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Dawg61
11-26-2014, 09:54 AM
is on SportsCenter this morning telling us MSU fans to be prepared to get dropped out of the 4th spot after Championship week. All smug like. Fu@k we need an upset in one of these final games so bad. Come on Texas, Michigan, Florida, Auburn. Pretty strong four traditionally to need just one win from.

UMCDawg16
11-26-2014, 10:00 AM
Brad Edwards said on OOB yesterday that he would be "shocked" if Bama, Oregon, FSU, and OSU did not lose a game this week or next, and I tend to agree with him. The pressure is mounting and teams will crack. Remember last year how all those top teams lost in the past 1-2 weeks? Expect the same to happen this year. Assuming we take care of business against OM, that's all we need to happen to stay in the top-4.

engie
11-26-2014, 10:05 AM
3 of the 7 will lose...

At least...

msstate7
11-26-2014, 10:16 AM
3 of the 7 will lose...

At least...

Let's just not be one of them. Bama winning iron bowl may be a good thing

Bubb Rubb
11-26-2014, 10:18 AM
is on SportsCenter this morning telling us MSU fans to be prepared to get dropped out of the 4th spot after Championship week. All smug like. Fu@k we need an upset in one of these final games so bad. Come on Texas, Michigan, Florida, Auburn. Pretty strong four traditionally to need just one win from.

I hope everybody wins out so that when we still make it, everyone will wonder why they were so wrong.

Coach34
11-26-2014, 10:32 AM
We win and we are in

Smitty
11-26-2014, 10:36 AM
I wish there were some way to play Ohio State in the 2-3 game.

HailState39110
11-26-2014, 10:42 AM
Ohio state is our biggest threat to me if they win the Big ten championship I feel the committee will put them in

I think if Florida state gets by Florida , Georgia tech will take them down and we are looking at Bama, Oregon, MSU, Ohio State

thunderclap
11-26-2014, 10:43 AM
I would give my right one to somehow end up playing Ohio State in the playoffs.

Coach34
11-26-2014, 10:43 AM
Why? What leads you to believe that's the committee's plan?

mparkerfd20
11-26-2014, 10:46 AM
We win and we are in

Agree, but it will be because FSU, Bama, Oregon, OSU, or TCU lose, not only the fact that we won. At least 1 of those will lose in the next 2 weeks. Mark it down.

I seen it dawg
11-26-2014, 11:03 AM
is on SportsCenter this morning telling us MSU fans to be prepared to get dropped out of the 4th spot after Championship week. All smug like. Fu@k we need an upset in one of these final games so bad. Come on Texas, Michigan, Florida, Auburn. Pretty strong four traditionally to need just one win from.

Annnnnddd you listen to Matich, Matich!, and take it as what's going to happen? Ok

Jack Lambert
11-26-2014, 11:07 AM
Who is Trevor and why does he matter? That guy has been hating us for ever.

Coach34
11-26-2014, 11:09 AM
Agree, but it will be because FSU, Bama, Oregon, OSU, or TCU lose, not only the fact that we won. At least 1 of those will lose in the next 2 weeks. Mark it down.

The committee is keeping Ohio State 6th for a reason. They arent jumping anybody.

Bully041184
11-26-2014, 11:10 AM
Who is Trevor and why does he matter? That guy has been hating us for ever.


Just a big fatty taking up space. I guess he played ball somewhere that people think he's relevant.

ShotgunDawg
11-26-2014, 11:12 AM
The committee is keeping Ohio State 6th for a reason. They arent jumping anybody.

This, Ohio State is 6th, not 5th and they are 6th for a reason.

That being said, do we really want TCU to lose?

I'm wondering if a Big 12 tie is in our best interest.

dawgpound
11-26-2014, 11:13 AM
We need one of those teams to lose. We will get jumped if everyone continues to win out.

DudyDawg
11-26-2014, 11:16 AM
We won't get jumped by anyone. For one, the big twelve doesn't have a real conference champ. Two, conference titles are just a part of the equation, and will be discussed if things are equal. Ohio state cannot get equal to us, therefore rendering that conference title irrelevant, because their loss is an anchor on their chances. Win and we are in.

Bubb Rubb
11-26-2014, 11:19 AM
We need one of those teams to lose. We will get jumped if everyone continues to win out.

No we won't. Geez, some of you guys are going overboard with this. We looked like crap against KY and they kept us there. We lost to Alabama and they kept us in the top 4. Our previous opponents have dropped out of the top 25 but they've kept us in there. Talking heads on ESPN are openly campaigning for OSU but they've kept them sixth. We win saturday, and we are in, no matter what anyone else does. It's that simple.

The head of the friggin' committee is the AD for Arkansas - an SEC West team. His own coach is playing in the SEC West after going to multiple rose bowls at a Big 10 school. They know who the best four teams in the country are, and that's who is going to get in. All we have to do is win saturday.

ShotgunDawg
11-26-2014, 11:32 AM
You guys really think the committee would drop a team out that has been in EVERY poll so far in the top 4?

I'm not saying your wrong, because I don't know anything. Bo Bounds is on the black helicopters, market size, MSU is going to get screwed bandwagon as well.

I'm just saying that their is no evidence yet by the committee to insinuate that they will do this. That's all. Believe what you want, but as of right now, the committee really likes and has shown no signs of screwing us.

Personally, I believe if they planned on screwing us, they would already have us out of the top 4 or have Ohio State at 5.

Coach34
11-26-2014, 11:37 AM
You guys really think the committee would drop a team out that has been in EVERY poll so far in the top 4?

Another outstanding point...I'm gonna steal that

dawgpound
11-26-2014, 11:39 AM
We will have only beaten one team ranked in the top 25 at the end of the year and everyone knows they will not want to have 2 SEC teams in it. I think one of the teams if not multiple will lose though.

Bubb Rubb
11-26-2014, 11:45 AM
We will have only beaten one team ranked in the top 25 at the end of the year and everyone knows they will not want to have 2 SEC teams in it. I think one of the teams if not multiple will lose though.

Arizona State
Georgia TEch
Minnesota
Oklahoma
Clemson
Louisville
Boise State
Marshall
Utah

What do these teams all have in common?
1) They are currently in the top 25, ahead of Arkansas and LSU
2) They would all be underdogs to Arkansas and LSU if those games were played on a neutral field.

Relax.

I seen it dawg
11-26-2014, 12:13 PM
We will have only beaten one team ranked in the top 25 at the end of the year and everyone knows they will not want to have 2 SEC teams in it. I think one of the teams if not multiple will lose though.

Pay attention. Long said last night on TV that they take into account where they were rated when the game was played.

Not one damn talking head has a damn clue what is happening. And it pisses them off so they get louder and louder. None of them knows shit about shit and it's killing them.

GTHOM
11-26-2014, 12:17 PM
Trevor Matich has no clue. He was on SC this morning saying RG 3 was not elusive. I know its random but just goes to show what an idiot he is. He also hammered dillon day but hasnt said a word about bryant throwing a punch for ole miss. neither has anyone else... We win out, and we are in. Theres a reason OSU is 6

Dawgowar
11-26-2014, 01:22 PM
The talking heads have lost clout they did not foresee losing with this system.
The talking heads see their relevance slip-sliding away so far as playoff prognostication goes.
They still have to sell beer and Viagra commercials on their tv shows and radio call in opportunities.
They did not know dick under the old system but had a facade of influence.
Now they are grabbing at straws trying to make educated guesses and they are being humiliated.
Me thinks that a committee comprised of former coaches, players, politicians, and college athletic lifers are enjoying how the journalist class is fumbling this bad.
The lone variable that worries me is the post championship rating, and that is a mild worry.
Just win. Leave no TSUN loss as a blight upon our season.
Rebel Bears eat boogers.

engie
11-26-2014, 01:42 PM
We will have only beaten one team ranked in the top 25 at the end of the year
How do you propose to make that happen? It's basically impossible.

Arkansas beats Mizzou? Ranked
Winner of aTm/LSU? Ranked
Auburn and OM would have to totally get destroyed to fall out from their current positions.

Better chance we'd have beaten 4 ranked teams than only beaten one.

blacklistedbully
11-26-2014, 01:46 PM
We won't get jumped by anyone. For one, the big twelve doesn't have a real conference champ. Two, conference titles are just a part of the equation, and will be discussed if things are equal. Ohio state cannot get equal to us, therefore rendering that conference title irrelevant, because their loss is an anchor on their chances. Win and we are in.

The B12 has a real conference champ. They just don't have a championship game. They are a single division league. Don't make the mistake of thinking, "NO CG = no champ". Part of the committee's charter is to give credence to "Conference Champions", not "CG Winners".

Dawg4Life
11-26-2014, 01:52 PM
is on SportsCenter this morning telling us MSU fans to be prepared to get dropped out of the 4th spot after Championship week. All smug like. Fu@k we need an upset in one of these final games so bad. Come on Texas, Michigan, Florida, Auburn. Pretty strong four traditionally to need just one win from.

Danny Sheridan was just asked who had the best chance of getting the 4th spot. He said we were the LEAST likely to get the spot. I've never seen bigger sheep/haters in all of my life. I'm going to have to quit watching TV.

Bubb Rubb
11-26-2014, 01:55 PM
Danny Sheridan was just asked who had the best chance of getting the 4th spot. He said we were the LEAST likely to get the spot. I've never seen bigger sheep/haters in all of my life. I'm going to have to quit watching TV.

If we win Saturday, there's going to be a lot of butthurt over that final ranking out there. I think that's the first time I've ever used that word, but it's appropriate. Riots in Ferguson? You ain't seen nothin' yet.

DudyDawg
11-26-2014, 01:56 PM
The B12 has a real conference champ. They just don't have a championship game. They are a single division league. Don't make the mistake of thinking, "NO CG = no champ". Part of the committee's charter is to give credence to "Conference Champions", not "CG Winners".

It appears they don't have a real conference champ. Instead, they have co champs, and use the tie breaker system simply to decide bowl tie ins.

http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=1546006

Nowhere in this does it say anything about a tie breaker deciding the actual champion. That's the first article I saw, so maybe you've seen something else, but this is what I've heard all along. Co champs

defiantdog
11-26-2014, 01:56 PM
Ohio State lost to Virginia Tech..... That should take them out of the conversation right there.

GTHOM
11-26-2014, 02:48 PM
Danny Sheridan was just asked who had the best chance of getting the 4th spot. He said we were the LEAST likely to get the spot. I've never seen bigger sheep/haters in all of my life. I'm going to have to quit watching TV.

Sheridan has picked against State in every game this year on Finebaum

I seen it dawg
11-26-2014, 03:07 PM
Matich has been given 10 mins on Pawwwwwlllll show and has absolutely 100% confirmed he doesn't have a ****ing clue what he is talking about. Admitted as much at one point.

cheewgumm
11-26-2014, 03:11 PM
The other part i ove is them
Setting up the false narrative that we have to blow out oleiss to prove we deserve to stay at 4. He and Herbstreet day this.

GTHOM
11-26-2014, 03:18 PM
Matich has been given 10 mins on Pawwwwwlllll show and has absolutely 100% confirmed he doesn't have a ****ing clue what he is talking about. Admitted as much at one point.

Hahahaha i tweeted finebaum to take him off the show. hes as bad as those two random guys they put on there

QuadrupleOption
11-26-2014, 03:19 PM
The B12 has a real conference champ. They just don't have a championship game. They are a single division league. Don't make the mistake of thinking, "NO CG = no champ". Part of the committee's charter is to give credence to "Conference Champions", not "CG Winners".

If we beat TSUN we are co-champions of the toughest division in college football.

SEC West co-champion > B1G champ. Period. And I bet the committee sees it the same way.

sleepy dawg
11-26-2014, 03:51 PM
If there is any question at all, the Committee will only take 1 SEC team. If everything holds like it is now, we are out.

I have never claimed to have a reliable source, but this is from as reliable of a source as you can get that is not on the actual committee. If I turn out to be wrong, I will never claim to have a source again.

I'm sorry guys, but we need Alabama to lose and we need to win the SEC Championship.

engie
11-26-2014, 03:59 PM
If there is any question at all, the Committee will only take 1 SEC team. If everything holds like it is now, we are out.

I have never claimed to have a reliable source, but this is from as reliable of a source as you can get that is not on the actual committee. If I turn out to be wrong, I will never claim to have a source again.

I'm sorry guys, but we need Alabama to lose and we need to win the SEC Championship.

If "everything holds like it is now, we are out" -- why are we still ranked #4? Makes zero sense.

sleepy dawg
11-26-2014, 04:15 PM
If "everything holds like it is now, we are out" -- why are we still ranked #4? Makes zero sense.

I didn't say I understand it. Everything doesn't even have to hold as it is. He was adamant that even if FSU loses, we are out. There will only be 1 team per conference if it is at all possible.

engie
11-26-2014, 04:18 PM
I didn't say I understand it. Everything doesn't even have to hold as it is. He was adamant that even if FSU loses, we are out. There will only be 1 team per conference if it is at all possible.

You've been handed a heavy dose of bullshit by someone that's probably laughing right now. If it was about locking out a second team, it would have been written into the rules, and they would have called it 4 conference champs.

There is not some grand anti-SEC conspiracy going on here. Contrary to(apparently) popular belief. If we're deserving in the end, we will be in.

Bubb Rubb
11-26-2014, 04:32 PM
I didn't say I understand it. Everything doesn't even have to hold as it is. He was adamant that even if FSU loses, we are out. There will only be 1 team per conference if it is at all possible.



Your source is either a moron or a troll. Either way, I appreciate the chuckle.

RougeDawg
11-26-2014, 05:58 PM
If we win we are in. Period. If conference championships were one of the most crucial criteria for this playoff, we would have dropped to 5-7 after Bama. The committee had their out to drop is from top 4. But they didn't because they believe we are a top 4 team. I honestly believe they think we are #1-2 but cannot put us there based on Bama's position and FSU not losing. No way they would let SEC have two top seeds, but by us holding steady shows they truly think we are one of best 4.

This shit isn't the BCS and the committee will not have to defend keeping us #4 of we win Saturday. We will finish 11-1 in the toughest division of the best conference with our only loss neon on the road at #1 by 5 points while losing turnover battle by 3. They would not have to defend selecting us one second.

Dawg61
11-26-2014, 06:09 PM
I really think Ohio State, Florida State, Oregon and Bama have a chance to lose a game. I think both Texas schools TCU and Baylor will win out. But those two don't hurt us. Only Ohio State can jump us now and that won't even matter if we just get ONE of those first four I mentioned to lose. Only takes one. Then we are in for sure.

Coach34
11-26-2014, 06:13 PM
We have been in the top 4 for EVERY POLL

What are Ohio State, TCU, or Baylor going to do that is big enough to remove us? Nothing. Our only loss is on the road by 5 to the best team in the country- besides us. They arent moving us out after we settle all Family business Saturday

Dawg61
11-26-2014, 06:19 PM
We have been in the top 4 for EVERY POLL

What are Ohio State, TCU, or Baylor going to do that is big enough to remove us? Nothing. Our only loss is on the road by 5 to the best team in the country- besides us. They arent moving us out after we settle all Family business Saturday

Sorry unfortunately I don't agree. If everyone wins out we'll get dropped for Ohio State. The TV people will demand it. TV runs college football now. They are the ones that pay the SEC, ACC, B1G, Pac12 these gigantic contracts. They want all four of these conferences to get a representative if possible. We'll get dropped as an 11-1 SEC school for a 12-1 B1G Champ. We just will.

Political Hack
11-26-2014, 06:21 PM
If there is any question at all, the Committee will only take 1 SEC team. If everything holds like it is now, we are out.

I have never claimed to have a reliable source, but this is from as reliable of a source as you can get that is not on the actual committee. If I turn out to be wrong, I will never claim to have a source again.

I'm sorry guys, but we need Alabama to lose and we need to win the SEC Championship.

I'm 90% sure I know who your source is now and I'm 99% sure that he has as much insights into that room as you and I. I've heard the same through the same channel, but he knows nothing about the inside of the playoff committee room.

I seen it dawg
11-26-2014, 07:03 PM
Sorry unfortunately I don't agree. If everyone wins out we'll get dropped for Ohio State. The TV people will demand it. TV runs college football now. They are the ones that pay the SEC, ACC, B1G, Pac12 these gigantic contracts. They want all four of these conferences to get a representative if possible. We'll get dropped as an 11-1 SEC school for a 12-1 B1G Champ. We just will.

Is it not obvious with all the jackasses at espn dumbfounded by all this that they don't know shit? Which means they have zero control.

Dawg61
11-26-2014, 07:06 PM
Is it not obvious with all the jackasses at espn dumbfounded by all this that they don't know shit? Which means they have zero control.

I guess not yet to me. I just can't imagine the TV Networks have no say in this after they've invested billions of dollars into this product.

I seen it dawg
11-26-2014, 07:16 PM
I guess not yet to me. I just can't imagine the TV Networks have no say in this after they've invested billions of dollars into this product.

It's not like they can rip the contract up and start over. The committee would have to put Vandy, Kansas, Colorado and Indiana in the playoff to catch hell at all.

msstate7
11-26-2014, 07:21 PM
I guess not yet to me. I just can't imagine the TV Networks have no say in this after they've invested billions of dollars into this product.

The most watched game each week has involved sec teams all but 2 weeks...

Week 2 -- usc vs Stanford
Week 8 -- ND vs fsu

Bama, kentucky, and auburn games with us were the most watched in their week. Tv wouldn't mind us


http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/college-football-tv-ratings/

Dawg61
11-26-2014, 07:39 PM
The most watched game each week has involved sec teams all but 2 weeks...

Week 2 -- usc vs Stanford
Week 8 -- ND vs fsu

Bama, kentucky, and auburn games with us were the most watched in their week. Tv wouldn't mind us


http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/college-football-tv-ratings/

Like this!!

TaleofTwoDogs
11-26-2014, 08:18 PM
I guess not yet to me. I just can't imagine the TV Networks have no say in this after they've invested billions of dollars into this product.

big difference, their buying inventory for immediate resale. The novelty of an MSU in the title game is probably as big a draw as an Ohio State that has a history of getting skulldragged in the natty, specially by a SEC team. We are the quintessential underdog and America loves its underdogs.

msstate7
11-26-2014, 08:21 PM
big difference, their buying inventory for immediate resale. The novelty of an MSU in the title game is probably as big a draw as an Ohio State that has a history of getting skulldragged in the natty, specially by a SEC team. We are the quintessential underdog and America loves its underdogs.

We're the sec also. Whether people like or hate the sec, they watch

sleepy dawg
11-26-2014, 08:28 PM
I'm 90% sure I know who your source is now and I'm 99% sure that he has as much insights into that room as you and I. I've heard the same through the same channel, but he knows nothing about the inside of the playoff committee room.

100% sure you or no one has any clue who it is. I agree he has no insight into the room directly. This person is not a coach, player, or media, nor is he affiliated with any single university.

And to engie, I said nothing about bias, but it is about conference champions. I hope I'm wrong and so is my source.