I'm hearing we are about to unveil a college baseball masterpiece

[Coach34]

Within the hour. I'm excited to see what they came up with

[TheRef]

OH MY GOD IT IS GLORIOUS!!!!!

http://www.hailstate.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=16800&ATCLID=209607983

http://image.cdnllnwnl.xosnetwork.com/pics33/640/JA/JADDZKRSWDEJMLJ.20140812175730.jpg

[messageboardsuperhero]

https://twitter.com/HailStateBB/status/499284173639909376/photo/1

AND IT IS BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!!

[RossDawg82]

is that a helicopter pad???

[C222]

Unreal.

[huffy]

un-freaking-believable... I think it's great.

[BulldogDX55]

This...this is more than I could have ever hoped for.

Brilliant.

All hail Janet Marie Smith.

[BeardoMSU]

OH MY GOD IT IS GLORIOUS!!!!!

http://www.hailstate.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=16800&ATCLID=209607983

http://image.cdnllnwnl.xosnetwork.com/pics33/640/JA/JADDZKRSWDEJMLJ.20140812175730.jpg


Ho..lee....chit.....
http://i.imgur.com/YnHG3gu.gif

[DudyDawg]

http://hailstatebeat.wordpress.com/2014/08/12/details-on-plans-for-msus-new-baseball-stadium/

Will likely be shuffling of rig location, but according to carskadon that kind of stuff is up in the air

[civildawg]

I have a few questions. Will the current LFL people automatically get a new LFL spot. How much are those condos going to run for?

[TheRef]

Bob's write-up of the stadium: http://hailstatebeat.wordpress.com/2014/08/12/details-on-plans-for-msus-new-baseball-stadium/

[rabbitthedawg]

Unfreaking believable! I don't know of a minor league park in the country that nice!!!

[messageboardsuperhero]

Anyone who thinks that is not incredible needs to have their head examined...

[BrunswickDawg]

http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc474/jimmyram70/Fred-sanford-heart-attack-o.gif

[Original48]

Speechless..
http://www.msubulldogclub.com/

[rbdog82]

I think we can safely say that Stricklin blew most peoples' expectations away with this.

[BrunswickDawg]

Anyone else notice that we have TM'd LFL? Somebody in marketing is on the ball...

[C222]

Anyone who thinks that is not incredible needs to have their head examined...

There will be someone that bitches. Wait for it.

[mparkerfd20]

http://www.msubulldogclub.com/ VIDEO... WOW!!!

[SheltonChoked]

.......

[BeardoMSU]

More pics.

http://hailstatebeat.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/8.jpg?w=640&h=360
http://hailstatebeat.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/5.jpg?w=640&h=360
http://hailstatebeat.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/4.jpg?w=640&h=360
http://hailstatebeat.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/2.jpg?w=640&h=360
http://hailstatebeat.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/7.jpg?w=640&h=360

[jumbo]

I need new pants

[TheRef]

My reaction:

http://anongallery.org/img/5313/south-park-randy-masturbation.jpg

[mparkerfd20]

You won't be able to see who's warming up in the bullpen from the pressbox? Sorry I got nothing to complain about.

[Maroonthirteen]

"The outfield suites will feature two bedrooms, a bath, kitchen and living space and will be available for use year-round"

Well, that settles it. If the old lady kicks me out, I know where my next place will be.

[HereComesTheSpiral]

The lounges are too damn organized, fire Stricklin now **

[TheRef]

The lounges are too damn organized, fire Stricklin now **

It's too beautiful!!!!******

[dickiedawg]

We'll sure, it's nice, but how will it look on a Tuesday in February when there are 600 folks at a game against Alcorn?

[bulldogcountry1]

by the beard of Zeus!

[War Machine Dawg]

http://i.imgur.com/zOVqcKz.gif

http://i.imgur.com/x8swEoW.gif

http://i.imgur.com/xHFRtju.gif

http://i.imgur.com/ywCs67G.gif

http://i.imgur.com/RSCcYCh.gif

[Bothrops]

I cant believe it. This is freaking unreal ........#$*#

[SheltonChoked]

That' just sick. I'm speechless. Just... Wow.

[State82]

Boys, I am completely speechless. There aren't words to even describe that masterpiece. Just unbelievable.

[TheRef]

I'm so ready to hear OM's response to this.....

Hell...LSU fans are even astounded by this and says that it can't get beat.

[gtowndawg]

OH MY GOD IT IS GLORIOUS!!!!!

http://www.hailstate.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=16800&ATCLID=209607983

http://image.cdnllnwnl.xosnetwork.com/pics33/640/JA/JADDZKRSWDEJMLJ.20140812175730.jpg

Way more than I dreamed.

[HereComesTheSpiral]

We'll sure, it's nice, but how will it look on a Tuesday in February when there are 600 folks at a game against Alcorn?

Like a Marlins home game

[starkvegasdawg]

Will the field be good for bunting?**

All kidding aside. That is unreal. I love the tribute to Wrigley with the outfield condos. Somebody cut a check for $20,000,000 to get this party started.

[PassInterference]

BOOM! Oh. My. Goodness.

You think they'll rename the stadium? Maybe somebody out there wants the best college baseball stadium in America named after them.

I mean really...this is not Polk Dement Stadium.

[starkvegasdawg]

BOOM! Oh. My. Goodness.

You think they'll rename the stadium? Maybe somebody out there wants the best college baseball stadium in America named after them.

I mean really...this is not Polk Dement Stadium.
Farm Bureau field at Bullock Toyota Stadium.

[TheRef]

I think Scott Stricklin just made the move of his tenure with this plan. Dear Lord is it beautiful.

[ShotgunDawg]

How in the hell will this only cost $40 million? The football expansion cost $80 million, and this appears to be no less of construction.

[War Machine Dawg]

BOOM! Oh. My. Goodness.

You think they'll rename the stadium? Maybe somebody out there wants the best college baseball stadium in America named after them.

I mean really...this is not Polk Dement Stadium.

Considering you can clearly see "Dudy Noble Field" clearly displayed above the entrance and etched into the facade, I'm guess that's a resounding "NO." That said, I'm sure there will be some form of corporate naming sponsorship for something. Just the way it is nowadays. Might as well stop being a ***** and deal with it.

[deltadawg99]

The Wier-Boerner architects did an awesome job designing this stadium.

Now if we are going to plug $40 million into this, we better win a national championship.

[Dawgbite]

JUST DAMN!!!!

[starkvegasdawg]

Did we win the press conference today?

[TheRef]

Did we win the press conference today?

We won the internets....all the internets.

[starkvegasdawg]

Huge selling point to recruits. Come here and you won't play in a stadium this nice until you get to the show.

[TheRef]

RF entryway will be a Ring of Honor type thing according to Cohen.

[gtowndawg]

How in the hell will this only cost $40 million? The football expansion cost $80 million, and this appears to be no less of construction.

It doesn't seem possible.

[Pokerdawg44]

OH MY GOD IT IS GLORIOUS!!!!!

http://www.hailstate.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=16800&ATCLID=209607983

http://image.cdnllnwnl.xosnetwork.com/pics33/640/JA/JADDZKRSWDEJMLJ.20140812175730.jpg

Wow this just isn't the same MSU I grew up with. Only question I have is how long construction will take and where will we play during construction.

[TheRef]

Wow this just isn't the same MSU I grew up with. Only question I have is how long construction will take and where will we play during construction.

Plans are to continue playing at DNF during construction. But plans can change.

[starkvegasdawg]

Wow this just isn't the same MSU I grew up with. Only question I have is how long construction will take and where will we play during construction.
Said we're playing at current Dudy. No idea how.

[Bullmutt]

I have to admit- this shit gives me 17'ing shivers!!!

[starkvegasdawg]

My reaction when I saw the picture.
Http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-_G777JJtwUs/TyHaeYfCcDI/AAAAAAAAApo/vjZeRGwQLQw/s1600/black-guy-gif-star-trek.gif

[codeDawg]

I am saving every penny I can find for one of those lofts.

[Dawg61]

I've never masturbated to a baseball field before today**

[ShotgunDawg]

It doesn't seem possible.

Completely agree. I'm stumped. Maybe it will be done in stages, and the first stage if $40 Million. What we are seeing in this video looks to be at least $80 - $100 million

The new stadium's grandstand is much less steep angled than the current. This is a compete rebuild, not a renovation.

Also, where will the team play while the grandstand construction is taking place?

[Dawg61]

I am saving every penny I can find for one of those lofts.

Yea are they seriously full-year long live in lofts/apartments and how do I get my name on the waiting list? How much are those going to cost too?

[AlSwearengen]

RF entryway will be a Ring of Honor type thing according to Cohen.

That is what I was hoping for. This is so ****ing awesome!! Recruits will line up.

[dawgs]

welp, might have to plan for a fall and a spring trip home when this is all said and done

[headcoach98]

My reaction:

http://anongallery.org/img/5313/south-park-randy-masturbation.jpg

I'm literally in tears clutching my stomach!

[messageboardsuperhero]

I think the lofts and suites are going to sell really fast. If you want one, you better let Scott know ASAP.

[643DP]

Kudos to Wier+Boerner architects...very talented young men and MSU grads. Some Janet Smith in there too....resembles Baltimore's Camden Yards which is one of MLB's best venues to watch a game. Stricklin hit a grand slam here. Great example of vision and passion. Very good and thorough process of listening to fans and Coach Cohen and not butchering the project for budget reasons....do it right the first time. This design will stand the test of time. Will not just be a game but will be an experience at every game. Outstanding job by all involved.

[rbdog82]

I don't know exact pricing for the lofts, but I know they wont be cheap. Also, I think they'll be available to lease...not outright purchase.

[BeachDawg]

We will win a NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP in the next few years. Bookmark it!

[headcoach98]

My reaction when I saw the picture.
Http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-_G777JJtwUs/TyHaeYfCcDI/AAAAAAAAApo/vjZeRGwQLQw/s1600/black-guy-gif-star-trek.gif

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[hailmari]

Oh man, I can't imagine the talent I could have invited over to watch the games if I had one of these lofts in college..

[elitedawgs]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKBzHm_GU6w

[Mjoelner34]

My reaction when I saw the picture.
Http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-_G777JJtwUs/TyHaeYfCcDI/AAAAAAAAApo/vjZeRGwQLQw/s1600/black-guy-gif-star-trek.gif

LOL I think a lot of us looked like that!

[Todd4State]

Said we're playing at current Dudy. No idea how.

I might be mistaken, but Trustmark Park was built in 10 months or so.

[Johnson85]

That looks impossible. What is the capacity of that stadium? It looks huge.

[State82]

I might be mistaken, but Trustmark Park was built in 10 months or so.

That's correct. And they started from a bare piece of ground that required significant excavation and construction of the actual playing surface. Obviously, we will have demolition work but that will go quickly.

[SignalToNoise]

How in the hell will this only cost $40 million? The football expansion cost $80 million, and this appears to be no less of construction.

A good friend of mine is employed as architect tells me the football expansion was "more complicated" and that's why it came with such a high price tag. He says the baseball stadium doesn't appear to be as complicated.

I'm sure we have some guys reading the board that can offer more insight.

[RougeDawg]

There will be someone that bitches. Wait for it.

It won't be me. That stadium is beyond awesome. Anybody got prices on the lofts?

[RougeDawg]

That looks impossible. What is the capacity of that stadium? It looks huge.

Wonder if lofts are even in the capacity? If they are year round access, they will most likely have an external entrance.

[PassInterference]

Let it be known, I totally called this LFL design.

http://www.elitedawgs.com/showthread.php?14724-Anybody-else-catch-Bounds-topic-for-discussion-this-morning&p=157865&viewfull=1#post157865


No entity in the USA should allow their customers to build their own structures. That is an open & shut lawsuit waiting to happen. That is an unfortunate fact. And another reason to hate Ole Miss (we drive tractors, they sue people).

The LFL needs to be and is going to be replaced with something permanent. I use the word "creativity" to imply MSU needs to allow the LFL to continue being the unique thing that it is today.

Homemade lumber structures is not what makes the LFL. It can be done with permanent structures. Something that still allows grilling, drinking, walking around, etc. And it can still be made unique and character-rich.

I predict MSU builds open air spaces with sections of chairbacks or bleachers (or both) in different configurations going around the outfield. It definitely won't be cookie-cutter from space to space around the outfield fence.

[sandwolf]

I don't know exact pricing for the lofts, but I know they wont be cheap. Also, I think they'll be available to lease...not outright purchase.

Someone on sixpack said that they had heard the lofts would be $40k-$50k per year.

Somebody was really on the ball with that idea......not only does it give people a bad ass venue to watch a baseball game, but it gives them a really convenient condo for football season. I will be really interested to hear what the price tag winds up being for those things.

[WinningIsRelentless]

A good friend of mine is employed as architect tells me the football expansion was "more complicated" and that's why it came with such a high price tag. He says the baseball stadium doesn't appear to be as complicated.

I'm sure we have some guys reading the board that can offer more insight.

A lot less concrete and steel in the baseball stadium compared to the football stadium. The footings on the football expansion probably ran 10MM plus. Now with that being said those numbers are probably arch estimates and you can add about 15 to 20 percent to est with the current numbers coming out at lettings now.

[ScoobaDawg]

just amazed..... It really is state of the art and no one can argue they will have a better college stadium
I still hate selfishly that LFL is changing because I still sit there when i come to town and have spent a lot of time out there on one rig and helped maintain it but I completely understand the safety issue and why it is being done. I only hope the price is not raised too high where a lot of the old timers who make that place special just give it up. And im well aware..if someone doesnt renew that site will be sold VERY quickly.

The Baseball shaped entrance is interesting and I like it will be ring of honor and the video shows a statue of someone so that will be interesting. I was always strongly in favor of an open air monument park or something else to dedicated to the history of our program besides just a banner on the back of the scoreboard or under the bleachers or such.

Its just a lot to take in...WOW.
I have spent so much time looking at and dissecting ideas and piecing together..im so glad to see a new stadium being built.
I love the home plate entrance also. they will have to move a lot of dirt and remove the hill behind Home plate entrance and the hump and the Palmerio parking to make it flat like seen in the video.

Time for some MLB players to step up along with a few big donors and lets break ground as soon as we head to OMAHA next season.

[TheRef]

The bears are already saying that we copied Swayze with the design on twitter...I love the delusion. Soak it up, bears. You're going to have to deal with the fact that not only will you not have the best Football stadium in the state, but you won't have anywhere close to the best baseball stadium in the state.

[starkvegasdawg]

Let it be known, I totally called this LFL design.

http://www.elitedawgs.com/showthread.php?14724-Anybody-else-catch-Bounds-topic-for-discussion-this-morning&p=157865&viewfull=1#post157865
You are hereby known as Karmac the magnificent.

[Esmerelda Villalobos]

Someone on sixpack said that they had heard the lofts would be $40k-$50k per year.

Somebody was really on the ball with that idea......not only does it give people a bad ass venue to watch a baseball game, but it gives them a really convenient condo for football season. I will be really interested to hear what the price tag winds up being for those things.

25k-30k per year

[State82]

A good friend of mine is employed as architect tells me the football expansion was "more complicated" and that's why it came with such a high price tag. He says the baseball stadium doesn't appear to be as complicated.

I'm sure we have some guys reading the board that can offer more insight.

Construction material will have a big impact on cost also. If they go with a structural steel frame as opposed to concrete it will move things along quicker. That is what Trustmark Park constructed of.

[messageboardsuperhero]

The bears are already saying that we copied Swayze with the design on twitter...I love the delusion. Soak it up, bears. You're going to have to deal with the fact that not only will you not have the best Football stadium in the state, but you won't have anywhere close to the best baseball stadium in the state.

Copied Swayze my ass. The Death Star (my new name for it) makes Swayze look like New Hope's ballpark.

[ScoobaDawg]

That looks impossible. What is the capacity of that stadium? It looks huge.

Per Bob...
Capacity figures are not yet available, but the new grandstand will hold more than the current one does and the outfield will hold “the same amount or more”. There will also be berm (hillside) areas down the far ends of the foul lines for families, groups or individuals. There will also be more significant areas for standing-room-only. Additionally, the facility will have a children’s area with slides, etc.


So what that means is the grandstand is larger and longer, but you lose the bleachers capacity and add berms You also add a TON of concourse room for standing room only. The outfield lounge space will hold roughly the same amount is planned. You also have standing room in between the two levels of the outfield terrace. Then you have the 25 LFL Lofts that have 10 seats on the porch it looks like so another 250 or more.

We should be able to hit 18k on a SBW saturday in the 2017 season (break ground june 2015, complete build over 2 seasons)

[maroonmania]

OK, so which one of you guys is going to fork over the 20 million so we can get this bad boy started??

[Todd4State]

The bears are already saying that we copied Swayze with the design on twitter...I love the delusion. Soak it up, bears. You're going to have to deal with the fact that not only will you not have the best Football stadium in the state, but you won't have anywhere close to the best baseball stadium in the state.

That stadium has nothing in common with Swayze Field.

I don't even understand that. Swayze isn't tiered. It has an outfield section- that they ripped off from us. And they don't have condos in the outfield. I could go on.

[Todd4State]

just amazed..... It really is state of the art and no one can argue they will have a better college stadium
I still hate selfishly that LFL is changing because I still sit there when i come to town and have spent a lot of time out there on one rig and helped maintain it but I completely understand the safety issue and why it is being done. I only hope the price is not raised too high where a lot of the old timers who make that place special just give it up. And im well aware..if someone doesnt renew that site will be sold VERY quickly.

The Baseball shaped entrance is interesting and I like it will be ring of honor and the video shows a statue of someone so that will be interesting. I was always strongly in favor of an open air monument park or something else to dedicated to the history of our program besides just a banner on the back of the scoreboard or under the bleachers or such.

Its just a lot to take in...WOW.
I have spent so much time looking at and dissecting ideas and piecing together..im so glad to see a new stadium being built.
I love the home plate entrance also. they will have to move a lot of dirt and remove the hill behind Home plate entrance and the hump and the Palmerio parking to make it flat like seen in the video.

Time for some MLB players to step up along with a few big donors and lets break ground as soon as we head to OMAHA next season.

The statue is going to be of me.**********************

[HereComesTheSpiral]

25k-30k per year

Anyone want to do a time share?

[Dawgface]

I'm not a huge baseball fan, but I will certainly go to some games in that nice stadium. I'm sure there are a lot of marginal bb fans who feel the same as I do.

[starkvegasdawg]

The bears are already saying that we copied Swayze with the design on twitter...I love the delusion. Soak it up, bears. You're going to have to deal with the fact that not only will you not have the best Football stadium in the state, but you won't have anywhere close to the best baseball stadium in the state.

They can suck my ass. I mean it. They can get down on their knees and toss my salad until they find a peanut. To even compare that shit box they play in to this design is not even laughable. It's great how jealous we have just made them. I hope they all cry themselves to sleep. After they suck my ass, of course.

[Coach34]

As I've said on here 10 times- one of the architects said it would be done in 2 phases- grandstand 1st in the offeseason...play the season...then the OF would be done the next offseason

that was the plan 8 months ago- so it could have changed by now of course

[DawgPoundtheRock]

Beautiful! Since I'm too lazy to read the press releases, does anybody know the dimensions of the field? It looks as big as DNF.

[Todd4State]

Beautiful! Since I'm too lazy to read the press releases, does anybody know the dimensions of the field? It looks as big as DNF.

I would imagine that they are the same as they currently are since it will be built on the same site.

That may be one of those things that comes up later if they need more room in the outfield for something- like they may have to bring in left field a little bit. It's probably best to keep the dimensions the same and then if something needs to be done. they can address it later.

[maroonmania]

I would imagine that they are the same as they currently are since it will be built on the same site.

That may be one of those things that comes up later if they need more room in the outfield for something- like they may have to bring in left field a little bit. It's probably best to keep the dimensions the same and then if something needs to be done. they can address it later.

Assuming the dead bats are here to stay I wish they would pull the fences in a tad during the construction. Would like to see the HR back in play at DNF. Right now its not much of a factor.

[ebdawg]

This stadium is just awesome. I have been sitting here and looking at the pictures for an hour and I just feel like i am dreaming. The renderings are just unbelieveable.

[War Machine Dawg]

They can suck my ass. I mean it. They can get down on their knees and toss my salad until they find a peanut. To even compare that shit box they play in to this design is not even laughable. It's great how jealous we have just made them. I hope they all cry themselves to sleep. After they suck my ass, of course.

ROTFLMAO!!!! Literally in tears!!! Well done, sir!

[War Machine Dawg]

Assuming the dead bats are here to stay I wish they would pull the fences in a tad during the construction. Would like to see the HR back in play at DNF. Right now its not much of a factor.

Totally agree. With dead bats here to stay, make it smaller and give the offense a fair chance. Because right now, it sucks watching us and hoping we can can win 1-0, 2-1 every night.

[smootness]

I have been a big supporter of Stricklin, and even I can't believe this. I knew it would be legit, but this makes a huge statement that we intend to be the premier baseball program in the country.

They basically asked what everyone wanted, found a way to put absolutely all of it in there, and also added some stuff that nobody would have ever thought of...loft apartments? Absolutely brilliant and completely out of left field.

[Todd4State]

Assuming the dead bats are here to stay I wish they would pull the fences in a tad during the construction. Would like to see the HR back in play at DNF. Right now its not much of a factor.

The bats are here to stay, but the ball will change. Let's see how that plays out before we start pulling fences in.

I know everyone loves home runs, including me. BUT I also love winning championships. I like the fact that Dudy-Noble plays like Trustmark Park, Hoover, and TD Ameritrade. That gives us an advantage when we go to those parks because we don't have to adjust as much or have it as a factor "getting into our heads". And no matter what changes they make to the bats and balls, as long as Dudy-Noble is the size it is now, it will play like the championship venues.

I do think that was a factor to helping us in Omaha- the Indiana game in particular.

[Todd4State]

Totally agree. With dead bats here to stay, make it smaller and give the offense a fair chance. Because right now, it sucks watching us and hoping we can can win 1-0, 2-1 every night.

We have to hit better with RISP. I believe we will do so this year. Most of our players had really good summers hitting wise, and that should carry over to this season.

And remember by giving our offense a chance by brining the fences in, you also give the other team the same chance.

[War Machine Dawg]

We have to hit better with RISP. I believe we will do so this year. Most of our players had really good summers hitting wise, and that should carry over to this season.

And remember by giving our offense a chance by brining the fences in, you also give the other team the same chance.

True enough, but I trust our pitching to do its job wayyyy more than I trust our offense to suddenly improve. We've pretty much sucked on offense Cohen's entire tenure outside of 3-4 players. It isn't all his fault, and I give him a total pass for years 1-2 as we had NO talent outside of Conner Powers. But the last 3 years are harder and harder to defend, so far as I'm concerned. For the offensive guru he's reputed to be, I've been very underwhelmed with that aspect of our team so far. Hopefully that's changing as we bring in better players, but you've got to admit it looks awful so far. And if you can't admit that, there's really no point in having further discussion about it.

[DawgPoundtheRock]

Next ignorant question: How many loft apartments are available? For the sake of argument, I'm assuming 30. If we average $25,000/year/unit that will generate $750,000/year. That money will go a long way toward the maintenance of DNF and DWS (or wherever they choose to spend it). Regardless, I think that building our facilities with the forethought of generating additional income is brilliant. Other schools have done it for years, mostly with skyboxes. Leasing apartments is a stroke of genius.

[Reason2succeed]

I may actually go to a baseball game now.***Wow!

[archdog]

It's great. It fundamentally changes the atmosphere. We may have to have a rfl now instead of a lfl due to the condos. Hell we can turn any patch of grass into something special with time.

[ScoobaDawg]

It's great. It fundamentally changes the atmosphere. We may have to have a rfl now instead of a lfl due to the condos. Hell we can turn any patch of grass into something special with time.

You do know we have always had a rfl as LFL has wrapped foul pole to foul for a long time. There will be more green bern room in Right Field behind the lounge now with them being permanent structures built closer to each other.

LFL will stay the same as long as the school truly allows the rig owners to help design their specific area to make it as close to the original rig as possible. then it becomes a concrete base with a safe top built on top. the big issue is how much the price is raised and how many originals stay.

[ScoobaDawg]

Totally agree. With dead bats here to stay, make it smaller and give the offense a fair chance. Because right now, it sucks watching us and hoping we can can win 1-0, 2-1 every night.

Yall do realize we JUST pulled in the LF fence last year or the year before? I dont forsee us doing it again. But that could happen based on how the new ball reacts in the current park setup. Thats a simple change before the stadium is finished.

[State82]

The bears are already saying that we copied Swayze with the design on twitter...I love the delusion. Soak it up, bears. You're going to have to deal with the fact that not only will you not have the best Football stadium in the state, but you won't have anywhere close to the best baseball stadium in the state.

Anyone that says that would obviously have little chance of out scoring Vince Young on the Wonderlic. That would be the most asinine statement ever made on a sports message board. And THAT is really saying something. That is like saying Cowboy Stadium designers copied M.M. Roberts Stadium. Idiots.

[KB21]

Words cannot describe what this stadium will be. Let's just say that with a facility like this, we should be able to get any player in the country we want.

[Smitty]

http://hailstatebeat.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/8.jpg?w=640&h=360

Anyone else notice the "Pesky's Pole" we have going down the RF line. Pretty neat feature there.

[hells bells]

OH MY GOD IT IS GLORIOUS!!!!!

http://www.hailstate.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=16800&ATCLID=209607983

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Just saw it. One word, Omaha has a major case of the Red Ass.

[ShotgunDawg]

Words cannot describe what this stadium will be. Let's just say that with a facility like this, we should be able to get any player in the country we want.

Except the ones that Vanderbilt offers. We could be playing in Yankee Stadium itself and not beat Vanderbilt on a recruit, due to their scholarship situation.

If you were an out of state recruit, would you rather pay out of state tuition with a 50% scholarship and play in Yankee Stadium, or would you rather just go to Vanderbilt for free?

The coaches can only do so much. College baseball has an inadequate scholarship structure and recruits will always choose free over pay.

[War Machine Dawg]

Yall do realize we JUST pulled in the LF fence last year or the year before? I dont forsee us doing it again. But that could happen based on how the new ball reacts in the current park setup. Thats a simple change before the stadium is finished.

Yes, I know. Look how much it helped.*** That said, I'd be surprised if the dimensions change much. I wish it would, but it probably won't. Cohen likes the fact that it's closer to the size of Omaha. And if Cohen wants it that way, he'll get it that way, as he should. But as much as I love baseball, it's frustrating as hell watching us and hoping we can keep the other team to 2 runs or less because we can't score more than 3 most nights.

[Dawg61]

Except the ones that Vanderbilt offers. We could be playing in Yankee Stadium itself and not beat Vanderbilt on a recruit, due to their scholarship situation.

If you were an out of state recruit, would you rather pay out of state tuition with a 50% scholarship and play in Yankee Stadium, or would you rather just go to Vanderbilt for free?

The coaches can only do so much. College baseball has an inadequate scholarship structure and recruits will always choose free over pay.

Guess your BearShark side is grumpy today. I am rooting for your Bulldog side to beat the BearShark side and say something positive about our new bad ass baseball palace. Don't let me down Bulldog side.

[Todd4State]

True enough, but I trust our pitching to do its job wayyyy more than I trust our offense to suddenly improve. We've pretty much sucked on offense Cohen's entire tenure outside of 3-4 players. It isn't all his fault, and I give him a total pass for years 1-2 as we had NO talent outside of Conner Powers. But the last 3 years are harder and harder to defend, so far as I'm concerned. For the offensive guru he's reputed to be, I've been very underwhelmed with that aspect of our team so far. Hopefully that's changing as we bring in better players, but you've got to admit it looks awful so far. And if you can't admit that, there's really no point in having further discussion about it.

It couldn't possibly be because offense in college baseball has decreased dramatically across the board the past three years? We finished in the top 5 in the SEC in hitting in 2013 (top 3 if I'm not mistaken, I didn't look), and this year we hit .275 as a team. Vanderbilt who won the NC hit .278 as a team. EVERYONE is looking awful compared to before the BBCOR bats. It's just that we notice what we do more because we don't follow the other 295 D-I teams.

And then you have the fact that the past three teams to win a NC were small ball teams- Arizona, UCLA, and now Vandy. The fact of the matter is bigger ballparks are a disadvantage to a team that has more power and less speed.

This gets talked about pretty much every college baseball game that is televised. Cohen has built us to do well in the postseason, and we have. Now that the baseball will get a little more livelier, we will add a little more power to compensate. So, why do something that would hurt us as far as winning championships so we can see some cheap home runs? That doesn't make any sense to me whatsoever.

Like I said, I like home runs, but the NCAA has made college baseball into what it is at the present. And we can either adapt and win or we can choose to try to fight the environment that's presented and then have some even bigger issues than any we have right now, and make it more difficult to win a championship.

And 3-4 players? Really? Gavin Collins, Nick Vickerson, Pirtle, Frazier, Jarrod Parks, Renfroe, CT...heck, Cohen made Sam freaking Frost a .302 hitter by the time he was a senior. That's a miracle.

[Todd4State]

Except the ones that Vanderbilt offers. We could be playing in Yankee Stadium itself and not beat Vanderbilt on a recruit, due to their scholarship situation.

If you were an out of state recruit, would you rather pay out of state tuition with a 50% scholarship and play in Yankee Stadium, or would you rather just go to Vanderbilt for free?

The coaches can only do so much. College baseball has an inadequate scholarship structure and recruits will always choose free over pay.

No doubt it's an inadequate scholarship structure, but some guys also want to play in front of people. We just have to find a way to pay the other 50% of the remaining scholarship with academic money.

As you said, Vandy spends most of their money on pitchers and then they go after minorities like Pedro Alvarez because they can get them in for free. Well, we have had pretty good success finding pitchers and there are a lot of caucasions that are pretty good baseball players.

[maroonmania]

True enough, but I trust our pitching to do its job wayyyy more than I trust our offense to suddenly improve. We've pretty much sucked on offense Cohen's entire tenure outside of 3-4 players. It isn't all his fault, and I give him a total pass for years 1-2 as we had NO talent outside of Conner Powers. But the last 3 years are harder and harder to defend, so far as I'm concerned. For the offensive guru he's reputed to be, I've been very underwhelmed with that aspect of our team so far. Hopefully that's changing as we bring in better players, but you've got to admit it looks awful so far. And if you can't admit that, there's really no point in having further discussion about it.

I agree in the sense that I don't see our pitching staff giving up a lot of HRs when we are on the road so I do think downsizing DNF would likely help us more than our opponent.

[War Machine Dawg]

It couldn't possibly be because offense in college baseball has decreased dramatically across the board the past three years? We finished in the top 5 in the SEC in hitting in 2013 (top 3 if I'm not mistaken, I didn't look), and this year we hit .275 as a team. Vanderbilt who won the NC hit .278 as a team. EVERYONE is looking awful compared to before the BBCOR bats. It's just that we notice what we do more because we don't follow the other 295 D-I teams.

And then you have the fact that the past three teams to win a NC were small ball teams- Arizona, UCLA, and now Vandy. The fact of the matter is bigger ballparks are a disadvantage to a team that has more power and less speed.

This gets talked about pretty much every college baseball game that is televised. Cohen has built us to do well in the postseason, and we have. Now that the baseball will get a little more livelier, we will add a little more power to compensate. So, why do something that would hurt us as far as winning championships so we can see some cheap home runs? That doesn't make any sense to me whatsoever.

Like I said, I like home runs, but the NCAA has made college baseball into what it is at the present. And we can either adapt and win or we can choose to try to fight the environment that's presented and then have some even bigger issues than any we have right now, and make it more difficult to win a championship.

And 3-4 players? Really? Gavin Collins, Nick Vickerson, Pirtle, Frazier, Jarrod Parks, Renfroe, CT...heck, Cohen made Sam freaking Frost a .302 hitter by the time he was a senior. That's a miracle.

You're using CT and Sam Frost to bolster your argument? Really? Might want to re-think that strategy. CT should've been a platoon player at best his SR year after being a FR AA. He regressed more than anyone not named Wes Rea.

I'll admit 3-4 was a bit of exaggeration/hyperbole to make my point. But overall, we haven't had a whole lot of solid hitters. And obviously offense is down across college baseball. Any idiot with a functioning brain understands that. The problem I have is there are plenty of other teams finding ways to score 4-6 runs consistently and we aren't. You can say "postseason, blah blah blah" all you want, but it doesn't change the facts. And the facts are, if you can't score in the regular season, you aren't playing in the postseason. And to be a supposed small ball team, we don't run nearly enough to maximize that style of play. Our idea of aggressive is a hit-and-run on a 3-1 count. It sucks, whether you can admit it or not. If you could just admit we have an offense problem, we'd be fine. Like I said, it could change as we continue to recruit better players like a Gavin Collins. But as of right now, it sucks knowing that we've gotta hold the opponent to 3 runs max to have a chance on most days.

[Todd4State]

You're using CT and Sam Frost to bolster your argument? Really? Might want to re-think that strategy. CT should've been a platoon player at best his SR year after being a FR AA. He regressed more than anyone not named Wes Rea.

I'll admit 3-4 was a bit of exaggeration/hyperbole to make my point. But overall, we haven't had a whole lot of solid hitters. And obviously offense is down across college baseball. Any idiot with a functioning brain understands that. The problem I have is there are plenty of other teams finding ways to score 4-6 runs consistently and we aren't. You can say "postseason, blah blah blah" all you want, but it doesn't change the facts. And the facts are, if you can't score in the regular season, you aren't playing in the postseason. And to be a supposed small ball team, we don't run nearly enough to maximize that style of play. Our idea of aggressive is a hit-and-run on a 3-1 count. It sucks, whether you can admit it or not. If you could just admit we have an offense problem, we'd be fine. Like I said, it could change as we continue to recruit better players like a Gavin Collins. But as of right now, it sucks knowing that we've gotta hold the opponent to 3 runs max to have a chance on most days.

Yes CT hit over .300 this year. I hope all of our platoon guys hit that well. And with the bolded part, what the heck are you talking about? We've been in the postseason the past four years, the CWS once, two SR's, and won the SEC Tournament despite our per you "awful" offense. The numbers aren't backing up what you are saying.

I did admit that we had a problem- and that was hitting with RISP. I just don't know if you can admit that we're not nearly as bad as you are making us sound.

The good news about holding the other team to three runs or less is the other team has pretty much the same issues and is hitting in the same environment we are. That's why we somehow miraculously keep winning despite our "bad" offense. Winning big four years in a row is not a fluke.

But to want to bring the fences in to manufacture some home runs for some "entertainment" at the expense of causing it to be more difficult to win a NC is not very smart and extremely short sighted. What's the difference between winning 2-1 with the fences now vs. 5-4?

I'd much rather the NCAA manufacture the entertainment with the baseball than us manufacture it by bringing the fences in, and I think that may be what we see this year across the board. At least I hope so.

[ShotgunDawg]

Guess your BearShark side is grumpy today. I am rooting for your Bulldog side to beat the BearShark side and say something positive about our new bad ass baseball palace. Don't let me down Bulldog side.

Haha, nicely put. I apologize if this was negative, but it is reality. However, this could/should certainly allow us to out recruit possibly every program in the country, except Vandy, on out of state players with good grades.

What we all need to hope for is that this "Power 5 autonomy" issue helps create more baseball scholarships. The more scholarships we get, the less of a competitive advantage Vandy has.

[War Machine Dawg]

Yes CT hit over .300 this year. I hope all of our platoon guys hit that well. And with the bolded part, what the heck are you talking about? We've been in the postseason the past four years, the CWS once, two SR's, and won the SEC Tournament despite our per you "awful" offense. The numbers aren't backing up what you are saying.

I did admit that we had a problem- and that was hitting with RISP. I just don't know if you can admit that we're not nearly as bad as you are making us sound.

The good news about holding the other team to three runs or less is the other team has pretty much the same issues and is hitting in the same environment we are. That's why we somehow miraculously keep winning despite our "bad" offense. Winning big four years in a row is not a fluke.

But to want to bring the fences in to manufacture some home runs for some "entertainment" at the expense of causing it to be more difficult to win a NC is not very smart and extremely short sighted. What's the difference between winning 2-1 with the fences now vs. 5-4?

I'd much rather the NCAA manufacture the entertainment with the baseball than us manufacture it by bringing the fences in, and I think that may be what we see this year across the board. At least I hope so.

Way to ignore that we suck at small ball and don't do the things necessary to maximize that style of play. CT barely hit .100 against LHP this past season. You said yourself back in March that screamed platoon player. But you tend to conveniently forget things that don't bolster your maroon glasses outlook for our offense. I'm done with this argument. If you think our only issue is hitting with RISP, you're pretty damn clueless.

[Mjoelner34]

My reaction when I saw the picture.
Http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-_G777JJtwUs/TyHaeYfCcDI/AAAAAAAAApo/vjZeRGwQLQw/s1600/black-guy-gif-star-trek.gif

I'm still laughing at this one.

[engie]

If I was so inclined, I would have an awful lot of thread bumping to do from the past 5 years across a bunch of sites...

Not tonight. Just going to enjoy it all. And look forward to being THE FRIGGIN JONES'S in something for a new generation.

Wait till this hits the SECNetwork. You just thought we were recruiting nationwide before...

[War Machine Dawg]

If I was so inclined, I would have an awful lot of thread bumping to do from the past 5 years across a bunch of sites...

Not tonight. Just going to enjoy it all. And look forward to being THE FRIGGIN JONES'S in something for a new generation.

Wait till this hits the SECNetwork. You just thought we were recruiting nationwide before...

Amen, engie. It is unquestionably a GREAT day to be a Bulldog!

[The Federalist Engineer]

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[PassInterference]

If I was so inclined, I would have an awful lot of thread bumping to do from the past 5 years across a bunch of sites...

Not tonight. Just going to enjoy it all. And look forward to being THE FRIGGIN JONES'S in something for a new generation.

Wait till this hits the SECNetwork. You just thought we were recruiting nationwide before...

I did take note of the main grandstands being parallel with foul lines.

[engie]

I did take note of the main grandstands being parallel with foul lines.

Allowing very good sightlines from a student berm in right and a parent berm(with playground directly behind) in left...

And the ability to bring the skyboxes and stands all the way to the poles in the future -- all with very good sightlines. Notice how the stands are basically modular. You rip out 2 brick walls on each side -- and you can bring them on down in a single offseason...

Strick also said that we're looking at 50 skyboxes overall as of today, but that number could easily increase prior to construction depending on demand. Personally, I'm thinking we will need closer to 70. Will need 30 in the main park and 40 apartments in left IMO

[Todd4State]

Way to ignore that we suck at small ball and don't do the things necessary to maximize that style of play. CT barely hit .100 against LHP this past season. You said yourself back in March that screamed platoon player. But you tend to conveniently forget things that don't bolster your maroon glasses outlook for our offense. I'm done with this argument. If you think our only issue is hitting with RISP, you're pretty damn clueless.

I've said several times that we need to steal more. I'm not saying our offense is perfect. What I AM saying is that bringing in the fences is not the way to fix anything and that we're not nearly as bad as you are attempting and failing to make it out to be. I am saying that we don't need to do anything until we know what the effects of the new baseball are going to be, and I would prefer to keep our ballpark similar in size to the ballparks that we have to play in for championships.

I guess using stats is "wearing maroon glasses" now? The guy hit .310 this past year and you're conveniently leaving out that the reason he "sucked" his sophomore and junior years was because he was hurt- which is also why he didn't run nearly as much as his potential. Hell, I'll tell you what- I'll leave out CT. What about the other players? Why not pick on Hunter Renfroe for awhile?**

You're also conveniently not touching several of the other facts I've put out there including the fact that small ball teams have won the last three CWS and that our team batting average was only three points lower than the NC or the fact that we were in the top five in 2013.

But yes, let's bring the fences in and hurt the strength of the team and make it more difficult for us to win in Omaha. But I'm the clueless one. Right.

[Dawg61]

Haha, nicely put. I apologize if this was negative, but it is reality. However, this could/should certainly allow us to out recruit possibly every program in the country, except Vandy, on out of state players with good grades.

What we all need to hope for is that this "Power 5 autonomy" issue helps create more baseball scholarships. The more scholarships we get, the less of a competitive advantage Vandy has.

Not everybody enjoys the snooty Vannnnnnnnnnnnnnderbilt attitude surrounding that school and MSU is dirt cheap anyways with zero scholarship reductions. Our new stadium looks like the sistine chapel compared to Vandy's sponge slipNslide.

[ShotgunDawg]

Not everybody enjoys the snooty Vannnnnnnnnnnnnnderbilt attitude surrounding that school and MSU is dirt cheap anyways with zero scholarship reductions. Our new stadium looks like the sistine chapel compared to Vandy's sponge slipNslide.

There's absolutely no doubt that MSU has better facilities and fan base. Every Vandy player would likely agree. The point is that Vandy's players don't pay a dime to play there, while, MSU's players have to pay at least some portion of their tuition

[Todd4State]

Am I the only one that thinks that the Lofts might lead to more home runs because they're going to block some of the wind that blows in from LF? It's at least three stories tall if not more. You hit a line drive that's just higher then the wall and not higher than the Loft, you would think it would fly right on out.

[Smitty]

Am I the only one that thinks that the Lofts might lead to more home runs because they're going to block some of the wind that blows in from LF? It's at least three stories tall if not more. You hit a line drive that's just higher then the wall and not higher than the Loft, you would think it would fly right on out.

That's a good point. I think you forget that we are changing the way we go about offense. All I've seen is that we are now getting a ton of power hitters right? The fences wot be brought in with this current group of upperclassmen. If we brought them in with all these big time bats that are coming it could help us out more than out opponents right? Kind of like how Cohen ran things in UK when he won the league and lost like twice at home.

[engie]

That's a good point. I think you forget that we are changing the way we go about offense. All I've seen is that we are now getting a ton of power hitters right? The fences wot be brought in with this current group of upperclassmen. If we brought them in with all these big time bats that are coming it could help us out more than out opponents right? Kind of like how Cohen ran things in UK when he won the league and lost like twice at home.

The balls are going to make a huge difference on the homerun too.

Todd makes a great point. The prevailing winds are always blowing in at Dudy Noble early in the season. Knock that wind out of the equation and the ball should fly out alot more even before it warms up....

[Todd4State]

That's a good point. I think you forget that we are changing the way we go about offense. All I've seen is that we are now getting a ton of power hitters right? The fences wot be brought in with this current group of upperclassmen. If we brought them in with all these big time bats that are coming it could help us out more than out opponents right? Kind of like how Cohen ran things in UK when he won the league and lost like twice at home.

We are changing, but we're also not totally going to go away from small ball either. We're going to have more power, but we will still have speed, and hopefully more than in the past.

Riley, Pickett, Gordon, Rooker, are all guys that have power.

Zinn, Alexander, Mangum, Blaylock, and Marrero are all guys that can run and bunt, etc. Stovall can run, but he also has some power. I could see Blaylock developing some power potentially. He only weighs 160 last year, but is 6'2".

We should have more balance like Cohen had at UK. They did hit more home runs, but that was a smaller park with livelier bats. They also stole a lot of bases, bunted, etc. too. They lost twice because they were a really good team.

That's why I wanted Cohen- because his teams could always do a lot of things, and I felt like that would translate well in Omaha.