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I seen it dawg
06-15-2014, 10:41 PM
Completely shit his pants in the 9th. It can't feel good in the locker room knowing your head coach has no stones and can't manage a routine late inning situation when the nuts are on the line. The moment is way too big for him. Please keep him forever.

Schultzy
06-15-2014, 10:47 PM
No way you give that guy anything to hit. Set up the force play with a man on 2nd and go after the next guy. Papi is their best hitter, it's so simple. Just walk him.
The guy on 2nd was the whole ball game.

State82
06-15-2014, 10:54 PM
I swear I would have had a coronary if Cohen made that decision. I know they all have some head scratchers, at least from a fan perspective, but this one really boggles my mind. Can anybody give me even a minimally viable reason for pitching to that guy? Am I missing something completely?

Skydawg1
06-15-2014, 10:59 PM
Completely shit his pants in the 9th. It can't feel good in the locker room knowing your head coach has no stones and can't manage a routine late inning situation when the nuts are on the line. The moment is way too big for him. Please keep him forever.

Is like.."wtf??? He ain't one of mine".

Goat Holder
06-15-2014, 11:10 PM
Actually, the argument can be made that Bianco made a ballsy decision, ie he wasn't scared of Pspi. But that sort of crossed into stupid. Play the % and try to strike out the next guy.

mic
06-15-2014, 11:12 PM
Actually, the argument can be made that Bianco made a ballsy decision, ie he wasn't scared of Pspi. But that sort of crossed into stupid. Play the % and try to strike out the next guy.

No actually it can't .. No way you pitch to that guy period..

mic
06-15-2014, 11:13 PM
This stage is too big for Bianco, the players and fans..

Todd4State
06-15-2014, 11:22 PM
I swear I would have had a coronary if Cohen made that decision. I know they all have some head scratchers, at least from a fan perspective, but this one really boggles my mind. Can anybody give me even a minimally viable reason for pitching to that guy? Am I missing something completely?

No.

And on top of that, the guy hitting was drafted in the first round and was hitting .387 with RISP. Well, it's a little bit higher than that now.

Greenwood's mechanics were coming apart too. Had a LH pitcher ready in the bullpen to face their three big LH hitters in a row.

At first, I thought he might pitch around him and try to get him to chase, but that's not what happened.

I seen it dawg
06-15-2014, 11:25 PM
In a situation that big you don't leave it to the players and hope they do what you want. 4 pitchouts then walk your stumpy ass out there and throw up the left hand to the pen. As some have said it's very simple. You don't even act like you are screwing with Papi there.

I seen it dawg
06-15-2014, 11:26 PM
Actually, the argument can be made that Bianco made a ballsy decision, ie he wasn't scared of Pspi. But that sort of crossed into stupid. Play the % and try to strike out the next guy.

In what baseball universe? Just no

Acid mouth
06-15-2014, 11:32 PM
Didn't Bianco use to coach women's basketball**

War Machine Dawg
06-15-2014, 11:34 PM
In what baseball universe? Just no

In the #Goatverse where going to 1 more game than someone who watches every damn game on TV makes you more knowledgeable than the guy who watched every game.

ShotgunDawg
06-15-2014, 11:36 PM
Actually, the argument can be made that Bianco made a ballsy decision, ie he wasn't scared of Pspi. But that sort of crossed into stupid. Play the % and try to strike out the next guy.

Ballsy decisions are decisions that are made when there is something strategic to gain by being successful. There was nothing strategic that could have been logically gained by pitching to him there. It was a dumb, elementary mistake. No way around it.

Good coaches put their players in positions to be successful, and no matter how much "balls" Bianco has, he wasn't the guy on the mound actually having to make a perfect pitch in that situation. Bianco failed to give his player a chance to succeed. That's ignorance.

CadaverDawg
06-15-2014, 11:59 PM
Ballsy decisions are decisions that are made when there is something strategic to gain by being successful. There was nothing strategic that could have been logically gained by pitching to him there. It was a dumb, elementary mistake. No way around it.

Good coaches put their players in positions to be successful, and no matter how much "balls" Bianco has, he wasn't the guy on the mound actually having to make a perfect pitch in that situation. Bianco failed to give his player a chance to succeed. That's ignorance.

Exactly. Pitching to him with a tie game in the 6th in that situation....ballsy (maybe). Pitching to him when that run wins the game in the 9th in that situation....dipshit material

Schultzy
06-16-2014, 12:01 AM
Ballsy would've been to throw it four inches off the plate and hope he swung and missed. Anything other than that is stupid with a man on 2nd and two outs with Papi at the plate.

Eta: as others have said, you don't leave it up to the pitcher to decide.

Todd4State
06-16-2014, 12:21 AM
Ballsy would've been to throw it four inches off the plate and hope he swung and missed. Anything other than that is stupid with a man on 2nd and two outs with Papi at the plate.

Eta: as others have said, you don't leave it up to the pitcher to decide.

And even if you have a brain fart and DO decide to pitch to him, at least bring in a LH pitcher or LH specialist or something. At least then you would have some kind of somewhat logical reason for pitching to him.

RougeDawg
06-16-2014, 12:22 AM
The greatest outcome for OMs Omaha trip is them keeping Bianco longer. I don't see them canning him for 2-3 years at least, now that they've been to Omaha with him and his ingenious decisions.

Todd4State
06-16-2014, 12:32 AM
The greatest outcome for OMs Omaha trip is them keeping Bianco longer. I don't see them canning him for 2-3 years at least, now that they've been to Omaha with him and his ingenious decisions.

I think he is there as long as he wants to be now. Sort of like Polk. Either that or they're going to fire the guy that took them to Omaha for the first time in 42 years. It also pretty much means no Dan McDonnell for them.

messageboardsuperhero
06-16-2014, 12:41 AM
The greatest outcome for OMs Omaha trip is them keeping Bianco longer. I don't see them canning him for 2-3 years at least, now that they've been to Omaha with him and his ingenious decisions.

As long as Godwin gets hired away, I'm fine with them keeping Bianco. I'll be glad when Godwin is out of Oxford.

Todd4State
06-16-2014, 12:46 AM
As long as Godwin gets hired away, I'm fine with them keeping Bianco. I'll be glad when Godwin is out of Oxford.

That might happen sooner than later. Godwin is supposedly the lead candidate for the ECU job.

messageboardsuperhero
06-16-2014, 12:51 AM
That might happen sooner than later. Godwin is supposedly the lead candidate for the ECU job.

That's what I hear. Hopefully his alma mater ponies up.

Supposedly he wanted the UM job if/when Bianco was ever forced to step down- but with that likely not happening anytime soon, Godwin appears to be opening up his options.

engie
06-16-2014, 07:22 AM
That might happen sooner than later. Godwin is supposedly the lead candidate for the ECU job.

ECU is having difficulty showing him the financial commitment to baseball to lock him up. It's really not so much about him as what they can afford for assistants and facilities. I'd say 50/50 right now

Harrydawg
06-16-2014, 08:39 AM
Help me, what was the count on Papi?

Was it 3-1.....I can understand pitching the
Edges and If you got ahead in a pitchers
count - pitch one to him.

But, I think it was a hitters count....no damn way
you pitch to him....

Saltydog
06-16-2014, 09:05 AM
year, yeah well they'll definitely take a step back but they had some very, very good young players and they'll be very good a couple of years from now. YOu have guys like Bortles, Erroll Robinson and Woodman. Plus for next year they'll still have jugghead back, Yikes Orifice.

Todd4State
06-16-2014, 09:09 AM
year, yeah well they'll definitely take a step back but they had some very, very good young players and they'll be very good a couple of years from now. YOu have guys like Bortles, Erroll Robinson and Woodman. Plus for next year they'll still have jugghead back, Yikes Orifice.

And very few of them are pitchers. A lot of people forget that they had two weekend starters go through the SEC undefeated.

engie
06-16-2014, 09:27 AM
One thing is for certain, you can never accurately judge what baseball teams are going to be this far in advance.

Of the teams in Omaha, I would have only bet on Uva and Louisville at this point last year. Vandy was losing "a ton", it was gonna be Augie's swan song in mediocrity, Irvine was off the map, Ole Miss was going to be 6th in the west because of losing Wahl and Mayers, Tech was on no one's radar, and TCU was a wildcard. You just never know...too much volatility with the draft, injuries, and maturation of young players...

RougeDawg
06-16-2014, 10:53 AM
Help me, what was the count on Papi?

Was it 3-1.....I can understand pitching the
Edges and If you got ahead in a pitchers
count - pitch one to him.

But, I think it was a hitters count....no damn way
you pitch to him....

Pretty sure it was a fill count. The ball would have been out of any other park. The wind almost held it up long enough to allow outfielders to get it.

mic
06-16-2014, 11:14 AM
Help me, what was the count on Papi?

Was it 3-1.....I can understand pitching the
Edges and If you got ahead in a pitchers
count - pitch one to him.

But, I think it was a hitters count....no damn way
you pitch to him....

It doesn't matter what the count was , with first base open you DO NOT let that guy beat you..

starkvegasdawg
06-16-2014, 11:30 AM
It doesn't matter what the count was , with first base open you DO NOT let that guy beat you..

Somebody please explain to me what the big deal is about first base being open. I've never understood that. I'll always hear broadcasters say they can pitch him carefully or walk him because first base is open. So what? 99% of the time they say that there is a guy on second. If they walk him then they are on first and second. If there is a runner on first and they walk the guy there will be a runner on first and second. The outcome is identical so why does it matter if first base is occupied or not?

Dawgdom
06-16-2014, 11:50 AM
Somebody please explain to me what the big deal is about first base being open. I've never understood that. I'll always hear broadcasters say they can pitch him carefully or walk him because first base is open. So what? 99% of the time they say that there is a guy on second. If they walk him then they are on first and second. If there is a runner on first and they walk the guy there will be a runner on first and second. The outcome is identical so why does it matter if first base is occupied or not?

562

RougeDawg
06-16-2014, 12:35 PM
Somebody please explain to me what the big deal is about first base being open. I've never understood that. I'll always hear broadcasters say they can pitch him carefully or walk him because first base is open. So what? 99% of the time they say that there is a guy on second. If they walk him then they are on first and second. If there is a runner on first and they walk the guy there will be a runner on first and second. The outcome is identical so why does it matter if first base is occupied or not?

Sets up a force at all bases and is statistically the better play. Any base hit through the infield with two outs scores a runner from second. Which is why you don't walk him intentionally if you only have a runner on first. Never want to give opponent a man in scoring position in that spot because a hit scores him. Runner already on 2nd, so you walk Papi to set up forces and make someone other than the ACC player of the year beat you.

Todd4State
06-16-2014, 12:58 PM
Somebody please explain to me what the big deal is about first base being open. I've never understood that. I'll always hear broadcasters say they can pitch him carefully or walk him because first base is open. So what? 99% of the time they say that there is a guy on second. If they walk him then they are on first and second. If there is a runner on first and they walk the guy there will be a runner on first and second. The outcome is identical so why does it matter if first base is occupied or not?

Like Rouge said- it gives you more options to get an out and you don't have to face their most dangerous hitter. But like anything else in baseball- it depends on the hitter, the pitcher, the score, and the inning. If they had a guy hitting .200 up there, pitching to him isn't that horrible of an idea. It think what made it so bad in this situation was the fact that it was their best hitter and they didn't have to pitch to him.

Harrydawg
06-16-2014, 01:06 PM
On a side note....last night reconfirmed that I am true maroon.....

After that hit by my man Papi I went to the bedroom
where my wife offered herself to me.....I declined, told her I was tired.

Already satisfied....

starkvegasdawg
06-16-2014, 01:10 PM
On a side note....last night reconfirmed that I am true maroon.....

After that hit by my man Papi I went to the bedroom
where my wife offered herself to me.....I declined, told her I was tired.

Already satisfied....

You realize what you've done? In the land of sports superstition you must now decline your wife every time TSUN loses...in any sport. Hope you thought sex was overrated.

BulldogBear
06-16-2014, 02:59 PM
You realize what you've done? In the land of sports superstition you must now decline your wife every time TSUN loses...in any sport. Hope you thought sex was overrated.

It's sad really, but when you make a committment, you gotta follow through.

RougeDawg
06-16-2014, 03:33 PM
It's sad really, but when you make a committment, you gotta follow through.

- and in the name of Hugh we pray....