MSU basketball season stats brought to you by Coach 34 and Rick Ray

[bobcat91]

Steals-------------------------#3
Scoring Offense --------- #12
Scoring Margin ---------- #14
Free Throw % ----------- #12
FG % Defense ---------- #14
FG made---------------------#9
3PT % Made ------------- #14
3PTs Made --------------- #14
Total Rebounds-----------#14
Offensive Rebounding - #14
Rebounding margin ----- #14
Blocked Shots ------------ #14
Conference Wins----------#14

Yes, just a few more years and a few more mediocre players and we can work our way out of the SEC cellar and up to the 13th or maybe even the 12th worst team in the conference. Season tickets on the Titanic anyone?

[engie]

Yes, just a few more years and a few more mediocre players and we can work our way out of the SEC cellar and up to the 13th or maybe even the 12th worst team in the conference.

So, you think we're a couple years from being the second or third best team in the conference? Good to know**

[bobcat91]

With this hire, we will be lucky to ever break even

[Dawg61]

We are now 7-29 in the SEC under Ray. Do y'all realize how long it's going to take just to get back to .500 in the SEC now for Ray? It'd take eleven straight 10-8 seasons just to get back to an even record. Good ****ing grief.

[CadaverDawg]

We are now 7-29 in the SEC under Ray. Do y'all realize how long it's going to take just to get back to .500 in the SEC now for Ray? It'd take eleven straight 10-8 seasons just to get back to an even record. Good ****ing grief.

Ha, when you put it that way, it sounds even worse....and I didn't think it could be any worse.

[JohnnyQuid]

We are now 7-29 in the SEC under Ray. Do y'all realize how long it's going to take just to get back to .500 in the SEC now for Ray? It'd take eleven straight 10-8 seasons just to get back to an even record. Good ****ing grief.

That's just mind numbing.

[smootness]

We are now 7-29 in the SEC under Ray. Do y'all realize how long it's going to take just to get back to .500 in the SEC now for Ray? It'd take eleven straight 10-8 seasons just to get back to an even record. Good ****ing grief.

Why would that matter?

[shannondawg]

I can see why he keeps predicting we will be better. I can't believe he is not bragging about our #3 position in steals. Ignoring the rest.

[thf24]

Richard Williams started 9-27, guess we should have fired him after year two also. Really set our program back by not doing that.**

[Apoplectic]

Richard Williams started 9-27, guess we should have fired him after year two also. Really set our program back by not doing that.**

Yes let's reference a time when no one gave a crap about basketball. And congrats to Scott for returning us back to that time.

[shannondawg]

Coach could have had the job if he asked for it at that point in time. And now we would all be working second jobs just to be able save our money for travel to the final four every year. But was he old enough to sign a contract back then?

[TheDogFather]

Richard Williams started 9-27, guess we should have fired him after year two also. Really set our program back by not doing that.**

Bob Boyd was no Rick Stansbury

[thunderclap]

I don't even blame Ray. Was he supposed to turn down the job? Hell, I'm sure he was as surprised as everybody else when he was announced.

I think you see where I'm going.

[C222]

Why would that matter?

Haha...exactly. So, the goal is to get Ray's coaching record to .500? Add that to the list of awful posts made by Dawgs61.

[Coach34]

Richard Williams was 89-113 in the SEC at State. With an SEC title, 2 NIT's, a Sweet 16, and a Final Four

[whosyourdawgy]

Richard Williams was 89-113 in the SEC at State. With an SEC title, 2 NIT's, a Sweet 16, and a Final Four

And just for shits and giggles, when did Richard Williams start to win at MSU? Could it be when Rick Stansbury was brought on staff? Never in a million years could there be any coincidence.

[Coach34]

And just for shits and giggles, when did Richard Williams start to win at MSU? Could it be when Rick Stansbury was brought on staff? Never in a million years could there be any coincidence.

He started winning when that recruiting class that he and John Brady put together became Sr's. He had been to the NIT with them the year before when they were Jr's.

Where was the Stands effect in his 2nd and 3rd years as an asst???? We went 15-13 and 13-16. Point is- Williams won with the class he and Brady put together- had another lull when all 5 of them graduated, and then went on a run in 95 and 96 with a bunch that Stands and Kirby helped put together

[shannondawg]

Just takes time don't it Coach?

[Drugdog]

Haha...exactly. So, the goal is to get Ray's coaching record to .500? Add that to the list of awful posts made by Dawgs61.

D61 is legendary in his horrible posts.

[tcdog70]

Why is Richard Williams our standard for excellence? Over all he was a average coach in a really good SEC. Ray is a shitty coach in a Shitty SEC. RW was never last nor next to last in almost every category. To defend the shittyness of our Basketball team is stupid.Maybe we will be better next year and I will pulling for Ray to lead us into the middle of the pack, but for His first two years he is a failure in the first degree. We will still have shitty guards, under 6' guards dooms you in today's basketball. Ready was giving up 6" on His man Saturday, that shit won't fly. Ray has to recruit better and the guys he is bringing in aren't that good. Ready and Bloodman next year, that alone is the kiss of death.

[engie]

Ha, when you put it that way, it sounds even worse....and I didn't think it could be any worse.

"We are now 61-88 in the SEC under Cohen. Do y'all realize how long it's going to take just to get back to .500 in the SEC now under Cohen? Matching his best year at MSU in conference, it would take him 14 years to get back to an even record. Good ****ing grief."

[C222]

"We are now 61-88 in the SEC under Cohen. Do y'all realize how long it's going to take just to get back to .500 in the SEC now under Cohen? Matching his best year at MSU in conference, it would take him 14 years to get back to an even record. Good ****ing grief."

Hahaha.. I can't get over how ridiculous that post by is Dawgs61.

[BiscuitEater]

Richard Williams started 9-27, guess we should have fired him after year two also. Really set our program back by not doing that.**

showed continued improvement year after year. From 3-15, 6-12 to 7-11.

Meanwhile, unless this team goes on a tear, Ray will have gone from 4-14, + a win in the SECT to a 3-15 record, again tying the MSU record for longest SEC loss streak in their entire history.

[Sandman14]

Given that Auburn has been considering hiring Stands...it just occurred to me, why don't we try and see if we can hire Rick Stansbury to be the next basketball coach at MSU? It can't be any worse, that's for sure. In fact, I did a little checking around, and I ran across these stats. Look at what Stansbury has done at a program very much like....wait, no, these stats are actually at MSU, so even better:



Season Team Overall Conference Standing Postseason
Mississippi State Bulldogs (Southeastern Conference) (1998–2012)
1998–99 Mississippi State 20–13 8–8 T–3rd (West) NIT 1st Round
1999–2000 Mississippi State 14–16 5–11 T–5th (West)
2000–01 Mississippi State 18–13 7–9 T–4th (West) NIT Quarterfinals
2001–02 Mississippi State 27–8 10–6 2nd (West) NCAA 2nd Round
2002–03 Mississippi State 21–10 9–7 1st (West) NCAA 1st Round
2003–04 Mississippi State 26–4 14–2 1st (West) NCAA 2nd Round
2004–05 Mississippi State 23–11 9–7 3rd (West) NCAA 2nd Round
2005–06 Mississippi State 15–15 5–11 5th (West)
2006–07 Mississippi State 21–14 8–8 T–1st (West) NIT Final Four
2007–08 Mississippi State 23–11 12–4 1st (West) NCAA 2nd Round
2008–09 Mississippi State 23–13 9–7 3rd (West) NCAA 1st Round
2009–10 Mississippi State 24–12 9–7 T–1st (West) NIT 2nd Round
2010–11 Mississippi State 17–13 9–7 2nd (West)
2011–12 Mississippi State 21–12 8–8 T–6th NIT 1st Round

[Jack Lambert]

Given that Auburn has been considering hiring Stands...it just occurred to me, why don't we try and see if we can hire Rick Stansbury to be the next basketball coach at MSU? It can't be any worse, that's for sure. In fact, I did a little checking around, and I ran across these stats. Look at what Stansbury has done at a program very much like....wait, no, these stats are actually at MSU, so even better:



Season Team Overall Conference Standing Postseason
Mississippi State Bulldogs (Southeastern Conference) (1998–2012)
1998–99 Mississippi State 20–13 8–8 T–3rd (West) NIT 1st Round
1999–2000 Mississippi State 14–16 5–11 T–5th (West)
2000–01 Mississippi State 18–13 7–9 T–4th (West) NIT Quarterfinals
2001–02 Mississippi State 27–8 10–6 2nd (West) NCAA 2nd Round
2002–03 Mississippi State 21–10 9–7 1st (West) NCAA 1st Round
2003–04 Mississippi State 26–4 14–2 1st (West) NCAA 2nd Round
2004–05 Mississippi State 23–11 9–7 3rd (West) NCAA 2nd Round
2005–06 Mississippi State 15–15 5–11 5th (West)
2006–07 Mississippi State 21–14 8–8 T–1st (West) NIT Final Four
2007–08 Mississippi State 23–11 12–4 1st (West) NCAA 2nd Round
2008–09 Mississippi State 23–13 9–7 3rd (West) NCAA 1st Round
2009–10 Mississippi State 24–12 9–7 T–1st (West) NIT 2nd Round
2010–11 Mississippi State 17–13 9–7 2nd (West)
2011–12 Mississippi State 21–12 8–8 T–6th NIT 1st Round

If Stansbury had gotten a few Quarterfinals in the NCAA he would still be employed even with RS mistake. He just could not get them over that hump. I don't know if Ray will ever get us any where near we were with Stansbury. If After three we are still losing by 20 consistantly and there is no improvement he will have to go but for now I am willing to give him one more year.

[Sandman14]

Not me. He's exactly what I thought he was when we hired him. He's a glorified assistant coach. He knows basketball like any good assistant knows basketball. That doesn't make him a head coach. We had one of those...a guy who could literally almost turn a roster over in one season and still figure out a way to be competitive. I wish we still had a coach like that. If we did, I'd know who is in the top 20 in ncaa basketball this year, I'd have watched a bunch of MSU games as opposed to literally none, and I'd be getting pumped for the ncaa's right about now, which I'm not.

As for the last post, you should merely hope that we do not do worse than 3-15 in SEC play next year. That is all you can reasonably hope for with this pathetic regime. Stricklin has had one test since coming on as AD, and he made an F minus on that test. He scored literally the worst you can possibly score.

[tcdog70]

To be better next year, we are going to have to pass 5-7 teams in the SEC. Which teams are going to be better than?

[Sandman14]

how could we be better at basketball when we have worse players, we recruit worse players, and we have worse coaching? seems like maybe asking for a miracle as opposed to being hopeful. there has to be one scintilla of evidence to support our hopes to make the hopes even slightly reasonable.

for instance, under Stands, you could say, "well, we do have two four-star players and one 5-star player coming in, so maybe we will get going with the youngsters," whereas with ray, you say "well, all our players are terrible, and all our recruits are terrible, and our coach is terrible, so what reason is there to be optimistic?"

[Dawg61]

"We are now 61-88 in the SEC under Cohen. Do y'all realize how long it's going to take just to get back to .500 in the SEC now under Cohen? Matching his best year at MSU in conference, it would take him 14 years to get back to an even record. Good ****ing grief."

You should call our baseball & basketball coach by his full name. JohnRick RayCohen.

[smootness]

To be better next year, we are going to have to pass 5-7 teams in the SEC. Which teams are going to be better than?

We could definitely pass teams like South Carolina, Auburn, Texas A&M, Alabama, Vanderbilt, and Ole Miss. And who knows what a team like Georgia will look lik next year.

It really wouldn't be terribly difficult...I say that not in the sense that we will definitely do it, just that if you take a clear step forward and start to pass some of those teams, you will pass them all pretty quickly.

[smootness]

how could we be better at basketball when we have worse players, we recruit worse players, and we have worse coaching? seems like maybe asking for a miracle as opposed to being hopeful. there has to be one scintilla of evidence to support our hopes to make the hopes even slightly reasonable.

for instance, under Stands, you could say, "well, we do have two four-star players and one 5-star player coming in, so maybe we will get going with the youngsters," whereas with ray, you say "well, all our players are terrible, and all our recruits are terrible, and our coach is terrible, so what reason is there to be optimistic?"

After too many instances of, 'well, maybe we'll get it going now,' that don't ultimately get it going, it's time to make a move.

I was fully on the Stans train until his last few years. The Kodi/Ravern teams started to take away some of my confidence in him, but I always knew that Hood/Moultrie year was coming, so I was willing to wait and see what happened then. We saw what happened, so it was time to make the move.

The worse coaching is obviously your opinion; the worse players and recruits is true as of now; we'll see going forward.

[Dawg61]

Will we pass 0-18 TCU?

[RougeDawg]

Hey but our 8 man roster is ranked #1 in hustle!!!!! Thanks all that seems to matter to the apologists.