If your on the fence about whether the media hates us or not, read this

[ShotgunDawg]

I guess they just make stuff up if the facts don't fit their agenda. Just an awful article by West Coast media

http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/college-football-playoff-rankings-fox-four-top-10-poll-oregon-fsu-alabama-baylor-112314

[SDDawg]

"Yes, their loss was to Alabama, but no matter how you may feel about the SEC, they simply haven't won as many quality games as Baylor and TCU.”

Dafuq?!

[ShotgunDawg]

How about the fact that, at the end of the article, they said we only beat Texas A&M by 3 points.... Uh, we won by 17

[msstate7]

Really shocked that the big 12 and pac 12 tv network didn't include us and put bama at 3***

[smootness]

How about the fact that, at the end of the article, they said we only beat Texas A&M by 3 points.... Uh, we won by 17

And said our best wins didn't come easy...despite all 3 of those top 10 wins coming in dominant fashion.

[ShotgunDawg]

Really shocked that the big 12 and pac 12 tv network didn't include us and put bama at 3***

Oh, I agree. It's not surprising at all, even expected. But, they had to make stuff up. Inaccurate facts.

[FlabLoser]

The suits are pushing for teams in big markets.

[ShotgunDawg]

And said our best wins didn't come easy...despite all 3 of those top 10 wins coming in dominant fashion.

It's unreal. It's a clear attempt to discredit MSU and sway the committee. Pretty sad that national writers, that are respected, like Bruce Feldman put their name on inaccurate articles.

Actually, I've never had respect for Bruce Feldman. I've always thought he was biased and unaware. He's a good writer, but he's just not very good with the substance part.

But tomorrow morning, Bo Bounds will pump his book "The QB" and talk about how great Bruce Feldman is. What Bruce Feldman is, is unprofessional for putting his name on an article that has clear inaccuracies on facts.

[gravedigger]

Fox cred in anythig is suspect. Using all west coast names to give what i supposed is their definition of fair and balanced is, shall we say, apropos.

[LC Dawg]

According to them we are trending down. That's hilarious. I guess we should have won 101-0.

[ShotgunDawg]

This is great. Someone just tweeted this out.

Strength of Schedule for Dummies

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B3LZpwjCYAA0Din.jpg

[cheewgumm]

They are re-writing history as we speak. All our wins are meaningless....SEC is over rated.... Eye etc etc.

This is/ was predictable and will only get worse and worse as years go on.

[messageboardsuperhero]

How about the fact that, at the end of the article, they said we only beat Texas A&M by 3 points.... Uh, we won by 17

Yep. That one was just an outright ****ing lie.

Saying the LSU and A&M wins didn't come easy is egregiously bad journalism... Just totally false on so many levels.

[Todd4State]

It's the committee that matters- not the media. As long as the committee keeps us at four, we will be in.

If anything happens, I suspect they will expand the playoffs to eight teams- which was probably inevitable anyway.

[Todd4State]

According to them we are trending down. That's hilarious. I guess we should have won 101-0.

If we had done that- or maybe more realistically won say 65-0 which we certainly could have done had we wanted to- Dan would have been bashed for running up the score.

Criticism is something we are going to have to deal with no matter what. The best thing we can do is stand up for ourselves.

[cheewgumm]

Shotgun great graph. That needs to be sent EVERYWHERE!!!

[msstate7]

It's the committee that matters- not the media. As long as the committee keeps us at four, we will be in.

If anything happens, I suspect they will expand the playoffs to eight teams- which was probably inevitable anyway.

The media that keeps saying this stuff is the minority...

Ap (media) poll:
1. Bama
2. Oregon
3. Fsu
4. State
5. Baylor
6. Tcu
7. Ohio state

[SDDawg]

How about the fact that, at the end of the article, they said we only beat Texas A&M by 3 points.... Uh, we won by 17

And could have beat them by 30 if we'd left the starters in.

[Quaoarsking]

Good thing none of these clowns is on the Committee.

We really should put a moratorium on these "look what this random media member said about us!!" threads...

[ShotgunDawg]

Shotgun great graph. That needs to be sent EVERYWHERE!!!

Well... send away

[ShotgunDawg]

Good thing none of these clowns is on the Committee.

We really should put a moratorium on these "look what this random media member said about us!!" threads...

Why?

I think it's best to be educated about them and fight back. Or we can just ignore things and let people run over us like the State of Mississippi has been doing for 200 years?

[DancingRabbit]

We need to get Matt after these clowns, and get him after Dennis Dodd.

[SDDawg]

Totally agree with msstate7 that this is a vocal minority, mostly talking heads designed to drive TV ratings. But they are really undermining the system and are going to drive viewers away if they aren't careful. They should be promoting more Power 5 matchups and an expanded playoff instead of propping up a shitty Big 12.

[Todd4State]

Why?

I think it's best to be educated about them and fight back. Or we can just ignore things and let people run over us like the State of Mississippi has been doing for 200 years?

Even though I don't think it will matter much as long as we win the Egg Bowl, I do agree we should educate them and fight back. Fighting back will not hurt us in this case and will only make us look better.

[ShotgunDawg]

Even though I don't think it will matter much as long as we win the Egg Bowl, I do agree we should educate them and fight back. Fighting back will not hurt us in this case and will only make us look better.

YUP

[Todd4State]

Totally agree with msstate7 that this is a vocal minority, mostly talking heads designed to drive TV ratings. But they are really undermining the system and are going to drive viewers away if they aren't careful. They should be promoting more Power 5 matchups and an expanded playoff instead of propping up a shitty Big 12.

I guarantee you the ratings will be fine. If you are an Ohio State fan, they'll watch us to cheer against us. I personally think it has more to do with promoting the Big 10 more than anything.

I have a feeling that this is how it will go down:

1. Right now, they are going to try to promote the Big 10/Big 12 and say that they should be in.
2. If we get in, they will concede that we are deserving BUT all the conference champs should at least have a shot. And therefore they should expand to eight.

The media really wants March Madness with college football. And that's what this is about.

[Quaoarsking]

Why?

I think it's best to be educated about them and fight back. Or we can just ignore things and let people run over us like the State of Mississippi has been doing for 200 years?

The majority of the media has us at #4 or higher. The few who don't are either hacks for a particular school they're covering or are just trolls looking for page views. We already know the Committee doesn't care what the hacks and the trolls think. It's been very pro-SEC so far and will continue to be. As long as we finish 11-1 or 12-1, we are in, and all of the Big 10 beat writers in the country are powerless to change that.

It would be one thing if we were actually going to change minds of people who have power in this situation. But the people who are excluding us aren't looking to have their minds changed and don't have a shred of say in the matter.

It's better not to have the board whipped up in a 2-week-long tizzy over nothing. Especially when it brings out this weird persecution complex in lots of us that makes the whole board look silly.

[TimberBeast]

They are re-writing history as we speak. All our wins are meaningless....SEC is over rated.... Eye etc etc.

This is/ was predictable and will only get worse and worse as years go on.

Exactly. Why do you think a committee was formed in the first place? If we were using the BCS formula (which has worked almost perfectly for years) we would be ranked #2 or #3. The committee was formed to make sure a pac 10 and big 10 team are included in the playoffs. The SEC was stupid to go along with it. If we beat Mississippi there is no way to keep us out unless the committee just decides to for conference reasons.

[dawgs]

Wouldn't expect anything intelligent from a fox affiliated site ;)

[dawgs]

Exactly. Why do you think a committee was formed in the first place? If we were using the BCS formula (which has worked almost perfectly for years) we would be ranked #2 or #3. The committee was formed to make sure a pac 10 and big 10 team are included in the playoffs. The SEC was stupid to go along with it. If we beat Mississippi there is no way to keep us out unless the committee just decides to for conference reasons.

The committee is a lot more intelligent than these fools looking to get clicks.

[ShotgunDawg]

Exactly. Why do you think a committee was formed in the first place? If we were using the BCS formula (which has worked almost perfectly for years) we would be ranked #2 or #3. The committee was formed to make sure a pac 10 and big 10 team are included in the playoffs. The SEC was stupid to go along with it. If we beat Mississippi there is no way to keep us out unless the committee just decides to for conference reasons.

Agree. Allowing a SUBJECTIVE committee to decide the playoff instead of the OBJECTIVE BCS rankings, was possibly Slive's worst move. Can only hurt the SEC.

What keeps conference reps from making alliances in this thing? If you vote for us this year, I'll vote for you next year.

[cheewgumm]

It was a terrible mistake and will be bad for the SEC in the long run.

Look what's happening now. Everyone is screaming "sec bias". They will have themselves convinced that the Only reason the SEC won all those titles was because it "wasn't fair ". Then soon enough we have 2004 all over again.

[cheewgumm]

SEC should prepare itself for a propaganda war next year. IF they keep this at 4 teams I predict next year's onslaught of the SEC by the media will dwarf this years.

[Todd4State]

SEC should prepare itself for a propaganda war next year. IF they keep this at 4 teams I predict next year's onslaught of the SEC by the media will dwarf this years.

That's not going to happen. Why? ESPN/SEC alliance. As long as the SEC has ESPN on their side, we are good.

If anything it will be like this year where they talk about why Texas or Ohio State should be in and there is nothing that they can do about it.

[Todd4State]

Agree. Allowing a SUBJECTIVE committee to decide the playoff instead of the OBJECTIVE BCS rankings, was possibly Slive's worst move. Can only hurt the SEC.

What keeps conference reps from making alliances in this thing? If you vote for us this year, I'll vote for you next year.

It will be better when it goes to eight teams I think. That was every big five conference at least will have one representative in. When that happens and you have an all SEC match-up for the title, it could make us look better. Of course, they'll put us all on the same side of the bracket so we cannibalize ourselves.

[Dawgowar]

This is just templated coverage. Fox entertainment/sports is not controlled by Fox News. Fox News rose to prominence giving an editorial nod to flyover country. That trended to the right. It was an underserved market that gravitated to not being ignored.

Fox Sports has the rights to a weakened Big 12, thanks Texas and the Longhorn Network driving the Aggies away, with no playoff? Their in conference schedules are a joke. If Baylor or TCU loses they both tumble hard. Fox is just trying to promote their two major investments. Brando has to be dying on the inside. Whether he hates us not withstanding he loves SEC ball and its history. I am chuckling at that.

If both these conferences miss the playoff that will not bode well for Fox coverage next year. They will have to spend more cash to promote their weaker sports cable Outlets /packages. I have mixed feelings on that since apart from event coverage I loathe ESPN's constant political correctness and talking heads screeching about the very industry that provides them opportunity.

Thankfully the committee seems insulated frome this influence. The lone variable waiting to be seen is how they break things down post conference CG's.

[yakalot]

...He's a good writer...

So was Goebbels.

[coastratdog]

This is great. Someone just tweeted this out.

Strength of Schedule for Dummies

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B3LZpwjCYAA0Din.jpg

I love this. I wish it would show all the one lost teams to better illustrate "strength of schedule". Then send it off to all media outlets.

[BulldogBear]

You know the thought that occurs to me. If we are so overrated (the SEC too, not just us), now that we have to schedule Power 5s..... why are all these schedule bashing 17ers not lighting up the ADs of all 14 SEC schools to schedule us so they can prove how weak we are?

[Quaoarsking]

Agree. Allowing a SUBJECTIVE committee to decide the playoff instead of the OBJECTIVE BCS rankings, was possibly Slive's worst move. Can only hurt the SEC.

What keeps conference reps from making alliances in this thing? If you vote for us this year, I'll vote for you next year.

While true objective rankings are certainly superior to subjective committee rankings, the BCS rankings were anything but objective. Only one of the 6 computer formulas was created any someone with a math/stats background, and none of them were allowed to use margin of victory. Five of them kept their formulas totally secret so we would never even know if they had a mistake -- the one that made its formula public actually did have a mistake one year that was caught a few days after the fact, so it's not unheard of. The fact that it would be so hard so agree on what constitutes an objective ranking system is why they went with a committee.


Every needs to remember that the Committee has been extremely pro-SEC thus far. While that doesn't prove it will be on Dec. 7, it suggests that it probably will continue to be. Remember that most college football fans are 100% convinced that the Committee is biased FOR the SEC and that we are a lock. It's only on a few SEC message boards that anyone thinks the opposite.

[Tbonewannabe]

It is hilarious that the SEC West is now down. The only teams to beat SEC West teams are other SEC West teams. I think the only loss is UGA beating Ark.

[dawgs]

It is hilarious that the SEC West is now down. The only teams to beat SEC West teams are other SEC West teams. I think the only loss is UGA beating Ark.

Uga beat auburn and a&m lost to mizzou.

[Tbonewannabe]

Uga beat auburn and a&m lost to mizzou.

Just completely forgot about those two.

[Maroonthirteen]

That is a cool graphic. But I believe Arkansas is better than Minnesota, PSU, Miami and Notre Dame.

[Johnson85]

Every needs to remember that the Committee has been extremely pro-SEC thus far. While that doesn't prove it will be on Dec. 7, it suggests that it probably will continue to be. Remember that most college football fans are 100% convinced that the Committee is biased FOR the SEC and that we are a lock. It's only on a few SEC message boards that anyone thinks the opposite.

The committee hasn't been pro-sec, they have just been pro beating good teams. Since SEC West teams have more opportunities than most teams to do that, we have had teams do well in the COmmittee's rankings. Hopefully they won't think the mid tier SEC west teams that beat top Big 10 and Big 12 teams suddenly suck because they are losing to good SEC teams.