I honestly think this may be Freeze's

[cheewgumm]

Last year at ole
Miss university.

If we beat them he's gone. Agree?

[BeardoMSU]

I think they would have to have a real meltdown for that to happen, and baring some crazy OL injuries, I still see them as a bowl team this year. I'm sure OM fans want more than 7-5 this year, but would they fire a coach for going 6-6 whilst losing to their instate rival? That would be 3 bowl trips in a row.

A serious recruiting violation or something of that magnitude perhaps, but I wouldn't hold my breath for that to actually happen.

[CadaverDawg]

No chance. They'd have to go 1-11 to fire their Savior.

[DudyDawg]

I could see him gone if they go 6-6 and lose to us, but I think it would have more to do with overall record than losing to us. They won't fire him over us, but would consider it over missing a bowl or maybe even 6-6

[PassInterference]

No chance. They'd have to go 1-11 to fire their Savior.

He was operating under a cloud after losing a few in a row last year. I think if he goes 7-6 or worse he is on the hot seat for next year.

[starkvegasdawg]

I can't foresee a reason he is gone just for onfield performance unless it is a 0-12 or 1-11 type season and I don't see that happening. Now, we all know TSUN has had more than their share of off the field issues here recently, what with half their team now answering to defendant. Should have they have a meltdown of a season and have one or two badly embarrassing off field incidents then maybe...but doubtful. From being on a MSU/TSUN message board on FB (before being banned for calling a bear mod biased), they all think they will do great things this season and that their current coach is 1-1 against Mullen. That is their lame comeback for 4/5.

[AlSwearengen]

7-5, depending on who they beat and lose to, with a loss to us and he is on the hot seat. Of course whatever happens in a bowl game and on signing day could decide the temperature of the seat.

[BeardoMSU]

I could see him gone if they go 6-6 and lose to us, but I think it would have more to do with overall record than losing to us. They won't fire him over us, but would consider it over missing a bowl or maybe even 6-6

No way they fire him after a 6-6 reg season. That would be just stupid. What are their true expectations? They aren't that long removed from being absolutely pitiful. What would that say to prospective coaches that you can get fired for going to 3 straight post seasons? If that happens, it's official: OM is truly the most delusional fan base in the history of sports, and that delusion has taken hold at the highest levels within the university. But again, as I said, I don't think their that stupid.

[DawgHouseUnited]

No chance. They'd have to go 1-11 to fire their Savior.

This. Even if they miss a bowl game they'll find an excuse- OL, Bo Dirt, injuries, you name it. I'd guess that Freezus would get at least another year barring anything short of a complete & utter meltdown.

[Goat Holder]

If he loses at home to us, he's coaching for his job in 2015. No matter if their record is 4-8 or 7-5 (They won't be any better than that, assuming they lose to us).

[BeardoMSU]

This. Even if they miss a bowl game they'll find an excuse- OL, Bo Dirt, injuries, you name it. I'd guess that Freezus would get at least another year barring anything short of a complete & utter meltdown.

Agree with on both.

Y'all can forget about 1-11 though, guys. As much as some may hate to admit it; they're gonna be a pretty good team this year, and have the potential, just like us, to win a lot of games. Ultimately, for Freeze to get fired, I think it'll have less to do with W-L's, and more to do with some other type of unforeseen meltdown (i.e., violations, bangin' a ball-girl, etc.). Look at Bobby Petrino: he was considered one of the best coaches in the nation, and had Arkansas on the precipice of a top5 team...in the mix preseason to win it all, then boom!........Fired for embarrassing the university.

[CadaverDawg]

Nobody thinks they'll go 1-11....just that it would take that type of meltdown for Freeze to be fired. They will easily win 7+ this year. Anybody saying he could be fired after this year is crazy unless they completely meltdown, which won't happen.

Some people are missing the original question...."fired after THIS year?". He could achieve hot seat status for 2015 with a 5-7 season and a loss to us. With his recruiting, if he wins north of 5 games he's sitting pretty. Cutcliffe got fired for losing the crootin party,not his record. Freeze is winning the game OM cares the most about...the one played in February. Those delusional dipshits.

[TrapGame]

If we beat the Plantation University the next two years in a row Freeze's seat will be hotter than the surface of the sun.

[jumbo]

agree that it would take an 0-12 1-11 type season for him to be gone this year. But his seat will warm up if they go 6-6 or worse.

My prediction however is that they are 8-3 heading into the Egg Bowl.

[woozman]

That would be just stupid. What are their true expectations?.......But again, as I said, I don't think they're that stupid.

http://www.elevenwarriors.com/blogs/bucks43201/the-5-worst-firings-over-the-past-10-years-in-college-football

[paco]

I don't agree. However, after Freeze winning multiple recruiting championship's that the expectation of a 9 or 10 wind season is now the standard. I think that a 7-5 season and another loss to Big Dan (which is my prediction for them) will cause some unreston the plantation. I think that by 2016 the rebel nation will be split (just like they were with Cutcliffe, oger and Nutt).

[I seen it dawg]

I hope he stays forever.

[State82]

No chance. They'd have to go 1-11 to fire their Savior.

Yep. No way this is his last year. No way. He's 1-1 against us. He will have to go at least a couple games under .500 against MSU to get in serious hot water.

[Coach34]

Freezus aint going anywhere yet. He is exactly what they want- a RECRUITER.

He'll catch some shit if he loses the EB- but it wont cost him his job this year

[Dawgface]

Agree, he won't lose his job next. Now if he's caught screwing college girls or something, all bets are off. ;)

[I seen it dawg]

Agree, he won't lose his job next. Now if he's caught screwing college girls or something, all bets are off. ;)

High school girls maybe....

[CadaverDawg]

Agree, he won't lose his job next. Now if he's caught screwing college girls or something, all bets are off. ;)

What about chewing trees in the Grove?

[RTO Dawg]

Agree, he won't lose his job next. Now if he's caught screwing college girls or something, all bets are off. ;)

THIS^

[mic]

If they have a 7-5 6-6 year they will fire a lot of assistant coaches ... He will deflect blame off himself like he does basically every time they lose.
Wallace - egg bowl
Stealing offensive plays -bama
Lack of depth - left by last coach
Ect......

[sandwolf]

With his recruiting, if he wins north of 5 games he's sitting pretty. Cutcliffe got fired for losing the crootin party,not his record. Freeze is winning the game OM cares the most about...the one played in February. Those delusional dipshits.

Nailed it. Nothing else needs to be said.

[Bothrops]

Regardless of their record, if we beat them there will be problems in Oxford.

[Oxfordawg]

As much hype as their fan base is buying in to. If they go 6-6 and lose to us plus the potential of the class we have coming in it could get hot. No he won't be fired but they are really buying into the whole NC contender Phil Steele and the boys are feeding them. They are expecting to be world beaters already talking about who's left after they beat Bama. You know how close that game was last year Bama had to cheat to win****

[cheewgumm]

Extremely hot if we beat them again ... Then they'd have to face dak again in Starkville.

[RState]

They gone do whatever ol Archie tells em to. Speakin of he's probably shakin in his boots thinkin about how after this year Dak is gonna be considered the greatest MS qb of all time. Yeah let that marinate.

[CadaverDawg]

They gone do whatever ol Archie tells em to. Speakin of he's probably shakin in his boots thinkin about how after this year Dak is gonna be considered the greatest MS qb of all time. Yeah let that marinate.

Some people may be fooled by you, but I'm not. You're a troll, and not a good one. Coach, and other mods, take a look at his past posts and judge for yourselves. I won't ban him unless he pisses me off, but one of you veterans may want to pull the plug.

If I'm wrong about you, I'll apologize. But I won't be apologizing. Enjoy your short stay, obsession.

[Dawgfan77]

I'm still trying to understand how OM is going to be good this year. Other than Tunsil there OL is turrable. Morris is over weight out of shape and if the JUCO guy doesn't get in they have no RT. RN is ok on the DL, but not a game changer like 96 and other than RN they are small on the DL and ESP at LB Conner but Pruitt is not an all American. Guy had three of his 5 ints last year due to other throws. Treadwell is good but he is no Moncteif in fact he and Bear or similar. Treadwell more polished than Bear but both are not speed guys. I just don't see them being better than 5th in the West best case overall they are a 6 to 7 win team. No depth and no discipline

[HailState39110]

All of the pressure was on Dan last year trying to hold serve in the EB , playing at home ,and getting bowl eligible. Well Dan answered and now all of the pressure will be on Freeze this year. The home team wins a majority of the egg bowls so you know Freezus will have a huge target on his back if they lost and he was going to Starkville next year with potential to lose 3 in a row

[Johnson85]

As much hype as their fan base is buying in to. If they go 6-6 and lose to us plus the potential of the class we have coming in it could get hot. No he won't be fired but they are really buying into the whole NC contender Phil Steele and the boys are feeding them. They are expecting to be world beaters already talking about who's left after they beat Bama. You know how close that game was last year Bama had to cheat to win****

^^^THIS^^^^

Fans think 7 wins is minimum and anything less than 8 is a disappointment (which is probably not crazy if you ignore the fact that their OL is paper thin and their RT is possibly not even on campus yet). A disappointing 6 wins, plus another loss to that yankee bastard, and Dan more or less closing on the class he has going now, and the whispers will start. I think after Cutcliff he will actually get more rope, so I think he could go 6-6 and 5-7 the next two years and keep his job as long as he pulls in decent recruiting classes, but you never know what they will do if they think MSU is leaving them behind.

[Coach34]

OM will be good on D. Their season hinges on OL health provided they get that juco in school. If they stay relatively healthy, they are going to win 7-8 games.

[Covercorner2]

OM will be good on D. Their season hinges on OL health provided they get that juco in school. If they stay relatively healthy, they are going to win 7-8 games.



They are going to be fast, aggressive, deep at some positions, and overall pretty good on D, BUT like someone said earlier their front 7 is going to be relatively small. They only have 3 DL on the roster over 280 and none of them will start, and their LBs are relatively small too, especially for the SEC. Their size is night and day compared to ours. I think teams are going to be able to run the ball on them pretty effectively. And I'm not sure they will be able to run the ball effectively, either, due to the OLine issues already discussed and lack of big backs....

[1998Dawg]

They are going to be fast, aggressive, deep at some positions, and overall pretty good on D, BUT like someone said earlier their front 7 is going to be relatively small. They only have 3 DL on the roster over 280 and none of them will start, and their LBs are relatively small too, especially for the SEC. Their size is night and day compared to ours. I think teams are going to be able to run the ball on them pretty effectively. And I'm not sure they will be able to run the ball effectively, either, due to the OLine issues already discussed and lack of big backs....

This x 100. I had a bear coworker tell me all about their 2014 hype machine and how he expected them to be quality type team. My words were exactly the same, "how you expect to run the ball with all those little backs. This is the SEC".

As for their front 7, completely overhyped (of course). Robert Kardashion is still living off his crootin' profile days, Gross is tiny (I wouldn't trade any of our DTs for), CJ is injured and likely a shell of himself, and no one even knows who their other DE is...yet ALL of the preseason mags have their DL ranked high. Always funny how the bears can spin the media on their side. But never fails once fall rolls around they struggle.

[Dawgfan77]

The cannot control the line of scrimmage due to the depth and talent on the OL and size on the DL. They are not going to be good on D cause they won't be able to stop the run and there DBs are overrated. Stop there run game and minimize yac on the bubble screens will make Bo have to beat you with his arm and with no Moncteif to take the top off they will struggle to move the ball on decent teams this year and bo likes to throw ints

[Covercorner2]

This x 100. I had a bear coworker tell me all about their 2014 hype machine and how he expected them to be quality type team. My words were exactly the same, "how you expect to run the ball with all those little backs. This is the SEC".

As for their front 7, completely overhyped (of course). Robert Kardashion is still living off his crootin' profile days, Gross is tiny (I wouldn't trade any of our DTs for), CJ is injured and likely a shell of himself, and no one even knows who their other DE is...yet ALL of the preseason mags have their DL ranked high. Always funny how the bears can spin the media on their side. But never fails once fall rolls around they struggle.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/_/id/536560/fadol-brown

^^^^^^^^ That's probably going to be their 4th starting DL. He's this year's transfer that the bears seem to hype every offseason. The Most Interesting Sun Belt Transfer in the World. Dude had 1.5 sacks for FIU in 2012 and hasn't played since...

[1998Dawg]

Wow! that guy is going to start for them? gonna be a hole world of trouble up there when there DLine is getting pushed back 5 yds every play.

Serious question, but if there even a DLineman for them that would start for us? I don't think so.

[Covercorner2]

Wow! that guy is going to start for them? gonna be a hole world of trouble up there when there DLine is getting pushed back 5 yds every play.

Serious question, but if there even a DLineman for them that would start for us? I don't think so.

Nkemdiche and a healthy CJ Johnson would start for us. Smith and Jones would start for them and maybe PJ/Eulls. Difference is they don't have guys like PJ Jones/Eulls, Nick James, AJ Jefferson, Nelson Adams, etc. on the bench, and they also have very few players with +280 size and none of them are "impact" guys. Also their starters have question marks: Nkmediche legal trouble, CJ injures, Gross injuries, and Fadol Brown hasn't played in 2 years. Like most offseasons, a lot of their hype is based off of "ifs" and potential....

[1998Dawg]

You're crazy if you think Robert Kardashion would start for us. He probably weighs 270 soaking wet, not MSUesque DT size. You must be a bear troll.

And CJ Johnson? Maybe (I stress maybe) but I've got a few doctor friends and they all tell me with his injury, they don't think he'll be close to his oldself. Take it straight from the source.

And as you said, Karsashion may be in jail by August for all we know, CJ is still injured, Gross is injured (and not that good imo), and Brown is the tsun hype machine award winner. Back to my point, none would start for us.

[TheRef]

Nkemdiche would start for us...sorry...

[LC Dawg]

I think Freeze's ultimate demise is going to be caused by him not being able to handle pressure. He's been successful everywhere he's been in his short time as a college head coach and he seems to handle success with a good deal of cockiness. However, when confronted with a little bit of adversity he does not handle it well. He's already gotten into a shouting match with one of his own fans and tweets out smartass comments about commitment when one of his recruits flips. When he loses to someone he shouldn't, has a significant losing streak, or loses too many to Dan I think the pressure will overcome him. He won't be able to handle his fans or the media criticizing him. With his affinity for social media we could see an epic public meltdown where he clashes with his fans and the media and loses total control of his team. He's already on a little bit of shaky ground just because most of that delusional fan base really thinks they are one or two plays away from a national championship.

[Johnson85]

Robert Kardashion is still living off his crootin' profile days, Gross is tiny (I wouldn't trade any of our DTs for), CJ is injured and likely a shell of himself,

I would take any of those three, although I wouldn't enjoy cheering for Knemdichee or Johnson. I wouldn't want Gross for an every down DT because of his size, but the little I've watched him he's seemed like he would be good, especially if his snaps were limited enough that he didn't get worn out.

[Johnson85]

Nkemdiche would start for us...sorry...

Not sure who would start, but he would certainly be in the group getting starter reps.

[TheRef]

Not sure who would start, but he would certainly be in the group getting starter reps.

Agreed. He would definitely be in at least a heavy rotation with lots of snaps, in my opinion.

[jumbo]

Nkemdeeche would start or get 1st team reps just about anywhere

[Covercorner2]

Nkemdiche is somewhat of a 'tweener, which limits his ability to be a specialist or "elite" at one particular position (think Chris Jones/Fletcher Cox at DT or Dee Ford at DE, etc.), but with that being said, that is what makes him versatile and he would find a way to start for us and pretty much anywhere...

[CadaverDawg]

Depends on Nick James. If James is who we think he is, Little Kim wouldn't have a spot unless he moved outside.

Preston, James, Jones, Kim.

But if James isn't beast mode, Kim would start over him or Eulls easily IMO

[Jack Lambert]

I think they would have to have a real meltdown for that to happen, and baring some crazy OL injuries, I still see them as a bowl team this year. I'm sure OM fans want more than 7-5 this year, but would they fire a coach for going 6-6 whilst losing to their instate rival? That would be 3 bowl trips in a row.

A serious recruiting violation or something of that magnitude perhaps, but I wouldn't hold my breath for that to actually happen.

If they go 6 and 6 with a lost to MSU he could be gone! I'm just saying I woudn't be surprise.



1998 Cutcliff went 1-0, Ole Miss went to the Independence bowl
1999 Cutcliff went 8-4, Ole miss went to the Independence bowl
2000 Cutcliff went 7-5, Ole Miss went to the Music City Bowl
2001 Cutcliff went 7-4
2002 Cutcliff wnt 7-6, Ole Miss went to the Indepence Bowl
2003 Cutcliff went 10-3, Ole Miss went to the Cotton Bowl
2004 Cutcliff went 4-7, Fired!

[BeardoMSU]

You're crazy if you think Robert Kardashion would start for us. He probably weighs 270 soaking wet, not MSUesque DT size. You must be a bear troll.

And CJ Johnson? Maybe (I stress maybe) but I've got a few doctor friends and they all tell me with his injury, they don't think he'll be close to his oldself. Take it straight from the source.

And as you said, Karsashion may be in jail by August for all we know, CJ is still injured, Gross is injured (and not that good imo), and Brown is the tsun hype machine award winner. Back to my point, none would start for us.

Is this you trolling the OM fans reading this board? Because this is crazy....

[sandwolf]

Is this you trolling the OM fans reading this board? Because this is crazy....

Yea, he is definitely either completely blinded by his fandom or a troll.

[Pollodawg]

This won't be Freeze's last season. He would need a couple of 2-10 type years in a row to be shown the door imho. However, if he doesn't beat us this season, it will start the first briquettes under his seat. It won't get him fired, but it will definitely turn on the seat warmers.

[Political Hack]

All Magnolia Team
QB - Dak
RB - JRob
WR - Treadwell
WR - Tubby
WR - Wilson
TE - Engram
LT - Tunsil
OG - Morris
C - Day
RG - Clayborne
RT - Clausell

DE - CJ
DE - Kimchee
DT - Jones
DT - James
LB - Bryant or Shackelford
LB - BMac
LB - Wells
DB - Conner
DB - Pruitt
DB - Calhoun
DB - ???? Several to argue amongst

[Homedawg]

You're crazy if you think Robert Kardashion would start for us. He probably weighs 270 soaking wet, not MSUesque DT size. You must be a bear troll.

And CJ Johnson? Maybe (I stress maybe) but I've got a few doctor friends and they all tell me with his injury, they don't think he'll be close to his oldself. Take it straight from the source.

And as you said, Karsashion may be in jail by August for all we know, CJ is still injured, Gross is injured (and not that good imo), and Brown is the tsun hype machine award winner. Back to my point, none would start for us.

First, he weighs closer to 300 than 270. Second, you have lost your mind if you think he wouldn't start for us. Lastly, Gross is highly Under valued. He has given more than us fits. They use him the right way, he shoots a gap every play. He has to, because he's too small to play heads up. But he's quick and i'd take him right now!

[Political Hack]

First, he weighs closer to 300 than 270. Second, you have lost your mind if you think he wouldn't start for us. Lastly, Gross is highly Under valued. He has give more than us fits. They use him the right way, he shoots a gap every play. He has to, because he's too small to play heads up. But he's quick and is take him right now!

I thought Gross would be a bust because of his size in the SEC and the fact he's not a typical DE. I didn't think he could survive at DT, but so far he's proven me wrong. Kid can flat out play.

[Coach34]

All Magnolia Team
QB - Dak
RB - JRob
WR - Treadwell
WR - Tubby
WR - Wilson
TE - Engram
LT - Tunsil
OG - Morris
C - Day
RG - Clayborne
RT - Clausell

DE - CJ
DE - Kimchee
DT - Jones
DT - James
LB - Bryant or Shackelford
LB - BMac
LB - Wells
DB - Conner
DB - Pruitt
DB - Calhoun
DB - ???? Several to argue amongst

This is a very good list.