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Goat Holder
04-17-2014, 08:27 AM
.281, .278, .274, .258, .257, .253, .250, .234, .227

0.92, 2.16, 2.25, 3.01, 4.84

Jacksondevildog
04-17-2014, 08:28 AM
Batting averages and ERA's.***

#660000
04-17-2014, 08:33 AM
Your BAC% for the next nine days?

RAYn_Man
04-17-2014, 08:35 AM
Conference BA and ERA for our 9 starters at this point last year and five main pitchers?

ShotgunDawg
04-17-2014, 08:43 AM
.281, .278, .274, .258, .257, .253, .250, .234, .227

0.92, 2.16, 2.25, 3.01, 4.84

The batting averages of the Houston Astros lineup?

Goat Holder
04-17-2014, 08:44 AM
Close, but no. It's the BA of 2013 UCLA's top 9 hitters with significant playing time and ERA of the 5 pitchers with the most IP.

What it tells me? We hit better than the national champ, but we still can't win shit. Seems to me like our pitching/defense may very well be the culprit. But at the very least we're attempting to do what it takes to win the CWS. Just need to put it together.

Will James
04-17-2014, 10:20 AM
Close, but no. It's the BA of 2013 UCLA's top 9 hitters with significant playing time and ERA of the 5 pitchers with the most IP.

What it tells me? We hit better than the national champ, but we still can't win shit. Seems to me like our pitching/defense may very well be the culprit. But at the very least we're attempting to do what it takes to win the CWS. Just need to put it together.

Getting to the postseason requires a certain level of pitching. Teams that can hit make it to Omaha more than naught. I posted the numbers on SPS like 2 years ago talking about this.

HERE

The average team ERA of 2011 CWS teams was 2.69. Four of the top 5 teams in Team ERA made the CWS. A team with an ERA of 2.69 would have been the number 9th ranked team in that category in college baseball out of 281 teams.

The average team ERA last season was 3.22 which would have been 30th in college baseball. Again, out of 281 teams.

The average team batting average from 2011 CWS teams was .294 and .295 in 2012
That batting average would have been the 41st ranked team out of 281.


This tells me that when you get into the Super's and beyond every team will possess top notch pitching and the difference will be made at the plate putting up runs. We had those arms last year but lacked the difference makers hitting. Every contending staff is our staff, the bread is buttered at the plate.

Our progress thus far has been very good from where we were last year. As I've said though until a chunk of SEC games have been played I won't consider the source evidence solid. That is the caliber team that we will see in the NCAA's

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Since the BBCOR bats came about... Runs per game of CWS teams, and us

2011





Cal
333
61
5.46


UF
455
72
6.32


UNC
452
67
6.75


USC
419
69
6.07


TX
349
68
5.13


A&M
405
69
5.87


Vandy
459
66
6.95


Virginia
471
68
6.93








Mississippi St.
380
63
6.03














2012





Arizona
478
65
7.35


Arkansas
351
68
5.16


UF
393
67
5.87


FSU
459
67
6.85


Kent St
445
67
6.64


USC
351
69
5.09


Stony Brook
471
67
7.03


UCLA
394
64
6.16








Mississippi St.
287
64
4.48




We were right there in producing runs in 2011 and nearly made it to the CWS. Last year we were over half a run per game lower than the lowest CWS teams Arkansas and South Carolina. Both of those teams also had team ERA's below 3.00 but they could score. Look at the teams who "don't belong" Stony Brook and Kent State. How did they make it? 7.03 and 6.64 runs per game. Look at Samford who took us out in 2 games. In this format you have to score runs to advance. That is the variable. The last 2 champions have scored over 6 a game.
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Goat Holder
04-17-2014, 10:31 AM
I'm talking about winning the thing. And your numbers actually bear that out. 4 of the top 5 ERAs made the CWS? Sounds like you need good pitching to me. This:


We had those arms last year but lacked the difference makers hitting

....is not true. We had everything needed to win the national championship last year save for one thing: ONE MORE STARTING PITCHER.

And remember...it's not hitting vs. pitching. It's hitting vs. pitching/defense. Clutch hitting will always be needed. But stats don't show that.

Will James
04-17-2014, 10:43 AM
I'm talking about winning the thing. And your numbers actually bear that out. 4 of the top 5 ERAs made the CWS? Sounds like you need good pitching to me. This:



....is not true. We had everything needed to win the national championship last year save for one thing: ONE MORE STARTING PITCHER.

And remember...it's not hitting vs. pitching. It's hitting vs. pitching/defense. Clutch hitting will always be needed. But stats don't show that.


That quote was talking about the 2012 team. Post was made in 2013.