State-Tenn game thread

[Coach34]

Big one tonight for the Dawgs

Hopefully some confidence from the Fla State game was built and carries over

[HereComesTheSpiral]

I don't think I can get drunk enough to make our team watchable at this point, but unlike our coach against the powerhouse Mcneese State, I will try.

[HoopsDawg]

Big one tonight for the Dawgs

Hopefully some confidence from the Fla State game was built and carries over

Not a great matchup. UT plays zone and we can't shoot.

[RTO Dawg]

No hope, reminds me of the Croom era..

[engie]

Did I hear right?

Tennessee has JUST NINE GUYS ON SCHOLARSHIP?!? I was told that anyone call fill a roster in a couple months and give Tyndall as a constant reference...

[msstate7]

Turnovers, turnovers, turnovers

[99jc]

Did I hear right?

Tennessee has JUST NINE GUYS ON SCHOLARSHIP?!? I was told that anyone call fill a roster in a couple months and give Tyndall as a constant reference...

in the bank

[engie]

Wow, talk about not coming out ready to play. On either end.

[msstate7]

12-0... Really Ray?

[bluelightstar]

I cannot wait until we fire this guy.

[starkvegasdawg]

FSU should be embarrassed. Has the fan left yet?

[msstate7]

Wow, talk about not coming out ready to play. On either end.

6 TO's in less than 5 mins

[Irondawg]

And he's lost his job again. We get blown out at home and commit 20 turnovers and he's toast barring a miracle run.

Better turn it around quick

[HereComesTheSpiral]

Did I hear right?

Tennessee has JUST NINE GUYS ON SCHOLARSHIP?!? I was told that anyone call fill a roster in a couple months and give Tyndall as a constant reference...
So this is what it felt like to lose to us the last 2 years???

[Coach34]

We're out of the game before TV even switches to it

[engie]

6 TO's in less than 5 mins

2 open layups, an open 3, 2 open jumpshots... Letting Tennessee get 3 offensive rebounds on one possession...

My blood pressure is rising. Turnovers are bad -- but the lack of effort plays enfuriate me.

[Dawg61]

Did I hear right?

Tennessee has JUST NINE GUYS ON SCHOLARSHIP?!? I was told that anyone call fill a roster in a couple months and give Tyndall as a constant reference...

Tyndall already has a win over #15 Butler that Ray will never come close to.

[Big4Dawg]

you can just see SOOO much improvement***

People have to understand:
one good game=sample
a bunch of shitty ones=trend

[starkvegasdawg]

There went the shut out.

[msstate7]

Tyndall already has a win over #15 Butler that Ray will never come close to.

How long before he gets his show cause?

[Coach34]

He should be fired for starting Endo over Ware in the 1st place

[Coach34]

Here we come

[thunderclap]

First game I've watched and it is amazing to me how unathletic we look.

[Dawg61]

He should be fired for starting Endo over Ware in the 1st place

Ndoye and Black starting must be a message being sent to Ware and Roq.

[engie]

1Bs(tonight's anyway) look like they actually came to play.

Ware not starting seems to have lit a fire under his ass

[msstate7]

3 straight missed FT's.

[Coach34]

We are drawing some damn fouls- got to start making FT's

[99jc]

First game I've watched

you spared yourself a lot of anger and high blood pressure

[Maroonthirteen]

SEC TV meetings..... "Hey Barry, we are assigning you...... The MSU UT game this week."

Booker: "again?!?! What the hell did I do?.."

[bluelightstar]

I hate seeing the Hump so empty

[PSYCHO(thesis)DEFENSE]

will never see that starting lineup again

[Dawg61]

How long before he gets his show cause?

Not relevant but if he was going to get in trouble for something at USM he would already be in trouble. He's not so it's a non-story.

[thunderclap]

you spared yourself a lot of anger and high blood pressure

I have never once believed Ray could get anything done so it was easier to give up.

[engie]

Tyndall already has a win over #15 Butler that Ray will never come close to.

Ray beat RPI #45 OM in year 1.

Current Butler RPI prediction - #42.

[HereComesTheSpiral]

Well, both teams look like a pile of steaming shit.

[RougeDawg]

First game I've watched and it is amazing to me how unathletic we look.

Tonight is how we normally look with RR at the helm. The FSU game was an extreme outlier, yet many want to give ray an extension because of it.

[bluelightstar]

What on earth is our offense?

[Coach34]

I hate our zone offense- it looked better in Year 1

[engie]

Not relevant but if he was going to get in trouble for something at USM he would already be in trouble. He's not so it's a non-story.

It's a story until he's cleared -- which he hasn't been. He's under investigation.

[PSYCHO(thesis)DEFENSE]

5 subs didn't give up a point

[Dawg61]

Ray beat RPI #45 OM in year 1.

Current Butler RPI prediction - #42.

#15

[msstate7]

If bloodman is gonna keep missing FT's, put ready in

[99jc]

this is sad...total apathy has set in and will continue under Croom Part II

[engie]

Conveniently misleading.

[bluelightstar]

We have 7 points with 7:40 to go. This is incredible

[HoopsDawg]

This is one of the worst games I have ever watched. I've seen better basketball at the YMCA.

[Coach34]

Zone offense is dogshit

[msstate7]

Tenn is a fouling machine.

[Bucky Dog]

What a pathetic game. The over/under at this point has to be 70!

[Dawg61]

This is one of the worst games I have ever watched. I've seen better basketball at the YMCA.

This is how we win now. We muddy the waters so much and try to make the game as ugly as possible.

[engie]

Tenn is a fouling machine.

Why not? We miss the freethrows...

12:10 was the last score either way...

[whosyourdawgy]

We can't even make freaking layups. Gavin Ware should've pulled the damn backboard down just then. Instead he goes up soft and bricks a freaking one footer

[Delmar]

There are 10s of people in attendance for a SEC game. Wow.

[whosyourdawgy]

UT is playing down to their competition. 3-9 from the foul line

[engie]

13:00 was last field goal either way.

Tennessee hasn't scored period since 15:11.

[Coach34]

I'm proud of our D- we look good

[Quaoarsking]

Surely someone will have the decency to give Ray and the team credit for the outstanding defense they've played over the last 10 minutes?

[engie]

We lit a fire under our asses on defense now though!!! I dunno what happened out of the gate, but ever since the first sub, it's been some of the best D I've seen us play.

[msstate7]

Rick ray for co DC. Our defense has been good

[thunderclap]

This is one of the worst games I have ever watched. I've seen better basketball at the YMCA.

It's hard to watch. I don't know that I can much longer.

[Coach34]

13:00 was last field goal either way.

Tennessee hasn't scored period since 15:11.

Tyndall is a genius Engie...with his 9 players

[engie]

We continue to play D like that -- we can win some games...

[Quaoarsking]

Haha tied 12-12

[msstate7]

Tenn's best player with 3 fouls. We have to take advantage

[engie]

First points for Tennessee in 9 minutes and 26 seconds. Will easily be over a 10 min drought from the floor...

[msstate7]

Sword is looking better and better

[thf24]

Keep doing exactly what we're doing and we could easily win this game... which is a travesty unto itself.

[engie]

This team is so erratic... It's like they are all freshmen...

It's terrible D, to elite D. Flipped switch...

[Dawg61]

Embrace the ugly.

[msstate7]

Bloodman is killing us on the line

[bluelightstar]

The free throws, my goodness.

Also, what does our basketball recruiting look like? We need some shooters.

[whosyourdawgy]

That free throw by Bloodman about broke the rim

[Coach34]

Ray's recruiting is picking up- that's at least a positive

[Coach34]

Ray is a freaking math major- he's not a dumbass- he has got to do something to get thru to these guys on some things offensively. The defense looks good tonight

[PSYCHO(thesis)DEFENSE]

The terrible d to start the game should be attributed to turnovers. I doubt they've scored 5 against a set D.

[thf24]

Are my stats wrong or have we seriously not even attempted a 3? I don't care if your team shoots 10%, how in the world do you fail to even attempt a 3 against a zone defense in almost a complete half of basketball?

[Coach34]

Are my stats wrong or have we seriously not even attempted a 3? I don't care if your team shoots 10%, how in the world do you fail to even attempt a 3 against a zone defense in almost a complete half of basketball?

Fred shot 1

[Dawg61]

Ray is a freaking math major- he's not a dumbass- he has got to do something to get thru to these guys on some things offensively. The defense looks good tonight

Draw fouls is their strategy. So far it's working.

[Coach34]

Tennessee has 14 team fouls already

[thf24]

I'm not normally one to poke fun at ourselves, but some buds and I were wondering whether our score at the half or the temperature would be higher. It's going to be close.

[Coach34]

and we're still losing at half

[msstate7]

Terrible last min. Open 3 and foul to end half

[Coach34]

We only shot 16 times in the 1st half...wow

[msstate7]

We only shot 16 times in the 1st half...wow

Well to be fair, we got hacked everytime we crossed midcourt

[Dawg61]

Why is Ware on the bench? Wtf

[msstate7]

No foul?!!!!

[msstate7]

We've been terrible all night with ready on the floor

[trob115]

We suck in case anyone wasn't aware.

[msstate7]

Get ready off the court.

[Smitty]

"Remember When" by Alan Jackson playing in the background**

http://www.betphoenix.ag/sites/default/files/styles/images_articles_580x360/public/field/image/florida-mississippi-state-basketball.jpg?itok=HGGJo8S7

[msstate7]

12-0 start with ready on floor, then we come back with bloodman

2nd half same deal with ready.

We have to find a PG before next season

[PSYCHO(thesis)DEFENSE]

Cant score can we at least drive the lane & try to foul everybody out?

[engie]

Their whole team is in foul trouble. We've got to attack here... Quit wasting time throwing it around up top.

[engie]

That a baby!

3 drawn fouls in under a minute...

[msstate7]

FT's will be why we lose

[engie]

And back in the bonus promptly to brick 2 freethrows

[engie]

Houston ain't hit the inside of the rim on the FT line yet...

[msstate7]

This is really starting to piss me off

[Smitty]

We have 2 assists lol

13-26 from the stripe

[msstate7]

Ball game

[Dawg61]

Wow that hurt

[Smitty]

http://a.memegen.com/1bl2dp.gif

[bluelightstar]

This would seem to be one of our easier SEC games and we are losing by double digits at home. Surely, fewer than 5 SEC wins doesn't bring Ray back.

[msstate7]

13-26 ft's

[Coach34]

13-27 from the line- at home. Wow

[Smitty]

We will not win another game.. The gameplan is out on us, Hack-A-Dawg.

[msstate7]

13-27 ft's

[HereComesTheSpiral]

If I was playing us, I would mass sub the walk ons and foul us every chance I got.

[Dawg61]

How did we beat FSU?

[msstate7]

Tenn has 3 guys with 4 fouls and 3 guys with 3 fouls

[thedawg]

This is the worst shit I have ever seen.. If u get us in half court offense we will not score... Absolutely worst shit I have ever seen

[Bothrops]

Can't win if you can't score. Can't win if you can't score. Can't win if you can't score............................................. .................................................. .....................

[Bully13]

Ray supporters at this point have battered wife syndrome. you only concentrate on the new dress he bought you 3 months ago and ignore the 2 black eyes you have and last nights physical abuse.

[Smitty]

How did we beat FSU?

Most tortured fanbase takes greater priority than anything else.. Massive $$$$ down the drain for the fanbase negates our sorry play.

[msstate7]

Tenn is gonna end up beating us with only 4 players on the court

[JohnnyQuid]

Ray supporters at this point have battered wife syndrome. you only concentrate on the new dress he bought you 3 months ago and ignore the 2 black eyes you have and last nights physical abuse.
Lol

[bluelightstar]

UT is in Year 1 with only 9 scholarship players and they are killing us in Ray's third year.

[engie]

Here we are chunking up 3s from the corner when their whole team is in foul trouble...

[Dawg61]

UT is in Year 1 with only 9 scholarship players and they are killing us in Ray's third year.

In the Hump.

[MaxedOutMaroon]

This is how you respond after a win? Ray is garbage and only has a losing mentality. Although it's hard but ray might be worse than Croom. I don't care how bad your talent is, this is unacceptable. Gave him a chance in conference play, good job Scott but it's time to pull the plug. And I used to support ray.

[Political Hack]

y'all still pay attention to basketball?

[Bothrops]

Need to go where the boys aren't.

[msstate7]

I've been very critical of ray, but this crap tonight is on the players. 16-31 FT's tonight.

[msstate7]

I've been very critical of ray, but this crap tonight is on the players. 16-31 FT's tonight.

16-32

[MaxedOutMaroon]

I've been very critical of ray, but this crap tonight is on the players. 16-31 FT's tonight.

Alright explain to me how any of the offensive play calls set up the team to succeed?

[CJDAWG85]

This is on everyone. Players.. coaches.. Hell I'm blaming the trainers too! They didn't provide Michael's Secret Stuff.

[engie]

We could still get back in this if we (gasp) start making a few free throws.

Aren't even hitting the inside of the rim. From the free throw line. That's unacceptable and I don't care whose fault it is.

[CJDAWG85]

Alright explain to me how any of the offensive play calls set up the team to succeed?

The offense makes Stanbury's look fast paced.

[msstate7]

Alright explain to me how any of the offensive play calls set up the team to succeed?
We got to the line with a chance to score. How many of those misses were 1 and 1's? If we just shoot our normal 71% from foul line, we're in this game.

Is Ray blameless? No, but the players shit the bed on the line tonight

[BeardoMSU]

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[thf24]

I keep saying it, but there is no good reason why this team should be this bad. Something has caused them to quit already and I really want to know what it is. Keeping them focused and playing hard is the only thing Ray had going for him the first two years, so what's suddenly caused him to lose them now, before the season was even 1/3 over and they actually had the pieces to be decent?

[BeardoMSU]

Oh...and another missed FT?

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[msstate7]

17-34 ft's

[engie]

I keep saying it, but there is no good reason why this team should be this bad. Something has caused them to quit already and I really want to know what it is. Keeping them focused and playing hard is the only thing Ray had going for him the first two years, so what's suddenly caused him to lose them now, before the season was even 1/3 over and they actually had the pieces to be decent?

Exact same feelings here...

[msstate7]

Get that rebound and we have a shot.

[Bully13]

This is how you respond after a win? Ray is garbage and only has a losing mentality. Although it's hard but ray might be worse than Croom. I don't care how bad your talent is, this is unacceptable. Gave him a chance in conference play, good job Scott but it's time to pull the plug. And I used to support ray.

"giving him a chance in conference play" ? you need "battered wife" therapy

[msstate7]

-15 rebounds. Wow

[Dawg61]

Tennessee has 3 players fouled out and we're still down eight.

[Smitty]

Tennessee has 3 players fouled out and we're still down eight.

And under 50 points. We have shot nearly 40 free throws and only have 45 points lololol

[DudyDawg]

Left w 8 minutes left bc we couldn't make a free throw. You know, the shot where no one covers you and you've been shooting from the same distance since middle school. Those

[Smitty]

Hey jackass dont kill the ball out of bounds when we need possessions.. But you threw dat shit Roq didnt ya!

Made a 3 on the inbound hahahaha

[HailState39110]

This game is tougher to watch than the 3-2 auburn football game

[archdog]

We did nothing well tonight other than play defense for large portions of the game.

[Bucky Dog]

This is the worst shit I have ever seen.. If u get us in half court offense we will not score... Absolutely worst shit I have ever seen

Or at the free throw line or from 3 point range!

[BeardoMSU]

-15 rebounds. Wow

That's the thing: we don't do anything well. We don't rebound, we don't box out, we don't pass, we don't shoot (2s, 3s, or FT's), we don't run any semblance of an offense, etc. etc. We have moments/bursts were we seemingly play good defense (probably having more to do with the shittiness of the SEC as a whole though; not a lot of shooters or handlers), but then we give up a huge run and look like total garbage.

We suck.

[msstate7]

Theres been more 3 points at the shot clock buzzer against us than against any team in basketball history.

God hates Rick ray. There's no doubt we suck, but we have just terrible luck bite us again and again every game

[BeardoMSU]

We did nothing well tonight other than play defense for large portions of the game.

This is a shitttttyyyyyy TN team, though. They looked absolutely horrible, and I don't think it was because of our defense.

[Smitty]

Bottom line Stands should have never been fired.. Why? Because we didn't already have an adequate replacement lined up.

See: Ole Missus firing Cutcliffe

[Bully13]

Stricklin deserves to be fired right now for this hire. this is not Ray's fault. Stricklin is not SEC AD qualified. Stricklin needs to go yesterday... his 17 ups are mounting and the bleeding needs to stop yesterday.

[BeardoMSU]

Left w 8 minutes left bc we couldn't make a free throw. You know, the shot where no one covers you and you've been shooting from the same distance since middle school. Those

makes you wonder what the hell we do in practice, 'cause it sure ain't basketball shit....

[bluelightstar]

This is another one of those games that make it pretty clear that Ray has no shot.

[JohnnyQuid]

Bottom line Stands should have never been fired.. Why? Because we didn't already have an adequate replacement lined up.

See: Ole Missus firing Cutcliffe
Couldn't agree more but kinda past this now. Just need to move on without rick ray hopefully sooner than later.

[nsvltndog]

20 missed free throws and 1 made 3 pointer pretty much sums up the evening

[Irondawg]

Yep, I think he's done. Time to start the search now.

[mic]

Stricklin deserves to be fired right now for this hire. this is not Ray's fault. Stricklin is not SEC AD qualified. Stricklin needs to go yesterday... his 17 ups are mounting and the bleeding needs to stop yesterday.

Best post on this thread... he needs to be AD for women's sports and PR/fundraising..

[Bully13]

Yep, I think he's done. Time to start the search now.


the search should begin with a new AD....Stricklin needs to pack his bags... we don't need that dumbass making anymore decisions that have consequences.

[NCDawg]

the search should begin with a new AD....Stricklin needs to pack his bags... we don't need that dumbass making anymore decisions that have consequences.

Probably true, but Stricklin is Bailey Howell's son-in-law, and Howell more than likely has a good deal of influence with Keenum, and Keenum is probably reluctant to do anything. I think Howell was probably instrumental in getting Stricklin hired in the first place. Just my opinion. which could be totally wrong. Maybe Stricklin was better than anyone else that applied for the job.

[CadaverDawg]

Oh, did we lose again? Maybe you guys should have done what I did several games ago....

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[Quaoarsking]

Stricklin deserves to be fired right now for this hire. this is not Ray's fault. Stricklin is not SEC AD qualified. Stricklin needs to go yesterday... his 17 ups are mounting and the bleeding needs to stop yesterday.

Under Stricklin's watch our football team reached #1 for the first time ever and had one of its 2 or 3 best seasons since integration.
Under Stricklin's watch our baseball team had its best season ever.
Under Stricklin's watch our women's basketball team is likely to have its best season ever.
Under Stricklin's watch our softball team has turned from a bottom-feeder to a legitimately good program.
Under Stricklin's watch our men's tennis team has turned from a bottom-feeder to a legitimately good program.
Under Stricklin's watch our women's golf team has turned from a horrendous bottom-feeder to a legitimately great program.
Under Stricklin's watch our track and field teams have consistently gotten better and better.
Under Stricklin's watch our women's soccer team still blows but it's not any worse than it was when he started.
Under Stricklin's watch our women's volleyball team still blows but it's not any worse than it was when he started.
Under Stricklin's watch our entire athletic stature has noticeably risen.

Even if Ray doesn't turn this around and gets fired, he made more us embarrassing on the court, in exchange for a lot less embarrassing off the court. And even if you don't like that trade, even if you absolutely despise it, the good far outweighs the bad under Stricklin. I'll gladly tank one sport that we weren't that good at anyway in exchange for a bunch of other ones getting much better.

[bluelightstar]

Under Stricklin's watch our football team reached #1 for the first time ever and had one of its 2 or 3 best seasons since integration.
Under Stricklin's watch our baseball team had its best season ever.
Under Stricklin's watch our women's basketball team is likely to have its best season ever.
Under Stricklin's watch our softball team has turned from a bottom-feeder to a legitimately good program.
Under Stricklin's watch our men's tennis team has turned from a bottom-feeder to a legitimately good program.
Under Stricklin's watch our women's golf team has turned from a horrendous bottom-feeder to a legitimately great program.
Under Stricklin's watch our track and field teams have consistently gotten better and better.
Under Stricklin's watch our women's soccer team still blows but it's not any worse than it was when he started.
Under Stricklin's watch our women's volleyball team still blows but it's not any worse than it was when he started.
Under Stricklin's watch our entire athletic stature has noticeably risen.

Even if Ray doesn't turn this around and gets fired, he made more us embarrassing on the court, in exchange for a lot less embarrassing off the court. And even if you don't like that trade, even if you absolutely despise it, the good far outweighs the bad under Stricklin. I'll gladly tank one sport that we weren't that good at anyway in exchange for a bunch of other ones getting much better.

Of course, I think for the main 2 on that list (football and baseball), the obvious rebuttal that people will have is that Stricklin didn't hire Mullen or Byrne. I'm not anti-Stricklin by any means, but that stands out immediately.

[Bully13]

You offer a million to someone with Rick ray's resume means you dont know what the 17 you are doing.

[Coach007]

Under Stricklin's watch our football team reached #1 for the first time ever and had one of its 2 or 3 best seasons since integration.
Under Stricklin's watch our baseball team had its best season ever.
Under Stricklin's watch our women's basketball team is likely to have its best season ever.
Under Stricklin's watch our softball team has turned from a bottom-feeder to a legitimately good program.
Under Stricklin's watch our men's tennis team has turned from a bottom-feeder to a legitimately good program.
Under Stricklin's watch our women's golf team has turned from a horrendous bottom-feeder to a legitimately great program.
Under Stricklin's watch our track and field teams have consistently gotten better and better.
Under Stricklin's watch our women's soccer team still blows but it's not any worse than it was when he started.
Under Stricklin's watch our women's volleyball team still blows but it's not any worse than it was when he started.
Under Stricklin's watch our entire athletic stature has noticeably risen.

Even if Ray doesn't turn this around and gets fired, he made more us embarrassing on the court, in exchange for a lot less embarrassing off the court. And even if you don't like that trade, even if you absolutely despise it, the good far outweighs the bad under Stricklin. I'll gladly tank one sport that we weren't that good at anyway in exchange for a bunch of other ones getting much better.

Already been stated that he did not make all those hires. I'm not anti Stricklin, but a change has to happen in men's basketball.

1- Pure BS that we were not that good in basketball. Fact is that Stans did a lot more with a lot less. South Florida had a bigger friggin budget, yet he was winning.
2- Off court? We have no off court issues? No arrests? You sure?