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DudyDawg
01-13-2015, 09:05 PM
Ware, daniels, chicken, Ready, Roq starting.

Their aren't looks as packed as ours. Btw, we are wearing black, presumably so no one can tell its us losing by 40

msstate7
01-13-2015, 09:07 PM
Daniels' 3 good sign for him

DudyDawg
01-13-2015, 09:08 PM
Already given up two threes w no one w in earshot of the shooter

msstate7
01-13-2015, 09:11 PM
If Daniels would be aggressive like this all the time, we'd be a much better team. Daniels can be a nice player

DudyDawg
01-13-2015, 09:11 PM
Yet to see the play where we cross wings then cross screen in the post create a basket. In the last like five games

msstate7
01-13-2015, 09:21 PM
We actually look decent tonight

engie
01-13-2015, 09:21 PM
Daniels with another 3. Looks like who he was supposed to be over the first 8 minutes tonight...

msstate7
01-13-2015, 09:23 PM
Ndoye and black are really raw, but I think they could be nice players before they leave

HailState39110
01-13-2015, 09:28 PM
I liked the starting 5 we had tonight .

DudyDawg
01-13-2015, 09:29 PM
Defense playing a ton better since the first few minutes. Luckily they can't hit a free throw tho. Already in bonus

msstate7
01-13-2015, 09:29 PM
This looks like it could be one of those long droughts. Need a basket

msstate7
01-13-2015, 09:33 PM
I really hope tookie brown can continue to be a scorer in college. We have no one that we can go to for a basket

bluelightstar
01-13-2015, 09:33 PM
We can't shoot to save our lives

cbrunt29
01-13-2015, 09:34 PM
Get. Daniels. The ball.

HailState39110
01-13-2015, 09:34 PM
Daniels having a nice outing and the reason we are hanging around

msstate7
01-13-2015, 09:36 PM
What's the deal with Fred? He finished last year strong, started this year strong, and all-the-sudden, nothing.

DudyDawg
01-13-2015, 09:39 PM
I wish we would press all game. We don't have the talent to score w people and have a two deep of basically the same size and talented players, why not try something gimmicky to produce

msstate7
01-13-2015, 09:39 PM
Ready has to take that open 3.

engie
01-13-2015, 09:47 PM
What's the deal with Fred? He finished last year strong, started this year strong, and all-the-sudden, nothing.

He's a mental case. You can tell how he's going to play for a whole game on the basis of how he does on his first 2 shots. I thought he'd grow out of that -- but he hasn't.

engie
01-13-2015, 09:50 PM
I wish we would press all game. We don't have the talent to score w people and have a two deep of basically the same size and talented players, why not try something gimmicky to produce

Exactly. It's ridiculous to keep trying what isn't working. Ray led us to believe it was going to be a Shaka Smart/Mike Anderson 40 minutes of hell defensive system -- and he's delivered an average half court defense for the most part outside of really high effort stretches...

engie
01-13-2015, 09:50 PM
Thomas wide open 3 = airball

msstate7
01-13-2015, 09:53 PM
I really like black. He's obviously got a long way to go, but he could be good by next season

msstate7
01-13-2015, 09:54 PM
Hanging around with ware on the bench. We might have a shot to win in the 2nd half

Outside Dawg
01-13-2015, 09:56 PM
Well, by the score at least, we look like an actual basketball team at the half. That in itself is an improvement.

DudyDawg
01-13-2015, 09:56 PM
Black, daniels, houston all very impressive athletes. Daniels keeping us in this. Fred's shot before the half was pretty terrible execution but it went in

engie
01-13-2015, 09:57 PM
Black and Ndoye have both shown glimpses for sure...

The worst part of this is that we've gotten glimpses from a bunch of guys. And then poof, nothing. Ready isn't back from his injury to what he was and neither is Sword. Not even close.

msstate7
01-13-2015, 10:00 PM
Black and Ndoye have both shown glimpses for sure...

The worst part of this is that we've gotten glimpses from a bunch of guys. And then poof, nothing. Ready isn't back from his injury to what he was and neither is Sword. Not even close.

Sword being a shell of himself is absolutely killing us. We desperately need his driving ability

Coach34
01-13-2015, 10:01 PM
Losing to us tonight would be the most Stands thing ever

Maroonthirteen
01-13-2015, 10:04 PM
A few were talking up the scorned Stans factor for this game. Stans doesn't play. The guys that play. Are coming off a UK hangover and couldnt care less where stans last coached. Where as our players seem to be playing for something.... Maybe their coach? Just a guess. But for certain, Daniels, Houston and Black are very good young players. If sword could get to 100%, we might win a sec game or two....

bobcat91
01-13-2015, 10:10 PM
Exactly. It's ridiculous to keep trying what isn't working. Ray led us to believe it was going to be a Shaka Smart/Mike Anderson 40 minutes of hell defensive system --and he's delivered an average half court defense for the most part outside of really high effort stretches...

Ray has delivered. Watching our games are 40 minutes of hell.

msstate7
01-13-2015, 10:12 PM
Daniels, please stay aggressive the rest of the year

bluelightstar
01-13-2015, 10:14 PM
Losing to us tonight would be the most Stands thing ever

I was just thinking that. Even though he's not head coach, this A&M team is pulling a classic "Stans WTF game" against an inferior team. Think Rider '09.

msstate7
01-13-2015, 10:16 PM
Get sword out of the game

Bucky Dog
01-13-2015, 10:17 PM
Is it on tv?

msstate7
01-13-2015, 10:18 PM
Is it on tv?

Secn

DudyDawg
01-13-2015, 10:18 PM
How on earth does a college basketball player travel without anyone near him. Honestly

msstate7
01-13-2015, 10:20 PM
This whole run started with a sword TO followed by a sword foul. Sword is a major liability

thunderclap
01-13-2015, 10:20 PM
Ray has delivered. Watching our games are 40 minutes of hell.

Nice.

msstate7
01-13-2015, 10:26 PM
Sword, Fred, and ware's disappearing acts would make David copperfield jealous

DudyDawg
01-13-2015, 10:27 PM
Wish we would move our damn feet and stop fouling

HoopsDawg
01-13-2015, 10:27 PM
Huge tactical error by Ray. He put bloodman and ready in the backcourt together and they went on a 10-0 run. That's just an awful backcourt combo defensively.

Maroonthirteen
01-13-2015, 10:30 PM
Yeah, Caruso was easily getting to the basket.

BeardoMSU
01-13-2015, 10:31 PM
Ray has delivered. Watching our games are 40 minutes of hell.

http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/kim_jung_un_clapping.gif

msstate7
01-13-2015, 10:32 PM
Does ware just decide to take whole games off or what?

engie
01-13-2015, 10:33 PM
Dunno who flipped Daniels' switch -- but this was who he was supposed to be and who I was told he was all offseason. Hence why I pumped him as maybe our best player before he came out of the gate timid as a kitten in most games...

Bucky Dog
01-13-2015, 10:36 PM
Looking at live stats it shows us shooting 35% from the field which includes 6-12 from 3 point range! And we are 6-12 from the line.

engie
01-13-2015, 10:36 PM
Does ware just decide to take whole games off or what?

It has seemed that way his whole career to me. He had the excuse of playing the whole game previously. Again, expected him to grow out of it and us to not see that anymore once he had guys behind him. And it hasn't changed.

msstate7
01-13-2015, 10:38 PM
Damn ready

BeardoMSU
01-13-2015, 10:41 PM
Damn ready

He has absolutely no business playing the PG position in the SEC. He's not a play-maker, he can't shoot, and his passing is sub-par. Why is he playing the 1 for us again?

msstate7
01-13-2015, 10:42 PM
Wtf!

drunkernhelldawg
01-13-2015, 10:50 PM
I sure hope our guys can get the reward of a W for their effort here. We're a long way from a real turning point, and I don't care like I used to as a fan whether we win or lose, but if the guys can compete and really improve, I could get closer to happy. I don't see any point in these how many wins to keep Ray stuff. He's not at that level, we're not. We just need to put a team on the floor that plays with passion and intelligence, a team that is in the game, like it is now.

DudyDawg
01-13-2015, 10:51 PM
Worst block call I've ever seen

BeardoMSU
01-13-2015, 10:51 PM
Great block-out Roc*****

msstate7
01-13-2015, 10:51 PM
Ball game

preachermatt83
01-13-2015, 10:54 PM
http://www.quickmeme.com/img/a6/a62a93f93010826d4e3a662fe93e68677cc9c4eefa491f0bd4 910b6801792f08.jpg

Bucky Dog
01-13-2015, 10:54 PM
We might have a chance against Missouri. They scored 37 at Kentucky and got beat by 50.

msstate7
01-13-2015, 10:55 PM
Ware was complete garbage tonight

DudyDawg
01-13-2015, 10:55 PM
Ware fouled out. Sucked tonight. Put roc in

HoopsDawg
01-13-2015, 10:56 PM
Ball game

We've played as well as we can play, they have played poorly and we are down 8.

msstate7
01-13-2015, 10:57 PM
We've played as well as we can play, they have played poorly and we are down 8.

We can play better....

Ware -- 3 pts 2 reb's 5 fouls

drunkernhelldawg
01-13-2015, 10:58 PM
Ware was complete garbage tonight

I know. Put Ware and Sword on their B game and we're up here tonight. That's cause for mild optimism.

msstate7
01-13-2015, 11:01 PM
Tell me ray isn't snakebit

Maroonthirteen
01-13-2015, 11:06 PM
Unbelievable. Oh well..... I was entertained watching Stans give some last minute instructions to players as they ignored him, out if the last TO. Same ole Stans.

Coach34
01-13-2015, 11:08 PM
Tell me ray isn't snakebit

He really is

Every time there was a loose ball- it ended up bad for us. It's unreal.

Coach34
01-13-2015, 11:08 PM
I was entertained watching Stans give some last minute instructions to players as they ignored him, out if the last TO. Same ole Stans.

hahaha-saw that too

msstate7
01-13-2015, 11:11 PM
I know ray doesn't have the luxury of playing for the future, but I wish he could do a couple things:

1. Sit sword till he's healthy.

2. Give black, ndoye, and Houston as many mins as possible.

tcdog70
01-13-2015, 11:16 PM
Huge tactical error by Ray. He put bloodman and ready in the backcourt together and they went on a 10-0 run. That's just an awful backcourt combo defensively.

I've been saying for three years our guards can't stop my Grandmother. They are too short and any team can post them and shoot over them.

HancockCountyDog
01-13-2015, 11:24 PM
Just checked score, looks like we put up a solid fight.

Good to see.

Maroonthirteen
01-13-2015, 11:24 PM
ATM didn't cover. Can we count that as a win?

HoopsDawg
01-13-2015, 11:24 PM
I know ray doesn't have the luxury of playing for the future, but I wish he could do a couple things:

1. Sit sword till he's healthy.

2. Give black, ndoye, and Houston as many mins as possible.

What do u see in Ndoye that I'm missing?

tcdog70
01-13-2015, 11:25 PM
Tell me ray isn't snakebit


He is just a bad Coach. A third asst Coach on an average Clemson team. He will take his snakebite ass to the bank with a Million a year, thanks the dumbest move by an AD in the History of Basketball.

msstate7
01-13-2015, 11:26 PM
What do u see in Ndoye that I'm missing?

Effort.

I think he has potential. He goes to the basket like he's 5'10", but I think that can be fixed.

HoopsDawg
01-13-2015, 11:28 PM
Effort

Tyson Cunningham played hard too.

tcdog70
01-13-2015, 11:29 PM
Dunno who flipped Daniels' switch -- but this was who he was supposed to be and who I was told he was all offseason. Hence why I pumped him as maybe our best player before he came out of the gate timid as a kitten in most games...

That's right you didn't really know shit for a fact. You were just going by hear say. Who would have expected anything more

msstate7
01-13-2015, 11:34 PM
Tyson Cunningham played hard too.

Yeah, but ndoye actually has potential.

I said if ray had the luxury of knowing he'd be back that he should play those freshmen. Ware and Fred have proven over and over again that you can't count on them. Up, down, up, down...

Obviously Ray can't play for the future

tcdog70
01-13-2015, 11:40 PM
It has seemed that way his whole career to me. He had the excuse of playing the whole game previously. Again, expected him to grow out of it and us to not see that anymore once he had guys behind him. And it hasn't changed.

Has it occurred to you that some of our players don't like their coach and don't want to play for Him. Maybe they would play for a real Coach. I have talked to Player's Dad and some of the players and Ray don't see eye to eye.

tcdog70
01-13-2015, 11:42 PM
Unbelievable. Oh well..... I was entertained watching Stans give some last minute instructions to players as they ignored him, out if the last TO. Same ole Stans.


Yep- putting up a W

msstate7
01-13-2015, 11:45 PM
Has it occurred to you that some of our players don't like their coach and don't want to play for Him. Maybe they would play for a real Coach. I have talked to Player's Dad and some of the players and Ray don't see eye to eye.

If this is the case, we need some new players to go with our new coach

engie
01-13-2015, 11:56 PM
That's right you didn't really know shit for a fact. You were just going by hear say. Who would have expected anything more
What was I supposed to "know for a fact" about a guy that hadn't played a game yet? Some guys change when the lights come on both good and bad. When Daniels turns on his aggression, he's a pretty damn good player.

Quit being an insecure jackass.

engie
01-13-2015, 11:58 PM
Has it occurred to you that some of our players don't like their coach and don't want to play for Him. Maybe they would play for a real Coach. I have talked to Player's Dad and some of the players and Ray don't see eye to eye.

Then those particular dipshit, immature players need to go too.

tcdog70
01-14-2015, 12:13 AM
What was I supposed to "know for a fact" about a guy that hadn't played a game yet? Some guys change when the lights come on both good and bad. When Daniels turns on his aggression, he's a pretty damn good player.

Quit being an insecure jackass.


As opposed to just a jackass like you. You were calling people morons and idiots when they questioned Daniels as being all that. Look you have been exposed as to what you don't know about basketball. But I will say you are damn good at copying and pasting.

tcdog70
01-14-2015, 12:17 AM
Then those particular dipshit, immature players need to go too.

But when you were railing on Stans for losing touch with his players it was all His fault, not the insecure players. The difference was when Stans did it he he still won twenty and Ray can't win a conference game.

M.Fillmore
01-14-2015, 12:29 AM
He is just a bad Coach. A third asst Coach on an average Clemson team. He will take his snakebite ass to the bank with a Million a year, thanks the dumbest move by an AD in the History of Basketball.

I questioned Ray's hiring when announced for the same reason, but let's not go overboard. Opie's worst day is better than LT's best day. Opie is no Ninja, but he sure ain't LT either.

thf24
01-14-2015, 08:26 AM
Unbelievable. Oh well..... I was entertained watching Stans give some last minute instructions to players as they ignored him, out if the last TO. Same ole Stans.

I never understood how he's such a great recruiter, but doesn't command much respect among many of his actual players. What changes between the time they like him enough to join his team and actually start playing? It can't be that he goes hardass disciplinarian on them, that's obvious judging by 2009-2012.

MadDawg
01-14-2015, 09:40 AM
Losing to us tonight would be the most Stands thing ever

Doh

BeardoMSU
01-14-2015, 09:50 AM
Tell me ray isn't snakebit

http://i.imgur.com/pLlKmdU.gif