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msstate7
11-14-2014, 04:15 PM
Who will be there?

TheRef
11-14-2014, 05:14 PM
I'll be there in my Rowdies shirt.

msstate7
11-14-2014, 05:46 PM
I'll be there in my Rowdies shirt.
We can always count on you, ref. I won't be there. Just like to get someone's in person view of the team

WeWonItAll(Most)
11-14-2014, 05:53 PM
I'll be there

msstate7
11-14-2014, 06:06 PM
Will it be a decent crowd?

BulldogDX55
11-14-2014, 06:23 PM
I'll be there in my Rowdies shirt.

I see you.

Political Hack
11-14-2014, 06:24 PM
I'm the guy wearing maroon.

BulldogDX55
11-14-2014, 06:28 PM
The season has started off with a great omen: after the choir started singing the national anthem, the recording of it drowned them out for few seconds. Nice.

BulldogDX55
11-14-2014, 06:29 PM
I'm the guy wearing maroon.

Me too. I'm the one sitting next to the blonde.

dickiedawg
11-14-2014, 06:29 PM
On my way in now.
I'm the one with the restless 11 month old.

BulldogDX55
11-14-2014, 06:31 PM
The season has started off with a great omen: after the choir started singing the national anthem, the recording of it drowned them out for few seconds. Nice.

And the announcer mixed up the players names during intros

BulldogDX55
11-14-2014, 06:32 PM
On my way in now.
I'm the one with the restless 11 month old.

With this crowd, it'll sleep peacefully.

It_Could_Happen
11-14-2014, 06:40 PM
Nothing's changed. Still very bad on defense.

msstate7
11-14-2014, 06:40 PM
I realize its early and sword isn't playing, but damn...

BulldogDX55
11-14-2014, 06:40 PM
Down 16-10 at the first break. A 5'8" white dude embarrasse Fred on a layup

BulldogDX55
11-14-2014, 06:44 PM
Down 16-13 at the <12 break, only basket was a three by Fred

Political Hack
11-14-2014, 06:44 PM
Me too. I'm the one sitting next to the blonde.

can't be. that's me.

BulldogDX55
11-14-2014, 06:46 PM
can't be. that's me.

I am your split personality Hack. You invented me so you can still associate with MSU Athletics.

Political Hack
11-14-2014, 06:47 PM
I am your split personality Hack. You invented me so you can still associate with MSU Athletics.

first rule of fight club...

BulldogDX55
11-14-2014, 06:48 PM
first rule of fight club...

I am Jackie's total lack of ethics.

Political Hack
11-14-2014, 06:49 PM
I am Jackie's total lack of ethics.

I'm on the other end... defying and fighting institutions that I think have no ethics.

msstate7
11-14-2014, 06:50 PM
Nothing's changed. Still very bad on defense.

Article I read today said we spend all our practice time on defense. Not a confidence booster

It_Could_Happen
11-14-2014, 06:54 PM
Down goes Bloodman. Another day another injured guard.

BulldogDX55
11-14-2014, 06:55 PM
Dunlap can straight up hit the threes.

Brad Stevens
11-14-2014, 06:56 PM
Dunlap with 2 deep 3s already. Dawg61, where are you??

BulldogDX55
11-14-2014, 06:56 PM
21-20 @ < 8 mins.

msstate7
11-14-2014, 06:58 PM
Time to bury this team

Coach34
11-14-2014, 06:58 PM
Settle down boys. Let this team work even without our starting backcourt

BulldogDX55
11-14-2014, 07:09 PM
Up 26-24 @ < 4 mins.

msstate7
11-14-2014, 07:17 PM
This is not how I wanted to see us start this year. Please tell me Malik isn't watching this

BulldogDX55
11-14-2014, 07:18 PM
Up 31-30 at the half.

Coach34
11-14-2014, 07:23 PM
we're up at half missing 2 starters- what's wrong?

Irondawg
11-14-2014, 07:23 PM
I still say this is rays make or break year. Compete for the nit or sign Malik and he's safe. Anything else and he's on a very very got seat that is probably based on who we think we can actually land. We've cleaned house so the job is now just slightly unattractive vs toxic

BulldogDX55
11-14-2014, 07:27 PM
The half time "entertainment" with the busted remote controlled cars is hilarious.

msstate7
11-14-2014, 07:30 PM
we're up at half missing 2 starters- what's wrong?

Ray had sit starters right off the bat for no effort I suppose.

5 assists to 12 turnovers

Coach34
11-14-2014, 07:30 PM
Charleston Southern leads OM 18-8

Coach34
11-14-2014, 07:33 PM
Ray had sit starters right off the bat for no effort I suppose.

5 assists to 12 turnovers

Our 2 starting Guards are hurt and cant play...thus the high numbers of TO's. How can that not be expected without Ready and Chicken playing?

We are doing very well so far. Outrebounding them and holding them to 40% shooting

CadaverDawg
11-14-2014, 07:33 PM
I see you guys, do you see me? I'm shown below**...

http://knuckleballsblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/fanswearingbags.jpg

msstate7
11-14-2014, 07:35 PM
Charleston Southern leads OM 18-8

While this is hilarious, I'm concerned with our team right now

BulldogDX55
11-14-2014, 07:46 PM
Team woke up a bit at the half, up 45-38 at < 16 mins. WCU already has five fouls.

BulldogDX55
11-14-2014, 07:47 PM
We were up as much as ten, but that midget keeps hitting threes.

msstate7
11-14-2014, 07:49 PM
We were up as much as ten, but that midget keeps hitting threes.

Have we ever played a home game where someone doesn't drill 3's on us all night?

Coach34
11-14-2014, 07:53 PM
We are 13-16 from the line...that's outstanding

BulldogDX55
11-14-2014, 07:54 PM
Fell back asleep. Up 45-40 at < 12 mins.

Coach34
11-14-2014, 07:59 PM
Ole Missus down 29-17 at half to Charleston Southern
Tennessee and their awesome coach according to Dawg61 down 48-30 to VCU at half

BulldogDX55
11-14-2014, 08:04 PM
Up 50-45 @ < 8 mins.

chef dixon
11-14-2014, 08:21 PM
We may be dominating overall rebounding but they have actually been killing us on the offensive glass if you are watching the game. Frustrating that our guys have trouble getting a good grip on the ball.

starkvegasdawg
11-14-2014, 08:26 PM
Frustrating that our guys have trouble getting a good grip on the ball.
Wonder if Ray could hire Robert Kimdashian to come work with them. Based on his selfies he has no trouble maintaining a grip on balls.

Coach34
11-14-2014, 08:34 PM
Good 10 point win to start the season...Good job Dogs....and we get Chicken back for the next one

tcdog70
11-14-2014, 09:11 PM
We played pretty good D. Roq,Ware and Fred played really well. I'm looking for more out of Daniel.He doesn't look to be the best player on the team, as some have claimed.Houston and Dunlap both looked OK. we tried a trapping defense but it didn't seem to bother WC. When we get Chicken and Ready Back we will be a lot better. the jury is still out. but we are 1-0

TheRef
11-14-2014, 09:22 PM
Here's my recap from the game: http://maroonandwhitenation.com/2014/11/14/mississippi-state-opens-season-66-56-win-western-carolina/

Political Hack
11-14-2014, 09:38 PM
FT shooting = excellent
3-point shooting = excellent (really surprised here, kudos)
Ball control = piss poor. 12 TOs in a half at home against W. Car. is unacceptable.

TheRef
11-14-2014, 09:39 PM
FT shooting = excellent
3-point shooting = excellent (really surprised here, kudos)
Ball control = piss poor. 12 TOs in a half at home against W. Car. is unacceptable.

Granted, the second half was a lot better in the TO department with only 4 the whole half. But yes...the first half TOs were HORRID.

CadaverDawg
11-14-2014, 10:49 PM
Final score? (Was on a plane and missed it)

TheRef
11-14-2014, 10:51 PM
Final score? (Was on a plane and missed it)

66-56 MSU

TheRef
11-14-2014, 11:19 PM
Highlights with Ray Post-game overlay


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OJNhALS0bU

Dawg61
11-15-2014, 02:58 AM
Ole Missus down 29-17 at half to Charleston Southern
Tennessee and their awesome coach according to Dawg61 down 48-30 to VCU at half

Keep making excuses. We are terrible. Ware is the only player we have. Fred Thomas is officially a bust. He's a freak out machine. We are woefully young and we look it. Zero improvement from last year. And Ray gets a lot of the blame for no Sword no Ready. Inexcusable. Wake up C34 oh and I never hyped Tyndall as a great coach. I simply showed how he was able to add 8 players in 3 weeks. VCU btw would beat Western Carolina by 30.

msstate7
11-15-2014, 04:12 AM
Keep making excuses. We are terrible. Ware is the only player we have. Fred Thomas is officially a bust. He's a freak out machine. We are woefully young and we look it. Zero improvement from last year. And Ray gets a lot of the blame for no Sword no Ready. Inexcusable. Wake up C34 oh and I never hyped Tyndall as a great coach. I simply showed how he was able to add 8 players in 3 weeks. VCU btw would beat Western Carolina by 30.

Fred had 15 points and 6 rebounds.

engie
11-15-2014, 05:53 AM
Fred had 15 points and 6 rebounds.

And shot what he will average from 3 this year - 40%

dickiedawg
11-15-2014, 06:42 AM
Our team got a LOT bigger in the off-season. Depth is much improved- though we're starting off on the wrong foot with injuries.
Hopefully we can continue to kill it from the FT line.

msstate7
11-15-2014, 07:12 AM
And shot what he will average from 3 this year - 40%

And his best attribute is his defense. Not sure why 61 ripping Fred.

Brad Stevens
11-15-2014, 08:27 AM
I'm telling yall - I still think 61 is a troll that has done a masterful job of tricking us into thinking he is a righteously angry State fan. The only thing Fred did glaringly poorly is handle the ball, and that's because he doesn't have the skill set to play point guard but is forced to at this point (Ready hurt, Sword hurt, Davis transferred, and Bloodman can't play 40 minutes). When Fred is back in the 2/3 role and can focus on defense, he will do just fine.

Also, 61 didn't address his bashing of Dunlap (who led our newcomers in scoring). But it's too early to get in it with 61 on his lack of basketball knowledge - our football team is more than relevant in mid-November! I'm too hyped for this game today

DudyDawg
11-15-2014, 10:31 AM
Zero improvement from last year.

If you seriously think that, either A. you didn't watch the game or B. You're one of the stupidest people on earth. We looked like a JUCO team last year dressing 7 a night. Hell, you can tell how different we are just by watching our layup lines

Political Hack
11-15-2014, 10:38 AM
if we can make 3's and continue shoot that % from the free throw line, we will be much improved. We still look very sloppy at times, but if you're good at those two things it is an incredible equalizer. I'll hand it to Ray, he knows what he's working with and he looks to have trained his team accordingly. If they can't take care of the ball and physically dominate weaker teams, we damn well better be able to shoot the 3 and make everything we can get from the charity stripe.

less than stellar performance, but a W is a W.

Coach34
11-15-2014, 10:40 AM
Solid opener without Ready or Chicken imo. Chicken comes back now and we should handle the ball even better- along with getting our best slasher back. Support these guys and let's see what they can do

TheRef
11-15-2014, 10:41 AM
Ray knows what they need to improve on, he said as much in his press conference. He said that we need to work on ball control and defending the 3 much better. He also said that we need to flip our turnover and assist numbers so that we are close to a 2:1 assist-turnover ratio.

Dawg61
11-15-2014, 01:03 PM
And his best attribute is his defense. Not sure why 61 ripping Fred.

Just watch him on offense anytime he has to dribble or make a decision. It's a nonstop freak out. That's the best way I know how to describe what I see as Fred's biggest weakness. He spazzes out constantly anytime he has the ball on offense.

Political Hack
11-15-2014, 01:06 PM
Just watch him on offense anytime he has to dribble or make a decision. It's a nonstop freak out. That's the best way I know how to describe what I see as Fred's biggest weakness. He spazzes out constantly anytime he has the ball on offense.

agree. we're a team full of 3-men and 4-men, which is my biggest complaint. We don't have a single 2 or a true power 5 on our roster IMO.

maroonmania
11-15-2014, 01:16 PM
agree. we're a team full of 3-men and 4-men, which is my biggest complaint. We don't have a single 2 or a true power 5 on our roster IMO.

Saving the 2 spot for Newman. :)

Dawg61
11-15-2014, 01:23 PM
agree. we're a team full of 3-men and 4-men, which is my biggest complaint. We don't have a single 2 or a true power 5 on our roster IMO.

Yup. Bloodman made a couple decent feeds but we have major issues at the 1 and 2. Sword isn't a PG. Glass is but he's always hurt. So we have two guys. Bloodman and Glass in year 3. We have one player on this team. Gavin Ware. What's up with Daniels? Guy is a ghost on the court. We waited two years for that? That is disappointing. 2c

tcdog70
11-15-2014, 01:31 PM
Yup. Bloodman made a couple decent feeds but we have major issues at the 1 and 2. Sword isn't a PG. Glass is but he's always hurt. So we have two guys. Bloodman and Glass in year 3. We have one player on this team. Gavin Ware. What's up with Daniels? Guy is a ghost on the court. We waited two years for that? That is disappointing. 2c

61' I usually agree with most of your post. but Roq had a nice game and will be a steady player. Fred isn't a point guard, so that is on Ray not Fred. my main gripe is that Ray still doesn't have 1 sec quality point guard, and that will negate the expanded roster . If you don't have guards you are toast. I am disappointed in Daniel, you are correct so far he is Casper like. but I do see improvement.

msstate7
11-15-2014, 01:36 PM
We've played 1 game and it was without arguably our best player. Let's at least play 5 this season before we decide whether players are bust or not

Political Hack
11-15-2014, 01:41 PM
I think Ready can run the 1, but that's it. Sword has to run the 1 and 2 out of necessity. Should be a 3/role player but he has to be our playmaker instead.

Ware would be a beast at 4 if we had a true power 5, but we don't. We could run a 3-2 offense with Ready at 1, Chicken at 3, and Ware at the 4 and be a legitimate team... but we don't have that luxury. If Malik comes in, we only need another big and I think it's the Juco who is hurt. He's Hansbrough good... not as polished, but he's the same type of player. Can score with his back to the basket Can score with either hand. Him and Ware grinding down low would be sick with Malik at the 2. If that happens next year, we may have the biggest win% improvement in the power five from this year to next. This year is a wash...