Game 2 Thread

[Will James]

Brown
Detz
Pirtle
Collins
Bradford
Heck
Vickerson
Rea
Britton

[BeardoMSU]

No Armstrong or Hendo? Hmmm....

[MarketingBully01]

Because they are starting a RH pitcher. Notice Vick back in the lineup. Personally, I would not play Vick and either play Armstrong or Hendu no matter what but that is just my opinion.

[rcsteph1]

Just personal preference, I would rather have DA or Hendu instead of Vick. With that being said I hope he makes me eat my words

[nsvltndog]

RPI moved from 34 to 31 with the game 1 win. Let's get another W in game 2.

[MarketingBully01]

Mitchell gets out of a jam in the first with two on and one out. We got a double play to get out of it. Going to the bottom of the first 0-0.

[MarketingBully01]

Two on one out for Collins.

[MarketingBully01]

They get a double play to get out of the inning....going to the top of the second 0-0.

[MarketingBully01]

Nice double play by us and 2 outs and no one on now...

[MarketingBully01]

Ross gets a strike out and A&M strands one. Going to the bottom of the second, scoreless 0-0.

[MarketingBully01]

So LH hitters are hitting .206 against this guy and RH hitters are hitting .276. Why go with the matchups if the guy has more success against what you are trying to match up against? Bad scouting IMO by Cohen here. Heck gets a base hit. One on and one out.

[MarketingBully01]

Vick flys out (go figure) and now one on 2 outs.

[MarketingBully01]

Rea strikes out and we go to the top of the third 0-0.

[MarketingBully01]

Just an observation but when we go to this LH heavy group we just are not as good as our RH heavy lineup at the plate.

[MarketingBully01]

1-0 A&M

[MarketingBully01]

Two outs one on. Lankford got the hit to drive in their run. Two outs though.

[MarketingBully01]

We gotta give Mitchell some run support.

[MarketingBully01]

A&M gets a run going to the bottom of the third 1-0 A&M. We need some runs guys.

[MarketingBully01]

Britton gets a hit and the lead off man is on. Brown at the plate.

[MarketingBully01]

Ugh, Brown strikes out swinging. Would have left Heck as the lead off guy.

[MarketingBully01]

We are hitting and running ourselves out of good counts.

[MarketingBully01]

Britton out trying to steal second.

[MarketingBully01]

Next pitch, Detz gets a hit.

[Esmerelda Villalobos]

Britton was safe at 2nd. Should be tied up.

[Esmerelda Villalobos]

Wow we get boned by the ground rule double

[War Machine Dawg]

We are Em State. Ground rule double to keep the run from scoring? Damn. No luck at all.

[MarketingBully01]

Pirtle gets a ground rule double and runners at second and third with two outs.

[maroonmania]

Crap, we have to be the unluckiest team around. 2 out double in the gap costs us a run by bouncing over the wall.

[Esmerelda Villalobos]

2 singles and a double and we will get nothing.

[maroonmania]

3 hits in the inning including a double and ZERO runs. Geez.

[War Machine Dawg]

Predictably, Collins grounds out to end the inning. Damn. Gotta give aTm credit for shading him up the middle, though.

[MarketingBully01]

Ugh, Collins grounds out strands two. Going to the 4th 1-0 A&M.

[MarketingBully01]

We should get to their guy soon. We are already hitting him pretty well just have been unlucky.

[MarketingBully01]

Freshman mistake made a single a double right there. Not good.

[MarketingBully01]

Mitchell isn't sharp tonight.

[MarketingBully01]

Nice play by Britton and two outs.

[MarketingBully01]

Mitchell already at 70+ pitches catchers interference puts two on and two out.

[MarketingBully01]

Ground ball gets us out of the top of the fourth. Going to the bottom of the 4th down 1-0.

[War Machine Dawg]

Mitchell gets the ground out to end it, no damage done. He's thrown a tone of pitches, though.

[rcsteph1]

Alright Let's get some timely hits!

[MarketingBully01]

Cohen over thinks and over manages. Why move Heck down to 7th when he was really being effective on the lead off spot. Also the fact that Lefthanders are hitting .206 against this guy should tell us not to put this left hand heavy lineup out there.

[MarketingBully01]

Two at bats two fly outs for Vick. 1-2-3 inning 1-0 A&M going to the fifth.

[MarketingBully01]

We need to go more with the lineup we had in the first game. This whole sale switching has not been effective.

[MarketingBully01]

Shit, A&M up 2-0 now on a myriad of errors.

[MarketingBully01]

With our lineup, 3-4 runs may beat us.

[MarketingBully01]

This is a perfect storm for this game, Mitchell not pitching effectively and we are sleep walking through this one at the plate.

[BeardoMSU]

4-0 A&M. Ross getting yanked.

[Esmerelda Villalobos]

Ballgame

[MarketingBully01]

I'm done doing play by play 4-0 A&M someone want to take over?

[MarketingBully01]

Gentry???? Really?

[maroonmania]

Looks like this one is just about over.

[MarketingBully01]

Our biggest mistake was using a LH heavy lineup against a pitcher who LH hitters hit .206 against. We have the first game lineup and this is a different ball game. That match up shit only works if the stats back you up on that pitcher.

[BeardoMSU]

5-0...........Jesus

[MarketingBully01]

5-0 A&M.

[MarketingBully01]

What did we expect. We have Gentry in. How many runs has he allowed in with runners on? Every time I have seen him pitch, he has allowed every runner in. The only time I saw him pitch lights out was USC in the. SEC tourney. That is it.

[MarketingBully01]

4 freaking runs that inning. 5-0 A&M going to bottom of 5th. We can still win it if we start getting the lefties out of the lineup.

[MarketingBully01]

This guy against lefties .206 against righties .276. Who was it that was supposed to look at these state before running that lineup out there?

[HoopsDawg]

Cohen over thinks and over manages.

This point isn't debatable. At this point in the year, we need to have a lineup settled. I'm ok with playing matchups to a certain extent, but not juggling the entire batting order. Pretty stupid.

[MarketingBully01]

This point isn't debatable. At this point in the year, we need to have a lineup settled. I'm ok with playing matchups to a certain extent, but not juggling the entire batting order. Pretty stupid.

I agree but we fell right into their trap there. By doing this matchup lineup, we nullified ourselves completely.

[MarketingBully01]

Base hit by Detz gets us one run 5-1 A&M.

[MarketingBully01]

Pirtle with a hit 5-2 A&M 2 on and one out. Collins up.

[MarketingBully01]

Collins popped up two down with two on. Bradford up.

[Quaoarsking]

Can we quit with the stupid "Ballgame" posts in baseball threads? How many times have we seen comebacks with our team and others?

[maroonmania]

Collins so far with a bad night at the plate.

[MarketingBully01]

Bradford swings away at 3-1 grounds out. Going to top of the sixth 5-2 A&M

[HoopsDawg]

I agree but we fell right into their trap there. By doing this matchup lineup, we nullified ourselves completely.

Well, we had won 6 games in a row and we completely shuffle the lineup. Armstrong is batting .340 in SEC games, Vick is batting .230 in conference. There is no reason to bench Armstrong. Absolutely no reason.

[MarketingBully01]

We need Gentry to go as long as he can.

[MarketingBully01]

Well, we had won 6 games in a row and we completely shuffle the lineup. Armstrong is batting .340 in SEC games, Vick is batting .230 in conference. There is no reason to bench Armstrong. Absolutely no reason.

I agree and the way Brown has played it might have been better to play Henderson as well. I know Brown hit a HR in the first game but he has struggled this one as well.

[MarketingBully01]

We need to get Mingden out of there this next inning and get to their bull pen.

[MarketingBully01]

Nice inning by Gentry and nothing doing for A&M. 5-2 A&M going to bottom of the 6th.

[rcsteph1]

Let's go! Rally

[MarketingBully01]

Sit Vick, 3 Fly outs. This is getting rediculous.

[MarketingBully01]

Rea with a two out double. Let's get him home.

[MarketingBully01]

Nothing doing in the sixth, going to the 7th with A&M up 5-2.

[HoopsDawg]

Sit Vick, 3 Fly outs. This is getting rediculous.

Yeah, it's just mindboggling. All b/c he is a lefty vs a righty.

[MarketingBully01]

Can we quit with the stupid "Ballgame" posts in baseball threads? How many times have we seen comebacks with our team and others?

Yeah, with a different lineup then we have now. The only way we come back is getting that pitcher out of the game. He is basically bottling us up at the plate because we put 6 left handed bats in the lineup. This is a different game with Armstrong and Henderson in the game and the same batting order we had in the first game.

[coastratdog]

I thank the people who have access to the game and keeping me updated. But, may I request more play by play posting and less commentary. Just post the action. We can arm chair Cohen and the players after the game.

[MarketingBully01]

Another great inning for Myles, nothing doing for A&M in the 7th. Going to the bottom of the 7th A&M 5-2.

[MarketingBully01]

I thank the people who have access to the game and keeping me updated. But, may I request more play by play posting and less commentary. Just post the action. We can arm chair Cohen and the players after the game.

Not a problem, it's just frustrating because we didn't put the best lineup out there to beat this guy. He is 2-6 overall with a 4+ ERA and he has shut us down because of the obvious that I have been mentioning.

[MarketingBully01]

Lefttie in now. We may see whole sale subs the other way.

[MarketingBully01]

Lead off walk to start the inning. We may have a chance now.

[MarketingBully01]

Bad called third strike on Detz one out one on.

[MarketingBully01]

Pirtle doubles and runners at second and third one out.

[Esmerelda Villalobos]

Bad call on detz and first pitch to pirtle is money but called a ball?

[rcsteph1]

Get these two in.

[Esmerelda Villalobos]

Cant figure out this umps strike zone

[blacklistedbully]

I thank the people who have access to the game and keeping me updated. But, may I request more play by play posting and less commentary. Just post the action. We can arm chair Cohen and the players after the game.

Hell with that. This is not a thread made for any specific person or simply to supply updates, it's the main discussion board for the game. I like the additional commentary.

[MarketingBully01]

Sac fly for Collins A&M up now 5-3.

[MarketingBully01]

Bradford strikes out. Going to the top of the 8th, A&M up 5-3. I would pinch hit for Vick next inning.

[Dallas_Dawg]

Bradford strikes out. Going to the top of the 8th, A&M up 5-3. I would pinch hit for Vick next inning.
Surely he will let Armstrong or Henderson have a chance toget things going for us

[MarketingBully01]

Yeah this ump's strike zone is all over the place.

[MarketingBully01]

Gentry playing really well. Nothing doing for A&M going to the bottom of the 8th A&M 5-3

[MarketingBully01]

If Cohen has any sense, Vick doesn't grab a bat this inning.

[MarketingBully01]

Lead off single for Heck.

[MarketingBully01]

Humphreys batting for Vickerson.

[MarketingBully01]

Humphreys gets to first on a fielders choice one out.

[MarketingBully01]

Henderson pinch running for Humphreys.

[MarketingBully01]

Rea flys out two outs one on.

[MarketingBully01]

Ugh, Britton flys out and going to the ninth, A&M 5-3.

[MarketingBully01]

If we lose this game, it's on Cohen for his dumbassery Match-ups lineup.

[MarketingBully01]

This ump's plate is very inconsistent.

[MarketingBully01]

Lead off guy on for A&M.

[MarketingBully01]

Runner bunted to second. One down.

[MarketingBully01]

Wild pitch gets runner to third.

[MarketingBully01]

Intentional walk to Lankford and runners at the corners with one out.

[MarketingBully01]

Vance Tatum in for Gentry.

[Dawg61]

Cohen is a damn moron with these constant lineup changes

[MarketingBully01]

Shit 6-3 A&M

[MarketingBully01]

Boy that ump really is tightening the strike zone too. Another wild pitch moves runners up.

[Bucky Dog]

Have we had the same lineup two games in a row this year?

[RougeDawg]

Cohen is a damn moron with these constant lineup changes

No, he's a moron for putting another runner on base when down 2.

[MarketingBully01]

Tatum gets a much needed strike out. 2 outs now.

[MarketingBully01]

Tatum gets out of the inning but we have a lot to make up in the bottom of the ninth, 6-3 A&M.

[Bucky Dog]

I'm all for platooning a little but get guys in the lineup on a regular basis and hitting and playing in the same position to develop consistency.

[MarketingBully01]

No, he's a moron for putting another runner on base when down 2.

I'll tell you what. We play that lineup In the first game and we score more then 3 runs and we get to him early and this is a much different game.

[MarketingBully01]

Armstrong flies out one down and we are down to our last two outs.

[MarketingBully01]

Detz strikes out down to our last out.

[MarketingBully01]

Ball game, Pirtle strikes out. We lose 6-3.

[Coach34]

Thanks MB and others for getting this tonight. I had T-ball and I know others had crap going on

Got to respond and take the series tomorrow. Must win

[MarketingBully01]

Biggest difference in this game was having Brown lead off and Vick in the lineup. Brown had a huge mistake in the field that a player stretched a single into a double and didn't do well at the plate in the second game. Who knows, Henderson might have caught that ball. That runner scored the first run.

Vick went 0-3 enough said there. Cohen out coaches out thought himself and lost us this game.

[MarketingBully01]

Thanks MB and others for getting this tonight. I had T-ball and I know others had crap going on

Got to respond and take the series tomorrow. Must win

Not a problem. Was frustrating to watch because Cohen put a lineup in doomed to struggle. That Right Hand pitcher - LH batters hit 207 against and RH batters hit .276 against. He followed suit again today. Just poor scouting in my opinion. Hopefully the guy they have going tomorrow is a leftie. Rant off.

[Homedawg]

Collins so far with a bad night at the plate.

Were you watching the game or reading the posts? He hit two very hard hit balls in his first two ab's. For that matter we hit a ton of hard hit balls all night. And only a couple that were routine that found holes.

[Todd4State]

Not a problem. Was frustrating to watch because Cohen put a lineup in doomed to struggle. That Right Hand pitcher - LH batters hit 207 against and RH batters hit .276 against. He followed suit again today. Just poor scouting in my opinion. Hopefully the guy they have going tomorrow is a leftie. Rant off.

The four run inning that we allowed hurt us much more than the lineup. Ross was off tonight, and Collins was off tonight. Lindgren struggling in game one came back to haunt us because it took out both him and Holder in game two. Good things happen when we play Cody Brown, but we should sit Vickerson for now.

I'd be interested to know what our LH hitters do against RH pitching because there are two sides to every story and in a game one side is going to turn out the way the stats project in this case and the opposite for the other side.

[Homedawg]

Biggest difference in this game was having Brown lead off and Vick in the lineup. Brown had a huge mistake in the field that a player stretched a single into a double and didn't do well at the plate in the second game. Who knows, Henderson might have caught that ball. That runner scored the first run.

Vick went 0-3 enough said there. Cohen out coaches out thought himself and lost us this game.

Henderson might have caught what ball? When did brown misplay a flyball? I was there the whole game, if he did, I must've had my head turned.

[Homedawg]

Not a problem. Was frustrating to watch because Cohen put a lineup in doomed to struggle. That Right Hand pitcher - LH batters hit 207 against and RH batters hit .276 against. He followed suit again today. Just poor scouting in my opinion. Hopefully the guy they have going tomorrow is a leftie. Rant off.
It was so doomed to struggle that we might have hit it better tonight than we have in any of the last 7 games as far as hard solid contact.

[Todd4State]

Henderson might have caught what ball? When did brown misplay a flyball? I was there the whole game, if he did, I must've had my head turned.

Demarcus screws up at least twice as much as Cody in general. Cody will make a freshman mistake every now and then. Demarcus will hit into a double play at the worst time possible, bunt the ball to the wrong side, hit a double, and strikeout. Some of his mistakes are more noticeable than others.

[Coach34]

It was so doomed to struggle that we might have hit it better tonight than we have in any of the last 7 games as far as hard solid contact.

Britton's groundout to SS was scorched

[Will James]

Seems many others are questioning "the best coach in college baseball" as well now.

Mediocre game day coach The Recruiter is.

[MarketingBully01]

It was so doomed to struggle that we might have hit it better tonight than we have in any of the last 7 games as far as hard solid contact.

We screwed with the lineup. Fine, leave Cody in because he does hit well but leave Heck as the lead off guy. Vickerson did nothing tonight. Absolutely nothing. Armstrong needs to start every game. Vickerson sits period. Put him in as a PH Lefthand bat if you want to go with matchups late in the game.

Todd, I was going by the fact that Jim Ellis and Bart Gregory were going on and on about how A&M's starting pitcher held left handed batters to .207 and was vulnerable to right handed batters at a .276 clip. So what do we do given those statistics? We load up our lineup with left handed batters. My point is the match up thing doesn't work for everyone all the time. This guy had a weird release and in his career has been more effective against lefties then righties even though he is a right handed pitcher. If Jim and Bart know this, surely Cohen and his staff knew this as well.

[Todd4State]

Seems many others are questioning "the best coach in college baseball" as well now.

Mediocre game day coach The Recruiter is.


Cardinals fans questioned LaRussa at times as well. It's just the nature of the beast.

[Todd4State]

We screwed with the lineup. Fine, leave Cody in because he does hit well but leave Heck as the lead off guy. Vickerson did nothing tonight. Absolutely nothing. Armstrong needs to start every game. Vickerson sits period. Put him in as a PH Lefthand bat if you want to go with matchups late in the game.

Todd, I was going by the fact that Jim Ellis and Bart Gregory were going on and on about how A&M's starting pitcher held left handed batters to .207 and was vulnerable to right handed batters at a .276 clip. So what do we do given those statistics? We load up our lineup with left handed batters. My point is the match up thing doesn't work for everyone all the time. This guy had a weird release and in his career has been more effective against lefties then righties even though he is a right handed pitcher. If Jim and Bart know this, surely Cohen and his staff knew this as well.

So, our own radio announcers were talking up the opponent? That's shocking.** Jim- "LSU really needs a double play ball- and they got it."

Again, that's only one side of the story.

If you have a RH pitcher that shuts down LH hitters, but you have LH hitters that hit RH pitchers well, which match-up do you go with? Or do you gamble with the RH hitters who don't hit RH pitching as well? If you do that and it doesn't work out, then you have people wondering why you didn't put the left hand hitters in. I'm just saying- it's not as cut and dried as you are making it out to be all the time. In this situation you're basically hoping that the odds are on your side.

Some people want to make baseball simply about plugging in numbers into an equation but it simply doesn't work like that all the time.

[MarketingBully01]

So, our own radio announcers were talking up the opponent? That's shocking.** Jim- "LSU really needs a double play ball- and they got it."

Again, that's only one side of the story.

If you have a RH pitcher that shuts down LH hitters, but you have LH hitters that hit RH pitchers well, which match-up do you go with? Or do you gamble with the RH hitters who don't hit RH pitching as well? If you do that and it doesn't work out, then you have people wondering why you didn't put the left hand hitters in. I'm just saying- it's not as cut and dried as you are making it out to be all the time. In this situation you're basically hoping that the odds are on your side.

I get what you are saying Todd and I respect your opinion because you certainly know more baseball then I do. It did seem like we struggled even though we did out hit them. Vickerson should not have played and if Heck is hitting lead off and you put Brown in Heck's spot odds are good we put a couple of more runs across the plate. I guess my main argument is our lineup was doing fine yesterday without all of the drastic shuffling which means adjusting at least 1/3 of it to get 6 left handed bats in the lineup.

[Coach34]

Seems many others are questioning "the best coach in college baseball" as well now.

Mediocre game day coach The Recruiter is.

C/mon dude- we havent been one of the 4 most talented teams in the SEC during Cohen's tenure- yet we have had top 4 results. Cohen does some off the wall shit- but it works alot.

[mparkerfd20]

I fully expect to lose tomorrow.

[Todd4State]

I get what you are saying Todd and I respect your opinion because you certainly know more baseball then I do. It did seem like we struggled even though we did out hit them. Vickerson should not have played and if Heck is hitting lead off and you put Brown in Heck's spot odds are good we put a couple of more runs across the plate. I guess my main argument is our lineup was doing fine yesterday without all of the drastic shuffling which means adjusting at least 1/3 of it to get 6 left handed bats in the lineup.

One more timely hit and we get at least 5 runs. I can agree on Vickerson because he's just not playing all that well right now for whatever reason.

[Todd4State]

C/mon dude- we havent been one of the 4 most talented teams in the SEC during Cohen's tenure- yet we have had top 4 results. Cohen does some off the wall shit- but it works alot.

I can't wait to see what he can do with top four type talent.

[bgdog]

Seems many others are questioning "the best coach in college baseball" as well now.

Mediocre game day coach The Recruiter is.

Can't we just like skip ahead a few years to where you create your own board and leave this one. I've seen this play out before.

[Will James]

C/mon dude- we havent been one of the 4 most talented teams in the SEC during Cohen's tenure- yet we have had top 4 results. Cohen does some off the wall shit- but it works alot.

When? When does the obvious WTF shit work? We always point the BS out and we always point out how it fails. Yesterday's first inning a prime example. He goes against the odds too many damn times. He can recruit top 4 indeed no doubt. Butch can coach them pitchers up top four for sure. But in-game managerial results are less than stellar from what I've seen.

[Dawg61]

The top 6 hitters in a lineup really shouldn't be messed with constantly on a game to game basis. Especially the lead off guy and 3-5. Cohen leaves about three guys in the same spots it seems like and the other six he's constantly platooning or moving up and down in the order. If we win stop ****ing with the lineup the next game. Simple as that. It's really stupid to be using multiple guys in the leadoff spot. Cohen is a very advanced coach in some ways but he's worse than the 12 year olds travel team coach in others. We were about to blow the damn doors off in the 1st inning Thursday and Cohen is sacrifice bunting. Wtf?! That's just insanely dumb. We GAVE aTm the first two outs in what should of been a back breaking 5-6 run inning. Then Cohen completely changes up that lineup today. Stupid. No other way to put it. Glad we've got Cohen as our coach but he's really gotta quit with the dumb shit. Let the players PLAY and stop "managing" to **** it up every game. Stand out of their damn way. Cohen gets in the way multiple times every single game.