"starting to hit" Detz goes 0-12 this weekend

[Coach34]

he is now 6-40 in the last 4 SEC series for a whopping .150

Britton is 5-16 in the last 2 series- .313

[msstate7]

Wonder if detz and rea platoon now according to lefty/righty pitcher.

[mic]

Yep I was the first to say few weeks back before Detz had 100 AB to let him try and hit his way out of it. Well he hasn't..
And Yeah I agree maybe the righty/lefty with Rea is the way to go...
Its not even a debate now with Britton. if he can even hit a little there is no way he doesn't play 3rd.
Big league 3rd baseman in the field..

[C222]

he is now 6-40 in the last 4 SEC series for a whopping .150

Britton is 5-16 in the last 2 series- .313

Why didn't you use the last 4 series for Britton? He was 0-10 against LSU and Ark.

[mic]

Why didn't you use the last 4 series for Britton? He was 0-10 against LSU and Ark.

ok. 5-26 is still better than 6-40
And on the defense side of the ball Britton might be the best in the SEC...

[Coach34]

ok. 5-26 is still better than 6-40
And on the defense side of the ball Britton might be the best in the SEC...

or we could just use the last 2 series for Detz where he is 3-23

[maroonmania]

or we could just use the last 2 series for Detz where he is 3-23

Between the way we treat Detz vs. the way we treat Armstrong, I'm convinced that what you accomplished last season as a player carries MUCH more weight that what you've accomplished the first 35 games of THIS season. We did finally give Rea some bench time but that took quite a while in itself. At this point I would be fine with even inserting Humphreys at 1st base if he continues to hit. I guess platooning Detz/Rea at 1st is an option as well as giving Garner a shot as well. I don't see how you can continue to just DH a guy though batting as poorly as Detz has this year.

[RAYn_Man]

Detz hit a lot of balls hard this weekend.

[Goat Holder]

Perfect example of how some posters use nothing but stats to form their opinions. The lack of knowledge is mind-boggling sometimes. I'm not saying that anybody should and or shouldn't play, I'd just like to see posters have their facts in line. Coach34 has been making this 'stat' mistake for years and he will continue to use it when it suits his agenda.

[Coach34]

What mistake am I making? I've been saying for weeks now Detz needed to be replaced. Please show me something that explains why we should keep Detz in the line-up? We're 2/3 they the season and he is batting .215

at what point is enough?

[Coach34]

I mean holy shit- I pointed out how he was struggling last week and needed to go. So what does he do? Responds by going 0-12

Sometimes facts just pinch you in the face. This is one of those times

[Goat Holder]

He may need to sit. I'm still on the fence. But he's making good contact, but the balls aren't falling. I'm simply pointing out that the numbers don't tell the whole story. It was especially fitting because you typically use certain 'sets' of stats to help you make your points. You've done it for years with Stans. All I'm saying, ALL I'm saying.....is that stats do not lie, but they don't tell the whole truth.

The intangible part of the game is just as important as the numbers, especially in college baseball. In addition to numbers, I also go by what I see out there on the field.

[mic]

He may need to sit. I'm still on the fence. But he's making good contact, but the balls aren't falling. I'm simply pointing out that the numbers don't tell the whole story. It was especially fitting because you typically use certain 'sets' of stats to help you make your points. You've done it for years with Stans. All I'm saying, ALL I'm saying.....is that stats do not lie, but they don't tell the whole truth.

The intangible part of the game is just as important as the numbers, especially in college baseball. In addition to numbers, I also go by what I see out there on the field.

I agreed with this a few weeks back. I said let him get 100 AB's and try to work his way out of his slump. that was like 5 weeks ago. He has actually gotten worse .Im not saying we shouldn't play him anymore, but not every game and for sure not in the 2 hole anymore. DH him some against RH pitchers, let him and Rea pluton at 1B, but get him out of the 2 hole and there is no way he should be back at 3B..

[Five-tool Poster]

I mean holy shit- I pointed out how he was struggling last week and needed to go. So what does he do? Responds by going 0-12

Sometimes facts just pinch you in the face. This is one of those times

What about Humphreys coach?

[dickiedawg]

Likelihood of Detz being benched this weekend is probably low. I could see him sitting tomorrow in favor of one of the freshmen and then hitting 7th or 8th this weekend. It's pretty amazing that Detz hasn't dropped in the order at all.

[Goat Holder]

Im not saying we shouldn't play him anymore, but not every game and for sure not in the 2 hole anymore. DH him some against RH pitchers, let him and Rea pluton at 1B, but get him out of the 2 hole and there is no way he should be back at 3B..

I'd be OK with this.

[Coach34]

What about Humphreys coach?

I definitely want him swinging vs a LHP

[Tbonewannabe]

Somebody put up some stats on sixpack and it showed Detz is 5th on the team in OBP in SEC play. He was also 1st in RBIs in SEC play. Not sure if that is accurate but last year Detz was very good in getting on base. He seems to put the ball in play but I still wonder if we should just put Humphries at first. If Britton can just get to decent (he has hit better lately) that would help because he is fantastic in the field and he can run.

[ScoobaDawg]

Somebody put up some stats on sixpack and it showed Detz is 5th on the team in OBP in SEC play. He was also 1st in RBIs in SEC play. Not sure if that is accurate but last year Detz was very good in getting on base. He seems to put the ball in play but I still wonder if we should just put Humphries at first. If Britton can just get to decent (he has hit better lately) that would help because he is fantastic in the field and he can run.

Detz is 6th in OBP in Conference ONLY Games , and has 11 RBI's which is 1st
http://www.nmnathletics.com/fls/16800/stats/bb/2014/teamcume.htm#TEAM.MLC

Player avg ab r h 2b 3b hr rbi tb slg% bb hbp so gdp ob% sf sh po a e fld%
Cody Walker 0.5 2 0 1 0 0 0 1 1 0.5 1 0 0 0 0.667 0 0 6 0 1 0.857
Brett Pirtle 0.338 68 11 23 3 0 1 5 29 0.426 6 4 5 0 0.413 2 1 24 62 2 0.977
Gavin Collins 0.333 39 2 13 6 0 0 5 19 0.487 2 1 7 2 0.381 0 2 68 6 0 1
Derrick Armstrong 0.339 59 6 20 0 0 0 6 20 0.339 4 0 12 1 0.364 3 0 27 2 0 1
Seth Heck 0.242 66 11 16 4 0 0 10 20 0.303 8 5 8 1 0.363 1 3 23 63 2 0.977
Alex Detz 0.231 65 8 15 2 0 1 11 20 0.308 11 1 11 1 0.346 1 0 26 3 0 1
Opponents 0.269 639 81 172 27 4 4 70 219 0.343 50 21 130 9 0.338 10 9 488 188 23 0.967
Totals 0.253 608 77 154 26 1 2 73 188 0.309 63 13 114 10 0.331 10 16 489 212 16 0.978
C.T. Bradford 0.279 43 2 12 3 0 0 8 15 0.349 2 1 4 0 0.326 0 1 24 0 0 1
Demarcus Henderson 0.235 34 2 8 1 0 0 3 9 0.265 4 0 7 1 0.316 0 2 17 0 1 0.944
Cody Brown 0.231 26 5 6 2 1 0 3 10 0.385 3 0 11 0 0.31 0 2 11 0 0 1
Reid Humphreys 0.25 12 1 3 1 0 0 3 4 0.333 1 0 2 0 0.308 0 0 0 1 1 0.5
Matthew Britton 0.179 39 10 7 1 0 0 4 8 0.205 6 1 10 0 0.304 0 0 7 27 4 0.895
Jake Vickerson 0.232 56 10 13 1 0 0 1 14 0.25 6 0 8 0 0.302 1 3 20 1 0 1
Zack Randolph 0.207 29 3 6 0 0 0 5 6 0.207 3 0 4 0 0.273 1 1 52 7 2 0.967
Wes Rea 0.18 61 5 11 2 0 0 8 13 0.213 6 0 18 4 0.25 1 0 168 6 1 0.994

[Will James]

Scoobadawg says I don't know much, and then uses RBI's....

[Coach34]

you can spin it different ways and try to come up with this or that- but the bottom line is that Detz has had 6 hits in his last 11 SEC ballgames. That's not good enough for an average defender. I rather Humphreys bat and get experience

[Tbonewannabe]

you can spin it different ways and try to come up with this or that- but the bottom line is that Detz has had 6 hits in his last 11 SEC ballgames. That's not good enough for an average defender. I rather Humphreys bat and get experience

I agree. I don't think Detz brings any more than Humphries does right now but Reid will be here next year.

[ScoobaDawg]

Scoobadawg says I don't know much, and then uses RBI's....

I didn't use rbi dipshit, I only posted the stats Tbone mentioned.

FYI, during that 6-40 stretch of 11 games, detz has also had an OBP of .323, Scored 7 runs, Had 8 RBI's (of the 44) , and 11 K's

It's not great but he is still getting on base and driving in runs. Just not getting base hits.