If soccer was everyday life.

[starkvegasdawg]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rvsuYssoTw0

[AlmostPositive]

Two billion people are sadly mistaken...soccer is just this side of unwatchable.

[mstatefan91]

Sigh

[curmudgeon]

One more day that we have to pretend to care about soccer.

[The Federalist Engineer]

Soccer has to be watched selectively, under what circumstance is watching CUSA or Big 10 football interesting? Unless you are an alumn there is no way to justify an Indiana vs Minnesota game. The most exiting soccer tournament is the u-20 World Cup because the kids and coaches are trying to get noticed and they get after it. The 2 billion fans don't follow the same teams each weekend, most watch the major leagues like EPL, but most follow their own local clubs and leagues.

Lastly, the ESPN announcers really suck. If you watch on Univision, it's like a totally different game. To be soccer fan, it helps to be multilingual. Soccer has Al Michaels, Keith Jackson's, and Vince Scully's that you will never hear on the c-grade ESPN broadcast.

[AlmostPositive]

Unless you are an alumn there is no way to justify an Indiana vs Minnesota game. The most exiting soccer tournament is the u-20 World Cup because the kids and coaches are trying to get noticed and they get after it.

Do they flop and fake injuries as much in the U-20 version? If so, I will selectively not watch that as well.

I understand Spanish, by the way, and somehow listening to Spanish play-by-play doesn't diminish the whining and fakery.

(I'm still looking for a soccer fan who isn't either defensive or arrogant or some mixture of the two.)

[TheRef]

Do they flop and fake injuries as much in the U-20 version? If so, I will selectively not watch that as well.

I understand Spanish, by the way, and somehow listening to Spanish play-by-play doesn't diminish the whining and fakery.

(I'm still looking for a soccer fan who isn't either defensive or arrogant or some mixture of the two.)

I enjoy watching it. I don't enjoy the flopping. I understand if you don't want to watch because of the flopping, that's perfectly fine. I don't like it, but I enjoy the strategy and pure skill needed to move the ball in a perfect uniform motion. I understand that it's not for everyone and I'm not going to try and convince you otherwise. To each their own, AP. To each their own.

[Dawgowar]

"I understand Spanish, by the way, and somehow listening to Spanish play-by-play doesn't diminish the whining and fakery. "

Bet you wouldn't say that if Larry Munson were calling the game.....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1hpaqo9tFM

[Dawg61]

Disagree about the ESPN WC announcers. I have enjoyed their coverage. Much better than watching an MLB game on ESPN with John Kruk and the other horribly boring announcers. ESPN has done very well as far as WC coverage and the announcers they hired imo.

[The Federalist Engineer]

I think soccer fans in the US are the worst fan base in all American sports, no argument from me. I sincerely hope FIFA adopts replay analysis of all penalties, cards, and offsides. With replay and cards for fakers, the diving would be eliminated from the game. Just like FIFA banned Suarez for months based on replay, they should ban divers for months. Other than FIFA being 10x more corrupt than Chicago democrats, I don't see why they would allow such an indignant strategy.

Its probably just me, but the typical soccer douche fan is like talking to an angry, agenda driven, unattractive lesbian woman. Notre Dame fans/groupies are about the same breed of cat.

[TheRef]

I think soccer fans in the US are the worst fan base in all American sports, no argument from me. I sincerely hope FIFA adopts replay analysis of all penalties, cards, and offsides. With replay and cards for fakers, the diving would be eliminated from the game. Just like FIFA banned Suarez for months based on replay, they should ban divers for months. Other than FIFA being 10x more corrupt than Chicago democrats, I don't see why they would allow such an indignant strategy.

Its probably just me, but the typical soccer douche fan is like talking to an angry, agenda driven, unattractive lesbian woman. Notre Dame fans/groupies are about the same breed of cat.

Sure am glad I'm not your stereotypical soccer fan, right?

[starkvegasdawg]

Never intended to reignite this debate with this post but as my mom always said, "Son, you shoulda known better'n think that." I just thought I found a video that made fun of the one thing that people that hated soccer and those that touch themselves when the World Cup is on tv agree on.

[The Federalist Engineer]

To each his own, but if you look at ratings you will see that Univision kills ESPN. Let's assume monolinguals don't have a choice in the matter, the fact that Univision is not basic cable and Spanish speakers watch ESPN for other sports and the champions league...you see that ESPN is an inferior product in soccer. ESPN needs to limit Lalas and the other fake soccer experts to US games and bring out stud horses for the rest. Looking at it through Bulldog lenses during broadcasts of our stuff, I would gladly switch my audio to bulldog radio or the old Jefferson Pilot crews than listen to most any ESPN crew.

[Dawgowar]

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Its probably just me, but the typical soccer douche fan is like talking to an angry, agenda driven, unattractive lesbian woman. Notre Dame fans/groupies are about the same breed of cat.[/QUOTE]

Most of the ones I know are pretty good people. I unapologetically follow the EPL and USMNT and am the furtherest thing from an angry, agenda driven lezbo you can get. In fact as a conservative I find that the leagues abroad employing actual free market based free agency a refreshing change to US sports leagues. They have become socialist models that breed mediocrity. Salary caps are crap.

The NFL and NCAA are rendering football a shell of the game it once was. When was the last time a real headhunter was celebrated on defense? The NFL is becoming the PC crowd's obedient little bitch. The NCAA is far more corrupt than FIFA. Please, Miami, Auburn, UNC....twenty years ago they would be staring down 4 years probation, two years no TV and no post-season by now.

Nobody who seriously follows soccer respects divers, even when someone on your team pulls it.

You don't like soccer, good for you.

Here - this will make you happy about cleaning up corruption - clubs leveraging FIFA, threatening no more support for the WC

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/worldcup2014/article-2690091/Lionel-Messi-Neymar-James-Rodriguez-Wayne-Rooney-barred-future-World-Cups-clubs-prepared-pull-plug-multi-million-pound-battle-FIFA.html

[Dawgowar]

To each his own, but if you look at ratings you will see that Univision kills ESPN. Let's assume monolinguals don't have a choice in the matter, the fact that Univision is not basic cable and Spanish speakers watch ESPN for other sports and the champions league...you see that ESPN is an inferior product in soccer. ESPN needs to limit Lalas and the other fake soccer experts to US games and bring out stud horses for the rest. Looking at it through Bulldog lenses during broadcasts of our stuff, I would gladly switch my audio to bulldog radio or the old Jefferson Pilot crews than listen to most any ESPN crew.

Shit, I'd take Ian Darke over Ellis at our games any day of the week.

Wish we had some better US talent than Lalas, but I like the ex-players they had. Some of them were among their generations' best. All that said I just wish Fox or NBC got the WC for the states. Either of them would do it infinitely better.

[The Federalist Engineer]

NCAA could give FIFA a run for the money on corruption, no doubt, but the NCAA and all the bag men got nothin on WC... Mussolini stole two cups in the 30s, Kurt Rothlisberger, battle of bern, Peru fix in 78, murderous ratin in 66, wembly goals, puskas bounty in 54, st Denis fix, Uruguay ejection scams prior to 70, pele bounty in 66, Eduardo codesal, Leonidas bounty, and I could go on...I have not even mentioned calicopoly in Italy and olimpique marseille in 93 that are soccer related but not FIFA managed

As a dog, Cam Scam, Jackson AAU bagmen, Sherrill being persecuted, and Swallowing hostess at Ole Miss are closer to home, but we at least have replay during our games now. I acknowledge you are correct about NFL socialist collusion and the Super Bowls sappy social engineering

[Dawgowar]

NCAA could give FIFA a run for the money on corruption, no doubt, but the NCAA and all the bag men got nothin on WC... Mussolini stole two cups in the 30s, Kurt Rothlisberger, battle of bern, Peru fix in 78, murderous ratin in 66, wembly goals, puskas bounty in 54, st Denis fix, Uruguay ejection scams prior to 70, pele bounty in 66, Eduardo codesal, Leonidas bounty, and I could go on...I have not even mentioned calicopoly in Italy and olimpique marseille in 93 that are soccer related but not FIFA managed

As a dog, Cam Scam, Jackson AAU bagmen, Sherrill being persecuted, and Swallowing hostess at Ole Miss are closer to home, but we at least have replay during our games now. I acknowledge you are correct about NFL socialist collusion and the Super Bowls sappy social engineering

If the leagues force Blatter out then things may change. The Olympic committee went through this a while back. Old Guard coruption on their selection committees. I prefer the EPL with it's warts. National Teams and WC are fun diversions. Suspect today though will be two teams holding their breath if neither scores in the first 30 minutes. Whoever wins I would just like to see them do it big and in regulation.

Agree with those Dog related slights, but truly the Miami wrist slap and the keystone cop BS of misbehavior in their investigation arm was the last straw. That was proof that their dynasty was built on cheating and the NCAA should have made an example of them. Instead a group of lawyers, former feds, and academic twits couldn't present a slam dunk case.

Now, let JWS cut the nuts off one steer.....

[dawgs]

Am I the only one that thinks the people that think all soccer fans are arrogant douchebags have created this arrogant douchebag persona they project on soccer fans based on assumptions or false stereotypes perpetuated by soccer haters?

I also find that when soccer haters go off on how stupid aspects of the sport is, they find it "arrogant" when you explain those aspects aren't stupid and actually make sense or enhance the game (offsides being one of them, lack of goals being another).

Of course soccer fans are going to get defensive when you bash something they enjoy. Especially when you are wrong or misinformed. You probably strongly defend msu when someone bashes us based on incorrect stereotypes or misinformation too.

[dawgs]

Shit, I'd take Ian Darke over Ellis at our games any day of the week.

Wish we had some better US talent than Lalas, but I like the ex-players they had. Some of them were among their generations' best. All that said I just wish Fox or NBC got the WC for the states. Either of them would do it infinitely better.

Pretty sure fox has the WC rights for 2018, and they've had Gus Johnson (of basketball announcing fame) in Europe studying with the best euro announcers and calling games aired in the states as he learns the nuances of called soccer.

[dawgs]

Never intended to reignite this debate with this post but as my mom always said, "Son, you shoulda known better'n think that." I just thought I found a video that made fun of the one thing that people that hated soccer and those that touch themselves when the World Cup is on tv agree on.

If almostpositive and the federalist engineer hadn't felt the need to clarify they think all soccer fans are assholes and douchebags, then the debate wouldn't have been started again. The video was funny and even soccer fans can laugh at themselves. Wouldn't have been a debate if some people can just move along with their lives without letting the world know how ignorant they are. Of course, they probably think the soccer fans are just being asshole douchebags defending themselves against being called asshole douchebags. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

It's no different than msu fans defending our fanbase when we're called toothless inbred uneducated hicks.