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Coach34
05-19-2013, 09:38 PM
cant say that I blame them. Perno had some success but was way too inconsistent, especially with the talent the state of Georgia has

Esmerelda Villalobos
05-19-2013, 09:50 PM
was that polks hand picked guy to follow?

WeWillScrewItUp
05-19-2013, 09:54 PM
And here comes Polk part 2 at UGA.

Will James
05-19-2013, 09:57 PM
With their in state talent and their state scholarship it should be criminal to suck at UGA. I don't know the story, why did Polk leave to come back here? His last season at UGA was dominant. And that's with inherited players. He could have been huge there with the players he could have assembled. His coaching style is awesome in my opinion as in the in game management. With good players you can't help but maximize win totals. Why come back here and on top of that slack off in recruiting?

Quaoarsking
05-19-2013, 09:57 PM
Season
Team
Overall
Conference
Standing
Postseason


Georgia Bulldogs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Bulldogs_baseball) (Southeastern Conference (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southeastern_Conference)) (2002-present)


2002
Georgia
32-29
15-15
3rd (East)
NCAA Regional (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_NCAA_Division_I_Baseball_Tournament)


2003
Georgia
29-26
10-20
5th (East)



2004
Georgia
45-23
19-11
1st (East)
College World Series (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_College_World_Series)


2005
Georgia
30-25
12-17
5th (East)



2006
Georgia
47-23
18-12
2nd (East)
College World Series (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_College_World_Series)


2007
Georgia
23-33
11-19
6th (East)



2008
Georgia
45-25-1
20-9-1
1st (East)
College World Series Runner-up (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_College_World_Series)


2009
Georgia
38-22
15-15
3rd (East)
NCAA Regional (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_NCAA_Division_I_Baseball_Tournament)


2010
Georgia
16-37
5-23
6th (East)



2011
Georgia
33-32
16-14
4th (East)
NCAA Regional (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_NCAA_Division_I_Baseball_Tournament)


2012
Georgia
31-26
14-15
5th (East)



2013
Georgia
21-32
7-20
7th (East)




Probably would have given him another year, since he always bounces back.

engie
05-19-2013, 10:07 PM
Season
Team
Overall
Conference
Standing
Postseason


Georgia Bulldogs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Bulldogs_baseball) (Southeastern Conference (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southeastern_Conference)) (2002-present)


2002
Georgia
32-29
15-15
3rd (East)
NCAA Regional (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_NCAA_Division_I_Baseball_Tournament)


2003
Georgia
29-26
10-20
5th (East)



2004
Georgia
45-23
19-11
1st (East)
College World Series (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_College_World_Series)


2005
Georgia
30-25
12-17
5th (East)



2006
Georgia
47-23
18-12
2nd (East)
College World Series (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_College_World_Series)


2007
Georgia
23-33
11-19
6th (East)



2008
Georgia
45-25-1
20-9-1
1st (East)
College World Series Runner-up (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_College_World_Series)


2009
Georgia
38-22
15-15
3rd (East)
NCAA Regional (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_NCAA_Division_I_Baseball_Tournament)


2010
Georgia
16-37
5-23
6th (East)



2011
Georgia
33-32
16-14
4th (East)
NCAA Regional (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_NCAA_Division_I_Baseball_Tournament)


2012
Georgia
31-26
14-15
5th (East)



2013
Georgia
21-32
7-20
7th (East)




Probably would have given him another year, since he always bounces back.

You serious?

It should be CRIMINAL to not absolutely dominate every single year at UGA. A 100 mile recruiting radius around that school that's effectively utilized = a baseball powerhouse like NO OTHER. There is THAT MUCH talent around that school that is mostly being squandered. The talent level around UGA makes LSU talent seem weak. Seriously. 3 CWS and 6 regionals in 12 years there = 9 years of incredible ineptitude with EVERY natural advantage at your disposal.

Personally, I'm scared to death of them getting serious about baseball and hiring the right coach. You just think Florida and Vandy have potential...

Will James
05-19-2013, 10:13 PM
You serious?

It should be CRIMINAL to not absolutely dominate every single year at UGA. A 100 mile recruiting radius around that school that's effectively utilized = a baseball powerhouse like NO OTHER. There is THAT MUCH talent around that school that is mostly being squandered. The talent level around UGA makes LSU talent seem weak. Seriously. 3 CWS and 6 regionals in 12 years there = 9 years of incredible ineptitude with EVERY natural advantage at your disposal.

Personally, I'm scared to death of them getting serious about baseball and hiring the right coach. You just think Florida and Vandy have potential...

If I could coach anywhere in the SEC it would be at MSU. But UGA is #2 with everyone else pretty far behind.

Homedawg
05-19-2013, 10:14 PM
was that polks hand picked guy to follow?

Yes and he basically told Dooley he had to hire him. Dooley didn't give a shot about baseball and did.

Will James
05-19-2013, 10:16 PM
In all honesty when speaking strictly on baseball success POTENTIAL alone we are down the list in the conference.

There is no excuse for most SEC teams to field bad teams. Think about it. Texas A&M should be badass. Alabama should too. UGA too.

Homedawg
05-19-2013, 10:31 PM
In all honesty when speaking strictly on baseball success POTENTIAL alone we are down the list in the conference.

There is no excuse for most SEC teams to field bad teams. Think about it. Texas A&M should be badass. Alabama should too. UGA too.
Bama does have a better base to recruit from, but they don't have extra scholarship money. That's put them in there with us, the rebs and auburn. Everyone else has no excuse.

Homedawg
05-19-2013, 10:34 PM
If I could coach anywhere in the SEC it would be at MSU. But UGA is #2 with everyone else pretty far behind.

I agree, to a point. I'd take ga as well. But not w the gap you have it at. Lsu doesn't have any comp recruiting, and has way more name recognition. Fla would be a close third. But I'm with you ga has no excuse not to be successful.....I'm on board w you Will when you make good points!

Will James
05-19-2013, 10:35 PM
Bama does have a better base to recruit from, but they don't have extra scholarship money. That's put them in there with us, the rebs and auburn. Everyone else has no excuse.

Yeah but Bama is BAMA

Homedawg
05-19-2013, 10:43 PM
Yeah but Bama is BAMA

This ain't football. They just don't care about anything else. Not like a florida does, where of you don't win it you get fired. You think pat McMahon would have been fired at Bama? No.

Will James
05-19-2013, 10:48 PM
IF Butch ends up at UGA.... then what?

Everyone's heard about "yes men" but I feel that we need a "No man" opposing Cohen in the dugout when goofy stuff start's popping up in JC's imagination. No evidence, but I bet Butch has put an axe to numerous ideas regarding game management.

Todd4State
05-20-2013, 02:36 AM
With their in state talent and their state scholarship it should be criminal to suck at UGA. I don't know the story, why did Polk leave to come back here? His last season at UGA was dominant. And that's with inherited players. He could have been huge there with the players he could have assembled. His coaching style is awesome in my opinion as in the in game management. With good players you can't help but maximize win totals. Why come back here and on top of that slack off in recruiting?

His coaching style was pretty much wait until our pitchers gave up seven runs and then take them out. He also didn't take advantage of many of our players strengths and fostered an atmosphere of excuse making instead of one of accountability. Polk is a great teacher of the game, but very average from a managerial standpoint. He tried to play Earl Weaver ball with guys that were just as punch and judy as any hitters we've had. It literally always took us three hits at least to score a run. Polk leaving a hurt Gene Morgan in probably cost us a National Championship- and there was really no reason to leave him in.

In my opinion, I would much rather Cohen do something crazy trying to win rather than be passive and just sit there and do nothing. Believe it or not- Cohen's management of the bullpen save for Friday is LIGHT YEARS better than Polk. Butch should get credit for that though. I would also say that Cohen is a much better in game manager as well. Sure, our fans notice when something goes awry, but there are also times when we do something and it works and it leads to us winning- we had a couple of key drag bunts this past week that went for hits that led to rallies for us. We put on a squeeze that won us a non-conference game earlier.

Believe me- give me that over- "I would rather lose a game 20-0 than 2-1" and his "that's baseball" excuse for practically anything that we didn't do well. One time I heard him blame one of out hitters striking out because someone was wearing a white shirt in the outfield.

Polk even when he was at Georgia still had a house in Starkville. Dooley talked him into coming over to Athens. When Polk came back, it was to retire and he basically used our program as a forum against the evils of the NCAA. As long as LT was around, there was no accountability for him. Polk was also really hard headed- he thought that we shouldn't offer a player until before their senior year and that we should recruit mainly from the camp. That's where the game "passed him by" so to speak. To me, he is almost as responsible for the rise of Ole Miss's program as Bianco is just from horrible recruiting.

I'm not sure that Polk would have recruited all that well at Georgia either. He did good with players he inherited like you said, but much like us- when he had "his" players the bottom eventually caved in.

Polk was also jealous of Skip Bertman. Instead of trying to imitate what was working- he actually did the total opposite of LSU. I think that's why he didn't bunt a lot to be honest with you because LSU while they had power, they were also a very aggressive baseball team. They were also very emotional- we were "classy" and tried to have really the total opposite image. Also, our 1979 team was very much a small ball team if there ever was one.

Todd4State
05-20-2013, 02:47 AM
IF Butch ends up at UGA.... then what?

Everyone's heard about "yes men" but I feel that we need a "No man" opposing Cohen in the dugout when goofy stuff start's popping up in JC's imagination. No evidence, but I bet Butch has put an axe to numerous ideas regarding game management.

I think Ole Miss has more to worry about than us in that regard from some rumors I've heard. There has been a rumor that they might go after Mike Bianco. It makes sense from the aspect of Ole Miss's relationship with Perfect Game which is in Georgia.

As far as Butch- if he leaves, then we hire someone else.

Butch controls the pitching staff. Some of those "goofy" ideas come from Butch- especially regarding the pitchers. Where do you think the idea of tandem rotations came from last year? Dual position guys pitching- not that it's totally Butch's idea, but he supports it.

As long as Cohen is around, it's likely always going to be- Cohen does hitting and strategy with the offense, the pitching coach does pitching, and then we have someone young that is a really good recruiter like Lane or Mingione.

Heck, it was Cohen that told Butch at Memphis that he had to get some other guys some work besides Ross. I saw him say it in the dugout.

Todd4State
05-20-2013, 02:49 AM
Yeah but Bama is BAMA

Yep. Which means that they don't give a shit about baseball. Baseball talent in Alabama is actually pretty comparable to Mississippi. They really don't produce that much more talent other than the fact they have more population.

Ronny
05-20-2013, 09:22 AM
Yep. Which means that they don't give a shit about baseball. Baseball talent in Alabama is actually pretty comparable to Mississippi. They really don't produce that much more talent other than the fact they have more population.

Bama produces better baseball talent than MS.

It's just that most of Bama's top baseball talent signs with Miss. State:

Bracewell
Norris
Sam Frost
Matt Britton
Girodo
Garner (future catcher)
Fitts

All from Alabama.

The state of Alabama is largely responsible for MSU having a decent pitching staff. Never thought I would ever say this in any context, but thank you Alabama for your contribution to Miss. State athletics.

Somebody said Alabama doesn't give a crap about baseball.

That's correct; because they seem unconcerned their top in-state talent keeps signing with Miss. State.

Will James
05-20-2013, 09:27 AM
Yep. Which means that they don't give a shit about baseball. Baseball talent in Alabama is actually pretty comparable to Mississippi. They really don't produce that much more talent other than the fact they have more population.

And my point was about POTENTIAL. Bama is throwing dollars towards a new stadium. Bama has been great in the not so distant past. Football brings in so much money they can't help but let it trickle down into baseball.

hometowndawg
05-20-2013, 09:39 AM
******* to Georgia

biscuit
05-20-2013, 12:22 PM
******* to Georgia

He's already turned them down.

Todd4State
05-20-2013, 12:30 PM
Bama produces better baseball talent than MS.

It's just that most of Bama's top baseball talent signs with Miss. State:

Bracewell
Norris
Sam Frost
Matt Britton
Girodo
Garner (future catcher)
Fitts

All from Alabama.

The state of Alabama is largely responsible for MSU having a decent pitching staff. Never thought I would ever say this in any context, but thank you Alabama for your contribution to Miss. State athletics.

Somebody said Alabama doesn't give a crap about baseball.

That's correct; because they seem unconcerned their top in-state talent keeps signing with Miss. State.


Like I said, they produce more because they have more population. Per capita, it's about the same.