DWS Cam

[Esmerelda Villalobos]

Does it look like a crane snapped in half?

[State82]

Sure looks like it.

[MarcoRubio]

Does it look like a crane snapped in half?

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[Esmerelda Villalobos]

Wonder what was connected to it.
It would have to be really heavy. I dont see anything busted by the street.

[Maroonthirteen]

You can see in some of the older pics. A black crane on that side of the stadium. That doesn't mean it snapped in a half. Maybe they are disassembling it? What is left up there to do that would need a crane? Looks like all the concrete is poured.

my 2nd guess.

[FISHDAWG]

You can see in some of the older pics. A black crane on that side of the stadium. That doesn't mean it snapped in a half. Maybe they are disassembling it? What is left up there to do that would need a crane? Looks like all the concrete is poured.

my 2nd guess.

installing the prefabbed panels ( fabbed up in a shop - shipped to site - installed with a crane that you see in the background)
doesn't really look like concrete pump to me

[Esmerelda Villalobos]

Well that and Im pretty sure a big TV has yet to be installed. I assume they do that through cranes.

[Maroonthirteen]

You probably assume correctly. Which I think the big red one could handle that.

Maybe they are moving the crane to the east to finish the brick and panel work on the facade. I don't know, just throwing out some possible explanations.

[mjh94]

those telescoping boom cranes are definitely not supposed to bend like that... that's not right.

[Cowbells]

Pretty sure that is a concrete slab laying on the ground that fell. Looks like part of a driveway.....

[#660000]

Pretty sure that is a concrete slab laying on the ground that fell. Looks like part of a driveway.....

Looking a bit closer (CTRL and + to zoom) there are several folks checking out the damage. Looks like that tree might have taken a hit. You can also compare in this youtube time lapse.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlNkIafmcJc

https://oxblue.com/archive/0f1f8ae3fe7c7e4383b13a58d7e38c99/1024x768.jpg
https://oxblue.com/archive/0f1f8ae3fe7c7e4383b13a58d7e38c99/1024x768.jpg

[Aces High]

A crane did break. Nobody got hurt but a tree was damaged.

[TheRef]

A crane did break. Nobody got hurt but a tree was damaged.

Contribute that to the high winds last night with a cell we got. I'd estimate around 50 mph winds with higher gusts.

[DawgHouseUnited]

Ha I was just coming to ask the same question! I thought that was an awfully odd angle for that thing.

[Aces High]

Question. On the bottom of that picture, what is that random concrete column for? It doesnt look there is one on the opposite side.

[DawgHouseUnited]

Question. On the bottom of thar picture, what is that random concrete column for? It doesnt look there is one on the opposite side.

I've wondered that myself. My best guess is it will have something to do with stairs/elevator just to the left. Looking at the concept drawings doesn't really help- you can't see it.

[Esmerelda Villalobos]

Contribute that to the high winds last night with a cell we got. I'd estimate around 50 mph winds with higher gusts.

It happened early this morning. Between 7 and 7:30am. At least that is what was reported on another site just now.

[TheRef]

It happened early this morning. Between 7 and 7:30am. At least that is what was reported on another site just now.

Hmmmm...I don't remember high winds around then...GTR reports winds of 10 mph around then.....definitely not enough to break a crane.

[FISHDAWG]

if anyone can slow down or even completely stop a project in it's tracks it's OSHA ... hope nobody was hurt, if so you can count on OSHA coming on site and while they are there they will do a complete inspection which can take days slowing the progress dramatically

[#660000]

http://i.imgur.com/NGeBUNb.jpg

[TheRef]

I don't think it's supposed to bend that way.....

[DawgHouseUnited]

May be one of the facade panels?


ETA: looks like the construction cam is frozen, too. Intentional?

[TXDawg]

Maybe some MechE/Construction guys can comment, but how does a crane fail like that? It appears as though he'd doing a near-vertical lift off of that flatbed trailer. With little to no boom angle involved, it seems very odd that the boom would bend and fail. I know Ref said there wasn't much reported, but isn't high wind about the only way this could happen?

[mjh94]

that panel probably weighs, what, 10 to 12 tons? (basing that off of concrete weight and a rough dimension of that panel) those cranes are rated for 3 or 4 times that.

or put it this way.. the flat bed truck sitting there that carried in that panel can only hold about 25 tons. those type cranes are usually rated, at a minimum, 30 or so.


Maybe some MechE/Construction guys can comment, but how does a crane fail like that? It appears as though he'd doing a near-vertical lift off of that flatbed trailer. With little to no boom angle involved, it seems very odd that the boom would bend and fail. I know Ref said there wasn't much reported, but isn't high wind about the only way this could happen?

[FISHDAWG]

can't tell if it's concrete from here .... could be metal studs, gyp sheathing, & a veneer .... if so, that would weigh much less

ETA- I have seen a hammer-head crane fall before (wasn't there personally but my guys told me about it) ...but that was an erection error

[PassInterference]

Does it look like a crane snapped in half?

It is.

Its her fault.

http://cdn.idolator.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/09/miley-cyrus-wrecking-ball-video-600x337.jpg

[Esmerelda Villalobos]

that panel probably weighs, what, 10 to 12 tons? (basing that off of concrete weight and a rough dimension of that panel) those cranes are rated for 3 or 4 times that.

or put it this way.. the flat bed truck sitting there that carried in that panel can only hold about 25 tons. those type cranes are usually rated, at a minimum, 30 or so.

Panel weighed 36,000 pounds

[mjh94]

And that crane has a max rating of 200,000 pounds (per link belt website). I don't know much about cranes, but what would cause the boom to crease over like that other than a prior stress in the steel boom? Especially since the load was only 18% of the max.


Panel weighed 36,000 pounds

[monroedawg5646]

Best I can tell the crane is at most 90 ton capacity. Keep in mind that capacity is with the outriggers fully extended and the boom fully retracted and "over front". Judging by the pics The boom looks fully extended with a boom angle of 70-80 degrees. If I looked at the correct load chart work give it radius of about 25 feet and a capacity of approximately 25k pounds. Also when figuring capacity you have to take off for the stored boom extension, block, cable, rigging ect. Another thing to consider is that these capacities are 85% of the tipping capacity. Good thing all new cranes have computers and displays that figure all this shit for the operator. But they are also equipped with an override switch to get you out of hairy situations which very well could have been in use when the boom went limp.

[Mjoelner34]

. But they are also equipped with an override switch to get you out of hairy situations which very well could have been in use when the boom went limp.

Kind of like Viagra for cranes?

[mjh94]

good clarification, thanks.


Best I can tell the crane is at most 90 ton capacity. Keep in mind that capacity is with the outriggers fully extended and the boom fully retracted and "over front". Judging by the pics The boom looks fully extended with a boom angle of 70-80 degrees. If I looked at the correct load chart work give it radius of about 25 feet and a capacity of approximately 25k pounds. Also when figuring capacity you have to take off for the stored boom extension, block, cable, rigging ect. Another thing to consider is that these capacities are 85% of the tipping capacity. Good thing all new cranes have computers and displays that figure all this shit for the operator. But they are also equipped with an override switch to get you out of hairy situations which very well could have been in use when the boom went limp.

[ScoobaDawg]

It's simple....

We are M-State.... and the Indians did it.

Glad no one was hurt. That's just crazy.

[The Croom Diaries]

I am working at the company who supplied the crane today on a project. They told me that the crane was not leveled properly from the start. It has a capacity of 31 tons and the operator overrode it to lift 41 tons. Then it snapped.

[ShotgunDawg]

It's simple....

We are M-State.... and the Indians did it.

Glad no one was hurt. That's just crazy.

THIS

The Indians first plans to stifle our program's progress was to make Bear have surgery, but that plan was foiled by modern medicine. Now their new plan is to wreck our stadium expansion. Break a few cranes, eventually one will fall on someone, and BOOM, you get OSHA to shut down the work site and for MSU to be embarrassed.

Moral of the story: NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE CLEVERNESS AND RESOLVE OF THE INDIANS UNDER SCOTT FIELD. MSU must always plan for the rare event, the 1 in a million scenario, and must always be on their toes because the Indians are relentless.

[FISHDAWG]

THIS

The Indians first plans to stifle our program's progress was to make Bear have surgery, but that plan was foiled by modern medicine. Now their new plan is to wreck our stadium expansion. Break a few cranes, eventually one will fall on someone, and BOOM, you get OSHA to shut down the work site and for MSU to be embarrassed.

Moral of the story: NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE CLEVERNESS AND RESOLVE OF THE INDIANS UNDER SCOTT FIELD. MSU must always plan for the rare event, the 1 in a million scenario, and must always be on their toes because the Indians are relentless.

I wonder if a Goat Holder sacrifice would finally appease them