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TheRef
07-17-2014, 11:00 AM
A Malaysian Airlines flight has just been reported as shot down over the Ukraine with a SAM missle. 228 people on board.

Bothrops
07-17-2014, 12:47 PM
Obama can't ignore this conflict anymore. Poor Malaysian Airlines

Dawg61
07-17-2014, 12:49 PM
Just read 295 total on board all dead. Shot down at 33,000 feet by Ukrainian military. Flight left Amsterdam headed to Malaysia and was shot down over Ukraine. 280 civilians and 15 crew members. wtf Ukraine

TheRef
07-17-2014, 01:03 PM
Just read 295 total on board all dead. Shot down at 33,000 feet by Ukrainian military. Flight left Amsterdam headed to Malaysia and was shot down over Ukraine. 280 civilians and 15 crew members. wtf Ukraine

Rumors circulating that they were Russian controlled SAM sites.

Political Hack
07-17-2014, 07:26 PM
Ukraine officials saying it was potentially terrorists.

TheRef
07-18-2014, 11:27 AM
ABC reporting shots fired by separatists who "secured the crash site".

War Machine Dawg
07-18-2014, 11:29 AM
Yep, looks like it's the Russians. Meanwhile, the Komandant-in-Chief is only concerned about Americans being on board and says it's a tragedy. A tragedy is a plane crashing due to mechanical failures or the like. This was an attack and should have been condemned.

FISHDAWG
07-18-2014, 11:31 AM
just confirmed - at least one American was on board

ETA - US / Dutch citizen

DownwardDawg
07-18-2014, 12:56 PM
Several Shell employees on board. I'm not sure what countries they were from, but there was Shell staff on board.

TheRef
07-18-2014, 01:47 PM
Several Shell employees on board. I'm not sure what countries they were from, but there was Shell staff on board.

One American on board.

Political Hack
07-18-2014, 01:56 PM
well, looks like y'all got your wish. Obama is taking a pretty firm stance and DEMANDING Russia stop military actions in Ukraine. Ready for a war?

Dawg61
07-18-2014, 03:44 PM
well, looks like y'all got your wish. Obama is taking a pretty firm stance and DEMANDING Russia stop military actions in Ukraine. Ready for a war?

Not with Russia, no thank you

Political Hack
07-18-2014, 07:24 PM
my thoughts too. push "separatists" out of Ukraine, but don't make this offensive. We're sort of locked in now.

War Machine Dawg
07-18-2014, 08:45 PM
my thoughts too. push "separatists" out of Ukraine, but don't make this offensive. We're sort of locked in now.

Gotta agree, no boots on the ground. Airstrikes and targeted drone attacks are the way to go, unless you've got a shot to take out the Russian leadership using a Spec Forces team. I'd be in favor of using those guys in a limited situation, provided the reward was big enough.

DownwardDawg
07-19-2014, 10:19 AM
One American on board.

Yeah, but several Shell employees. Shell is an overseas company. Main office in The Hague.