MSU vs UGA game 2 Thread..

[preachermatt83]

I like Mitchell starting

[preachermatt83]

fly ball to center by vick.

[preachermatt83]

The freshman Tyler is slinging HEAT!

[preachermatt83]

good hit ball by detz.. SS made a good play

[Will James]

Rea up with nobody on, two out***

[preachermatt83]

and Rea watches two pitches right down the middle of the plate.

[preachermatt83]

Rea up with nobody on, two out***

exactly why he needs to be hitting in the clean up spot or 5th.

[It_Could_Happen]

Hell yes. I love it when we watch first pitch fastballs RIGHT DOWN BROADWAY.

[messageboardsuperhero]

Rea needs to be more aggressive.

BTW, look at the UGA 1B- his foot comes off the bag before he catches the ball every time.

[MarketingBully01]

Yes and that is all he freaking has. One pitch no movement should be like BP.

[preachermatt83]

what was wrong with those first 2 pitches?

[Bucky Dog]

My issue still is all of the different lineups Cohen is throwing around. You have to set a pretty solid lineup and go with it to allow for the players to develop some chemistry and consistency. When you keep rotating guys in and out it creates pressure like they are fighting for a job each time out. I know technically each person is fighting for their job but if the coach sticks with you and shows confidence in the lineup he has then it really helps build momentum.

[preachermatt83]

walk the first batter.. not a good start but watch us get a dp here. #Mitchellspecial

[bully99]

Wouldn't be surprised to see Cohen get ejected in one of the games today. When things going bad, the coach gets tossed.

[preachermatt83]

awesome pitch! strikeout!

[MarketingBully01]

21 different lineups in 21 games is utterly rediculous.

[preachermatt83]

bad call.. he was out at 1st

[messageboardsuperhero]

He was ****ing out!

[preachermatt83]

2 down , runner on 1st

[preachermatt83]

I thought so too messageboard

[HancockCountyDog]

I'm sure everyone knows, but the game is on fox sports south.

[preachermatt83]

good inning Mitchell!!

[MarketingBully01]

He was out by half a step. Was a double play. Terrible umpiring and a home cooking call.

[preachermatt83]

I'm sure everyone knows, but the game is on fox sports south.

yup.. Trying to keep updates posted for those who may be away from the TV

[MarketingBully01]

Yes, thank God Mitchell shook off those bad ball calls on the first batter to come through fairly unscathed in the first inning.

[preachermatt83]

why is pirtle trying to bunt for a basehit?

[preachermatt83]

us watching first pitch strikes just drive me nuts

[preachermatt83]

wow.. what a catch by the cf

[MarketingBully01]

Making great contact on this guy like I thought we would given his one pitch repertoire.

[messageboardsuperhero]

We can't buy a break right now...

[preachermatt83]

this park plays so small

[preachermatt83]

crap... 3 up 3 down

[MarketingBully01]

Mitchell has to give us 7-8 good innings and allow maybe 1-2 runs for us to have a chance with this anemic lineup Cohen is putting out there.

[BLC]

My issue still is all of the different lineups Cohen is throwing around. You have to set a pretty solid lineup and go with it to allow for the players to develop some chemistry and consistency. When you keep rotating guys in and out it creates pressure like they are fighting for a job each time out. I know technically each person is fighting for their job but if the coach sticks with you and shows confidence in the lineup he has then it really helps build momentum.

This ...

[preachermatt83]

very good inning ross.. now we got to get our bats going

[MarketingBully01]

We need to play Armstrong over Brown.

[HancockCountyDog]

First team to 2 runs wins this game.

[messageboardsuperhero]

Britton crushed that one!

1-0 Dawgs

[bully99]

Stuff it you Britton haters

[MarketingBully01]

I stand corrected. Keep Britton in there! :)

[preachermatt83]

britton with a rbi double.. YES!!

[MarketingBully01]

You mean me. Yes, I will be quiet now...

[Will James]

Britton BABIP .167 coming in. He's due fo sho

[HailState39110]

Britton is the only smart one to realize this pitcher is going to throw a fast ball right down the middle on his first pitch.

[preachermatt83]

vickerson needs to come thru here. runner on 2nd with one out

[preachermatt83]

Britton is the only smart one to realize this pitcher is going to throw a fast ball right down the middle on his first pitch.
yup.. if rea would learn that he would smash one

[MarketingBully01]

Rea should be able to hit a HR on this guy easily.

[preachermatt83]

Vick with a single. runners on the corners for Detz

[preachermatt83]

Rea should be able to hit a HR on this guy easily.

yup, if he would jump on the first pitch

[MarketingBully01]

The kid is a freshman with one really good pitch a fastball with no movement.

[Will James]

The kid is a freshman with one really good pitch a fastball with no movement.

Dakota Hudson

[maroonmania]

Terrible baserunning by Britton there. Short line drive right over the top of 2nd base. Made no sense to go back to 2nd, should have scored easily.

[MarketingBully01]

If Detz can somehow get on with the bases loaded...

[messageboardsuperhero]

Dakota Hudson

I was just about to post the same thing- this is what it would look like if Hudson started a game for us.

ETA: With that said, I wouldn't mind him coming out of the pen after Mitchell for an inning or two as a change of pace.

[MarketingBully01]

He is not in our SEC rotation is he?

[preachermatt83]

I was just about to post the same thing- this is what it would look like if Hudson started a game for us.

ETA: With that said, I wouldn't mind him coming out of the pen after Mitchell for an inning or two as a change of pace.

very good idea

[engie]

He is not in our SEC rotation is he?

This is this kid's first weekend start for them...

[MarketingBully01]

Not too bad 3 spot right there. We just need to have Mitchell keep being Mitchell...

[maroonmania]

Apparently Detz has just been waiting on conference play to start hitting.

[preachermatt83]

Detz is coming around it seems.. Two run double. ... Rea is getting on my nerves! Weak ground ball

[messageboardsuperhero]

3-0 State thru 2 1/2. Detz and Britton with RBI doubles.

[Will James]

Apparently Detz has just been waiting on conference play to start hitting.

.210 BABIP coming in...

[MarketingBully01]

Of course, he is a true freshman and he is their best pitcher which is why he is starting this game.

[preachermatt83]

grounder to second... I love mitchell

[bully99]

I've had just about enough BAPIDS for today.

[messageboardsuperhero]

I love the old-school organ they have at Foley Field.

[Will James]

Seth MF Heck

[preachermatt83]

AWESOME PLAY by HECK!!

[Will James]

I've had just about enough BAPIDS for today.

Too bad drone. Mitchell keeps improving that SIERA with groundballs

[preachermatt83]

I love the old-school organ they have at Foley Field.

on this I disagree... I hate that.. I like the walkout songs!

[engie]

I love the old-school organ they have at Foley Field.

Agreed. How do we not have this at Dudy Noble?

[Coach34]

Britton is talented- if he can get the snakes out of his head- he could help us alot this year

[maroonmania]

People saying Heck doesn't have much range or doesn't have a strong arm just need to shutup.

[engie]

on this I disagree... I hate that.. I like the walkout songs!

They are still doing walkout songs for them. Organ is just between pitches and when we're hitting.

[Coach34]

Heck is our SS- that's been settled

[preachermatt83]

They are still doing walkout songs. Organ is just between pitches.

oh ok.. I can go with that then.. I was thinking is was like TD Ameritrade.

[bully99]

We had a real live organist at Dudy Noble for a couple of years after the new stadium was built. Not sure why they quit doing it.

[preachermatt83]

Heck is our SS- that's been settled

no doubt

[preachermatt83]

crap Bradford, get the bunt down

[Will James]

Attaboy CT. Beating the #buntfail

[preachermatt83]

single by ct ... Runners on first and second... no outs

[Coach34]

I hate bunting before the 7th inning

[preachermatt83]

I wish brown would take off those stupid sunglasses while he is hitting.

[preachermatt83]

two and 0 here.. don't bunt.

[engie]

Don't like the attempted sac bunt off a 4 pitch walk. Good piece of hitting with 2 strikes though.

[preachermatt83]

sac bunt by brown... runners at 2nd and 3rd with one out for Randolph

[preachermatt83]

I hope Randolph can prove me wrong here but I lack confidence in him right here.

[BrunswickDawg]

Anybody else think the play-by-play guy sounds like Gordon Solie?

[preachermatt83]

the one stupid thing you don't want to do right there.. geez.. get Collins in the game.

[MarketingBully01]

Crap at bat for Randolph.

[MarketingBully01]

Ugh, Britton quit hacking at balls!

[bully99]

Polk didn't bunt enough, Cohen does it too much

[preachermatt83]

UGA catcher is blocking em up

[preachermatt83]

wow, that was too close to watch

[bully99]

Back to hating on Britton.

[Will James]

You get a gift 2-2 Britton and then keep the bat on your shoulder 3-2.

Swing the damn bat!!!!!!

[preachermatt83]

and then watches one right down the middle with runners on 2nd and 3rd... Pitiful

[MarketingBully01]

And then Britton shows why his average is .176. With the bottom two hitters coming up, why bunt?

[maroonmania]

Man, we can sure waste some scoring opportunities. You could tell Britton, after the count went to 2-2 was only looking for the walk. Only thing that explains how you don't swing at that pitch he took looking.

[engie]

Sac bunting early is frigging stupid. For the amount it helps you get one run, it takes you out of a big inning. There is literally no point to it. 2 on no outs -- and we take ourselves right out of an inning again.

I'd love for someone to ask about their thought process on that -- based on the sabermetric realities of college ball...

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[messageboardsuperhero]

Runners on 1st and 2nd with no outs... And we score nothing.

I hate it when we bunt early in the game against a pitcher who's struggling- we need to attack him. And then bad ABs by Randolph and Britton.

[Will James]

Polk didn't bunt enough

Disagree

[MarketingBully01]

I agree Engie especially since we were depending on Randolph and Britton to bring them home. It would be different if the top of the order was getting them home.

[maroonmania]

And then Britton shows why his average is .176. With the bottom two hitters coming up, why bunt?

I agree, with the 8 and 9 hitters coming up there is no reason to give away an out.

[messageboardsuperhero]

This guy's strike zone is tight as hell.

[Coach34]

You get a gift 2-2 Britton and then keep the bat on your shoulder 3-2.

Swing the damn bat!!!!!!

never understood how someone can take that...I played from the time I 3 until I finished juco- and I can say I never took an inside fastball for strike 3. Not once

[preachermatt83]

what the crap was wrong with that pitch???

[Will James]

Sac bunting early is frigging stupid. For the amount it helps you get one run, it takes you out of a big inning. There is literally no point to it. 2 on no outs -- and we take ourselves right out of an inning again.

I'd love for someone to ask about their thought process on that -- based on the sabermetric realities of college ball...

Dayum quit talkin about the buuuunt** (Everyone to me in 2012)

Agreed that we dont question things in baseball to the coaches like other sports. Cohen never gets challenged it seems.

[preachermatt83]

never understood how someone can take that...I played from the time I 3 until I finished juco- and I can say I never took an inside fastball for strike 3. Not once

me either.. I couldn't if I would have wanted too. .my body wouldn't have let me. lol

[messageboardsuperhero]

Britton is a stud defender. I love him playing third when P. Brown and Mitchell pitch.

[Coach34]

if Detz is at 3rd- that's a hit

[preachermatt83]

Mitchell special.. DP!

[preachermatt83]

if Detz is at 3rd- that's a hit

agreed.

[bully99]

Polk never bunt. Early, late, close score, Never...

[engie]

Dayum quit talkin about the buuuunt** (Everyone to me in 2012)

Agreed that we dont question things in baseball to the coaches like other sports. Cohen never gets challenged it seems.

That's because you went dawg61 with your approach to it. I always agreed with your premise about about it -- just not the nature with which you constantly beat everyone over the head with it.

[preachermatt83]

Polk never bunt. Early, late, close score, Never...

I'd rather bunt too little than too much

[Coach34]

Polk never bunt. Early, late, close score, Never...

there are times for it- but never before the damn 7th inning- EVER

[preachermatt83]

Mitchell bout to get outta this jam with a gb... watch.

[engie]

never understood how someone can take that...I played from the time I 3 until I finished juco- and I can say I never took an inside fastball for strike 3. Not once

Yeah, I think I struck out a half dozen times looking period... maybe less. I was always way more likely to swing at a ball than to take a strike...

Of course, I was taught a 2 strike approach at the plate as well -- to spread out, choke up, and put it in play. Something Cohen rejects in the traditional sense...

[Will James]

That's because you went dawg61 with your approach to it. I always agreed with your premise about about it -- just not the nature with which you constantly beat everyone over the head with it.

I blame Cohen for the approach. Continued opportunities to bash. 26 in SEC play to be exact with 6 successful outcomes. I will never forget the mismanagement of that final game.

[messageboardsuperhero]

This ump is really squeezing us right now.

[preachermatt83]

this umpire sucks.

[MarketingBully01]

That ump is killing us.

[maroonmania]

This ump has a strike zone that is tighter than most I've seen in college but so far he has been very consistent with it.

[Coach34]

Yeah, I think I struck out a half dozen times looking period... maybe less. I was always way more likely to swing at a ball than to take a strike...

Of course, I was taught a 2 strike approach at the plate as well -- to spread out, choke up, and put it in play. Something Cohen rejects in the traditional sense...

I was a big boy- and a power guy. So I didnt get many of those with 2 strikes anyway. People would get me away or off speed CB down...elevated FB and slider away- that was my kryptonite

[messageboardsuperhero]

Atta boy Ross. Love Britton at 3rd defensively.

[maroonmania]

Big out there to get out of the jam!

[preachermatt83]

Mitchell bout to get outta this jam with a gb... watch.

toldt yal!!

[Will James]

Cox start tossing the ball around

[MarketingBully01]

Just play Britton at third and keep Detz at DH. If Detz is out there, UGA is up 4-3 right now.

[maroonmania]

If Britton would hit just a little it would be tough to keep him off of 3rd base. He seems to be much more comfortable there than at SS.

[MarketingBully01]

Their OF is saving them from being down by a whole lot more.

[Will James]

Rea up nobody on, two out***

[messageboardsuperhero]

We're crushing this guy right now. It should more than a 3-0 lead.

[preachermatt83]

vick is hitting too many fly balls right now.. I know that looked like he smoked that one but its a routine fly ball at dudy.

[engie]

Statistical likelihoods across college baseball(BBCOR era):
1st and 2nd no outs - avg 1.79 runs and score at least 1 71% of the time
2nd and 3rd 1 out - avg 1.56 runs and score at least 1 73% of the time

Across the country, there is basically no gain in doing that...

[Will James]

Rea takes SO MANY FASTBALLS

[preachermatt83]

the ump is not calling this both ways.

[Will James]

Statistical likelihoods across college baseball(BBCOR era):
1st and 2nd no outs - avg 1.79 runs and score at least 1 71% of the time
2nd and 3rd 1 out - avg 1.56 runs and score at least 1 73% of the time

Across the country, there is basically no gain in doing that...

And even LESS of a gain bunting one man over like we try to do all the damn time (less than 2012 for sure though)

[preachermatt83]

Rea is in a bad slump right now..

[MarketingBully01]

Rea let a ball go that if he had swung at wouldn't have come down yet. Man he is struggling.

[maroonmania]

there are times for it- but never before the damn 7th inning- EVER

To me its more about where you are in the lineup. To give away an out with non-RBI producing hitters coming up makes ZERO sense.

[preachermatt83]

To me its more about where you are in the lineup. To give away an out with non-RBI producing hitters coming up makes ZERO sense.

Bingo!

[engie]

And even LESS of a gain bunting one man over like we try to do all the damn time (less than 2012 for sure though)

Yep

[preachermatt83]

DP coming here... watch!

[messageboardsuperhero]

Atta boy Ross.

[Bothrops]

Is Collins hurt?

[preachermatt83]

Mitchell is amazing!!!

[preachermatt83]

Is Collins hurt?

he started last night

[Will James]

Rea is in a bad slump right now..

He has no approach at the plate whatsoever. Cant hit the outside fastball, gets jammed in. Move his ass down in the order

[MarketingBully01]

No we are playing a double header.

[preachermatt83]

he catches bracewell and I think fitts.

[Coach34]

To me its more about where you are in the lineup. To give away an out with non-RBI producing hitters coming up makes ZERO sense.

I just hate giving away outs unless it's tied or a 1 run game late.

[Will James]

First pitch popup Blah

[messageboardsuperhero]

That's the second ball that Heck has smoked today that got caught.

[preachermatt83]

heck of a play by the 3rd basemen there... Heck smoked that one.

[MarketingBully01]

We need at least 2-3 more runs for me to feel comfortable about this game.

[preachermatt83]

CT has taken some really lazy swings the last two days

[messageboardsuperhero]

This guy has quietly settled down and given UGA a quality start. We better keep holding their offense.

[preachermatt83]

I hope cohen leaves Ross as our Saturday starter. And hope he uses preston as either Fri or sunday and fitts the other.

[preachermatt83]

and I think gentry can step up and take ross's long relief spot after fitts.

[preachermatt83]

and lingo can be a solid long relief guy

[preachermatt83]

routine fly ball to end the inning.. Mitchell still dealing. 6 innings of scoreless ball

[Will James]

Brown with an approach at the plate. GREAT leadoff PA.

[Will James]

Brown with the SMART baserunning play. Awesome!

[messageboardsuperhero]

Great baserunning by Brown! He totally screwed with that second baseman.

[Will James]

NM

[preachermatt83]

come on britton.. this is big right here.. can't have a DP

[preachermatt83]

NM

no.. pitcher is stuggling.. don't give him an out.

[Will James]

come on britton.. this is big right here.. can't have a DP

I'd take one if we scored

[preachermatt83]

3-1.. get us a sac fly here

[Will James]

OH YEAH!!

[preachermatt83]

I'd take one if we scored

I would take it but id rather have that.. lol..

[messageboardsuperhero]

Great AB by Britton.

5-0 State in the top of the 7th.

[preachermatt83]

to me, britton has earned the starting 3rd base job today.. just my opinion.

[bully99]

Ok go ahead and love on Britton again

[maroonmania]

Britton making a bid to stay in the starting lineup at 3rd for sure.

[MarketingBully01]

Can Britton play 3rd permenately? I know I ragged on him but he has earned the start at 3rd today. Shit, he is the player of the game so far.

[Jacksondevildog]

You are right, but we will bench him in the third game.
to me, britton has earned the starting 3rd base job today.. just my opinion.

[Harrydawg]

Glad to see Britton doing well. Cohen is mighty high on him and i think he played tight early. He is a player!

[maroonmania]

For a guy with good speed Vickerson hits WAY too many fly balls.

[MarketingBully01]

Terrible at bat by Detz

[maroonmania]

Glad to see Britton doing well. Cohen is mighty high on him and i think he played tight early. He is a player!

I just think he may be more comfortable at 3rd. He looked bad at SS as a freshman as well. Was he tight then too? Maybe he's just always tight when playing that position.

[preachermatt83]

crap detz!

[Coach34]

Britton playing 3rd and batting .260 this year would make us a much better team. He will lock down 3rd defensively

[preachermatt83]

need a hit here pirtle.

[messageboardsuperhero]

This UGA pitcher looks tough on lefties, but struggles against righties.

6-0 State.

[MarketingBully01]

I'd like to see him around 300 myself. He has shown he can do it.

[preachermatt83]

whose missing from the non-conf roster?

[Coach34]

I'd like to see him around 300 myself. He has shown he can do it.

I would too- but I know he can hit .260...and that would be good enough for what he brings defensively. Anything past that is gravy

[maroonmania]

Is Fitts starting the 2nd game today?

[MarketingBully01]

More then likely.

[messageboardsuperhero]

Mitchell isn't laboring at all right now. Let's see how far he can go.

[preachermatt83]

there is no way CT was running that out... if so he is slow

[preachermatt83]

now what in the crap is brown doing squaring to bunt?

[Will James]

Can we get a two strike approach with this team?

[preachermatt83]

yea, so Derrick needs to be playing right.

[MarketingBully01]

I agree. Armstrong needs to play instead of Brown.

[messageboardsuperhero]

yea, so Derrick needs to be playing right.

Against lefties, perhaps. But Brown has played well and done a lot of the little things right today. I like Brown a lot.

[engie]

Can we get a two strike approach with this team?

Cohen seems to teach against it.

That actually seems to be a popular movement around baseball altogether. I don't know the reasons sabermetrically and haven't cared enough to research it, but have noticed the approach throughout MLB organizations in particular...

[preachermatt83]

unless something changes quick we are gonna have a ton left in the pen for game 3. Fitts will be on a VERY VERY short leash. You got Lingo, Cox, Gentry, and Holder.. there is no way we should lose final game. Now if I had to pull Mitchell here I'd go to Hudson. It would have to look like he is throwing 105 mph following Mitchell.

[preachermatt83]

what the crap was wrong with that pitch.

[preachermatt83]

wow

[preachermatt83]

1st base ump has missed two calls today.. that may have been a give back from early on.

[maroonmania]

Man, wish Ross would have left that one alone. Would have been an easy DP. Fortunate we got the call at 1st, not sure if he was out or not.

[MarketingBully01]

Actually the guy was out at first by half a step and if you want to get technical about it the guy jumped over first as well.

[preachermatt83]

if cohen sends Holder out for the 9th winning by 5 runs and a game left to go im just gonna have to disagree .

[preachermatt83]

Actually the guy was out at first by half a step and if you want to get technical about it the guy jumped over first as well.

no he wasn't .. no he didnt'

[MarketingBully01]

Whatever, I first thought he was safe but after the replay he was out. Why argue? He was out.

[preachermatt83]

Whatever, I first thought he was safe but after the replay he was out. Why argue? He was out.

yea, no doubt I'll take it. lol

[preachermatt83]

do work here derrick..

[preachermatt83]

hard hit ball there. Nice play.

[preachermatt83]

HUMPHRIES!!!! Go knock one out here!!

[preachermatt83]

crap

[MarketingBully01]

Mitchell should close it out if he can....then we have a full bullpen.

[messageboardsuperhero]

Ross Mitchell could pitch forever. He doesn't labor at all or put any stress on his arm.

[maroonmania]

Dang, looks like Ross could keep pitching into the 2nd game if we wanted. Incredible.

[Will James]

Cohen seems to teach against it.

That actually seems to be a popular movement around baseball altogether. I don't know the reasons sabermetrically and haven't cared enough to research it, but have noticed the approach throughout MLB organizations in particular...

K's are not as hurtful if you can jump the yard consistently. They are much much more hurtful when you are a singles only hitter.

Defense is much better in the pro's too which makes putting the ball in play at the college and HS levels more valuable

[preachermatt83]

I just really believe Ross is something special. He reminds me so much of Tom Glavine . I think he could be every bit as dominate for us as Nola and Beede are for Vandy and LSU

[It_Could_Happen]

That was the best pitching performance for us I've seen since Graveman @arky last year. They had no beat on Ross today.

[messageboardsuperhero]

K's are not as hurtful if you can jump the yard consistently. They are much much more hurtful when you are a singles only hitter.

Defense is much better in the pro's too which makes putting the ball in play at the college and HS levels more valuable

This.

You can K a lot in pro baseball and still be a good hitter. It's a lot harder to do that in college- where putting the ball in play is at a premium.

[engie]

This.

You can K a lot in pro baseball and still be a good hitter. It's a lot harder to do that in college- where putting the ball in play is at a premium.

I agree with all that...
But it seems pretty clear that Cohen isn't going to start teaching a 2 strike approach for us at this point. He never has. And I'd argue that 4 of the 5 teams have been pretty good offensive clubs, with this one too early to tell...

[Quaoarsking]

Is the other game also on FSN/ESPN3?