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msstate7
12-20-2014, 09:10 AM
Today is ray's most important game to date. The honeymoon is over and a loss today could be a deathblow to the season and ray's tenure at state.

Can Ray get his team to respond? We'll find out. Does his team have any heart? We'll find that out too

Coach34
12-20-2014, 09:17 AM
Ray needs to find a way to win these next 5 games

HailState39110
12-20-2014, 09:19 AM
Upstate will not be intimidated at all. They've already played at Maryland, at Memphis, at Ga Tech, and at UCF this year. All the games were fairly close and they beat GA Tech. They also won at South Carolina last year. Ray has his hands full and it will take a very strong effort to win this game.

maroonmania
12-20-2014, 09:19 AM
I wouldn't get my expectations up. SC Upstate is definitely a better team than Arkansas State.

msstate7
12-20-2014, 09:23 AM
I wouldn't get my expectations up. SC Upstate is definitely a better team than Arkansas State.

Yep. I think we're a better team than we've shown the last 3 games though.

Political Hack
12-20-2014, 09:38 AM
Yep. I think we're a better team than we've shown the last 3 games though.

when you're consistently worse than you really are, you really are that bad.

msstate7
12-20-2014, 09:45 AM
when you're consistently worse than you really are, you really are that bad.

Are we the team that won 5 games in a row (2 decent opponents) or are we the team that has lost 4 straight games (2 decent opponents)?

Coincidentally, our demise started about the same time sword came back. We're 1-4 since Craig's return. The 1 win was sword's first game back (st Louis) and most his mins were in mop up duty I believe. Sword is clearly not right and he's killing us right now. I love sword, but I'd severely limit his mins

Quaoarsking
12-20-2014, 10:02 AM
Coincidentally, our demise started about the same time sword came back. We're 1-4 since Craig's return. The 1 win was sword's first game back (st Louis) and most his mins were in mop up duty I believe. Sword is clearly not right and he's killing us right now. I love sword, but I'd severely limit his mins

Wow, I didn't notice that at all. I sure hope that's just a coincidence...

Coach34
12-20-2014, 11:51 AM
Sword started playing better in the 2nd half vs Oregon State...and thats also when we started making our run...we have to have him playing well. If he can turn it on- this team can be decent.

msstate7
12-20-2014, 12:04 PM
Sword started playing better in the 2nd half vs Oregon State...and thats also when we started making our run...we have to have him playing well. If he can turn it on- this team can be decent.

I agree. He still had 6 TO's with his 8 points in that game

CJDAWG85
12-20-2014, 12:38 PM
Is there a line on this game?

msstate7
12-20-2014, 12:52 PM
Is there a line on this game?

I didn't see one

RougeDawg
12-20-2014, 01:23 PM
He should be fired this evening is we lose to a team that I thought Peoole calling them USC Upstate was just some moniker. Just looked on my ESPN score app and that's there real name. I hate to say it but I think we would play better without a head coach the remainder of the year. Take Ray off the sidelines and we might actually play better. It's obvious that his best teams were stans leftovers and his recruits who hadn't been down developed. Let the assistants coach the remainder and see what happens. At least we would have a minor explanation of why we look like a Bad Juco team.

Political Hack
12-20-2014, 01:39 PM
Sword is a 3-man who is being misused. It's not his fault he has to play out of position.

msstate7
12-20-2014, 01:46 PM
He should be fired this evening is we lose to a team that I thought Peoole calling them USC Upstate was just some moniker. Just looked on my ESPN score app and that's there real name. I hate to say it but I think we would play better without a head coach the remainder of the year. Take Ray off the sidelines and we might actually play better. It's obvious that his best teams were stans leftovers and his recruits who hadn't been down developed. Let the assistants coach the remainder and see what happens. At least we would have a minor explanation of why we look like a Bad Juco team.

While I agree we should win, they've beat Georgia tech and lost by 10 at maryland and Memphis

Coach34
12-20-2014, 02:01 PM
Sword is a 3-man who is being misused. It's not his fault he has to play out of position.

a 6'2 3-man is not ideal by any means. 3-man should always be 6'4 or better

Political Hack
12-20-2014, 02:06 PM
a 6'2 3-man is not ideal by any means. 3-man should always be 6'4 or better

in a 3 guard front or as a small forward? very different. his skill set is a million times more important than an inch or two. he's a slasher who can attack the basket. you have to guard him on the perimeter, but he's not a 2 type shooter. He provides a different dynamic and can attack the Rim and create off the dribble. he compliments a more complete scorer (the 2). He's not a complete scorer. He's not a 1 either. I don't think I need to explain that though.

DudyDawg
12-20-2014, 02:37 PM
Dunlap out two weeks w fractured wrist, houston out tonight w a concussion

msstate7
12-20-2014, 02:41 PM
Dunlap out two weeks w fractured wrist, houston out tonight w a concussion

Great

Political Hack
12-20-2014, 02:48 PM
Dunlap out two weeks w fractured wrist, houston out tonight w a concussion

Mississippi State basketball out with ________.

Feel free to fill in the blank guys.

Coach34
12-20-2014, 02:55 PM
Dunlap out two weeks w fractured wrist, houston out tonight w a concussion

wtf? Seriously?

msstate7
12-20-2014, 02:56 PM
Zuppardo out with knee

Sword and ready had/have back issues

Staley says he's gonna play basketball and immediately gets hurt

Dunlap with wrist

Houston with concussion

DudyDawg
12-20-2014, 03:01 PM
wtf? Seriously?

Yup. Gregg ellis tweeted them.

CadaverDawg
12-20-2014, 03:12 PM
http://fitbuddyblog.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/welcome_to_the_suck_by_greasygrandma.jpg?w=245&h=270

quickstrike2
12-20-2014, 03:21 PM
What in the hell do we do during practice, concussions in basketball? I'm sure they happen more than I realize but damn.

Bucky Dog
12-20-2014, 03:47 PM
Anyone want to guess the attendance? I'm saying 1237. They are "giving" tickets away!"

Dawg61
12-20-2014, 04:03 PM
http://fitbuddyblog.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/welcome_to_the_suck_by_greasygrandma.jpg?w=245&h=270

Haha

Dawg61
12-20-2014, 04:04 PM
Kentucky is up 28-2 on UCLA

Big4Dawg
12-20-2014, 04:17 PM
Annnnnnnnnd Ware is down grabbing his ankle, in a lot of pain. Screaming.

HoopsDawg
12-20-2014, 04:19 PM
Annnnnnnnnd Ware is down grabbing his ankle, in a lot of pain. Screaming.

it just sounds louder b/c there are only 325 people at the game.

DownwardDawg
12-20-2014, 04:23 PM
Mississippi State basketball out with ________.

Feel free to fill in the blank guys.

Yeast infection

starkvegasdawg
12-20-2014, 04:31 PM
Was just hearing about some dissension among the ranks on the team. Sounding like some players don't like/jealous of Dunlap. Told his injury in practice had some malice behind it.

msstate7
12-20-2014, 04:37 PM
Was just hearing about some dissension among the ranks on the team. Sounding like some players don't like/jealous of Dunlap. Told his injury in practice had some malice behind it.

So we're back to Hawaii, just on a much smaller stage? Who would be jealous of Dunlap?

Coach34
12-20-2014, 04:37 PM
18 minutes in and Ware, Sword, and Ready havent scored- wow

Coach34
12-20-2014, 04:38 PM
So we're back to Hawaii, just on a much smaller stage? Who would be jealous of Dunlap?

how can they be jealous of Dunlap???? He hardly plays

msstate7
12-20-2014, 04:39 PM
18 minutes in and Ware, Sword, and Ready havent scored- wow

Ray vs croom would be a very close contest on who teaches offense better...

msstate7
12-20-2014, 04:40 PM
how can they be jealous of Dunlap???? He hardly plays

Maybe by not playing, he's the player that gets embarrassed the least**

quickstrike2
12-20-2014, 04:44 PM
Maybe by not playing, he's the player that gets embarrassed the least**

Haha +1000

thf24
12-20-2014, 04:46 PM
Jesus this is pitiful. Keep this up into January and I'd be fine with Strick just pulling the plug.

Liverpooldawg
12-20-2014, 04:47 PM
We are down at the half to a directional school from South Carolina. Let that sink in.

thedawg
12-20-2014, 04:48 PM
This is very Maine ish

msstate7
12-20-2014, 04:49 PM
Jesus this is pitiful. Keep this up into January and I'd be fine with Strick just pulling the plug.

I've supported ray the whole time up until this week. This team has been complete garbage offensively. There's no way I'd even let him finish the year if this crap continues

maroonmania
12-20-2014, 04:52 PM
Just checked in on the score and the defense is apparently looking great! Staying positive and all.

thedawg
12-20-2014, 04:54 PM
We are down at the half to a directional school from South Carolina. Let that sink in.

Lol I thought they were from California... Jesus we suck

starkvegasdawg
12-20-2014, 04:55 PM
how can they be jealous of Dunlap???? He hardly plays

Not going into specifics on a public board, but the info is from a credible source. A possible biased source only seeing things from one side admittedly, but credible. The story reminds me of the Taite/Moulds situation with the respect that the players don't want to pass him the ball. No boning of the other's girlfriend to my knowledge.

JOHNHEVESYMADE
12-20-2014, 04:58 PM
Malik newman in the house hahahaha

Raytoraid83
12-20-2014, 04:59 PM
Just give Rick Ray some time, they said. Rick Ray is X's and O's genius just wait till he gets some players, they said. He inherited a dumpster fire let it play out, they said. THEY PLAY HARD AND HUSTLE, they said.

msstate7
12-20-2014, 05:00 PM
Malik newman in the house hahahaha

Didn't even think of that. If he was a possibility, he won't be after this

Liverpooldawg
12-20-2014, 05:01 PM
Obviously playing hard is more important than winning. That's the only explanation possible for the last few years.

drunkernhelldawg
12-20-2014, 05:08 PM
and all of Strick's horses and all of Strick's men
couldn't put The Hump back together again . . .

Percho
12-20-2014, 05:10 PM
down 6

DudyDawg
12-20-2014, 05:10 PM
22-19!!!! Comeback time!!!! CARDIAC KIDS!!!!

msstate7
12-20-2014, 05:11 PM
Put ware in game and immediately the lead stretches.

thunderclap
12-20-2014, 05:17 PM
If a basketball game was played in the Hump and no one was there to see it, would it make a sound?

thedawg
12-20-2014, 05:19 PM
I'm at in law Christmas with my only distraction being this game updates on Twitter....

drunkernhelldawg
12-20-2014, 05:19 PM
If a basketball game was played in the Hump and no one was there to see it, would it make a sound?

That question needs to be added to the Metaphysics, Mysticism, and Parapsychology class. Make it a little more challenging.

JOHNHEVESYMADE
12-20-2014, 05:21 PM
and all of Strick's horses and all of Strick's men
couldn't put The Hump back together again . . .


Best post ever on ED.

quickstrike2
12-20-2014, 05:29 PM
We have tied this thing up boys. A win like this will get us over the hump**

CadaverDawg
12-20-2014, 05:31 PM
and all of Strick's horses and all of Strick's men
couldn't put The Hump back together again . . .

+1

DownwardDawg
12-20-2014, 05:31 PM
We have tied this thing up boys. A win like this will get us over the hump**

Hail yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!******

CadaverDawg
12-20-2014, 05:31 PM
If a basketball game was played in the Hump and no one was there to see it, would it make a sound?

+1

msstate7
12-20-2014, 05:34 PM
Take a 2-pt lead and before one of our players can get injured again, we're down 5. I'm so f'n sick of this team and coach.

DudyDawg
12-20-2014, 05:37 PM
Wait, we got a lead??? Starting my "how big should we raise Ray's pay" thread

CadaverDawg
12-20-2014, 05:40 PM
Who woulda thought this day would come when we hired Rick Ray?

https://31.media.tumblr.com/3be6107208f308a8160e5384fddae603/tumblr_inline_ne4ryiVxoK1s537qc.gif

quickstrike2
12-20-2014, 05:41 PM
[QUOTE=CadaverDawg;308807]Who woulda thought this day would come when we hired Rick Ray?

He is the floor coach we had to have. Next level.**

HoopsDawg
12-20-2014, 05:42 PM
Who woulda thought this day would come when we hired Rick Ray?

https://31.media.tumblr.com/3be6107208f308a8160e5384fddae603/tumblr_inline_ne4ryiVxoK1s537qc.gif

Well he was the 2nd assistant on a Clemson team that didn't make the NCAAT so pretty solid hire by Stricklin.

Liverpooldawg
12-20-2014, 05:47 PM
Who exactly did y'all think we were gonna get? The names being tossed around at the time were pure fantasy. It was entirely predictable we would have to make a hire like we did. A few people tried to warn us.

RougeDawg
12-20-2014, 05:48 PM
Anyone think we should let our women's team play the remainder of our men's schedule?

Eta: and how f*cking bad are the 5 teams we actually best this year?

quickstrike2
12-20-2014, 05:50 PM
Who exactly did y'all think we were gonna get? The names being tossed around at the time were pure fantasy. It was entirely predictable we would have to make a hire like we did. A few people tried to warn us.

Somebody that had been to the south part of the United States and with possibly one tie to the SEC or Mississippi.

HoopsDawg
12-20-2014, 05:50 PM
Who exactly did y'all think we were gonna get? The names being tossed around at the time were pure fantasy. It was entirely predictable we would have to make a hire like we did. A few people tried to warn us.

I really thought we could get the Murray State coach. Or Kenny Payne.

Quaoarsking
12-20-2014, 05:51 PM
Steve Prohm is still at Murray State, for whatever it's worth.

Still hope Ray can turn it around though.

CadaverDawg
12-20-2014, 05:52 PM
Who exactly did y'all think we were gonna get? The names being tossed around at the time were pure fantasy. It was entirely predictable we would have to make a hire like we did. A few people tried to warn us.

Garbage. I agree Shaka etc were not happening, but We could have hired 200 coaches with better credentials than Rick Ray. He wasn't even an assistant for a good team. Total joke of a hire

maroonmania
12-20-2014, 05:53 PM
I see that Ware and Sword haven't even cracked the scoring column.

AlmostPositive
12-20-2014, 05:53 PM
Win, lose, who cares? The last bit of interest in MSU basketball -- and I used to have a lot -- has been beaten out of me.

archdog
12-20-2014, 05:54 PM
1 for 14 from 3 so far. Tied game with 1:45 left.

CadaverDawg
12-20-2014, 05:54 PM
I see that Ware and Sword haven't even cracked the scoring column.

Way to scheme to get your playmakers involved Rick*

archdog
12-20-2014, 05:55 PM
Tied at 49 with 29 sec left.

archdog
12-20-2014, 05:56 PM
They are up2 with 29 sec left.

archdog
12-20-2014, 05:57 PM
Tied up with 17 to play.

Coach34
12-20-2014, 05:59 PM
Garbage. I agree Shaka etc were not happening, but We could have hired 200 coaches with better credentials than Rick Ray. He wasn't even an assistant for a good team. Total joke of a hire

Shaka Smart said it would take 3MM- wesaid no ****ing way
We offered Prohm twice- he said no both times

maroonmania
12-20-2014, 06:00 PM
Maybe we will get OT. More free basketball.

Coach34
12-20-2014, 06:00 PM
I see that Ware and Sword haven't even cracked the scoring column.

This is what is concerning...how does Ware go an entire game without a basket or a rebound?

archdog
12-20-2014, 06:01 PM
Down 2 with 5.3 sec left.

CadaverDawg
12-20-2014, 06:03 PM
Shaka Smart said it would take 3MM- wesaid no ****ing way
We offered Prohm twice- he said no both times

Point?

Even going the Assistant route, we could have gotten a far better assistant. Or a lower Division head coach. Ray is not a head coach...you could tell in his first interview. The fact that Scott thought he was, concerns me.

Irondawg
12-20-2014, 06:03 PM
We have not been able to get stops in the last 1:30 during this stretch. That has been somethjng as consistent as our inability to hit a 3

chef dixon
12-20-2014, 06:04 PM
How can a group of guys that have played basketball every single day of their life be this bad at shooting the ****ing ball?

Bucky Dog
12-20-2014, 06:05 PM
Score?

Quaoarsking
12-20-2014, 06:06 PM
We lost.

maroonmania
12-20-2014, 06:07 PM
Way to bounce back though guys! After a 14 point loss to ASU at home we only lose by 2 points to SC Upstate at a neutral site. This team is definitely improving!

chef dixon
12-20-2014, 06:07 PM
With this performance we have dropped to 339th out of 345 D1 basketball teams in 3 point percentage.

Saltydog
12-20-2014, 06:08 PM
behind the arc. Absolutely atrocious.

quickstrike2
12-20-2014, 06:08 PM
Shaka Smart said it would take 3MM- wesaid no ****ing way
We offered Prohm twice- he said no both times

Well we need to shut the program down if a Clemson assistant is the best we can do.

archdog
12-20-2014, 06:27 PM
Exactly. Time to make a change. I hate to say it, but damn I am ready to get into basketball again. None of rays teams have given me one reason to get excited.

Bucky Dog
12-20-2014, 06:47 PM
Go ahead and send him on his way

Dawg61
12-21-2014, 02:40 AM
How can a group of guys that have played basketball every single day of their life be this bad at shooting the ****ing ball?

I wonder this often and the only answer is that not a damn one of them has brains worth a shit. None of them have any physical limitations whatsoever yet they still haven't been able to teach themselves how to shoot. They don't understand the shooting motion and it's one of the easier crucial sports muscle memory motions to learn correctly. The golf swing for example is a whole heck of a lot harder to master than the shooting motion is. We need smarter players guys.

RougeDawg
12-21-2014, 10:20 AM
Well we need to shut the program down if a Clemson assistant is the best we can do.

Wasn't even Clemson's top assistant on top of that. About 90% of the fan base thought it was a bad hire but our AD didn't. Make me wonder if ther needs to be a change there the same time we replace RR.

Political Hack
12-21-2014, 10:35 AM
With this performance we have dropped to 339th out of 345 D1 basketball teams in 3 point percentage.

can't be. Ricky Ray's Rowdies told me we got better at shooting.

Drunkerenhelldawg deserves a damn medal for that post too...