I hope Mullen has finally figured this out himself

[Coach34]

@AschoffESPN (https://twitter.com/AschoffESPN): One thing I took from my time in Starkville: Josh Robinson is a grown man in every way

[messageboardsuperhero]

I know Mullen likes to be 50/50 between the run and pass- but I'd really like to see us more like 60/40 in favor of running this year. Hopefully we can get some early leads and pound people with J-Rob, Dak, Shumpert, Griffin, etc. this fall.

[Tbonewannabe]

Josh Robinson is as close to Ray Rice I have seen in college football. The guy is legit.

[RC3]

I'm tired of trying to open the run game up by establishing the pass first. Run first. Make the other team try to stop it. They won't be able to

[DawgPoundRock]

I heard he benches 380. If that is true good lord

[missouridawg]

Josh Robinson is as close to Ray Rice I have seen in college football. The guy is legit.

MJD.

[KB21]

I know Mullen likes to be 50/50 between the run and pass- but I'd really like to see us more like 60/40 in favor of running this year. Hopefully we can get some early leads and pound people with J-Rob, Dak, Shumpert, Griffin, etc. this fall.

All coaches say they like to be 50/50 when it comes to the pass vs the run, but there is no actual evidence that shows Mullen truly believes this. In 2007, the offense he called at Florida ran the ball 487 times. They passed it 361 times. So, they ran it about 57% of the time.

In 2008, they ran the ball 545 times and passed it 329 times. That was about 62% run.

2009 at MSU: 68% runs
2010 at MSU: 68% runs
2011 at MSU: 60% runs
2012 at MSU: 50% runs
2013 at MSU: 55% runs

What you saw in 2012 and 2013 was an adaptation he made because he had a drop back passer at quarterback. With Dak, I would be surprised if we run the ball less than 60% of the time.

[missouridawg]

All coaches say they like to be 50/50 when it comes to the pass vs the run, but there is no actual evidence that shows Mullen truly believes this. In 2007, the offense he called at Florida ran the ball 487 times. They passed it 361 times. So, they ran it about 57% of the time.

In 2008, they ran the ball 545 times and passed it 329 times. That was about 62% run.

2009 at MSU: 68% runs
2010 at MSU: 68% runs
2011 at MSU: 60% runs
2012 at MSU: 50% runs
2013 at MSU: 55% runs

What you saw in 2012 and 2013 was an adaptation he made because he had a drop back passer at quarterback. With Dak, I would be surprised if we run the ball less than 60% of the time.

And Dak and Jrob will be toting the rock more than 60% of our meaningful carries. Shump, Griffin, Holloway and a little Of Aeris will split the rest.

[messageboardsuperhero]

All coaches say they like to be 50/50 when it comes to the pass vs the run, but there is no actual evidence that shows Mullen truly believes this. In 2007, the offense he called at Florida ran the ball 487 times. They passed it 361 times. So, they ran it about 57% of the time.

In 2008, they ran the ball 545 times and passed it 329 times. That was about 62% run.

2009 at MSU: 68% runs
2010 at MSU: 68% runs
2011 at MSU: 60% runs
2012 at MSU: 50% runs
2013 at MSU: 55% runs

What you saw in 2012 and 2013 was an adaptation he made because he had a drop back passer at quarterback. With Dak, I would be surprised if we run the ball less than 60% of the time.

Good post. I guess the last couple of years when Russell was in the game have clouded my perception.

It seems like when Mullen has his ideal offenses, he's usually around 60% run.

[BeardoMSU]

Josh Robinson is as close to Ray Rice I have seen in college football. The guy is legit.


Hopefully not that close*****

http://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/ray-rice-dragging-fiancee-out-of-elevator.gif?w=1000

[thf24]

I know Mullen likes to be 50/50 between the run and pass- but I'd really like to see us more like 60/40 in favor of running this year. Hopefully we can get some early leads and pound people with J-Rob, Dak, Shumpert, Griffin, etc. this fall.

On the contrary to me. If Dak has gotten as good as throwing as the media claims, I hope we're 50/50 run/pass more than ever.

[War Machine Dawg]

@AschoffESPN (https://twitter.com/AschoffESPN): One thing I took from my time in Starkville: Josh Robinson is a grown man in every way

You and me both, Coach. Dude is a certified badass toting the rock.

[shoeless joe]

I hope that tweet means he has matured off the field. When it came to his lack of play last season he was his own worst enemy.

[Coach34]

On the contrary to me. If Dak has gotten as good as throwing as the media claims, I hope we're 50/50 run/pass more than ever.

This is a misnomer

If you are 50/50- it means you arent winning at the end of games and running the rock to kill the clock. We need to be 60/40 this year at worst to be successful. If we are running the ball effectively- then with our WR's and QB- we will get some huge plays in the passing game. Our passing game needs more huge plays than a higher number of passes

[engie]

My thing about our past numbers is -- we've never had a QB that can do both effectively under Mullen. So, Russell is probably skewed toward the pass while Relf is skewed toward the run. Truth probably lies somewhere in the middle. Plus, we've got playmakers at WR for really the first time...

I think the Tebow teams at UF are probably a better example... 361/487 pass/run, 329/545 pass/run, 364/555 pass/run... Which is actually more run-heavy than I really remembered...

[Coach34]

Go back and look at who led the SEC in rushing or is top 3 at worst and see how they ended up

2008- Fla led the SEC in rushing and win the NC
2009- Bama led the SEC in rushing and won the NC
2010- Auburn led the SEC in rushing and win the NC
2011- Bama led the SEC in rushing and LSU was 2nd- they played for the NC
2012- A&M led the SEC in rushing went 11-2 cause of no D. Bama was 2nd and won the NC
2013- Auburn led the SEC in rushing- played for NC

[thf24]

This is a misnomer

If you are 50/50- it means you arent winning at the end of games and running the rock to kill the clock. We need to be 60/40 this year at worst to be successful. If we are running the ball effectively- then with our WR's and QB- we will get some huge plays in the passing game. Our passing game needs more huge plays than a higher number of passes

Yeah, I agree with that. I guess what I really mean is being equally able and willing to run and pass, not necessarily run 1:1 passing and running plays.

[Martianlander]

Very interesting stats, but the main one I care about is more points on the scoreboard for MSU at the end of the game!

[Johnson85]

Our passing game needs more huge plays than a higher number of passes

^^^This^^^ All the run/pass mix stats are the wrong thing to look at. All that really matters is that the OC keep the DC guessing enough that they cannot cheat too much towards stopping what the OC wants to do. If you really wanted to look at a stat for this, I think you'd look at the average gain per passing play versus average gain per running play. Those should be fairly close if you have the ability to be balanced, with the average passing play being longer to account for the greater likelihood of a turnover.

And even then, that ignores that you may be perfectly happy to let the DC cheat a little more against the run if that means your passing plays will be much more likely to be scoring plays.

But if your average run play is longer than your ave. passing play in a game, then you are either dominating or you have some serious problems as far as balance, because that means you can't trust your passing game enough to keep the D remotely honest.