20-2015, 08:09 PM
I can say that the difference between the more expensive refill ones and the el cheapo at the gas stations is night and day. You get what you pay for.

Absolutely the truth. I see the ecig supplies they sell at Mapco and cringe at the thought of using that stuff. No way I would have enjoyed it enough to quit smoking if I had bought there. I was lucky and had a friend who hooked me up with a great tank and battery from the start.

The good news is a solid rig for entry level is about $40 from a reputable store, much less than that online. Of course I've spent much more than that over time, with all the stupid shit I've bought, but it's still thousands less than I would have spent on cigarettes.

Dawgpile
01-20-2015, 08:21 PM
I've tried it but man it makes me feel all weird. The next day I had a bad headache, and felt like I was withdrawing from speed or something

Sorry you had a bad experience... The only side effects I've ever had is nausea from too much nicotine, but it only lasts a minute or so.

I know they have marijuana e-cig liquid. You might have been so high you didn't know it. :cool:

Barking 13
01-20-2015, 08:35 PM
Sorry you had a bad experience... The only side effects I've ever had is nausea from too much nicotine, but it only lasts a minute or so.

I know they have marijuana e-cig liquid. You might have been so high you didn't know it. :cool:

It makes my throat sore.. I still intend to do it eventually.. really, it's just a trade of tobacco for some other substance and water vapor...
I've heard the Colorado mix is stout.... :cool:

Political Hack
01-20-2015, 08:39 PM
Absolutely the truth. I see the ecig supplies they sell at Mapco and cringe at the thought of using that stuff. No way I would have enjoyed it enough to quit smoking if I had bought there. I was lucky and had a friend who hooked me up with a great tank and battery from the start.

The good news is a solid rig for entry level is about $40 from a reputable store, much less than that online. Of course I've spent much more than that over time, with all the stupid shit I've bought, but it's still thousands less than I would have spent on cigarettes.

and tens of thousands less in medical bills...

Dawgpile
01-20-2015, 11:17 PM
It makes my throat sore.. I still intend to do it eventually.. really, it's just a trade of tobacco for some other substance and water vapor...
I've heard the Colorado mix is stout.... :cool:

Make sure any juice you buy is made in the States. Buy the Chinese hardware, not the juice. You might check the PG/VG blend too. More VG is thicker and smoother. And yeah, you're still a weak, mental slave to nicotine. But, it's arguably a better alternative.

What I tried was home-grown...knocked me on my ass. The chef put some peppermint in it, and that's all you got taste/smell.

Riotous Thinking
01-20-2015, 11:51 PM
Everyone said quit smoking, start vaping and save money. That was the biggest lie on the face of the planet. IPV Mini, Aspire Nautilus, Sigelei 150W box mod, 2 different rda's, 32 gauge wire, 28 gauge wire, 24 gauge wire, organic cotton, Ko Gen Do Japanese cotton, and about 5 gallons of different e-juices in the past few months is not cheap!! We have 4 shops within a few minutes drive from my house and I have kept them in business.

I can't complain to much though. I dont smell like and ashtray any more and I feel a hell of a lot better by not inhaling those Marlboro Lights all day. It has definitely become more of a hobby than a bad habit now. One thing I did learn though, I have got to go get my eyes checked, it has been about 5 years since my last exam, cause it is a bitch trying wrap that small ass wire.

Barking 13
01-20-2015, 11:56 PM
Make sure any juice you buy is made in the States. Buy the Chinese hardware, not the juice. You might check the PG/VG blend too. More VG is thicker and smoother. And yeah, you're still a weak, mental slave to nicotine. But, it's arguably a better alternative.

What I tried was home-grown...knocked me on my ass. The chef put some peppermint in it, and that's all you got taste/smell.

BHO

Dawgpile
01-21-2015, 01:00 AM
I bought 'readers' just so I could build on my first deck, so I feel your pain. The tiny screws are a bitch too, but the Kayfun is worth the hassle for me. It's stupid the money I've spent on my gear, but I've been buying online recently to try to keep the outflow in check. Nashville has a ton of vapor shops, and a bunch of local juice chemists, some of which are pretty talented. I definitely spend the most buying e-liquid.

I'm still happy with my mechanical mods, but you be sure to let me know when you're tired of the Sigelei.

Riotous Thinking
01-21-2015, 01:16 AM
I am running a Lemo RTA on the Sigelei. I seriously doubt I will ever use its full potential, normally, I am quite happy around 30-40 watts, but when I bought it, it was only a few bucks more than the 50 watt. And I like the dual 18650 batteries. I can actually make it through a full day on one charge.

Dawgpile
01-22-2015, 09:54 PM
Finally got around to editing this post...

Big Tobacco with another hit piece. (http://www.nbcnews.com/health/cancer/you-vape-high-levels-formaldehyde-hidden-e-cigs-n290826)

Notice there's no mention how high the voltage that releases the high levels of formaldehyde. There's little doubt it's way above what one would consider a "vapable" burn.

drunkernhelldawg
01-23-2015, 02:46 PM
I absolutely love it. However, most people fall off the vape train because they don't keep their systems clean. You've got to change your wick every 24 hours or so. When you get ten or so, soak them in rubbing alchohol for 24 hours. Drain off the alcohol and rinse thoroughly with hot water. Let them soak an hour or so, rinse again and spread them on a towel or napkin to dry. Don't try to use them until they are totally dry. As far as juice goes, get your favorite but keep another handy for occasional variety. Don't use menthol flavor straight; mix it with tobacco or another flavor. Keep a charged battery handy. I have four batteries that I circulate. Also, keep wipe the battery connectors clean with a q tip or wadded napkin whenever you change batteries or put it on the charger. I use the starter EVOD system. There is no reason to upgrade, so I just bought a second kit. I could save money by using mail order more, but my cost is down under ten dollars a week anyway. If you buy a new wick every time rather than cleaning, your cost will be much higher. Find a flavor you like. Be patient and enjoy. Also, don't try to inhale before you are used to the vapor. It has a slightly different feel. Overall, just keep your system clean and fully charged and don't get into buying a bunch of new equipment. Just enjoy. KISS.

drunkernhelldawg
01-23-2015, 02:50 PM
On a related note, it's tragic that New Orleans' new smoking ordinance also prohibits vaping. Hopefully, they'll delete that bit of idiocy.

Dawgpile
01-24-2015, 09:51 PM
The important thing for any vaper is you're satisfied with your system, and are off the analogs.

Kangers are great tanks and are what I started with, and still use them on occasion. Your cleaning procedure of your coils is pretty solid, although I might suggest you swap the rubbing alcohol for a potable alcohol like vodka. I just used boiling water from the microwave and a dry-burn after drying them. That evolved into popping the chimney off the coils and re-wicking them with cotton, which you'll love the taste if you try it. There's plenty of tutorials on youtube and it's easy to do.

If you're still using variable voltage batts, then you might look at a variable wattage device like the MVP2.0 as your next upgrade if you want to stick with the Kanger tanks.

Happy to hear another success story!

drunkernhelldawg
01-26-2015, 06:05 PM
Curious as to why vodka is better than rubbing alcohol. Would everclear be better?

Dawgpile
01-26-2015, 09:13 PM
Isopropyl (rubbing) alcohol is poisonous. The fact you rinse your coils in water probably negates any potential issues, but even then it wouldn't be worth the risk in my mind. We're trying to get away from dangerous chemicals, right? I've tried soaking in vodka before, but I didn't see any benefit over the boiling water/dry-burn technique I described.

I mentioned it before, but rewicking with cotton is the ticket to Kanger single-coil heads. Cleaning and future rewicking is an absolute breeze, not to mention the improvement in flavor and vapor production. I got to a point when I was still using Kangers that I would pull the silica wick out of the brand-new heads & use the cotton.

Dawgpile
01-26-2015, 09:32 PM
I am quite happy around 30-40 watts

I picked up a Seven-22 I found for cheap on Craigslist just yesterday, and I can't fathom how you're vaping at 30+ watts. I'm running a .6 ohm build, and get a burnt taste at anything above 19 watts. Your Lemo is a single coil like my Kayfun, so is it a matter of airflow, or a higher ohm coil?

fishwater99
01-28-2015, 10:18 AM
It makes my throat sore.. I still intend to do it eventually.. really, it's just a trade of tobacco for some other substance and water vapor...
I've heard the Colorado mix is stout.... :cool:

https://www.ploom.com/pax

drunkernhelldawg
02-05-2015, 10:24 AM
The other thing I'd mention is you should wash the tanks out occasionally. Adding liquid on the fly is the way we usually go, but every now and then you need to get that tank totally clean and put in 100 percent fresh liquid. I'm still going to look into rewicking with cotton. Just need a moment to figure it out.

DeltaDawg
02-08-2015, 08:15 PM
Been analog free now for 6 months. I use the iTaste MVP2 with a nautilus mini tank. I like this one because my battery lasts about 4 days without charging and I can charge my phone from it. The best thing about it is no longer having to leave my seats to smoke in between quarters and missing all of halftime to go smoke.

Dawgpile
02-10-2015, 09:32 PM
Been analog free now for 6 months. I use the iTaste MVP2 with a nautilus mini tank. I like this one because my battery lasts about 4 days without charging and I can charge my phone from it. The best thing about it is no longer having to leave my seats to smoke in between quarters and missing all of halftime to go smoke.

Allright!! Happy to hear another success story, and I hope you stick with it!

I used a MVP for a long time, and it's a great battery; Variable wattage is a big upgrade over variable volt batteries. The only negative about the MVP is that the internal batteries aren't replaceable, and when it's dead it's a paperweight...That's what happened to mine. The USB output saved my sanity on an overseas flight when my IPad battery died. I never tried the Nautilus because I had committed to the Kangers, but I have friends who swear by them.

Again, the bottom line is you're happy with your system and are staying off the analogs.

Barking 13
02-12-2015, 01:03 AM
any of you stovepipes want to give an opinion on a good starter rig?

Dawgpile
02-13-2015, 10:10 PM
any of you stovepipes want to give an opinion on a good starter rig?

This is a good starting point. (https://vaporhq.com/kanger-evod-starter-kit) I'm partial to Kanger products, and the batteries are pretty basic in this kit, but the quality of the product is good in my experience.

If you've never tried vaping, I might suggest you try a Blu first, to see if you like the delivery system.

Barking 13
02-17-2015, 01:16 AM
I've tried a couple of the e-cigs, and my son has a "basic" rig he got Nu-Way to set him up with. I went and sat in the shop for about an hour or so a couple months back trying different juices they make in house. It kinda messes with my throat a little. I travel a good bit with my job, and it's no fun having to walk to the elevator and then go outside in all kinds of weather just to smoke.. I ought to quit (and have several times). I just want something mainly to cut down on my trips outside.

Barking 13
02-17-2015, 01:27 AM
After looking at your link, I think my son's is the Evod2.. but I'll have to confirm that... Nu-Way as that kind of rig with juice for around 60-70 bucks, but I think they have upgraded batteries and coils or something.. I don't think they are stock..

drunkernhelldawg
02-20-2015, 03:43 PM
Forget about blu. All of the disposables suck and cost too much. Get an Evod starter kit. You'll never have to upgrade unless you want to although the batteries do eventually have to be replaced and the tanks eventually wear out. I'm still using mine that I bought in November 2013. I have integrated a second starter kit into my rotation, but all of the original stuff is still being used too.

Barking 13
03-09-2015, 08:02 PM
Just got my rig... My son had an EMOW, but got a new 30w battery and gave me the old one.. I went today and got a Nautilus Mini tank and some juice and I'm on my way... I got some Festus juice and a bottle of some house menthol, mixed about 60 / 40... running on mid hole and at a little over 4. coil on the NM is 1.8.. it's a start...