Coach, what's your take on this?

[TUSK]

http://www.al.com/alabamafootball/index.ssf/2014/11/mississippi_state_will_do_what.html#incart_story_p ackage

you think it's coachspeak/misdirection, or is Collins gonna play it "straight up"?

[FlabLoser]

I'm completely sure our coaches print gameplans in newspapers.**

[TUSK]

I'm completely sure our coaches print gameplans in newspapers.**

that's kinda what I thought, Flab... I fully expect to see Cooper covered the F up.

[ShotgunDawg]

Coachspeak.

I do find it funny how the media continues to push the point that we have the worst pass defense in the SEC, yet we are #2 in the SEC in sacks, lead the SEC in passes defended, are #4 in INTS, and we lead the SEC in some completion percentage stuff. Point is, our pass defense is fine. Problem is, no one can run the ball on us and we have gotten big leads, and teams have had to throw the ball. Simply, we by far face more passes per game than any other team.

I love how the media and other teams continue to say we have pass defense problems without doing to the slightest bit of research to discover the issue.

[MSUMatt]

Coachspeak.

I do find it funny how the media continues to push the point that we have the worst pass defense in the SEC, yet we are #2 in the SEC in sacks, lead the SEC in passes defended, are #4 in INTS, and we lead the SEC in some completion percentage stuff. Point is, our pass defense is fine. Problem is, no one can run the ball on us and we have gotten big leads, and teams have had to throw the ball. Simply, we by far face more passes per game than any other team.

I love how the media and other teams continue to say we have pass defense problems without doing to the slightest bit of research to discover the issue.

Unless Collins plans on manning up a lot to generate pressure on Simms.

[Coach34]

ok- let me explain it....We dont have the worst pass D in the SEC. As a matter of fact, we are one of the top 5 Pass D's in the SEC

Our stats look like shit because we have had most games in hand early- so we played back-ups quite a bit who have given up some big plays in the passing game.

Talking heads mention UAB- UAB Scored 10 points on our 1st D
Talking heads mention Kentucky- Kentucky scored 10 points on our 1st D

Our staff decided to play the back-ups before the game was out of hand to get the younger guys better game experience. While it might make some of our stats look bad- it has helped this team immensely.

Scoring D? We are 5th in the SEC- and thats with playing the back-ups a ton
We are 2nd in the SEC in completion % allowed- better than Bama
We are 4th in the SEC in Picks- twice as many as Alabama
Teams average 44 attempts per game passing vs us- 12 more per game than Bama
Passes broken up and Passes defensed- we are far and away the SEC leader
Opponent 3rd down conversions- we are 3rd in the SEC- Bama is 8th
Opponent Red zone conversions- we are 1st- Bama is 7th
Tackles for loss- we are 4th in the SEC- Bama is 5th


There is a severe misconception about our defense out there- and people will realize this Saturday....Will Redmond is going to show Cooper he dont really give a **** who he is. And our front is going to force Sims into bad plays.

State by 10+

[I seen it dawg]

3 touchdowns

[TUSK]

while I think PD and sacks are (in part) a derivative of ATT, I agree with you 'Gun... this "Hundred and whatever" shit is stupid...

state's EFF is freakin' 115.... and that's good.

it's overblown, IMO.

[LC Dawg]

How fast is Cooper? I've seen it mentioned a few times about creating a mismatch with him and a LB and I was wondering how much of a mismatch that would be if the LB was Matt Wells.

[JDog13]

http://www.al.com/alabamafootball/index.ssf/2014/11/mississippi_state_will_do_what.html#incart_story_p ackage

you think it's coachspeak/misdirection, or is Collins gonna play it "straight up"?

My sources have told me we will start out with one cb on Cooper. If that doesn't work, and I'm saying 2 or 3 quick completions, they won't hesitate put Nick James on him.

[Coach34]

Cooper is an outstanding player and they will be coached to account for him on every play- but we arent going to double him

[ShotgunDawg]

ok- let me explain it....We dont have the worst pass D in the SEC. As a matter of fact, we are one of the top 5 Pass D's in the SEC

Our stats look like shit because we have had most games in hand early- so we played back-ups quite a bit who have given up some big plays in the passing game.

Talking heads mention UAB- UAB Scored 10 points on our 1st D
Talking heads mention Kentucky- Kentucky scored 10 points on our 1st D

Our staff decided to play the back-ups before the game was out of hand to get the younger guys better game experience. While it might make some of our stats look bad- it has helped this team immensely.

Scoring D? We are 5th in the SEC- and thats with playing the back-ups a ton
We are 2nd in the SEC in completion % allowed- better than Bama
We are 4th in the SEC in Picks- twice as many as Alabama
Teams average 44 attempts per game passing vs us- 12 more per game than Bama
Passes broken up and Passes defensed- we are far and away the SEC leader
Opponent 3rd down conversions- we are 3rd in the SEC- Bama is 8th
Opponent Red zone conversions- we are 1st- Bama is 7th
Tackles for loss- we are 4th in the SEC- Bama is 5th


There is a severe misconception about our defense out there- and people will realize this Saturday....Will Redmond is going to show Cooper he dont really give a **** who he is. And our front is going to force Sims into bad plays.

State by 10+

Coach, you should tweet these stats out to media. The bad perception here could hurt us with the playoff committee

Bo Bounds, ESPN Gameday, Bonner, etc

[Coach34]

Coach, you should tweet these stats out to media. The bad perception here could hurt us with the playoff committee

Bo Bounds, ESPN Gameday, Bonner, etc

Saturday's win will be all we need.

[maroonmania]

Cooper is an outstanding player and they will be coached to account for him on every play- but we arent going to double him

Not wild about that philosophy. We should account for EVERY receiver on every play. We should be doing a lot more than that on Cooper. We should try to force Bama to beat us with somebody else when you have ONE player dominating all the receiving stats like Cooper is for Bama.

[stalkingpoon]

We gonna let a 1B safety put his helmet on Coopers chin strap early and then he'll think twice about catching the ball.

[bulldawg28]

Add long add Redmond, Cox, and a pressing Calhoun are guarding Cooper we'll be fine. We can't play off man unless it's a long distance 1st down.

[TUSK]

ok- let me explain it....We dont have the worst pass D in the SEC. As a matter of fact, we are one of the top 5 Pass D's in the SEC

Our stats look like shit because we have had most games in hand early- so we played back-ups quite a bit who have given up some big plays in the passing game.

Talking heads mention UAB- UAB Scored 10 points on our 1st D
Talking heads mention Kentucky- Kentucky scored 10 points on our 1st D

Our staff decided to play the back-ups before the game was out of hand to get the younger guys better game experience. While it might make some of our stats look bad- it has helped this team immensely.

Scoring D? We are 5th in the SEC- and thats with playing the back-ups a ton
We are 2nd in the SEC in completion % allowed- better than Bama
We are 4th in the SEC in Picks- twice as many as Alabama
Teams average 44 attempts per game passing vs us- 12 more per game than Bama
Passes broken up and Passes defensed- we are far and away the SEC leader
Opponent 3rd down conversions- we are 3rd in the SEC- Bama is 8th
Opponent Red zone conversions- we are 1st- Bama is 7th
Tackles for loss- we are 4th in the SEC- Bama is 5th


There is a severe misconception about our defense out there- and people will realize this Saturday....Will Redmond is going to show Cooper he dont really give a **** who he is. And our front is going to force Sims into bad plays.

State by 10+

I wouldn't go as far as "SEC top 5", but it's certainly much better than what the "Talking Dead" are saying....

[codeDawg]

I think it's mostly the truth. Cooper is going to get his. Doubling him the whole game will just assure that others get theirs too. What we have to do is not let him run 40 more yards into the end zone. They can't throw to him every time, and he's going to drop some. Stopping the run and putting Sims on the ground or in trouble is what will give us the ball back.

[engie]

We're going to play alot of zone. That doesn't let us play matchups on Cooper. Sims struggles a helluva lot more with zone than he does with man. And no one is covering Amari in pure man coverage successfully. Would be ridiculous to try. That said, I fully expect us to show man looks through motion and back out to zone, show rush and drop 8, show zone and bring the house, etc... It'll probably be the first time we've really tried to confuse anyone since LSU. Especially with Sims' perceived failure of going through progressions and affinity to stare down Cooper at times...

[CadaverDawg]

As I said early this week, and Mullen said in his interview.....As long as we tackle Cooper and not let him get a ton of YAC, we don't necessarily have to double him. But if you don't tackle him immediately when he catches the ball, he'll kill you.

[bulldawg28]

We're going to play alot of zone. That doesn't let us play matchups on Cooper. Sims struggles a helluva lot more with zone than he does with man. And no one is covering Amari in pure man coverage successfully. Would be ridiculous to try. That said, I fully expect us to show man looks through motion and back out to zone, show rush and drop 8, show zone and bring the house, etc... It'll probably be the first time we've really tried to confuse anyone since LSU. Especially with Sims' perceived failure of going through progressions and affinity to stare down Cooper at times...

All of these are reasons you play man instead of zone. Copper knows how to read zones and will just find the open window and sit down. Man press to disrupt his routes with a safety lurking over the top is the way to go with zone mixed in.

[engie]

All of these are reasons you play man instead of zone. Copper knows how to read zones and will just find the open window and sit down. Man press to disrupt his routes with a safety lurking over the top is the way to go with zone mixed in.

Cooper has been stopped once this year. By a bracketed zone. Man press against him = a torched ass...

[TUSK]

How fast is Cooper? I've seen it mentioned a few times about creating a mismatch with him and a LB and I was wondering how much of a mismatch that would be if the LB was Matt Wells.

low to mid 4.3s per latest pro day...

"sub 4.4" would be accurate.

[FlabLoser]

Check our Cooper's YACs on this play. Tennessee had one LB out of position when Cooper came out of the backfield, and then he goes 80 yards.

http://www.al.com/alabamafootball/index.ssf/2014/10/watch_amari_cooper_go_80_yards.html

[TUSK]

Check our Cooper's YACs on this play. Tennessee had one LB out of position when Cooper came out of the backfield, and then he goes 80 yards.

http://www.al.com/alabamafootball/index.ssf/2014/10/watch_amari_cooper_go_80_yards.html

good choice Flab... I liked his UF game vs Vernon Hargreaves...

I was surprised that Sims had all that time to throw with Folwer bullrushing Cam...

[Political Hack]

How fast is Cooper? I've seen it mentioned a few times about creating a mismatch with him and a LB and I was wondering how much of a mismatch that would be if the LB was Matt Wells.

he's not faster than Wells, but Kiffin will run him across the formation away from Wells side.

[bulldawg28]

Cooper has been stopped once this year. By a bracketed zone. Man press against him = a torched ass...

Press with a safety over top is a form of bracketing.

[TUSK]

Coach, you should tweet these stats out to media. The bad perception here could hurt us with the playoff committee

Bo Bounds, ESPN Gameday, Bonner, etc

here ya go, Gun... when you see this, you'll see what Coach is talkin' bout....

MSU is "ranked" 123 nationally in pass defense... it's skewed when based TOTALLY on Pass Yards Allowed...

here's some hard per attempt data (these are SEC numbers only):

rank Name Rating
1 LSU 96.32
2 Mississippi 102.06
3 Alabama 107.13
4 Missouri 110.67
5 Georgia 113.47
6 Mississippi State 115.26
7 Kentucky 115.86
8 Florida 116.03
9 Tennessee 121.28
10 Auburn 125.3
11 Texas A&M 130.57
12 South Carolina 135.69
13 Arkansas 138.4
14 Vanderbilt 139.68

rank Name TD/Att
1 Mississippi 0.019
2 Missouri 0.026
3 LSU 0.026
4 Alabama 0.031
5 Mississippi State 0.035
6 Georgia 0.040
7 South Carolina 0.041
8 Florida 0.041
9 Tennessee 0.042
10 Texas A&M 0.043
11 Auburn 0.047
12 Vanderbilt 0.050
13 Kentucky 0.051
14 Arkansas 0.068

rank Name sacks/att
1 Texas A&M 0.10
2 Missouri 0.09
3 Tennessee 0.09
4 Mississippi State 0.08
5 Alabama 0.08
6 Georgia 0.08
7 Florida 0.08
8 Kentucky 0.07
9 Mississippi 0.06
10 Auburn 0.05
11 Vanderbilt 0.05
12 LSU 0.05
13 Arkansas 0.05
14 South Carolina 0.03

rank Name Int/Att
1 Mississippi 0.061
2 Auburn 0.044
3 Kentucky 0.042
4 Georgia 0.040
5 Tennessee 0.038
6 Florida 0.038
7 Missouri 0.032
8 Mississippi State 0.030
9 LSU 0.030
10 Arkansas 0.026
11 Alabama 0.020
12 South Carolina 0.017
13 Vanderbilt 0.013
14 Texas A&M 0.009

rank Name Yards/Att
1 LSU 5.4
2 Alabama 5.7
3 Mississippi 5.8
4 Missouri 6
5 Kentucky 6.1
6 Georgia 6.1
7 Florida 6.5
8 Mississippi State 6.8
9 Tennessee 7
10 Auburn 7.2
11 Texas A&M 7.2
12 South Carolina 7.3
13 Arkansas 7.7
14 Vanderbilt 7.7

[sandwolf]

How fast is Cooper? I've seen it mentioned a few times about creating a mismatch with him and a LB and I was wondering how much of a mismatch that would be if the LB was Matt Wells.

He is a mismatch for the best corners in the league, so it would be a huge mismatch against any LB.

[ShotgunDawg]

here ya go, Gun... when you see this, you'll see what Coach is talkin' bout....

MSU is "ranked" 123 nationally in pass defense... it's skewed when based TOTALLY on Pass Yards Allowed...

here's some hard per attempt data (these are SEC numbers only):

rank Name Rating
1 LSU 96.32
2 Mississippi 102.06
3 Alabama 107.13
4 Missouri 110.67
5 Georgia 113.47
6 Mississippi State 115.26
7 Kentucky 115.86
8 Florida 116.03
9 Tennessee 121.28
10 Auburn 125.3
11 Texas A&M 130.57
12 South Carolina 135.69
13 Arkansas 138.4
14 Vanderbilt 139.68

rank Name TD/Att
1 Mississippi 0.019
2 Missouri 0.026
3 LSU 0.026
4 Alabama 0.031
5 Mississippi State 0.035
6 Georgia 0.040
7 South Carolina 0.041
8 Florida 0.041
9 Tennessee 0.042
10 Texas A&M 0.043
11 Auburn 0.047
12 Vanderbilt 0.050
13 Kentucky 0.051
14 Arkansas 0.068

rank Name sacks/att
1 Texas A&M 0.10
2 Missouri 0.09
3 Tennessee 0.09
4 Mississippi State 0.08
5 Alabama 0.08
6 Georgia 0.08
7 Florida 0.08
8 Kentucky 0.07
9 Mississippi 0.06
10 Auburn 0.05
11 Vanderbilt 0.05
12 LSU 0.05
13 Arkansas 0.05
14 South Carolina 0.03

rank Name Int/Att
1 Mississippi 0.061
2 Auburn 0.044
3 Kentucky 0.042
4 Georgia 0.040
5 Tennessee 0.038
6 Florida 0.038
7 Missouri 0.032
8 Mississippi State 0.030
9 LSU 0.030
10 Arkansas 0.026
11 Alabama 0.020
12 South Carolina 0.017
13 Vanderbilt 0.013
14 Texas A&M 0.009

rank Name Yards/Att
1 LSU 5.4
2 Alabama 5.7
3 Mississippi 5.8
4 Missouri 6
5 Kentucky 6.1
6 Georgia 6.1
7 Florida 6.5
8 Mississippi State 6.8
9 Tennessee 7
10 Auburn 7.2
11 Texas A&M 7.2
12 South Carolina 7.3
13 Arkansas 7.7
14 Vanderbilt 7.7

Exactly, it's not a problem at all. Are we the best pass defense? no, but it's not a liability. It's pretty sound. For some reason the media doesn't do research

The media makes it sound like teams are just throwing rough shot all over our defense with little resistance. It just isn't that way

[messageboardsuperhero]

So basically, we have an average-to-slightly-above-average secondary by SEC standards when you run the numbers on a per attempt basis.

[TUSK]

Exactly, it's not a problem at all. Are we the best pass defense? no, but it's not a liability. It's pretty sound. For some reason the media doesn't do research

The media makes it sound like teams are just throwing rough shot all over our defense with little resistance. It just isn't that way

dude, I'm with ya... but yall don't need to try to cover him with Wells (alone), he can't...

throw Redmond in press, push, grab and hold, then come over the top with support.

oh, and rush 4-5 with run blitzes on occasion depending on D&D.

additionally, look out for #2 White and #88 Howard on short sideline passes.

[preachermatt83]

I honestly believe that we will get some picks with simms trying to force it to cooper. he is really good at finding cooper in man to man situations when he KNOWS who is covering cooper and from where ... but notice what Dan said... "We are going to be changing looks"... This will confuse the crap out of simms.. PICK CITY!

[TUSK]

So basically, we have an average-to-slightly-above-average secondary by SEC standards when you run the numbers on a per attempt basis.

sorry, I missed your post... that's correct.

But understand... a middle of the row SEC defense is still a kickass defense, nationally.

[CottonDog]

This game isnt about us matching up with Bama. It is about Bama matching up with us. Im glad our staff realizes that. They are watching the film, they know whats going on out there. Kiffin better figure out how to move the ball on us consistently with a hurt RB and a QB that couldnt hit the "brown side of a paper bag" as stingray from Tuscaloosa says. Whatca gonna do, brother? Whatcha gonna do?

[Maroon Blood]

As I said early this week, and Mullen said in his interview.....As long as we tackle Cooper and not let him get a ton of YAC, we don't necessarily have to double him. But if you don't tackle him immediately when he catches the ball, he'll kill you.

^^^This^^^

[GoToHellOleMiss]

This is the game plan....play zone....keep everything in front of us....make tackles....get pressure.



We're going to play alot of zone. That doesn't let us play matchups on Cooper. Sims struggles a helluva lot more with zone than he does with man. And no one is covering Amari in pure man coverage successfully. Would be ridiculous to try. That said, I fully expect us to show man looks through motion and back out to zone, show rush and drop 8, show zone and bring the house, etc... It'll probably be the first time we've really tried to confuse anyone since LSU. Especially with Sims' perceived failure of going through progressions and affinity to stare down Cooper at times...

[defiantdog]

Florida had a shit scheme against Bama..... You can't bull rush Bama. You have to trick their OL. I know a lot of you don't agree, but you'll see Matt Wells and Will Redmond in the backfield a lot. These two are our best off the edge. And with a hurt Yeldon, Bama will have trouble blocking either of them (Henry isn't the best in pass blocking). I think our goal is to get Simms to make quick, rash decisions that could easily go in our favor.

[steeldawg]

You bracket the shit out of cooper. You dare him to go somewhere else. That's my strategy. Simms is a one look qb. You take his look away and you pressure him to do something else. Heir entire offense is built around getting cooper the ball... The numbers show that. How is defense played? By taking away exactly what makes an offense work. In this case, it's the run, and Amari cooper. If they can find a way to beat us someway else, that's fine... Good for them... But no way in hell am I gonna let cooper and yeldon/Henry beat us. That's how id gameplan this.

[DudyDawg]

dude, I'm with ya... but yall don't need to try to cover him with Wells (alone), he can't...

throw Redmond in press, push, grab and hold, then come over the top with support.

oh, and rush 4-5 with run blitzes on occasion depending on D&D.

additionally, look out for #2 White and #88 Howard on short sideline passes.

I don't see Howard doing much. Bmac, Benni, and wells can all match him athletically. Most teams don't have a guy that can match up with a tight end like that. We have three

[I seen it dawg]

This game isn't about us stopping them. It's the fact they will not be able to stop us.

[bulldawg28]

This game isn't about us stopping them. It's the fact they will not be able to stop us.

I like this post

[maroonmania]

I honestly believe that we will get some picks with simms trying to force it to cooper. he is really good at finding cooper in man to man situations when he KNOWS who is covering cooper and from where ... but notice what Dan said... "We are going to be changing looks"... This will confuse the crap out of simms.. PICK CITY!

If our DBs can learn to catch. We dropped about 5 INTs against UT Martin last week.

[Pollodawg]

I don't know how sharp Sims is upstairs just from hearing him talk. Know what I mean?

Dak, on the other hand, is incredibly football savvy. I came away from SEC Filmroom very impressed.