MSU vs. Tennessee Game 1 Thread

[coastratdog]

Deitz singles. Men on 1st n 2nd.

[msstate7]

Bases loaded = kiss of death

[TheRef]

Bases loaded...one out.....heck is up

[DudyDawg]

Nice AB pirtle. Bases chucked

[DawgSaint]

Please take advantage this time!!

[coastratdog]

Pirtle walks. Bases loaded 1 down.

[I seen it dawg]

Oh the horror, How would I survive? You on the rag again? Or are you still pissed about me always being right like I was with my basketball predictions?

Lol I knew that would get you going.

[msstate7]

Wild pitch please

[TheRef]

Popup to the infield for heck........Cody Walker in to bat.

[DawgSaint]

Fate would have it come down to Walker

[coastratdog]

Heck f3. 2 down.

[msstate7]

Glad we have walker up. Good thing Collins isn't hitting

[DawgSaint]

Sickening

[TheRef]

Effff......we leave the bases juiced AGAIN!!!!

[CadaverDawg]

Well, at least we earned that loss. Easier to swallow when you know we deserved to lose.

[coastratdog]

Walker Flys out. UT4 N MSU2

[Saltydog]

men in scoring position. This loss hurts us bad.

[maroonmania]

We have to be the least clutch hitting team in the history of college baseball.

[I seen it dawg]

Oh the horror, How would I survive? You on the rag again? Or are you still pissed about me always being right like I was with my basketball predictions?

Oh by the way you're banned *****

[GreenheadDawg]

This team makes me want to stick my head in a meat grinder. When is football season!

[bgdog]

That's just awful. I mean really really awful.

[CJDAWG85]

Absolutely comical how bad this team is...

[preachermatt83]

Oh by the way you're banned *****

He does add to the conversation at times. There are many on here that don't do that at all.

[msstate7]

I'm sure Cohen sees something in this team.

[smootness]

so no answer then? About par for the course for you. You have never offered anything valuable to any thread. EVER.

What are you even talking about now?

Calling our coach a moron is offering something to the thread?

[Bucky Dog]

Taking out Collins cost us. Cohen should have put Randolph in Vicks spot and moved Collins to DH.

[bluelightstar]

That was nothing short of pathetic.

[DudyDawg]

Two bases loaded. No runs. Can't ask to win doing that shit

[Todd4State]

Taking out Collins cost us. Cohen should have put Randolph in Vicks spot and moved Collins to DH.

Collins not being able to catch Lindgren cost us- as well as getting a key catcher's interference.

Randolph was awful- people can question the hit and run call, but he HAS to get the bat on the ball. And when you are brought in for defense, you HAVE to catch the pitches or at the very least block it.

I can give our entire outfield a pass for not even getting the f------- bat on the ball with no outs and the bases loaded. If somebody makes contact, odds are it's a run. Vickerson was as bad as any catcher that played tonight.

The fact that we don't have anyone that can catch a f------- fastball has cost us a regional host. And it's going to cost us in the postseason. Just a bunch of f---- ups.

[messageboardsuperhero]

I usually try to avoid postgame bashing posts for a while after the game ends, but I truly don't think I've ever seen a team as hit as poorly situationally in my entire life as we did against JSU and UT tonight. And I really don't think that's a postgame overreaction- that was honestly the most pathetic excuse for situational hitting I've ever seen. I mean, my God, that was truly awful in every conceivable way.

And the worst part? You just knew the entire time that we'd find a way to **** it up...

[Bothrops]

Now we're under a lot of pressure to win the next two. We haven't played well under pressure this year.

[Todd4State]

What are you even talking about now?

Calling our coach a moron is offering something to the thread?

What Matt considers "valuable" to a thread is completely different than anyone else with a normally functioning brain.

[preachermatt83]

What Matt considers "valuable" to a thread is completely different than anyone else with a normally functioning brain.

:cool:

[DudyDawg]

I usually try to avoid postgame bashing posts for a while after the game ends, but I truly don't think I've ever seen a team as hit as poorly situationally in my entire life as we did against JSU and UT tonight. And I really don't think that's a postgame overreaction- that was honestly the most pathetic excuse for situational hitting I've ever seen. I mean, my God, that was truly awful in every conceivable way.

And the worst part? You just knew the entire time that we'd find a way to **** it up...

Last part couldn't be more right. Bases loaded twice and not once was I sitting there thinking "yes they're loaded we got this". Instead I sat there saying "yes they're loaded who screws this up for us". Just God awful

[whosyourdawgy]

The players didn't come thru with clutch hits, but the players that didn't come thru were there because Cohen totally ****ed this game up. First of all having Vickerson at the DH is just absolutely dumb as shit. How many times did he strike out and kill our momentum? Then losing Collins because we HAVE to put in Randolph to catch Lindgren(who sucked tonight too). What did Randolph do at the plate tonight when he got a chance? Struck out every freaking time he batted and failed to get the bat on the ball on a dumbass hit and run call that got Pirtle thrown out at 3rd. Momentum killer not to mention he didn't catch shit. That move alone I think cost us this game. We had the bases loaded in the 8th and the 9th. When the bases got loaded in the 8th, Walker K'd which is where Collins shoulda been, Vick K'd, and then our only hope Armstrong K'd(which is unusual). Then in the 9th we load the bases up again with one out and Heck pops up then Walker again ends it.

So the players didn't get the hits, but the coach and his management of the game is what had the players not in the game that needed to be there to have our best shot at getting those hits.

We needed to sweep this very average UT team. Instead we are in the hole again on a Friday like we started the SEC off with and will have to hope that Ross can once again come and get us a W tomorrow. Hopefully Cohen will set a good lineup tomorrow and not **** with it during the game so we will have a chance to have more than 2 hitters in a row that can actually hit the freaking ball!

[HoopsDawg]

The players didn't come thru with clutch hits, but the players that didn't come thru were there because Cohen totally ****ed this game up. First of all having Vickerson at the DH is just absolutely dumb as shit. How many times did he strike out and kill our momentum? Then losing Collins because we HAVE to put in Randolph to catch Lindgren(who sucked tonight too). What did Randolph do at the plate tonight when he got a chance? Struck out every freaking time he batted and failed to get the bat on the ball on a dumbass hit and run call that got Pirtle thrown out at 3rd. Momentum killer not to mention he didn't catch shit. That move alone I think cost us this game. We had the bases loaded in the 8th and the 9th. When the bases got loaded in the 8th, Walker K'd which is where Collins shoulda been, Vick K'd, and then our only hope Armstrong K'd(which is unusual). Then in the 9th we load the bases up again with one out and Heck pops up then Walker again ends it.

So the players didn't get the hits, but the coach and his management of the game is what had the players not in the game that needed to be there to have our best shot at getting those hits.

We needed to sweep this very average UT team. Instead we are in the hole again on a Friday like we started the SEC off with and will have to hope that Ross can once again come and get us a W tomorrow. Hopefully Cohen will set a good lineup tomorrow and not **** with it during the game so we will have a chance to have more than 2 hitters in a row that can actually hit the freaking ball!

This is spot on. And it's really, really hard for a coach in baseball to fck things up with in-game decisions, but Cohen manages to do it several times a year. Taking Collins out was huge.

[DawgSaint]

I was so sick after the game I didn't listen to Cohen's post game. He say anything if substance?

[msstate7]

I was so sick after the game I didn't listen to Cohen's post game. He say anything if substance?

Can't hit the 10 foot putt or some crap

[DawgSaint]

Can't hit the 10 foot putt or some crap

Sounds about right

[I seen it dawg]

He does add to the conversation at times. There are many on here that don't do that at all.

I'm just kidding

[DudyDawg]

I was so sick after the game I didn't listen to Cohen's post game. He say anything if substance?

Said they did Randolph Collins move in auburn and it worked. Said it didn't tonight. Said bottom of order needs to step up w RISP. Said we need to be men

[DudyDawg]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGFKFknrjog here it is

[cbrunt29]

I was so sick after the game I didn't listen to Cohen's post game. He say anything if substance?
He also said, "We didn't lose to Tennessee tonight. The game punched us in the face."

Whatever the hell that means

[DudyDawg]

He also said, "We didn't lose to Tennessee tonight. The game punched us in the face."

Whatever the hell that means

He's referring to lingo slider bouncing 4 feel left of the plate and hitting Randolph in the face three times

[DawgSaint]

He also said, "We didn't lose to Tennessee tonight. The game punched us in the face."

Whatever the hell that means

He tries to be all philosophical with "the game moves to fast" or "the game will find you" Umm it would be the ball that "finds" you. And it's either pitched or hit by the other team. So yes, Tennessee beat us!

[I seen it dawg]

Lol yes he is. Lingo wasn't a first rounder tonite.

[I seen it dawg]

And sometimes it rains

[berr6728]

you as Mississippi State follows should realize by now that Cohen is not our answer to our head baseball coach. He is pathetic as a head coach. I have followed MSU baseball for 54 years and this is the most pathetic season I have ever folowred in the 54 years of MSU baseball. We are a horrible team. There is decention on this team and I do know if John knows how to solve it. I will not go back to watch this chatic display of baseball by Cohens coached team. I am in favor of looking at changing who is in charge and that includes our head coach. I am sorry to state this but I left early after the Ole Miss fiasco and vowed I would not go back until we change coaches. We are a sorry example of a baseball team. All you that think we are ok as Gene of Genes page has said are drinking the maroon koolaid we stink as a baseball team.

[FFF]

The players didn't come thru with clutch hits, but the players that didn't come thru were there because Cohen totally ****ed this game up. First of all having Vickerson at the DH is just absolutely dumb as shit. How many times did he strike out and kill our momentum? Then losing Collins because we HAVE to put in Randolph to catch Lindgren(who sucked tonight too). What did Randolph do at the plate tonight when he got a chance? Struck out every freaking time he batted and failed to get the bat on the ball on a dumbass hit and run call that got Pirtle thrown out at 3rd. Momentum killer not to mention he didn't catch shit. That move alone I think cost us this game. We had the bases loaded in the 8th and the 9th. When the bases got loaded in the 8th, Walker K'd which is where Collins shoulda been, Vick K'd, and then our only hope Armstrong K'd(which is unusual). Then in the 9th we load the bases up again with one out and Heck pops up then Walker again ends it.

So the players didn't get the hits, but the coach and his management of the game is what had the players not in the game that needed to be there to have our best shot at getting those hits.

We needed to sweep this very average UT team. Instead we are in the hole again on a Friday like we started the SEC off with and will have to hope that Ross can once again come and get us a W tomorrow. Hopefully Cohen will set a good lineup tomorrow and not **** with it during the game so we will have a chance to have more than 2 hitters in a row that can actually hit the freaking ball!

I'd say this, but he's mismanaged this team all season long. Armstrong gets on a hot streak... what does Cohen do? Platoon him with Vickerson... AFTER Vickerson has led off all year and has either K'ed or popped up. We had a new lineup every damn night and NONE of them included hitters. Instead of working guys like Garner and Randolph in at DH (since... you know... they were recruited to hit), we leave in the Vickerson experiment and switch them up every night instead of letting them learn and grow in a spot and making adjustments from there. We have had zero continuity this year, zero heart, and worst of all, this team has no idea who they are (ESPECIALLY at the plate) and no one to lead them, and it's strictly on Cohen.

[messageboardsuperhero]

you as Mississippi State follows should realize by now that Cohen is not our answer to our head baseball coach. He is pathetic as a head coach. I have followed MSU baseball for 54 years and this is the most pathetic season I have ever folowred in the 54 years of MSU baseball. We are a horrible team. There is decention on this team and I do know if John knows how to solve it. I will not go back to watch this chatic display of baseball by Cohens coached team. I am in favor of looking at changing who is in charge and that includes our head coach. I am sorry to state this but I left early after the Ole Miss fiasco and vowed I would not go back until we change coaches. We are a sorry example of a baseball team. All you that think we are ok as Gene of Genes page has said are drinking the maroon koolaid we stink as a baseball team.

LOL.

You say this is the worst MSU baseball team you've ever seen in 54 years... How quickly you forget the 2008 fiasco and the absolute joke of a roster Polk left for Cohen- not to mention the fact that he badmouthed Cohen every chance he got. People saying this is the "worst team in MSU history" are laughable to me. We're still going to make a regional and probably finish the season with a winning SEC record.

John Cohen is and will be our coach for the foreseeable future- you might as well accept that. Damn, the guy just took us to the national championship series LAST YEAR, which is something Polk never did with teams more talented than what we had last season.

[Quaoarsking]

you as Mississippi State follows should realize by now that Cohen is not our answer to our head baseball coach. He is pathetic as a head coach. I have followed MSU baseball for 54 years and this is the most pathetic season I have ever folowred in the 54 years of MSU baseball. We are a horrible team. There is decention on this team and I do know if John knows how to solve it. I will not go back to watch this chatic display of baseball by Cohens coached team. I am in favor of looking at changing who is in charge and that includes our head coach. I am sorry to state this but I left early after the Ole Miss fiasco and vowed I would not go back until we change coaches. We are a sorry example of a baseball team. All you that think we are ok as Gene of Genes page has said are drinking the maroon koolaid we stink as a baseball team.

Nicely done.

[I seen it dawg]

you as Mississippi State follows should realize by now that Cohen is not our answer to our head baseball coach. He is pathetic as a head coach. I have followed MSU baseball for 54 years and this is the most pathetic season I have ever folowred in the 54 years of MSU baseball. We are a horrible team. There is decention on this team and I do know if John knows how to solve it. I will not go back to watch this chatic display of baseball by Cohens coached team. I am in favor of looking at changing who is in charge and that includes our head coach. I am sorry to state this but I left early after the Ole Miss fiasco and vowed I would not go back until we change coaches. We are a sorry example of a baseball team. All you that think we are ok as Gene of Genes page has said are drinking the maroon koolaid we stink as a baseball team.

Take your meds and sleep it off jackhole

[engie]

LOL.

You say this is the worst MSU baseball team you've ever seen in 54 years... How quickly you forget

He didn't forget -- he was just exercising a rare opportunity to pull back out the Polk agenda. Fits the profile perfectly. And to think that people have tried to proclaim that mindset to be dead?

[DudyDawg]

Just a quick question for the whacko 54 year fan. In those 54, how many times have we been in a nation championship? Just curious.
Fire able offense? Nah

[berr6728]

I did not say worst team I have seen in 54 years. I said worst coached team with the talent we have in 54 years. An old blind hog can stumble up on an acorn every once and a while. We lucked up in 2007 and lucked up in 2013. It is what it is. We will not make it bk to Omaha again for some 6 or 7 years. We do not have a consistant program to go every 2 to 3 years to Omaha like a LSU-South Carolina-UCLA- North Carolina-Rice-Oregan State. Untill we do I will not bite my tongue on my critizem of our baseball program. All you nuts that want to build a new stadium are crazy to think that the people will come if you build it, including our AD and our Head coach. Economics and local population will tell you differently. We will only put buts in stands on special weekends like SBW or NCAA Regions or NCAA Super Regions . So building a new stadium is wasting money. So put that in your pipe and smoke it. We are the worst coached team in the SEC. Our head coach has cost us 7 games this year alone by his pig headed attitude.

Darryl Berryhill
Class of 1963/65
Box 13 DNF/PDS
berr6758@bellsouth.net
1-225-205-1499

[DudyDawg]

We just pulled 6k w about 500 students in town. How on earth is that bad attendance? That makes less sense than anything you've said. You really think we won't fill out a stadium w 8k seats and the outfield intact? It may not look like it but we will never fall out of the top five in attendance in the foreseeable future

[DudyDawg]

The people already come Darryl, and we haven't yet built it

[Todd4State]

The players didn't come thru with clutch hits, but the players that didn't come thru were there because Cohen totally ****ed this game up. First of all having Vickerson at the DH is just absolutely dumb as shit. How many times did he strike out and kill our momentum? Then losing Collins because we HAVE to put in Randolph to catch Lindgren(who sucked tonight too). What did Randolph do at the plate tonight when he got a chance? Struck out every freaking time he batted and failed to get the bat on the ball on a dumbass hit and run call that got Pirtle thrown out at 3rd. Momentum killer not to mention he didn't catch shit. That move alone I think cost us this game. We had the bases loaded in the 8th and the 9th. When the bases got loaded in the 8th, Walker K'd which is where Collins shoulda been, Vick K'd, and then our only hope Armstrong K'd(which is unusual). Then in the 9th we load the bases up again with one out and Heck pops up then Walker again ends it.

So the players didn't get the hits, but the coach and his management of the game is what had the players not in the game that needed to be there to have our best shot at getting those hits.

We needed to sweep this very average UT team. Instead we are in the hole again on a Friday like we started the SEC off with and will have to hope that Ross can once again come and get us a W tomorrow. Hopefully Cohen will set a good lineup tomorrow and not **** with it during the game so we will have a chance to have more than 2 hitters in a row that can actually hit the freaking ball!

Vickerson should sit. I think he is overwhelmed by the SEC right now. He may be fine next year- may not. We'll see.

Our catchers are killing us. I know nobody likes taking Collins bat out of the lineup, but he simply can not catch Lindgren. If we keep Collins in with Lindgren, we're going to be giving away all kind of runs on wild pitches, passed balls, catcher's interference and anything else bad that can happen. The only solution is to not have a catcher that can't catch some of our pitchers or be in a position where we are starting a true freshman and a walk-on behind the plate. In other words- catcher is a lost cause this year.

[messageboardsuperhero]

I did not say worst team I have seen in 54 years. I said worst coached team with the talent we have in 54 years. An old blind hog can stumble up on an acorn every once and a while. We lucked up in 2007 and lucked up in 2013. It is what it is. We will not make it bk to Omaha again for some 6 or 7 years. We do not have a consistant program to go every 2 to 3 years to Omaha like a LSU-South Carolina-UCLA- North Carolina-Rice-Oregan State. Untill we do I will not bite my tongue on my critizem of our baseball program.

I've tried so damn hard to refute this ridiculous claim, I don't even feel like responding to this statement.


All you nuts that want to build a new stadium are crazy to think that the people will come if you build it, including our AD and our Head coach. Economics and local population will tell you differently. We will only put buts in stands on special weekends like SBW or NCAA Regions or NCAA Super Regions . So building a new stadium is wasting money.

We are second in THE ENTIRE COUNTRY in college baseball attendance this year. We have been in the top five ever year that I can remember. And as for people actually showing up, have you watched any other SEC baseball games on TV this season? Our actual attendance is as good or better than anyone else's in the entire country. People buy tickets and show up to games here as well as any other school in America.

Do people honestly expect the stands to be jam-packed every single game, and if they aren't, it's a sign that our fans suck? The people who think this way really need to go to some LSU or UM games. Our actual attendance is not much worse than LSU's and it's better than UM's, but yet you never hear their fans talk about how they don't "pack it out" every game- therefore don't deserve to have a nice facility.


So put that in your pipe and smoke it. We are the worst coached team in the SEC. Our head coach has cost us 7 games this year alone by his pig headed attitude.

LOL.

And no, we aren't the worst coached team in the SEC. Cohen has made some dumbass in-game decisions this year- I'll give you that. But to say that he should be fired after this season is laughable at best- at worst, it's psychotic.

[Todd4State]

you as Mississippi State follows should realize by now that Cohen is not our answer to our head baseball coach. He is pathetic as a head coach. I have followed MSU baseball for 54 years and this is the most pathetic season I have ever folowred in the 54 years of MSU baseball. We are a horrible team. There is decention on this team and I do know if John knows how to solve it. I will not go back to watch this chatic display of baseball by Cohens coached team. I am in favor of looking at changing who is in charge and that includes our head coach. I am sorry to state this but I left early after the Ole Miss fiasco and vowed I would not go back until we change coaches. We are a sorry example of a baseball team. All you that think we are ok as Gene of Genes page has said are drinking the maroon koolaid we stink as a baseball team.

Really? Let's not act like everything was awesome under Polk. Well, other than your seats with your name on it.

You're not going to go back for awhile because Cohen is going to be here for awhile. Why would we get rid of a coach that has taken us farther than any other coach in the school's HISTORY and hasn't even reached his prime and is starting to get recruiting really going to the point where he can do what he wants on offense and on the mound?

Stricklin may be dumb enough to make us wear pink uniforms, but he ain't dumb enough to fire Cohen.

[Todd4State]

I did not say worst team I have seen in 54 years. I said worst coached team with the talent we have in 54 years. An old blind hog can stumble up on an acorn every once and a while. We lucked up in 2007 and lucked up in 2013. It is what it is. We will not make it bk to Omaha again for some 6 or 7 years. We do not have a consistant program to go every 2 to 3 years to Omaha like a LSU-South Carolina-UCLA- North Carolina-Rice-Oregan State. Untill we do I will not bite my tongue on my critizem of our baseball program. All you nuts that want to build a new stadium are crazy to think that the people will come if you build it, including our AD and our Head coach. Economics and local population will tell you differently. We will only put buts in stands on special weekends like SBW or NCAA Regions or NCAA Super Regions . So building a new stadium is wasting money. So put that in your pipe and smoke it. We are the worst coached team in the SEC. Our head coach has cost us 7 games this year alone by his pig headed attitude.

Darryl Berryhill
Class of 1963/65
Box 13 DNF/PDS
berr6758@bellsouth.net
1-225-205-1499

IF we build our new stadium and actually lose attendance, that would be the first time I have ever heard of that happening. Ever. Anywhere. New stadiums draw people. A winning team which we are- is also going to draw people.

Don't worry- you are still going to get good seats in the new one.

We didn't luck up in 2013. Our COACH was willing to do something unconventional with our pitching staff- something that almost no other coaches would have done- and then we used two of the better players I have seen at MSU on offense to generate enough offense to get to the championship round.

And I have bad news for you- we're recruiting better than ever. We're just starting.

[Todd4State]

He didn't forget -- he was just exercising a rare opportunity to pull back out the Polk agenda. Fits the profile perfectly. And to think that people have tried to proclaim that mindset to be dead?

It's sad that we have "fans" that would rather keep their really good seats than win. Or maybe I should say insure that they are going to keep their really good seats. I can't imagine that we would screw over people that have actually been showing up for years.

Take MSU to a SR, SEC Tournament Championship, and then the NC round? Fire Cohen! He took my name off my seat!

[Todd4State]

I've tried so damn hard to refute this ridiculous claim, I don't even feel like responding to this statement.



We are second in THE ENTIRE COUNTRY in college baseball attendance this year. We have been in the top five ever year that I can remember. And as for people actually showing up, have you watched any other SEC baseball games on TV this season? Our actual attendance is as good or better than anyone else's in the entire country. People buy tickets and show up to games here as well as any other school in America.

Do people honestly expect the stands to be jam-packed every single game, and if they aren't, it's a sign that our fans suck? The people who think this way really need to go to some LSU or UM games. Our actual attendance is not much worse than LSU's and it's better than UM's, but yet you never hear their fans talk about how they don't "pack it out" every game- therefore don't deserve to have a nice facility.



LOL.

And no, we aren't the worst coached team in the SEC. Cohen has made some dumbass in-game decisions this year- I'll give you that. But to say that he should be fired after this season is laughable at best- at worst, it's psychotic.

It's real funny to me how in 2007, we made it to Omaha because of Ron Polk. But 2013 where we actually played consistently good baseball- luck.

[MarketingBully01]

The players didn't come thru with clutch hits, but the players that didn't come thru were there because Cohen totally ****ed this game up. First of all having Vickerson at the DH is just absolutely dumb as shit. How many times did he strike out and kill our momentum? Then losing Collins because we HAVE to put in Randolph to catch Lindgren(who sucked tonight too). What did Randolph do at the plate tonight when he got a chance? Struck out every freaking time he batted and failed to get the bat on the ball on a dumbass hit and run call that got Pirtle thrown out at 3rd. Momentum killer not to mention he didn't catch shit. That move alone I think cost us this game. We had the bases loaded in the 8th and the 9th. When the bases got loaded in the 8th, Walker K'd which is where Collins shoulda been, Vick K'd, and then our only hope Armstrong K'd(which is unusual). Then in the 9th we load the bases up again with one out and Heck pops up then Walker again ends it.

So the players didn't get the hits, but the coach and his management of the game is what had the players not in the game that needed to be there to have our best shot at getting those hits.

We needed to sweep this very average UT team. Instead we are in the hole again on a Friday like we started the SEC off with and will have to hope that Ross can once again come and get us a W tomorrow. Hopefully Cohen will set a good lineup tomorrow and not **** with it during the game so we will have a chance to have more than 2 hitters in a row that can actually hit the freaking ball!

You are absolutely correct with this post. I agree 100%. We can't continue to do this LH/RH matchup bull shit the rest of the year. Find a lineup to go with and stick with it. Cohen knew his lineup last year understood what kids could and couldn't do in last year's lineup. This year he has no clue. For instance, Vickerson sucks starting. He does a great job pinch hitting. I bet if you looked at his batting average with pinch hits vs starting it would be a 150 point difference. Same with Hump. Humphreys doesn't do well as a pinch hitter. He is however better when he gets a few at bats in him. If we had Collins and Humphreys in the lineup at the 4 and 5 spot tonight like we did last Sunday, odds are good we win the game and odds are good we score much earlier and just maybe Fitts pitches better. Bradford was the only bright spot it sounded like tonight but I think he works better in the 2 hole with Heck leading off.

This shuffling the lineup (especially the front end) probably is having an effect on our ability to be a consistent hitting team. Cohen needs to know his lineup by now but his shuffling of the lineup and how our players perform in those roles tells me otherwise.

[berr6728]

the attendance figures are based on season ticket sales and walk ups each game, not acual attendance. You can figure that we have 5000 season tickets sales and 1000 walk up sales, so new stadium will get same attendance. Economics does not support what you koolaid drinkers think. We do not have enough population in the surrounding area to support what you and our stupid AD thinks. I am a Math major from MSU and the math does not add up, sorry. You need some 3,000,000 in population to draw from to consistently draw 7 to 9 thousand fans to each weekend game. You have to compete with 2 other major Universities as well as every other activity in the surrounding area. I hope it will work but I am not optimistic it will. I am 72 years old and do not see these things happening in the rest of my lifetime. The people at LSU thought just as all of you, that they would constantly fill up, not so as of this year. They have had their worst attendance in last 7 to 8 years. Still have season ticket sales and walk ups but stands are empty in many areas. No shows, just like it will be at MSU, ECONOMICS. I will not renew my 6 season tickets for baseball as the SEC network will allow me to watch all of States games as well as a few others and not have to drive 375 miles one way to watch a very poor coached team from my arm chair in Louisiana. I love my University but I am very unhappy with our AD and our Baseball coach and what athletics has become today. At my age I do not need to go thru the agrevation of a season like this year.

[Todd4State]

You are absolutely correct with this post. I agree 100%. We can't continue to do this LH/RH matchup bull shit the rest of the year. Find a lineup to go with and stick with it. Cohen knew his lineup last year understood what kids could and couldn't do in last year's lineup. This year he has no clue. For instance, Vickerson sucks starting. He does a great job pinch hitting. I bet if you looked at his batting average with pinch hits vs starting it would be a 150 point difference. Same with Hump. Humphreys doesn't do well as a pinch hitter. He is however better when he gets a few at bats in him. If we had Collins and Humphreys in the lineup at the 4 and 5 spot tonight like we did last Sunday, odds are good we win the game and odds are good we score much earlier and just maybe Fitts pitches better. Bradford was the only bright spot it sounded like tonight but I think he works better in the 2 hole with Heck leading off.

This shuffling the lineup (especially the front end) probably is having an effect on our ability to be a consistent hitting team. Cohen needs to know his lineup by now but his shuffling of the lineup and how our players perform in those roles tells me otherwise.

At first I thought you were saying that you agree 100% with Berryhill. I was like WTF?

I'm going to try to explain this- and bear in mind I'm not justifying, just explaining. Cohen values experience- if he can at all help it. That's a big reason why Humphreys doesn't play more. And in most cases Cohen is right about that- but there certainly are also players that CAN handle playing as freshmen as well. I think Humphreys would do OK if he played and started every day.

Vickerson is an older player- but he's not a very good player right now.

I think CT and Cody Brown should both start no matter what. Armstrong and Henderson- just depends on who is hot, but Armstrong is hitting SEC pitching better and he doesn't screw up as much.

[berr6728]

All of you that want to jump on me, go head. I have paid my dues for last 54 years and do not need a snotty nose sob correcting me or slamming me. All of you are whipper snappers who can not find their ass from their head, I feel I can post what I want and do not give a damn what any of you think.

[messageboardsuperhero]

Also, you mentioned that UCLA is a "consistent program." Well guess what they'll be doing come playoff time? That's right, they'll be sitting at home. What about North Carolina? They're still fighting to get in this year. What about the consistent program and preseason #1 in the country this year Cal State Fullerton? They'll be sitting at home with UCLA. NC State has two first rounders on their team and are likely going to miss the tourney as well.

You need some damn perspective bud. Even good programs have rough years, and if making a regional as a two or three seed is a rough year for us, that's certainly something I can live with. This has been a Murphy's Law type of year for us, and we're STILL at least going to make the postseason and probably have a winning SEC record. Has this been a disappointing season? Yeah, no doubt about it. I'm not at all pleased with the way we've performed. But it's not like we're just God-awful and should fire the coach who just took us to the national championship series last year and is recruiting the best talent he's had since coming here.

[CJDAWG85]

Y'all all need to shit the **** up. Stop the pissing match. Who cares?? Accept who we are and move on with your life. I'm looking at Detz in the bar and laughing because so many of y'all are still so butt hurt over the loss. He could give a ****. I hate we lost and am pissed about the wasted opportunities, but go have a beer. Smile. We got the Egg.

[messageboardsuperhero]

All of you that want to jump on me, go head. I have paid my dues for last 54 years and do not need a snotty nose sob correcting me or slamming me. All of you are whipper snappers who can not find their ass from their head, I feel I can post what I want and do not give a damn what any of you think.

Hey guys, I can't find my ass. Can any of you whipper snappers help me out?

[Todd4State]

the attendance figures are based on season ticket sales and walk ups each game, not acual attendance. You can figure that we have 5000 season tickets sales and 1000 walk up sales, so new stadium will get same attendance. Economics does not support what you koolaid drinkers think. We do not have enough population in the surrounding area to support what you and our stupid AD thinks. I am a Math major from MSU and the math does not add up, sorry. You need some 3,000,000 in population to draw from to consistently draw 7 to 9 thousand fans to each weekend game. You have to compete with 2 other major Universities as well as every other activity in the surrounding area. I hope it will work but I am not optimistic it will. I am 72 years old and do not see these things happening in the rest of my lifetime. The people at LSU thought just as all of you, that they would constantly fill up, not so as of this year. They have had their worst attendance in last 7 to 8 years. Still have season ticket sales and walk ups but stands are empty in many areas. No shows, just like it will be at MSU, ECONOMICS. I will not renew my 6 season tickets for baseball as the SEC network will allow me to watch all of States games as well as a few others and not have to drive 375 miles one way to watch a very poor coached team from my arm chair in Louisiana. I love my University but I am very unhappy with our AD and our Baseball coach and what athletics has become today. At my age I do not need to go thru the agrevation of a season like this year.

You're first problem is asserting that we should only build a new stadium if it means that we sell it out every night. No one does that. Not even MLB. That's extremely short sighted. We're going to have smaller crowds at times simply because there are going to be times like spring break, exams, etc. that students are not going to be in town. If we're playing Alcorn in February and it's 40 degrees on a Tuesday, we're never going to sell that out either- and it's unrealistic to expect that.

Conversely, we're also going to have SBW, Regionals, SR, weekends against big name and rival teams- and those are going to draw well.

You're second problem is assuming that we shouldn't build a new stadium because we are currently drawing well. A new stadium is going to be more comfortable and a better experience for our fans overall. It's going to help with recruiting because the players are going to see something nice and modern as opposed to old and outdated when compared to who we are recruiting against in the SEC.

[messageboardsuperhero]

You're first problem is asserting that we should only build a new stadium if it means that we sell it out every night. No one does that. Not even MLB. That's extremely short sighted. We're going to have smaller crowds at times simply because there are going to be times like spring break, exams, etc. that students are not going to be in town. If we're playing Alcorn in February and it's 40 degrees on a Tuesday, we're never going to sell that out either- and it's unrealistic to expect that.

Conversely, we're also going to have SBW, Regionals, SR, weekends against big name and rival teams- and those are going to draw well.

You're second problem is assuming that we shouldn't build a new stadium because we are currently drawing well. A new stadium is going to be more comfortable and a better experience for our fans overall. It's going to help with recruiting because the players are going to see something nice and modern as opposed to old and outdated when compared to who we are recruiting against in the SEC.

Very well said.

[MarketingBully01]

At first I thought you were saying that you agree 100% with Berryhill. I was like WTF?

I'm going to try to explain this- and bear in mind I'm not justifying, just explaining. Cohen values experience- if he can at all help it. That's a big reason why Humphreys doesn't play more. And in most cases Cohen is right about that- but there certainly are also players that CAN handle playing as freshmen as well. I think Humphreys would do OK if he played and started every day.

Vickerson is an older player- but he's not a very good player right now.

I think CT and Cody Brown should both start no matter what. Armstrong and Henderson- just depends on who is hot, but Armstrong is hitting SEC pitching better and he doesn't screw up as much.

I agree 100% Todd with what you are saying. He values experience and I get that but that trait has bit him in the ass with this year's team with Rea and Detz and others. I think Cohen is a great coach and will win a national championship at MSU before he retires. I think this season is an anomaly and the 2013 season will be the norm. I think this year is a good example of what can happen when a team doesn't have great senior leadership.

[Todd4State]

Y'all all need to shit the **** up. Stop the pissing match. Who cares?? Accept who we are and move on with your life. I'm looking at Detz in the bar and laughing because so many of y'all are still so butt hurt over the loss. He could give a ****. I hate we lost and am pissed about the wasted opportunities, but go have a beer. Smile. We got the Egg.

I would be concerned- except for a story I heard about Keith Hernandez doing three lines of coke in the clubhouse and then getting three hits against the Giants. That pretty much convinced me that beer and drugs don't affect players.

[berr6728]

Todd your assertion does not make sense. I did not say or insinuate that we only build new stadium if we sell it out every night, I said we will not improve our attendance by building a new stadium. Your second assertion is stupid as I did not say any thing about drawing well currently and a new stadium will not be any more confortabal than the one we have now, our administration will cut back to point of not letting that happen. Recruiting will not be any better, you have not talked to many of our recruits in last 4 to 6 years or you would not say that. It is not always the stadium that attracts recruits, but the atmosphere and you will not improve on our atmosphere by building a new stadium.

[MarketingBully01]

There was also a Major League player who threw a no hitter on acid. He dropped a hit of acid because he thought he had the day off that day but it turned out he was starting that day. Talk about a wild ride.

[Todd4State]

I agree 100% Todd with what you are saying. He values experience and I get that but that trait has bit him in the ass with this year's team with Rea and Detz and others. I think Cohen is a great coach and will win a national championship at MSU before he retires. I think this season is an anomaly and the 2013 season will be the norm. I think this year is a good example of what can happen when a team doesn't have great senior leadership.

There definitely comes a point in time where you have to say- OK, this guy is a freshman/rookie, but he's better than the veteran.

Based on the recent video- I don't know that Rea is such a bad leader after all. But I do think that we have guys trying to do too much- and that is probably why some guys have struggled like those two that you mentioned. Of course, performance could be argued to be a part of leadership. So, from that point you could say that he's not a great leader.

Like tonight- we get the bases loaded with no one out, and we have our three small contact hitting outfielders coming up. All they had to do was put the ball in play and odds are something good would happen. But at the very least, Cody Brown's swing gets big because he tried to do too much and he expands the zone and strikes out. And then the next two guys do the same thing. We have too many guys that get greedy and get away from what works- and then it bites them in the ass. And I think that's why we struggle in situational hitting so much. Guys trying to do too much. When we just try to hit line drives, we do fine.

As far as this season being an anomaly, I agree just because if we had a decent catcher we are probably hosting. It's not like we are God awful horrible. But we're not good enough to get away with a ton of mistakes either.

[Todd4State]

Todd your assertion does not make sense. I did not say or insinuate that we only build new stadium if we sell it out every night, I said we will not improve our attendance by building a new stadium. Your second assertion is stupid as I did not say any thing about drawing well currently and a new stadium will not be any more confortabal than the one we have now, our administration will cut back to point of not letting that happen. Recruiting will not be any better, you have not talked to many of our recruits in last 4 to 6 years or you would not say that. It is not always the stadium that attracts recruits, but the atmosphere and you will not improve on our atmosphere by building a new stadium.

Well, you said our attendance wouldn't get any better. I could only assume that you meant it wasn't worth it because we are drawing well already. What I can tell you is we are NOT going to lose attendance by building a new stadium.

You sit in the boxes- which is probably the nicest part of the ballpark. Dudy-Noble has a LOT of areas that are very uncomfortable for fans to watch the game.

I'm not a huge Scott Stricklin fan- but MSU under his tenure has always done a good job with the facilities. I have no reason to believe he wouldn't do a good job with one of our most visible sports.

Our atmosphere will improve with a new stadium. The LFL is going to stay. It's going to be as good as it has ever been.

There are a lot of things that go into recruiting. And if we can improve an aspect of that, we should do it.

[Todd4State]

There was also a Major League player who threw a no hitter on acid. He dropped a hit of acid because he thought he had the day off that day but it turned out he was starting that day. Talk about a wild ride.

I think that was Dock Ellis.

[TheRef]

I think that was Dock Ellis.

Wasn't he legitimately having a conversation with the ball before every pitch?

[DudyDawg]

If building a new facility means nothing and it's all atmosphere to recruits, then why have Oregon and Alabama multi millions on the locker rooms and lounges alone? And yet again, in regards to Cohen, I ask, how many coaches in any sport at this school gone to the natty? One "bad" year and y'all freak out. We have made mistakes but damn we are what, fourth in the SEC? Still can win it? I appreciate the 54 years of support, that's longer than my life, but damn, it's not that bad!

[DudyDawg]

Meant that those schools have spent that (football) and as much as we (me) cuss our players that's a complete overreaction. There are some players I may hate seeing fail over and over but damn fire Cohen? Calm down

[Todd4State]

Wasn't he legitimately having a conversation with the ball before every pitch?

I think you are thinking about Mark The Bird Fidyrich. I think he was just a goofball. He had one good year and then he never did much after that.

[Todd4State]

If building a new facility means nothing and it's all atmosphere to recruits, then why have Oregon and Alabama multi millions on the locker rooms and lounges alone? And yet again, in regards to Cohen, I ask, how many coaches in any sport at this school gone to the natty? One "bad" year and y'all freak out. We have made mistakes but damn we are what, fourth in the SEC? Still can win it? I appreciate the 54 years of support, that's longer than my life, but damn, it's not that bad!

Firing Cohen is ludicrous at this point.

Ron Polk left one season after getting us to Omaha in 2007- but some people may have forgotten that he chose to resign. He wasn't fired. And as badass as Greg Byrne is, I have no doubt in my mind that Byrne would have given him one more year to turn it around. Polk might have gotten himself on the hot seat- but Byrne wouldn't have fired him. And as much as I wanted Polk gone, I would have totally understood keeping him around one more year.

One year after going to Omaha, Cohen has us at worst as a 3 seed which is what would happen if we crap out these final five games. And likely a 2 seed. We'll see what the postseason holds for us, but there is no reason to fire Cohen.

We have a glaring hole at catcher right now- and that will be fixed by next year. Our pitching is solid- 1 earned run tonight and we came darn close to shutting out Auburn for an entire series on the road. Our defense is very good- I think it's the best in the SEC, and yes our official scorer is part of that, but still..., and our hitting is not that bad when our guys stay within themselves.

[bgdog]

There was also a Major League player who threw a no hitter on acid. He dropped a hit of acid because he thought he had the day off that day but it turned out he was starting that day. Talk about a wild ride.

Narrated by the pitcher, pretty great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vUhSYLRw14

[engie]

the attendance figures are based on season ticket sales and walk ups each game, not acual attendance. You can figure that we have 5000 season tickets sales and 1000 walk up sales, so new stadium will get same attendance. Economics does not support what you koolaid drinkers think.

So, we sell 5000 season tickets in a 4300 seat stadium -- and you think we're maxed out in that regard? Lulz...

[engie]

Todd your assertion does not make sense. I did not say or insinuate that we only build new stadium if we sell it out every night, I said we will not improve our attendance by building a new stadium. Your second assertion is stupid as I did not say any thing about drawing well currently and a new stadium will not be any more confortabal than the one we have now, our administration will cut back to point of not letting that happen. Recruiting will not be any better, you have not talked to many of our recruits in last 4 to 6 years or you would not say that. It is not always the stadium that attracts recruits, but the atmosphere and you will not improve on our atmosphere by building a new stadium.

To be a baseball fan for so long -- you don't know a damn thing about the game. Don't know much about logistics period -- for that matter.