Best QB and RB ever at MSU on the same team?

[Dawg61]

Dak yes but now an argument can start to be made that Josh Robinson is the best RB we've ever had too. Josh most certainly is top 5 all-time RB at MSU.

#1 Jerious Norwood
#2 Josh Robinson
#3 Anthony Dixon
#4 Vic Ballard
#5 Dicenzo Miller
#6 LaDarius Perkins
#7 JJ Johnson
#8 Christian Ducre
#9 Dontae Walker

[Joliet Jake]

You must not have been doing this very long to have a list with Perkins #6 and Ducre on it but no Keffer McGee or Michael Davis. Not to mention Walter Packer or Michael Haddix. Hell, Kevin Bouie was better than Ducre. Some of these guys put up good numbers despite not being quite as talented as others (Dicenzo is a prime example, was solid at everything but great at nothing he just wanted it more than anyone else) and others were great backs but weren't the complete backs that Jrob is (JJ who was a punishing runner, but didn't have the top end speed or shiftiness to break a ton of long runs like jrob has). With the way he is playing Jrob is clearly one of the best all-around back's we've ever had. He can get the hard yards, but also has the speed and quickness to make the ridiculous cuts and break the 50 and 60 yard runs.

[AROB44]

Why isn't Walter Packer on your list? He should be in the top 5 at least.

[MzTerry]

Dak yes but now an argument can start to be made that Josh Robinson is the best RB we've ever had too. Josh most certainly is top 5 all-time RB at MSU.

#1 Jerious Norwood
#2 Josh Robinson
#3 Anthony Dixon
#4 Vic Ballard
#5 Dicenzo Miller
#6 LaDarius Perkins
#7 JJ Johnson
#8 Christian Ducre
#9 Dontae Walker

Shorty McWilliams. bottom line.

[bulldogcountry1]

The Michael Davis/Kevin Bouie(?) combo was the truth.

[Dawg61]

Why isn't Walter Packer on your list? He should be in the top 5 at least.

I need the more seasoned crowd to give input on RB pre 1998

[FlabLoser]

DAVID FAIR!!

Huge man. Strong like an ox. Freakish speed to go with it. Blew out his knee early in his career.

[rolodawg]

Not as seasoned as some on here, but give me JJ as #1 from your list. Just for the simple fact that he punished Alabama for the two years he was here. He also averaged 1,303 yards and 12 tds those seasons.

ETA: Sure was a good time to be a student in the late 90's with all big 3 sports.

[West Houston Dog]

Michael Davis = stud
Michael Haddix=stud
Walter Packer....hellacious in the pitch/Veer...fast and elusive....but not powerful
Keffer..brief brilliant comet flash of talent until he blew out the knee I believe it was(soph year?). as impressive a MSU back I can remember tho it wasn't for very long.. Run Keffer Run and RIP ....

Love me some Josh but hard to surplant Dixon's body of work yardage wise. But damn glad Josh is a Bulldog!!!

And will always love Dicenzo....guy didn't have the greatest speed, but he had a will to get the ball and pound out yardage

[Dawg61]

Dicenzo also had the spin move down pat. He did the circle button move so many times on dudes.

[Maroonthirteen]

Michael Davis for sure. I remember he carried tacklers on his back at the start of his career. Bouie wasn't around long enough but he was good. Bouie and Davis running through the fog of the 1994 Egg Bowl was fun to watch.

[tcdog70]

just a few really good RB who played in the pros

Shorty Mc Williams--only MSU player to receive Heisman votes
Art Davis
Wayne Jones
Hoyle Granger-rushed for 1000 yds with the Oilers
Marcus Rhoden
Ode Burrell
Len Copeland

[THE Bruce Dickinson]

Dixon is too high on that list. He had a stand out senior year, but was pretty mediocre his first 3.

[JDog13]

Dixon is too high on that list. He had a stand out senior year, but was pretty mediocre his first 3.

Agree. Dixon's last year was outstanding. Croom Dixon was meh.

JJ probably #2 for me cause he ran so hard.

Jerious would have been lethal in Mullen's system. As it is, Jerious probably did more with less in my opinion. I'd put him at #1 for that.

[maroonmania]

The Michael Davis/Kevin Bouie(?) combo was the truth.

Yep the Sleepy Robinson/Michael Davis/Kevin Bouie combo was a great one for the short time it lasted. Too bad Sleepy got the knee injury.

[shoeless joe]

I love me some JJ and if he'd've had a decent hammy we woulda been in the sugar in 98. But think about what Norwood woulda done with the same O Line JJ had.

[chef dixon]

I love how there is not even a single objection to saying Dak is the best QB we've ever had. Its not even close.

Y'all that are saying Dixon only had 1 good year, give the guy a break with our offense/passing game during his first 3 years. The guy was a stud.

[Maroon Blood]

Need to be added/considered: Walter Packer (my top choice), Arthur Davis (The Honey Bee), Wayne Jones, Dennis Johnson, Hoyle Granger

[Dawg61]

Norwood would of been absolutely deadly in the screen game on this current roster. Imagine replacing Holloway with Norwood for sweeps and bubble screens. Unstoppable.

[Smitty]

Perkins over JJ Johnson???

[Todd4State]

I love me some JJ and if he'd've had a decent hammy we woulda been in the sugar in 98. But think about what Norwood woulda done with the same O Line JJ had.

That's the thing about JJ Johnson. He put up huge numbers, but he did it in essentially 3/4 of a season.

Jackie's offensive game plan was to pretty much have two big running backs- like Davis and Bouie, Dicenzo and Dontae, etc. But unfortunately the plan was for it to be JJ and Keefer in the late 90's.

There are bits and pieces of Jackie that I like more than others- and having the two big backs running behind a massive o-line is one of my favorites. I just wish we had been able to couple that with a more consistent and sophisticated passing game.

[Todd4State]

Perkins over JJ Johnson???

I know, right? I still feel bad for Perkins in that he was a good player who was misused for his junior and senior years. Even still, he shouldn't be ahead of JJ.

[maroonmania]

I love how there is not even a single objection to saying Dak is the best QB we've ever had. Its not even close.

Y'all that are saying Dixon only had 1 good year, give the guy a break with our offense/passing game during his first 3 years. The guy was a stud.

Dak is by far the best MSU QB I've ever seen (I go back to Bond) without question. The only QB that had the ability to have even challenged Dak was Don Smith but unfortunately Smith had no help around him and was pretty much a one man show during his time. If Smith had had other weapons around him where he couldn't be exclusively keyed on by defenses there is no telling what he could have accomplished.

[Pokerdawg44]

Keffer Mcgee, D Miller, Josh Robinson, J Norwood, JJ Johnson, Vic Ballard and Anthony Dixon are top in no particular order. Ducre and Perkins were great dawgs but not in discussion. M Davis and K Bouie were great combo and better than Perk and Ducre

[tcdog70]

don't forget that Rockey Felker was the SEC player of the Year. Felker at QB with Packer and Terry Vitrano was a hell of a backfield

[smootness]

#1 Jerious Norwood
#2 Josh Robinson
#3 Anthony Dixon
#4 Vic Ballard
#5 Dicenzo Miller
#6 LaDarius Perkins
#7 JJ Johnson
#8 Christian Ducre
#9 Dontae Walker

What. the heck. is this.

[Vandelaydawg]

Dak yes but now an argument can start to be made that Josh Robinson is the best RB we've ever had too. Josh most certainly is top 5 all-time RB at MSU.

#1 Jerious Norwood
#2 Josh Robinson
#3 Anthony Dixon
#4 Vic Ballard
#5 Dicenzo Miller
#6 LaDarius Perkins
#7 JJ Johnson
#8 Christian Ducre
#9 Dontae Walker

I would ask if you were 7, but I can guarndamntee ya mine of that age would offer a better assessment. Hell, my daughter could be considered equal only to get Jesus points with the Christian pick. For the love of the carpenter, please read more and post less.

[Homedawg]

I would ask if you were 7, but I can guarndamntee ya mine of that age would offer a better assessment. Hell, my daughter could be considered equal only to get Jesus points with the Christian pick. For the love of the carpenter, please read more and post less.

Leave him alone, he's a hoops specialist!****

[JDog13]

I'll say this about Ducre. There were plenty games when he came up big when Dixon wasn't doin it. His career wasn't spectacular, but he made big plays when we needed someone to.

[drunkernhelldawg]

don't forget that Rockey Felker was the SEC player of the Year. Felker at QB with Packer and Terry Vitrano was a hell of a backfield

Thanks for mentioning. That 1974 season is still for the ages.

[Coach34]

Hard for me to rank, but a top 5 would have to include:

Packer
JJ
Davis
JRob
Dixon

JRob has rushed for 1,745 on 273 carries...6.4 ypc for his career to this point. That is phenomenal

[JDog13]

Hard for me to rank, but a top 5 would have to include:

Packer
JJ
Davis
JRob
Dixon

JRob has rushed for 1,745 on 273 carries...6.4 ypc for his career to this point. That is phenomenal

wow that's crazy

[Coach34]

wow that's crazy

It really is...over 6.0 for a career would be insane if he can pull it off

[Dawg61]

Leave him alone, he's a hoops specialist!****

Here I am still living rent free in your head

[Homedawg]

Here I am still living rent free in your head

I knew it. You are will james twin brother. You both use the same stupid quote and are the worst 2 posters on the board...it's a too close to call though.

[Dawg61]

I knew it. You are will james twin brother. You both use the same stupid quote and are the worst 2 posters on the board...it's a too close to call though.

What's the common denominator in this situation? You.

[Pollodawg]

I'll say this about Ducre. There were plenty games when he came up big when Dixon wasn't doin it. His career wasn't spectacular, but he made big plays when we needed someone to.


Wasn't Ducre and Peguise pretty much the combo that won at Auburn in 2007? Didn't Peguise have 2 pick sixes and Ducre iced the game with a critical third down coversion? Maybe I'm foggy here.

[Homedawg]

What's the common denominator in this situation? You.

Yep. And two complete ****ing morons. U just had a call tell u his daughter could put together a better list, what does that tell you? I think that was a insult to your list but you're too damn stupid to get it. Don't quit posting though. The board needs a resident idiot w pioneer- will on sabbatical. You, my friend, are the idiot of which I speak.

[Dawg61]

I would ask if you were 7, but I can guarndamntee ya mine of that age would offer a better assessment. Hell, my daughter could be considered equal only to get Jesus points with the Christian pick. For the love of the carpenter, please read more and post less.

Put your list up then grandpa

[Dawg61]

U just had a call tell u his daughter could put together a better list, what does that tell you?

That you suck at grammar.

[JDog13]

I knew it. You are will james twin brother. You both use the same stupid quote and are the worst 2 posters on the board...it's a too close to call though.

I'm pretty sure 61 isn't the worst considering I post here.

[JDog13]

Wasn't Ducre and Peguise pretty much the combo that won at Auburn in 2007? Didn't Peguise have 2 pick sixes and Ducre iced the game with a critical third down coversion? Maybe I'm foggy here.

Ducre had a big 3rd down conversion when we needed it. It was 3rd and 9 or 3rd and 8. Don't really remember the game. He did it several times that year. Think he had a good one against Bama.

[FlabLoser]

Hard for me to rank, but a top 5 would have to include:

Packer
JJ
Davis
JRob
Dixon


I'm not sure where, but somewhere you have horribly misspelled "Norwood".

[drunkernhelldawg]

We've had a lot of great runners. I'm not real big on dubbing someone as the best ever while he's still playing. We've all seen Norwood, Ballard, Jrobb, and Dixon make incredible plays. I do remember that there was Heisman talk around David Fair back then, but we lost him about as soon as we got him. This seems to be the year when all of the promise will be fulfilled. Aren't we all on the edge of our seats, breathing in this rarefied #1 air? Feels good. A bit odd, but very very good.

[Todd4State]

Wasn't Ducre and Peguise pretty much the combo that won at Auburn in 2007? Didn't Peguise have 2 pick sixes and Ducre iced the game with a critical third down coversion? Maybe I'm foggy here.

And Rockey Felker's play calling.**

Pegues only had one pick six. We ran a couple of draw plays with Ducre and Auburn's defense acted like they had never seen a draw before. Bear in mind this was Wesley Carroll's debut pretty much and I think he threw maybe one pass the whole game because Henig got hurt and Croom didn't like Riddell. So they had to know that we were running.

[Smitty]

Another question is where does B-Mac rank among linebackers.. Second only to Cooks? Haggan, KJ, and Chaney are the others just off the top of my head and he certainly is comparable to those 3.

[Dawg61]

I would ask if you were 7, but I can guarndamntee ya mine of that age would offer a better assessment. Hell, my daughter could be considered equal only to get Jesus points with the Christian pick. For the love of the carpenter, please read more and post less.

Still waiting on your list grandpa or are you too busy watching Spongebob with your 7 year old granddaughter? Come on old man wake up.

[Homedawg]

Another question is where does B-Mac rank among linebackers.. Second only to Cooks? Haggan, KJ, and Chaney are the others just off the top of my head and he certainly is comparable to those 3.

I know this, Paul Lacoste making the all century team is laughable w all the lb's we've produced. Paul was good and is take him now but he's a few notches down on that list.
Eta, b mac is in the conversation for sure.

[Ralph]

The Michael Davis/Kevin Bouie(?) combo was the truth.

Yes it was.

[#660000]

Dak yes but now an argument can start to be made that Josh Robinson is the best RB we've ever had too. Josh most certainly is top 5 all-time RB at MSU.

#1 Jerious Norwood
#2 Josh Robinson
#3 Anthony Dixon
#4 Vic Ballard
#5 Dicenzo Miller
#6 LaDarius Perkins
#7 JJ Johnson
#8 Christian Ducre
#9 Dontae Walker

Nick Turner!*!*!

[smootness]

Another question is where does B-Mac rank among linebackers.. Second only to Cooks? Haggan, KJ, and Chaney are the others just off the top of my head and he certainly is comparable to those 3.

I'm not old enough to have seen Cooks, but I would definitely put him ahead of Chaney and probably KJ as well. I think he's pretty comparable to Haggan at State, but I would probably put McKinney ahead of him as well if I had to rank them.

[Maroonthirteen]

Y'all do realize Cook was the 2nd pick of the 1982 NFL draft? Although we had many very good ones,He has been the best LB so far.

[tcdog70]

Another question is where does B-Mac rank among linebackers.. Second only to Cooks? Haggan, KJ, and Chaney are the others just off the top of my head and he certainly is comparable to those 3.


the best two--Johnnie Cooks and DD Lewis with Ray Costic not far behind.. and if you want to go back to the Monsters of the Midway--then you have Joe Fortunato.

[BulldogBacker]

Dak yes but now an argument can start to be made that Josh Robinson is the best RB we've ever had too. Josh most certainly is top 5 all-time RB at MSU.

#1 Jerious Norwood
#2 Josh Robinson
#3 Anthony Dixon
#4 Vic Ballard
#5 Dicenzo Miller
#6 LaDarius Perkins
#7 JJ Johnson
#8 Christian Ducre
#9 Dontae Walker


Blondy Black
Shorty McWilliams
Hoyle Granger
Ode Burrell
Walter Packer
James Jones
Michael Haddix
George Wonsley
Clarence Harmon
Michael Davis
Kevin Bouie
Keffer McGee
J.J. Johnson
Dicenzo Miller
Jerious Norwood
Anthony Dixon
Ladarious Perkins
Josh Robinson

[WesternSkyDawg]

+1

[smootness]

Y'all do realize Cook was the 2nd pick of the 1982 NFL draft? Although we had many very good ones,He has been the best LB so far.

Yes. The only two mentions of him were Smitty putting McKinney behind him and me saying I didn't see him play, basically saying I can't put McKinney ahead of him.

I assume McKinney is not as good as Cooks. That said, if MLB were valued by the NFL the way it used to be, we would see McKinney way up the draft board.

[Coach34]

I had forgotten about Wonsley Backer...good job

[Coach34]

the best two--Johnnie Cooks and DD Lewis with Ray Costic not far behind.. and if you want to go back to the Monsters of the Midway--then you have Joe Fortunato.

McKinney has more talent than any LB'er we may have had- but he is not as good of a LB'er as DD or Cooks. Or Barrin Simpson. Johnnie Cooks had the wallet


http://badmofowallets.com/wallets/tan1.JPG

[Amadden0408]

If Norwood was a junior now, we wouldn't know who jrob is.

[BulldogBacker]

Blondy Black
Shorty McWilliams
Hoyle Granger
Ode Burrell
Walter Packer
James Jones
Michael Haddix
George Wonsley
Clarence Harmon
Michael Davis
Kevin Bouie
Keffer McGee
J.J. Johnson
Dicenzo Miller
Jerious Norwood
Anthony Dixon
Ladarious Perkins
Josh Robinson

Terry Vitrano probably should also be on this list.

[tcdog70]

Terry Vitrano probably should also be on this list.


Throw in Wayne Jones and you have them all.