PDA

View Full Version : I am amazed at how confident this board and MSU fans in general are for this game...



maroonmania
10-02-2014, 01:19 PM
I certainly hope the optimism is warranted after one good win over a team that didn't have much of a passing game. I still think that A&M is the worst matchup for us on our schedule because their offense does not play into the strength of our front 7. They would just as soon throw the ball 70 times than run it at all. I feel like IF we win this one the sky is the limit but I think this game is 50/50 at best. Hopefully the off week and more time for Collins and the D to prepare will pay off for us.

Eric Nies Grind Time
10-02-2014, 01:20 PM
I am not confident at all. I think they shred us with their passing game.

Miss. Stake
10-02-2014, 01:21 PM
I'm an eternal pessimist about about MSU sports (note my user name) but I think we win this game by 2 TD's. I think we have control in the 4th quarter. As the week goes on. I feel more and more confident. We have incredible leadership all over the field.

BulldogBear
10-02-2014, 01:24 PM
Most of this love is from one game over an unprepared and shown now to be uninspiring SC team. Secondly, the rest of it comes from Johnny Football. The media was ready to love TAMU and opening week gave them a reason. Smoke and Mirrors! We are THEIR worst nightmare for a matchup likewise. That's a two way street. Relentless pressure (worth an extra DB in an of itself already) on a TRUE FRESHMAN QB who runs more like TR (no offense intended, just making a comparison) than JFF. They'll score some but we'll score a whole lot more. We'll stop them several times. They'll stop us one or two times. 41-23

Goat Holder
10-02-2014, 01:25 PM
Probably because we dirt-rolled that "team that didn't have much of a passing game".

I don't think we win, but I'm not coming down on anyone that thinks we do. It'll be close. People thinking it won't be close are slobbing on that glass meth knob.

HoopsDawg
10-02-2014, 01:27 PM
A&M has the best passing offense in the conference, we have the worst passing defense in the conference. I am not confident at all. You are right, they can totally take away our front 4 by throwing quick, short passes all day. Sumlin is a hell of a coach.

Will Collins change the defense for this game? You can't run a 4-3 against these guys, but I don't think we will change much. I would put BMac at DE opposite P. Smith and run a 4-2-5. I think we need to put Love in as a slot corner and let Calhoun, Redmond, and Cleveland get physical with the outside WR's.

Miss. Stake
10-02-2014, 01:30 PM
Most of this love is from one game over an unprepared and shown now to be uninspiring SC team. Secondly, the rest of it comes from Johnny Football. The media was ready to love TAMU and opening week gave them a reason. Smoke and Mirrors! We are THEIR worst nightmare for a matchup likewise. That's a two way street. Relentless pressure (worth an extra DB in an of itself already) on a TRUE FRESHMAN QB who runs more like TR (no offense intended, just making a comparison) than JFF. They'll score some but we'll score a whole lot more. We'll stop them several times. They'll stop us one or two times. 41-23

Kenny Hill is a sophomore but I get what you're saying. They beat an overhyped USCe team and barely squeezed by an up-and-coming Arkansas team. This week we bring them back to reality. I like 41-28

confucius say
10-02-2014, 01:30 PM
I don't like the matchup. Wish we were playing Aub this weekend and aTm next. I think we would beat Auburn if we were playing them this weekend. But just feel like aTm is going to be too good offensively and I think their defense will slow our running game down just enough for them to win.

That said, we have that "it" factor about us that we have not had the last few years. No one can ever seem to define what "it" is, but my best guess is "it" is a combination of having true leaders who are great players at impact positions. We have that in Dak and BMac. For that reason, I have an internal fight occurring between my pessimistic attitude towards life and my hopeful view of what this season could become.

My conclusion - game is a toss-up; win the turnover battle and we win.

Miss. Stake
10-02-2014, 01:31 PM
I will be appalled if we have a 3 man front. You know what happened last time we ran a three man front against Texas A&M? 28-0 at the end of the first quarter. Trust in Collins, but we'll be rushing at least 4 every play.

engie
10-02-2014, 01:33 PM
You can't run a 4-3 against these guys, but I don't think we will change much.

Someone should inform Chavis of this -- since he's shut them down twice with it.

HoopsDawg
10-02-2014, 01:33 PM
I will be appalled if we have a 3 man front. You know what happened last time we ran a three man front against Texas A&M? 28-0 at the end of the first quarter. Trust in Collins, but we'll be rushing at least 4 every play.

I actually heard that Mullen told Chris Wilson to run that 3 man front. Hopefully, Mullen is sticking with the offense this week and leaving the defense to Collins. I would be watching LSU tape against A&M, they are the only team that has the formula. Of course they have had excellent DE's and DB's.

preachermatt83
10-02-2014, 01:35 PM
honestly, aTm scares me to death. There Offense is lethal and Defense is improved. everyone talks about our secondary. I don't think the secondary is necessarily where they hurt people. They find mismatches where linebackers are having to cover 10-15 yard routes and they eat them up like crazy. My hope is, that they can't do that to our LB's. Im nervous about it but still picking us 38-35. Like another poster said above, I wish we were playing Auburn this week and aTm next week.

maroonmania
10-02-2014, 01:36 PM
Not having Dillon Day concerns me as well. We are going to need EVERY offensive point we can come by. Beckwith has never started a game for us at Center and Clayborn hasn't played in weeks.

TrapGame
10-02-2014, 01:37 PM
A&M looked like shit for three quarters playing Arkansas. Arkansas ain't got the gas to finish big games yet. We do.

HoopsDawg
10-02-2014, 01:38 PM
Someone should inform Chavis of this -- since he's shut them down twice with it.

Yes, I just posted the same thing at the same time as you. 4 down linemen is the formula. I just don't want to see our LB's lined up against their slot guys. And LSU played press coverage on the outside. LSU's DE's were excellent. P. Smith and Bmac could play the role that Mingo and Montgomery played.

HoopsDawg
10-02-2014, 01:39 PM
A&M looked like shit for three quarters playing Arkansas. Arkansas ain't got the gas to finish big games yet. We do.

I actually would feel better about the game if A&M had looked sharp against Arkansas. A&M played their C game and still won. It's going to take a great effort in all 3 phases to win.

RougeDawg
10-02-2014, 01:46 PM
I actually would feel better about the game if A&M had looked sharp against Arkansas. A&M played their C game and still won. It's going to take a great effort in all 3 phases to win.

They played their C game? Or they finally played a physical team? I saw one of those and it wasn't C game.

DancingRabbit
10-02-2014, 01:47 PM
A&M has the best passing offense in the conference, we have the worst passing defense in the conference. I am not confident at all. You are right, they can totally take away our front 4 by throwing quick, short passes all day. Sumlin is a hell of a coach.

Will Collins change the defense for this game? You can't run a 4-3 against these guys, but I don't think we will change much. I would put BMac at DE opposite P. Smith and run a 4-2-5. I think we need to put Love in as a slot corner and let Calhoun, Redmond, and Cleveland get physical with the outside WR's.

We tackle well, which will negate those quick hits to a large extent. They're gonna wish somebody would take away our front 4.

We will give up some points. I think 35 max, and we will score more.

BLITZII
10-02-2014, 01:48 PM
I am sold on this team! I believe we have the talent and depth to win every game we play. Now the odds of that happening are very slim in the Mighty SEC West no doubt.

But those of you who think we get beat before we even kick-off are already defeated. Glad you are not playing on our team or a part of our staff.

Hell, I don't even want you on my sons 11y/o select baseball team!

Goat Holder
10-02-2014, 01:52 PM
A&M has the best passing offense in the conference, we have the worst passing defense in the conference. I am not confident at all. You are right, they can totally take away our front 4 by throwing quick, short passes all day. Sumlin is a hell of a coach.

Will Collins change the defense for this game? You can't run a 4-3 against these guys, but I don't think we will change much. I would put BMac at DE opposite P. Smith and run a 4-2-5. I think we need to put Love in as a slot corner and let Calhoun, Redmond, and Cleveland get physical with the outside WR's.

To be fair, it really was Manziel's escape-ability that doomed us more than the quote on quote passing game.

sleepy dawg
10-02-2014, 02:03 PM
I have 0 confidence. I have no clue who will win. I feel similar to how I felt going into LSU... and that is they are good, and we have all the potential in the world. If we live up to our potential, we can beat anyone.

defiantdog
10-02-2014, 02:06 PM
A&M has the best passing offense in the conference, we have the worst passing defense in the conference. I am not confident at all. You are right, they can totally take away our front 4 by throwing quick, short passes all day. Sumlin is a hell of a coach.

Will Collins change the defense for this game? You can't run a 4-3 against these guys, but I don't think we will change much. I would put BMac at DE opposite P. Smith and run a 4-2-5. I think we need to put Love in as a slot corner and let Calhoun, Redmond, and Cleveland get physical with the outside WR's.

Why does everyone assume we ONLY run a 4-3 defense? We run a 4-3 most of the time.... but we also run a 3-4, 4-2-5, and a 3-3-5 at times. There's a reason why P. Smith is moved to nose and C. Jones is moved to end on several occasions. We also have 5 dbs in at times. We are not Alabama. We don't run the same set defense every play. Go look at the LSU game. Go look how confused their oline got when we rushed 2 tackles and 2 lbs yet dropped back both of our ends into coverage.

BulldogDX55
10-02-2014, 02:08 PM
At first, when I looked at how we match up with A&M, I was worried because they run the Air Raid and our deep ball coverage has been a bit spotty.

However, after watching the Arkansas game, I remembered that the Air Raid is all about the SHORT passing game, not the long ball. We will have Wells and company all over that. We do great against the short ball. Remember how we defended Ole Miss last year? It will be like that. Constant pressure and blowing up screens. Our pass defense efficiency, that is, opposing QBs completion %, is actually really good, sitting somewhere around 50%. They will try to chuck it deep against us, but I've noticed that even on the most homerific of A&M boards (http://texags.com/forums/5/topics/2534980), they worry about Hill's touch on the deep ball.

It'll be a tough game, no doubt, but I think we come out on top. I'm far more worried about Amari Cooper and Kiffin's offense (using the run to set up play action deep balls) than I am an Air Raid scheme.

Miss. Stake
10-02-2014, 02:13 PM
Agree here. Our outside LB speed and defensive front are great match ups. I've watched 2 A&M games and Kenny Hill has not found the touch yet on the deep ball. Hope he doesn't discover it Saturday

thunderclap
10-02-2014, 02:21 PM
I think it's a tossup, and agree that if we win this one, watch out.

Coach34
10-02-2014, 02:25 PM
A&M has the best passing offense in the conference, we have the worst passing defense in the conference.


This is not even remotely true.

We give up more yards passing than anyone in the conference- BECAUSE TEAMS CANNOT RUN THE FOOTBALL ON US. Teams have thrown more passes against us than any other SEC team- which is another reason we have given up the most yards. I'll repeat- TEAMS CANNOT RUN THE BALL ON US- so they have to throw more often.

We are also 3rd in the SEC in pass defense completion percentage.
We are one of the leaders in interceptions.
We are one of the best in the nation in 3rd down stops

We have given up passing yardage vs our back-ups and when a game was out of hand. We win by 14 or more Saturday

We are the more complete offense
We have the better defense
We have had 2 weeks to prepare
We are at home

HoopsDawg
10-02-2014, 02:26 PM
I think it's a tossup, and agree that if we win this one, watch out.

That's why this game is so big. If we win this one, ohhh shit. Watch out!

mstatefan91
10-02-2014, 02:27 PM
Here's that good old Mississippi State pessimism I grew up around

Political Hack
10-02-2014, 02:29 PM
anyone complaining about this matchup is taking a myopic view to examining the game. Anyone looking at his comprehensively knows it's a better match up for us than for them... that's why the line immediately moved in our favor.

Coach34
10-02-2014, 02:32 PM
I have yet to have anybody explain to me how A&M- whose defense is worse than LSU's- is going to stop us?

HoopsDawg
10-02-2014, 02:33 PM
This is not even remotely true.



hmmm,


Name G Att Comp Pct. Yards Yards/Att TD Int Rating Att/G Yards/G
1 LSU 5 139 64 46.0 653 4.7 2 6 81.62 27.8 130.6
2 Mississippi 4 135 70 51.9 534 4.0 1 9 74.20 33.8 133.5
3 Kentucky 4 135 70 51.9 744 5.5 4 6 99.03 33.8 186.0
4 Alabama 4 129 69 53.5 753 5.8 2 2 104.54 32.3 188.3
5 Tennessee 4 129 76 58.9 789 6.1 4 5 112.77 32.3 197.3
6 Texas A&M 5 174 89 51.1 1098 6.3 6 2 113.23 34.8 219.6
7 Auburn 4 138 81 58.7 890 6.4 3 7 109.90 34.5 222.5
8 Georgia 4 140 84 60.0 927 6.6 7 3 127.83 35.0 231.8
9 Missouri 5 182 107 58.8 1182 6.5 3 5 113.30 36.4 236.4
10 Vanderbilt 5 173 114 65.9 1270 7.3 9 1 143.57 34.6 254.0
11 Arkansas 5 182 104 57.1 1319 7.2 12 4 135.37 36.4 263.8
12 South Carolina 5 187 119 63.6 1378 7.4 8 3 136.45 37.4 275.6
13 Florida 3 101 57 56.4 863 8.5 8 5 144.46 33.7 287.7
14 Mississippi State 4 167 84 50.3 1276 7.6 5 6 117.17 41.8 319.0

It looks pretty true. South Alabama had guys running wide open the whole first half. And quit saying against our backups, that's what Mullen does, he plays our backups. I have been pretty vocal on this board that I hate playing 5 safeties, but that's what we do.

HoopsDawg
10-02-2014, 02:35 PM
anyone complaining about this matchup is taking a myopic view to examining the game. Anyone looking at his comprehensively knows it's a better match up for us than for them... that's why the line immediately moved in our favor.

to use the point spread moving as an example is a joke. The public is wrong way more than it's right.

Jack Lambert
10-02-2014, 02:38 PM
Most of this love is from one game over an unprepared and shown now to be uninspiring SC team. Secondly, the rest of it comes from Johnny Football. The media was ready to love TAMU and opening week gave them a reason. Smoke and Mirrors! We are THEIR worst nightmare for a matchup likewise. That's a two way street. Relentless pressure (worth an extra DB in an of itself already) on a TRUE FRESHMAN QB who runs more like TR (no offense intended, just making a comparison) than JFF. They'll score some but we'll score a whole lot more. We'll stop them several times. They'll stop us one or two times. 41-23

Plus they did not look all that good in Dallas last week.

Coach34
10-02-2014, 02:41 PM
hmmm,


Name G Att Comp Pct. Yards Yards/Att TD Int Rating Att/G Yards/G
1 LSU 5 139 64 46.0 653 4.7 2 6 81.62 27.8 130.6
2 Mississippi 4 135 70 51.9 534 4.0 1 9 74.20 33.8 133.5
3 Kentucky 4 135 70 51.9 744 5.5 4 6 99.03 33.8 186.0
4 Alabama 4 129 69 53.5 753 5.8 2 2 104.54 32.3 188.3
5 Tennessee 4 129 76 58.9 789 6.1 4 5 112.77 32.3 197.3
6 Texas A&M 5 174 89 51.1 1098 6.3 6 2 113.23 34.8 219.6
7 Auburn 4 138 81 58.7 890 6.4 3 7 109.90 34.5 222.5
8 Georgia 4 140 84 60.0 927 6.6 7 3 127.83 35.0 231.8
9 Missouri 5 182 107 58.8 1182 6.5 3 5 113.30 36.4 236.4
10 Vanderbilt 5 173 114 65.9 1270 7.3 9 1 143.57 34.6 254.0
11 Arkansas 5 182 104 57.1 1319 7.2 12 4 135.37 36.4 263.8
12 South Carolina 5 187 119 63.6 1378 7.4 8 3 136.45 37.4 275.6
13 Florida 3 101 57 56.4 863 8.5 8 5 144.46 33.7 287.7
14 Mississippi State 4 167 84 50.3 1276 7.6 5 6 117.17 41.8 319.0

It looks pretty true. South Alabama had guys running wide open the whole first half. And quit saying against our backups, that's what Mullen does, he plays our backups. I have been pretty vocal on this board that I hate playing 5 safeties, but that's what we do.

Because we have given up the most yards does not mean we have the worst pass defense. Teams throw more against us than others because they cant run the ball at all.

Teams are throwing 42 passes per game against us. Next highest is 37 per game vs SC- which is padded by A&M throwing 60+ vs them

We are 2nd in the SEC in completion percentage allowed- that means teams have trouble completing passes vs us
We are 3rd in the SEC Interceptions- that means we are good at picking passes off
We lead the SEC in sacks per game- that means we have a good pass rush- which is part of having a good pass D
We 9th in the SEC in passer rating- not 14th

I could go on- but no need to. We are far from the worst in the SEC in pass D

Todd4State
10-02-2014, 02:42 PM
hmmm,


Name G Att Comp Pct. Yards Yards/Att TD Int Rating Att/G Yards/G
1 LSU 5 139 64 46.0 653 4.7 2 6 81.62 27.8 130.6
2 Mississippi 4 135 70 51.9 534 4.0 1 9 74.20 33.8 133.5
3 Kentucky 4 135 70 51.9 744 5.5 4 6 99.03 33.8 186.0
4 Alabama 4 129 69 53.5 753 5.8 2 2 104.54 32.3 188.3
5 Tennessee 4 129 76 58.9 789 6.1 4 5 112.77 32.3 197.3
6 Texas A&M 5 174 89 51.1 1098 6.3 6 2 113.23 34.8 219.6
7 Auburn 4 138 81 58.7 890 6.4 3 7 109.90 34.5 222.5
8 Georgia 4 140 84 60.0 927 6.6 7 3 127.83 35.0 231.8
9 Missouri 5 182 107 58.8 1182 6.5 3 5 113.30 36.4 236.4
10 Vanderbilt 5 173 114 65.9 1270 7.3 9 1 143.57 34.6 254.0
11 Arkansas 5 182 104 57.1 1319 7.2 12 4 135.37 36.4 263.8
12 South Carolina 5 187 119 63.6 1378 7.4 8 3 136.45 37.4 275.6
13 Florida 3 101 57 56.4 863 8.5 8 5 144.46 33.7 287.7
14 Mississippi State 4 167 84 50.3 1276 7.6 5 6 117.17 41.8 319.0

It looks pretty true. South Alabama had guys running wide open the whole first half. And quit saying against our backups, that's what Mullen does, he plays our backups. I have been pretty vocal on this board that I hate playing 5 safeties, but that's what we do.

I wonder what those numbers would look like without UAB's 3-4 big plays and LSU's last five minutes.

Look, what UAB did was an anomaly. They ran 3-4 plays that were low percentage and not only connected on each one- but they got TD's out of each one. That's not normal. Dan made a mistake putting in the back-ups against LSU. What happens if we don't take our foot off the pedal? I think we all know the answer to that.

You can say that South Alabama had guys running wide open, but the fact of the matter is part of the reason those passes weren't completed was because we had our front seven in their backfield all game long. It's hard to throw the ball around guys like Chris Jones.

Our secondary is not nearly as bad as people make it out to be. Calhoun and Redmond are probably going to get a chance to play pro football. Market and Hughes are both very solid. Cox will probably get a free agent invite to a NFL camp.

dawgs
10-02-2014, 02:44 PM
hmmm,


Name G Att Comp Pct. Yards Yards/Att TD Int Rating Att/G Yards/G
1 LSU 5 139 64 46.0 653 4.7 2 6 81.62 27.8 130.6
2 Mississippi 4 135 70 51.9 534 4.0 1 9 74.20 33.8 133.5
3 Kentucky 4 135 70 51.9 744 5.5 4 6 99.03 33.8 186.0
4 Alabama 4 129 69 53.5 753 5.8 2 2 104.54 32.3 188.3
5 Tennessee 4 129 76 58.9 789 6.1 4 5 112.77 32.3 197.3
6 Texas A&M 5 174 89 51.1 1098 6.3 6 2 113.23 34.8 219.6
7 Auburn 4 138 81 58.7 890 6.4 3 7 109.90 34.5 222.5
8 Georgia 4 140 84 60.0 927 6.6 7 3 127.83 35.0 231.8
9 Missouri 5 182 107 58.8 1182 6.5 3 5 113.30 36.4 236.4
10 Vanderbilt 5 173 114 65.9 1270 7.3 9 1 143.57 34.6 254.0
11 Arkansas 5 182 104 57.1 1319 7.2 12 4 135.37 36.4 263.8
12 South Carolina 5 187 119 63.6 1378 7.4 8 3 136.45 37.4 275.6
13 Florida 3 101 57 56.4 863 8.5 8 5 144.46 33.7 287.7
14 Mississippi State 4 167 84 50.3 1276 7.6 5 6 117.17 41.8 319.0

It looks pretty true. South Alabama had guys running wide open the whole first half. And quit saying against our backups, that's what Mullen does, he plays our backups. I have been pretty vocal on this board that I hate playing 5 safeties, but that's what we do.

The point is that teams throw it nearly 42 times/game against us. Next most is USCe at 37.4 passes per game. We are one of the top teams in opponent's completion %. We've given up some long TDs that we shouldn't, but that can be fixed. Not being able to cover (I.e. Giving up a higher completion %) would be a much bigger concern imo.

dawgs
10-02-2014, 02:45 PM
As for confidence, if we can't be confident this season about this team, then when can we be confident? I'm not declaring us west champs, but I'm sure not pessimistic about chances in the west or any given h2h matchup.

thf24
10-02-2014, 02:46 PM
hmmm,


Name G Att Comp Pct. Yards Yards/Att TD Int Rating Att/G Yards/G
1 LSU 5 139 64 46.0 653 4.7 2 6 81.62 27.8 130.6
2 Mississippi 4 135 70 51.9 534 4.0 1 9 74.20 33.8 133.5
3 Kentucky 4 135 70 51.9 744 5.5 4 6 99.03 33.8 186.0
4 Alabama 4 129 69 53.5 753 5.8 2 2 104.54 32.3 188.3
5 Tennessee 4 129 76 58.9 789 6.1 4 5 112.77 32.3 197.3
6 Texas A&M 5 174 89 51.1 1098 6.3 6 2 113.23 34.8 219.6
7 Auburn 4 138 81 58.7 890 6.4 3 7 109.90 34.5 222.5
8 Georgia 4 140 84 60.0 927 6.6 7 3 127.83 35.0 231.8
9 Missouri 5 182 107 58.8 1182 6.5 3 5 113.30 36.4 236.4
10 Vanderbilt 5 173 114 65.9 1270 7.3 9 1 143.57 34.6 254.0
11 Arkansas 5 182 104 57.1 1319 7.2 12 4 135.37 36.4 263.8
12 South Carolina 5 187 119 63.6 1378 7.4 8 3 136.45 37.4 275.6
13 Florida 3 101 57 56.4 863 8.5 8 5 144.46 33.7 287.7
14 Mississippi State 4 167 84 50.3 1276 7.6 5 6 117.17 41.8 319.0

It looks pretty true. South Alabama had guys running wide open the whole first half. And quit saying against our backups, that's what Mullen does, he plays our backups. I have been pretty vocal on this board that I hate playing 5 safeties, but that's what we do.

You're going by total yards, which is usually misleading for any stat. Look at our completion percentage allowed. Second lowest in the league according to your numbers. Not saying our pass defense is great, but it's far from the worst.

BLITZII
10-02-2014, 02:49 PM
That's why this game is so big. If we win this one, ohhh shit. Watch out!

Hoopsdawg...........your beat before you get your marbles out of the sack! Why do we play the games?

I am not saying this will not be a great game but I sure as hell ain't quittin before we start.

EAVdog
10-02-2014, 02:52 PM
We win by 2 touchdowns. Been saying it all week, not going to stop now. They scored 28 in regulation in Arkansas in a Neutral Site. They are going to play in StarkVegas with Cowbells ringing. We can score as much if not more on their Defense than we did against LSU.

42-28, Dogs.

HoopsDawg
10-02-2014, 02:55 PM
Because we have given up the most yards does not mean we have the worst pass defense. Teams throw more against us than others because they cant run the ball at all.

Teams are throwing 42 passes per game against us. Next highest is 37 per game vs SC- which is padded by A&M throwing 60+ vs them

We are 2nd in the SEC in completion percentage allowed- that means teams have trouble completing passes vs us
We are 3rd in the SEC Interceptions- that means we are good at picking passes off
We lead the SEC in sacks per game- that means we have a good pass rush- which is part of having a good pass D
We 9th in the SEC in passer rating- not 14th
P
I could go on- but no need to. We are far from the worst in the SEC in pass D

All your points are valid. But that doesn't change the fact that LSU had guys wide open and Jennings couldn't hit them. Or that I was at Mobile and their receivers couldn't catch shit. We may not have the worst pass d in the conference but it's still a big concern, at least to me.

BulldogBear
10-02-2014, 02:58 PM
Kenny Hill is a sophomore but I get what you're saying. They beat an overhyped USCe team and barely squeezed by an up-and-coming Arkansas team. This week we bring them back to reality. I like 41-28

Where in the world did I get the idea he was a freshman? My mistake, but I still hold to the gameplan and prediction!

defiantdog
10-02-2014, 02:59 PM
I have yet to have anybody explain to me how A&M- whose defense is worse than LSU's- is going to stop us?

I don't think you'll hear that argument from anyone. The question is.... can we stop their aerial attack?

defiantdog
10-02-2014, 03:01 PM
All your points are valid. But that doesn't change the fact that LSU had guys wide open and Jennings couldn't hit them. Or that I was at Mobile and their receivers couldn't catch shit. We may not have the worst pass d in the conference but it's still a big concern, at least to me.

You really underestimate the pass rush. Jennings was rushed nearly every passing down. Harris had a 2 man prevent rush against him.... I could sit back and throw against that.

Political Hack
10-02-2014, 03:04 PM
to use the point spread moving as an example is a joke. The public is wrong way more than it's right.

to assume the general public swings the lines on Monday is a joke. big money does that out the gate. the line is the easy way to view it, but it's more than that too.

thf24
10-02-2014, 03:05 PM
You really underestimate the pass rush. Jennings was rushed nearly every passing down. Harris had a 2 man prevent rush against him.... I could sit back and throw against that.

Exactly. I can't figure out why it's always assumed that the opposing QB was just missing passes because he's not very good in situations like this. It's because we were beating the shit out of him, just like we will beat the shit out of Hill. We'll see how he handles it.

HoopsDawg
10-02-2014, 03:18 PM
Exactly. I can't figure out why it's always assumed that the opposing QB was just missing passes because he's not very good in situations like this. It's because we were beating the shit out of him, just like we will beat the shit out of Hill. We'll see how he handles it.

A&M has maybe the best Oline in the country.

msstate7
10-02-2014, 03:21 PM
A&M has maybe the best Oline in the country.

Yet arkansas got pressure. Our front 7 is much better than ark.

thf24
10-02-2014, 03:23 PM
A&M has maybe the best Oline in the country.

LSU was supposed to have maybe the best Oline in the country too.

Coach34
10-02-2014, 03:24 PM
A&M has maybe the best Oline in the country.

Their OL is very good- no doubt

I seen it dawg
10-02-2014, 04:07 PM
Everybody is focused on the matchup of our def against their off. Wrong way to look at this game. We win this game with our offense. We have a tremendous advantage there. They will have a much harder time stopping us as we will them.

Political Hack
10-02-2014, 04:09 PM
Everybody is focused on the matchup of our def against their off. Wrong way to look at this game. We win this game with our offense. We have a tremendous advantage there. They will have a much harder time stopping us as we will them.

exactly

Advantage of State O vs A&M D > Advantage of A&M O vs State D

ShotgunDawg
10-02-2014, 04:20 PM
I'm very optimistic about this game. I'm not sure why people keep bringing up the game two years ago, when Collins had a very good gameplan against them last year. Our defense played fairly well against A&M in spots last year, and This year we have a better defense.

I'm with Coach, we give up more passing yards than anyone because it's literally all other teams can do against us. Our d-line will be in their back field most of the day, because Ark's was and our d-line is better than theirs.

You people who are scared about this game, either have a traditional "woo is me MSU attitude"or you aren't looking at the whole picture.

Even Barrett Sallee predicted MSU would "throttle" A&M.

Percho
10-02-2014, 04:21 PM
Two picks for State in this game, over, under?

I say over.

I seen it dawg
10-02-2014, 04:29 PM
I'm more worried about Bama laying a turd at 2:30 Saturday than I am us not handling our business. Dak will have our program focused and ready to beat ass on Saturday. This is the MSU program we have been waiting for people.

State82
10-02-2014, 04:46 PM
We are also 3rd in the SEC in pass defense completion percentage.


Which is good enough for 11th nationally.

TrapGame
10-02-2014, 05:10 PM
Russ Mitchell on H2H said the same thing C34 did about our secondary. We've had three times the pass attempts on our secondary then the next SEC team. He said if you take out the seven longest passes on us we are #2 in the SEC in pass defense and we still have been thrown on three times as much.

BrunswickDawg
10-02-2014, 05:18 PM
For the first time since 98 - 00 I feel like we can play with anyone. We have talent, we have coaching, and for once we are getting press. Everything is lining up for us to make some noise. After LSU, I will go into every game confident that we will win. It feels damn good to have that feeling again!

BulldogBear
10-02-2014, 05:18 PM
I have yet to have anybody explain to me how A&M- whose defense is worse than LSU's- is going to stop us?

This is what irritates me about the TAMU accolades, even the ones they got preseason. People went on and on about OFFENSE. That's not the problem. I believe they have a bend and then break defense!!

Smitty
10-02-2014, 05:39 PM
Huge rainbow currently ending at DWS like its the pot of gold! No lie. All signs are pointing to something special Saturday.

bluelightstar
10-02-2014, 05:53 PM
Drops are part of the game, but A&M's receivers seemed to be dropping easy passes and not making routine plays against the Hogs. Suspect they'll be a bit better at that this week.

BulldogBear
10-02-2014, 06:12 PM
Huge rainbow currently ending at DWS like its the pot of gold! No lie. All signs are pointing to something special Saturday.

or fantasy lol

TheRef
10-02-2014, 06:14 PM
or fantasy lol

http://bestof4chan.com/wp-content/uploads/is-this-real-life-or-is-this-just-fanta-sea.jpg

Dawgcentral
10-02-2014, 06:22 PM
I wonder if some folks aren't taking attitude into consideration, especially when it comes to our D line vs their O line. That locker room clip vs LSU is something to remember. This team is for real.

Summerlin has skills. Dude can manage that offense according to what's needed given any circumstance. But we're at home. The team won't be happy with anything other that the SEC West. Not saying they'll get there, but it's no longer about coming close and being satisfied.

Hit Hill as many times as possible. He can get off the slants and short stuff as long as we limit the YAC and punish receivers. They're going to get yards, but we'll harass him and get turnovers.

They haven't see what they're about to face in Starkville.