Holy Cross game 4 thread

[Will James]

Starts off with a misplayed ball by Hann at SS. The calls for Seth Heck increase.

[Will James]

Hudson's talented but a true frosh. Start warming up Lingo. Ill be damned if we split with these clowns

[messageboardsuperhero]

Ugh...

[CadaverDawg]

Cody Brown?

Thoughts?

[CadaverDawg]

As always in early season, I'm ready to see our best 9 on the field. But you can't really argue the results of getting everybody some early season starts. It seems to make guys come through off the bench late in the year if we need em.

[Will James]

As always in early season, I'm ready to see our best 9 on the field. But you can't really argue the results of getting everybody some early season starts. It seems to make guys come through off the bench late in the year if we need em.

Its okay if we're winning. Hosting is very important.

[CadaverDawg]

Its okay if we're winning. Hosting is very important.

Yep. Splitting with HC would be horrid

[messageboardsuperhero]

Nice to get out of that only giving up one run. Hudson almost looks scared out there. Hopefully he settles down.

[messageboardsuperhero]

I love Jake Vickerson.

[Will James]

Don't hit and run with Detz... Especially with fatboy coming up

[Political Hack]

Cody Brown?

Thoughts?

as a SS or did something happen? not watching right now.

[spiritual_machine2005]

Score?

[Will James]

Holy shit its 2012. Just let our best ****ing hitters hit

[CadaverDawg]

1-0 HC. Just got caught stealing and then Rea walked

[messageboardsuperhero]

I like us playing small ball, but not in the first inning with the top of the order up.

[CadaverDawg]

And that should be a run after a Pirtle hit, but not since we got caught stealing

[Dallas_Dawg]

Cody brown strikes out swinging to end inning

[CadaverDawg]

as a SS or did something happen? not watching right now.

As our starting RF. He just K'd with a man in scoring position to end the inning. Why no Hendu?

[I seen it dawg]

I like brown in the lineup. Much better approach than CT even tho he Kd

[Will James]

I like us playing small ball, but not in the first inning with the top of the order up.

Our first four should rarely play BS ball. Save it for CT, Henderson, Robson,

[messageboardsuperhero]

Good half inning for Hudson- he mixed off speed stuff well.

[I seen it dawg]

When he figures out how to really pitch he will be devastating.

[messageboardsuperhero]

Our first four should rarely play BS ball. Save it for CT, Henderson, Robson,

I agree. First inning with Detz/Rea up is the wrong time for hit-and-runs/steals.

[Will James]

Buntfail

[sandjunky]

4 LOB so far today

[chef dixon]

Not a big baseball guy, but wouldn't you expect the 4th starting pitcher for a team like Holy Cross to get abused?

[Will James]

4 LOB so far today

3 of 6 outs given away as well. Bunt steal and h&r.

[CadaverDawg]

The kiss cam is more exciting than our offense right now.

I'm thinking Cohen may want to let these hitters hit. Especially until our pitching staff starts getting in a groove. Playing for 3-4 runs a game ain't getting it done when we're giving up 5-6 per game.

In 4 years, I think I could count our successful hit and runs on two hands

[Will James]

Lindgren get loose.

[CadaverDawg]

Vickerson is fun to watch. He was a good pick up

[Political Hack]

I like brown in the lineup. Much better approach than CT even tho he Kd

me too so far. he's delivered with RISP already even though he's only played a few college games. Looks confident at the plate and has gotten on base a lot. just got to cut down on the K's, which will happen as he gets more used to college pitching. What we're seeing from him right now is his floor at the very beginning of his career. As he learns, he'll continue to improve IMO.

[Political Hack]

score? inning?

[CadaverDawg]

Runners on 1st and 2nd with only one out for HC. We need to get out of this.

Top of 3rd, PH

[I seen it dawg]

1-0 HC. Runners at 1&2 1 out

[CadaverDawg]

Infield single, bases loaded with 1 out for HC. They lead 1-0

[I seen it dawg]

Great pitch but perfectly placed infield hit.

[I seen it dawg]

I like leaving Hudson in to see if he can work out of it. He's gonna have to do it if he is gonna be Sunday guy.

[CadaverDawg]

Double Play! Nice work, Dakota.

[I seen it dawg]

Attaboy freshmans. Double play

[messageboardsuperhero]

Big BP to get out of it.

I love Hudson's future, but you can tell he's not ready to be an SEC starter yet. He's just not comfortable enough with his off speed stuff right now.

[I seen it dawg]

That was great execution of pitches in that at bat.

[CadaverDawg]

We'll put up a few runs this inning.

[I seen it dawg]

He looked comfortable in that AB. He has to gain some consistency and trust his stuff. All Freshman have to learn it.

[CadaverDawg]

Well shit. 2 tappers to the shortstop, and we've already got 2 outs

[Coach34]

He's very mature looking for a Freshmens

[Coach34]

Well shit. 2 tappers to the shortstop, and we've already got 2 outs

Our hitting will be a work in progress for awhile

[CadaverDawg]

Big Papi pops out. Inning over.

[I seen it dawg]

Love how we handled Hudson today. Let him pitch out of the jam and then get him out of there on a big positive. Good learning today.

[I seen it dawg]

Dammit throw ****ing strikes. These ****ing freshman need to stone up.

[mparkerfd20]

Cohen just doesn't have our team prepared right now and it shows big time.

[Will James]

Why true ****ing freshmen when our best pitcher is in the pen (Lingo)

Win the damn game!!

[MarketingBully01]

As always in early season, I'm ready to see our best 9 on the field. But you can't really argue the results of getting everybody some early season starts. It seems to make guys come through off the bench late in the year if we need em.

What I want to know is why did Britton start at 3rd? There should only be two players playing that position, Humphries or Detz. Not Britton or Hann. This is getting rediculous. And never should we have Hann and Britton in the same lineup. It just screams of let's play small ball period....

[ScottH]

At this rate, we should have presold Seat Licenses for the new/renovated stadium before the season.

[CadaverDawg]

We may get run out of the stadium by Holy Cross today.

Face palm.

Time to wake up, boys.

[messageboardsuperhero]

I'm sorry but this is just painful to watch right now. I know we're still trying to get our feet wet, but we're playing Holy ****ing Cross. Splitting with these clowns would seriously hurt our hosting chances.

[I seen it dawg]

Tatum has to compete better than that if he expects to see the field. He has talent but when he wasn't missing by more than a foot he was tubing it.

[CadaverDawg]

Why true ****ing freshmen when our best pitcher is in the pen (Lingo)

Win the damn game!!

Lingo must be sucking with a capital S in practice. Shelly is pitching ahead of him now.

[CadaverDawg]

Come on Shelly, roll us a double play ball

[CadaverDawg]

WTF? Throw that bastard out at 2nd

[msstate7]

We suck

[I seen it dawg]

I'm pitching around lovelo

[CadaverDawg]

****.

4-0

[messageboardsuperhero]

Mother ****er. We are a shitty team right now.

[CadaverDawg]

We better wake the hell up. This shit is embarassing

[I seen it dawg]

And I'm behind on hail tv too I guess. And then we let the guy go to second. ****

[Will James]

Cohen bullshit on full display today. Why infield in there in the 4th. We can't score 3 runs vs Holy Cross? Put in Lindgren. Let him finish the damn game. Let our hitters hit their sorry ass FOURTH best pitcher and get a damn win. This is this shit that I hate. We are gonna cost ourselves a host playing bullshit lineups and not managing the game correctly. See you boys in Tallahassee

[msstate7]

Embarrassing

[Will James]

Put Lindgren in the god damn game!!

2 freshmen and a sophomore that pitched none last year

[messageboardsuperhero]

These clowns from Holy Cross suck, and they're kicking our ass.

[CadaverDawg]

5-0.

Shelly had just blown two fastballs right by the guy, and then throws a hanging curve with 2 strikes? Jeez, this is awful

[I seen it dawg]

Goddammit our pitchers aren't competing for shit. Anything in the zone is down the ****ing middle and anything not a strike isn't in the ****ing area code. ****ing compete!!!

[Barkman Turner Overdrive]

We are gonna cost ourselves a host playing bullshit lineups and not managing the game correctly. See you boys in Tallahassee

There will be NO postseason whatsoever for the team we've seen so far these last 10 days.

[I seen it dawg]

Lollipop the ****ing ball to first? We need a ****ing attitude adjustment. Somebody needs to jerk a knot in this teams ****ing ass. Look like they are going thru the motions.

[sandjunky]

the suck is strong with this team right now

[MarketingBully01]

Wow, when MSU implodes we implode.

[Will James]

Goddammit our pitchers aren't competing for shit. Anything in the zone is down the ****ing middle and anything not a strike isn't in the ****ing area code. ****ing compete!!!

Well when John puts in 2 freshmen and a sophomore with no experience.....

[bully99]

Oh my

[MarketingBully01]

Lollipop the ****ing ball to first? We need a ****ing attitude adjustment. Somebody needs to jerk a knot in this teams ****ing ass. Look like they are going thru the motions.

They have been doing that since the Memphis game. That seems to be our MO this year.

[I seen it dawg]

Well when John puts in 2 freshmen and a sophomore with no experience.....

They still have to compete

[I seen it dawg]

The HC guy is competing and taking the fight to us.

[msstate7]

We are going from top 10 to unranked where we belong

[MarketingBully01]

If we keep this up this could be the most disappointing team in MSU history. We really have no sense of urgency or anything. That is the makeup of this team. We need our leaders to chew on some ass. Do we have any leaders?

[CadaverDawg]

3 up 3 down yet again.

[Bully13]

3 up and 3 down after giving up the 4 spot. this suckfest is confusing.

[msstate7]

Who sucks worse basketball or baseball? At least basketball had a winning record against OOC

[messageboardsuperhero]

This team is playing scared right now. We look like a bunch damn babies who got their candy taken away from them.

[Bully13]

this may end up being our baseball's version of the rose bowl year.

[I seen it dawg]

Throw the bats and gloves out there and poof we are in Omaha. These players need a kick in the nuts back to reality.

[MarketingBully01]

Who sucks worse basketball or baseball? At least basketball had a winning record against OOC

Basketball but baseball would be the most disappointing. They have not shown up in three games of our eight. There still is plenty of time in this one but it is not looking promising .

[Will James]

It's really simple. Play the best 9 bats and throw your best pitchers. How does Garner not make today's lineup? Hann cannot hit. Heck can AND he won defensive awards both years at JUCO. Our best pitcher on the team will not make an appearance over a four game weekend.

Cohen bullshit has returned. We didn't bullshit last year. We are now. Play the damn game and win. 2012 is not the model.

[engie]

"Scared" and "timid" is something I've never seen from a Cohen team before -- and it's worrisome to me.

Bout time for some of these freshmen to nut up and start acting like the blue chips they are and were coming out of highschool.

[Will James]

Oh now we put him in. Not when it's 2-0. But 5-0.

Atta boy John.

[I seen it dawg]

Throw the bats and gloves out there and poof we are in Omaha. These players need a kick in the nuts back to reality.

They better get some damn intensity before Vandy shows up in a month or they will cornhole us 3 times.

[I seen it dawg]

Shit Shelley just blew his elbow.

[HancockCountyDog]

I get home from church with the family to see this crap.

First off, Im glad we are finally putting Lindgren in. I hope he goes the rest of the way and gives our offense a chance to catch up. Im worried about having to score 6 runs in 5 innings. I think we can do it though.

[engie]

this may end up being our baseball's version of the rose bowl year.

These types of "big picture" posts based on small sample sizes in BASEBALL are the kind of things that drives my crazy.

[MarketingBully01]

We should not be getting shut out by their 4th starter. This is just stupid

[Bully13]

3 hits to their 9 so far in game 4. is this supposed to be their 4th starter? what the hell is going on with our team?

[Will James]

Lindgren with a K. Seeing a pattern. How come I have to see this shit and proclaim it from the rooftop (Seth Heck too) before we act on it.

[CadaverDawg]

Lingo looked filthy.

Very Girodo-esque right there.

[messageboardsuperhero]

Why doesn't Lindgren get more innings? It's inexplicable.

[HancockCountyDog]

These types of "big picture" posts based on small sample sizes in BASEBALL are the kind of things that drives my crazy.

I agree - its just nuts. We are 8 games into the season. Yes, I will pissed off if we are 4-4 after 8 games, but everyone take a breath.

Cohen is doing what he always does which is trying to figure out his best 9 and who he can count on down the stretch. Now, obviously you want to win the damn games while doing this, especially against Holy Cross, but its something that needs to happen.

I still think we can rally in this game and take this series.

[MarketingBully01]

These types of "big picture" posts based on small sample sizes in BASEBALL are the kind of things that drives my crazy.

Losing these types of games makes us end up being like Arkansas last year and out us in shitty position to do anything in the post season. If you remember, they finished 18-11 in the SEC but lost a hosting spot to us because of early season pre-SEC season losses. At the very least, losses like this make us this year's Arkansas.

[Dallas_Dawg]

Damn, Lingo looks like our best pitcher thus far. Any chance Will James' boy gets another shot to start?

[MarketingBully01]

I agree - its just nuts. We are 8 games into the season. Yes, I will pissed off if we are 4-4 after 8 games, but everyone take a breath.

Cohen is doing what he always does which is trying to figure out his best 9 and who he can count on down the stretch. Now, obviously you want to win the damn games while doing this, especially against Holy Cross, but its something that needs to happen.

I still think we can rally in this game and take this series.

He didn't lose these games last year. That is a HUGE difference.

[msstate7]

Please walk a couple

[CadaverDawg]

Damn, Lingo looks like our best pitcher thus far. Any chance Will James' boy gets another shot to start?

Doubt it. Cohen says he wants to use him like we used Girodo last year

[msstate7]

Good rip hann

[Will James]

FIP don't lie

[CadaverDawg]

Good God, wtf are we doing bunting here?

[Quaoarsking]

People were whining about Cohen, guaranteeing 12th place finishes, etc., during the first month of each of the last 3 seasons, and Cohen always made those people look like idiots.

Why is everyone doing it again? Does no one ever learn? Are you trying for a 4th straight year of looking like a moron? We will be fine...

[messageboardsuperhero]

Why try to bunt there? We are down five ****ing runs.

[Bully13]

These types of "big picture" posts based on small sample sizes in BASEBALL are the kind of things that drives my crazy.

forgive me for being just slightly pissed. it sure is looking like it so far. I realize the season is young, but this team is not showing me anything but a total waste of talent so far. so far the expecations versus the results have been abysmal and an epic fail.

[Will James]

Doubt it. Cohen says he wants to use him like we used Girodo last year

Its 2012 again. Just be prepared.

[I seen it dawg]

That was on Britton. He was bunting for a hit. Grow stones as a hitter..

[Quaoarsking]

forgive me for being just slightly pissed. it sure is looking like it so far. I realize the season is young, but this team is not showing me anything but a total waste of talent so far. so far the expecations versus the results have been abysmal and an epic fail.

Have you just forgotten the last 3 years? Or is the wailing and gnashing of teeth just more fun than calmly remembering that baseball's a funny game and long season?

[Will James]

Why try to bunt there? We are down five ****ing runs.

Its 2012. Its a WTF type of year.

[I seen it dawg]

forgive me for being just slightly pissed. it sure is looking like it so far. I realize the season is young, but this team is not showing me anything but a total waste of talent so far. so far the expecations versus the results have been abysmal and an epic fail.

Just avoid baseball

[CadaverDawg]

Its 2012. Its a WTF type of year.

Haha, I hate losing, but Will James is at his best when we are screwing around out there

[MarketingBully01]

That was on Britton. He was bunting for a hit. Grow stones as a hitter..

He is not a consistently good hitter so he has to get on different types of ways.

[msstate7]

Good grief at the popups

[engie]

Losing these types of games makes us end up being like Arkansas last year and out us in shitty position to do anything in the post season. If you remember, they finished 18-11 in the SEC but lost a hosting spot to us because of early season pre-SEC season losses. At the very least, losses like this make us this year's Arkansas.

No. Just no. Not even close at this point.

[I seen it dawg]

In that situation it shows he doesn't have the confidence to drive in a run. It's not getting on in different ways. Leading off in 3rd maybe so. Not there.

[CadaverDawg]

Good grief, Gavin...top half of the ball son

[msstate7]

4 straight popups = 2 outs. Geez

[I seen it dawg]

Attaboy Vick. Some stones

[CadaverDawg]

Vickerson is a player, boys

[msstate7]

Come on detz

[msstate7]

Vickerson is a player, boys

Yep

[Will James]

I mean what the hell goes through your head to put in Tatum and Shelly and not Lindgren or even Holder there. Most important point we will see and we go from 2 to 5 with pitchers who haven't seen the mound ever.

[maroonmania]

Good gracious, just got in from lunch and turned the game on and its freakin' 5-0? I'm actually starting to get pissed at this baseball team. Can someone tell me briefly how they got 5 runs?? Hits, errors, walks??

[HancockCountyDog]

My biggest concern today is that we don't play for the big inning - we play to scratch some runs across down 5-1 in the 6th and now Rea will be leading the next inning just worries me about this game.

Hopefully we can 1 or 2 across next inning and make it a 2 run game going to the stretch.

[I seen it dawg]

I mean what the hell goes through your head to put in Tatum and Shelly and not Lindgren or even Holder there. Most important point we will see and we go from 2 to 5 with pitchers who haven't seen the mound ever.
Damn at some point we have to find out who can go to the mound and compete besides Mitchell, Gentry, or Cox. Even if we don't have anyone out there we don't know unless we run them out there and see if they will compete. I know you are pissed about Lingo but you know it has to be done.

[Will James]

Lingo. K's and grounders. Same GB% as Graveman last year. 1st round pick.

Back of Cohens pen on day 4.

I see a problem there.

[engie]

Good gracious, just got in from lunch and turned the game on and its freakin' 5-0? I'm actually starting to get pissed at this baseball team. Can someone tell me briefly how they got 5 runs?? Hits, errors, walks??
Mostly just finding holes. We're doing a little bit of everything wrong honestly.

[MarketingBully01]

No. Just no. Not even close at this point.

Tell me how it is different? Their record heading into the SEC was 13-5 and they were preseason #1 in some polls last year. After this game if we don't come back, we will be. 4-4. We are setting ourselves up to not host with how we are playing right now and there is even precedence from last year.

[Will James]

Damn at some point we have to find out who can go to the mound and compete besides Mitchell, Gentry, or Cox. Even if we don't have anyone out there we don't know unless we run them out there and see if they will compete. I know you are pissed about Lingo but you know it has to be done.

You have to win baseball games.

[HancockCountyDog]

Tell me how it is different? Their record heading into the SEC was 13-5 and they were preseason #1 in some polls last year. After this game if we don't come back, we will be. 4-4. We are setting ourselves up to not host with how we are playing right now and there is even precedence from last year.

I would take 13-5 in a heartbeat.

[I seen it dawg]

Tell me how it is different? Their record heading into the SEC was 13-5 and they were preseason #1 in some polls last year. After this game if we don't come back, we will be. 4-4. We are setting ourselves up to not host with how we are playing right now and there is even precedence from last year.

This is how our team attitude looks right now and it needs to change. Better quit ****ing worrying about hosting or any post season shit in ****ing February. Play the game and stop worrying about shit in May.

[Will James]

Looking like WJ again is right. Been saying it all offseason that Lingo is our best and a 1st rounder.

[msstate7]

Wish lindgren had gotten in this game while it was close

[MarketingBully01]

You have to win baseball games.

I agree Will. Cohen got away with this shit last year because HE WON these games. If you do this experimenting and lose, you really aren't doing yourself any favors.

[I seen it dawg]

You have to win baseball games.

I'm aware of that but you also have to have more than 5 pitchers to get thru a season. Don't know what you have if they don't get into a game.

[msstate7]

Popup after popup. We are offensively challenged. Sec pitching is gonna tear us up

[MarketingBully01]

This is how our team attitude looks right now and it needs to change. Better quit ****ing worrying about hosting or any post season shit in ****ing February. Play the game and stop worrying about shit in May.

Good one, but you sure as shit can play your way out of everything in February.

[Todd4State]

Mostly just finding holes. We're doing a little bit of everything wrong honestly.


If there is any positive from today, we don't have any errors in the field thus far. I'd bench Britton for Humphreys, but other than that- this is probably our best lineup right now.

Dakota pitched pretty well- but Tatum and I feel bad for saying this since it appears as if he is hurt- and Shelly didn't pitch well at all. I'm pretty sure Shelly is done and Tatum is going to be a LOOGY.

It really sucks for us that the Hofstra series got cancelled because that was our time to play guys like Tatum and Shelly. Now, I feel like we are kind of forcing them out there to see what they can do.

[MarketingBully01]

What is really sucking in this game is our leaders aren't even doing well at the plate. Pirtle with a strikeout.

[CadaverDawg]

If there is any positive from today, we don't have any errors in the field thus far. I'd bench Britton for Humphreys, but other than that- this is probably our best lineup right now.

Dakota pitched pretty well- but Tatum and I feel bad for saying this since it appears as if he is hurt- and Shelly didn't pitch well at all. I'm pretty sure Shelly is done and Tatum is going to be a LOOGY.

It really sucks for us that the Hofstra series got cancelled because that was our time to play guys like Tatum and Shelly. Now, I feel like we are kind of forcing them out there to see what they can do.

I think Henderson should play over Brown too

[HancockCountyDog]

As much as I agree that Lindgren should have come in earlier - we have 5 ****ing hits today. F-I-V-E in six innings against Holy Cross' 4th best starter. Someone can correct me, but it doesn't seem we are hitting them hard either.

We just had two strikeouts and a pop up through the heart of our lineup.

[I seen it dawg]

Good one, but you sure as shit can play your way out of everything in February.

I agree but you can't worry about that right now. Got to find guys that are going to compete. Right now we are finding those that aren't. SOMEBODY, preferably a veteran needs to light a fire under the veterans on this team. Our approach is lackadaisical and shitty to watch.

[msstate7]

Opposing pitchers just have to throw strikes and don't let rea hurt them. If teams follow that formula, we will struggle big time

[sleepy dawg]

If there is any positive from today, we don't have any errors in the field thus far. I'd bench Britton for Humphreys, but other than that- this is probably our best lineup right now.

Dakota pitched pretty well- but Tatum and I feel bad for saying this since it appears as if he is hurt- and Shelly didn't pitch well at all. I'm pretty sure Shelly is done and Tatum is going to be a LOOGY.

It really sucks for us that the Hofstra series got cancelled because that was our time to play guys like Tatum and Shelly. Now, I feel like we are kind of forcing them out there to see what they can do.

Scratch that.

[MarketingBully01]

Wow another error...

[Will James]

Another Hann misplayed ball. It's Heck time bad.

[Todd4State]

I think Henderson should play over Brown too

That would be fine with me. Our outfielders have performed reasonably well as a group.

[I seen it dawg]

Hann doesn't have an elite arm which you have to have at SS. Lollipop city

[HancockCountyDog]

Another ****ing error by our SS? I mean, we are missing Frazier's defense tremendously. Just silly at this point.

[Todd4State]

Scratch that.

Yes, that's why I put the disclaimer in there. Internet posting veteran experience paying off.

[I seen it dawg]

Got to hold runners better.

[MarketingBully01]

Opposing pitchers just have to throw strikes and don't let rea hurt them. If teams follow that formula, we will struggle big time

Because he has experimented with our lineup so much, we don't have consistent hitting from some of the young guys he doesn't play much. The way he has done Humphries I would not be surprised if he struggles a lot this year. I wouldn't have a lot of confidence if I was him. Britton playing third is just laughable. Frost was much better at third then Britton.

[CadaverDawg]

Why not give Heck a shot? What could it hurt at this point?

[MarketingBully01]

Why not give Heck a shot? What could it hurt at this point?

If we are going to be the elite team we can be, Heck and. Humphries have to be the left side of our infield.

[Will James]

Did Cohen not watch his own fall/spring? If its this obvious to ME why does he make these mistakes. Play Heck. Play Humphreys. Play Garner. Pitch Lindgren.

[MarketingBully01]

Britton should only get playing time like Frost did last year. In spots.

[HancockCountyDog]

Gotta make it happen here - close the gap. Lets GO!!!!

[maroonmania]

Opposing pitchers just have to throw strikes and don't let rea hurt them. If teams follow that formula, we will struggle big time

Exactly, I know Cohen will improve the team over the year but he doesn't have a magic wand to make guys that suck at the plate good hitters all of a sudden. Like you said, if I'm an opposing coach I preach to my pitchers to pound the strike zone and don't give Rea anything very good to hit. If you follow that pattern we aren't going score more than 2 or 3 runs on you and that means you have a great chance to beat us.

[CadaverDawg]

I think Bradford will end up coming through in some key spots this year, due to his experience....but damn I had high hopes for him after his freshman year and he just never could put it back together after injury.

[I seen it dawg]

Bradford is average at best. He's an out.

[CadaverDawg]

This pitcher is making us look silly.

[MarketingBully01]

Please pinch hit for Britton with Humphries...

[Will James]

If we are going to be the elite team we can be, Heck and. Humphries have to be the left side of our infield.

+1

[HancockCountyDog]

They are just pounding the zones and making us swing the bats - I hope we start making them pay soon.

[CadaverDawg]

Please pinch hit for Britton with Humphries...

Why single out Britton? At least he walks and gets on base a lot. You could pinch hit for damn near everybody right now and have just as much of a case.

[I seen it dawg]

We've got to find some offense. We don't scare anybody.

[maroonmania]

To be honest guys, we have so many issues right now offensively and defensively in the field that its going to be a BIG challenge for Cohen to get it straightened out. We are about to go to 4-4 after today having played 3 mediocre teams. Like someone else said, we are going to struggle mightily to score against SEC pitching and we aren't sound enough in the field right now to win 2-1 or 3-2 type games.

[CadaverDawg]

To be honest guys, we have so many issues right now offensively and defensively in the field that its going to be a BIG challenge for Cohen to get it straightened out. We are about to go to 4-4 after today having played 3 mediocre teams. Like someone else said, we are going to struggle mightily to score against SEC pitching and we aren't sound enough in the field right now to win 2-1 or 3-2 type games.

Too early to make that assumption IMO

[CadaverDawg]

Who is at SS right now? Is that Heck?

[MarketingBully01]

Why single out Britton? At least he walks and gets on base a lot. You could pinch hit for damn near everybody right now and have just as much of a case.

Why is he playing third base? You can't have him AND Hann in the same lineup. It just doesn't work. But I digress, he has played just as poorly as anyone has in the lineup this year. He single handedly lost us that Memphis game and you can't say that about everyone either.

[Bullmutt]

Just now able to tune in on live stats. Appears today we can neither hit nor defend. It's time for some leadership to assert itself. Question is- by whom?

[sandjunky]

We've hit 3 balls hard today..pirtle single, hann double, and heck ground out

[maroonmania]

Too early to make that assumption IMO

Well we may get the defensive situation straightened out but other than Rea I haven't seen ANYONE on our team consistently squaring up the baseball. I'll stand by the statement that scoring runs against SEC teams will be challenging for us.

[Todd4State]

To be honest guys, we have so many issues right now offensively and defensively in the field that its going to be a BIG challenge for Cohen to get it straightened out. We are about to go to 4-4 after today having played 3 mediocre teams. Like someone else said, we are going to struggle mightily to score against SEC pitching and we aren't sound enough in the field right now to win 2-1 or 3-2 type games.

It's probably easier to straighten defense out than offense. And usually you end up better in the long run for doing that too. That's why there are some catchers in MLB that are hitting .200 and hang around awhile.

Our outfield defense is fine. Catcher was an issue, but Collins and Walker look to have stepped up. So, we appear to have solved that.

That leaves the infield. Wes is good. We might consider moving Pirtle to SS and then let Hann or Heck play second. Then we might consider Humphreys and Heck at third.

[HancockCountyDog]

Lindgren so far - 3 1/3 innings, 0 hits, 1 walk, 6 K's.

Just saying; Coast trash throwing heat.

Edited to add another K.

[I seen it dawg]

Just now able to tune in on live stats. Appears today we can neither hit nor defend. It's time for some leadership to assert itself. Question is- by whom?

Absolutely. Needs to be a veteran out of the too cool for school group. Those guys needs to nut up instead of having well we've been there before attitude. Guess what? You haven't done dick this year and nobody gives a shit about last year. ****ing get your head out of your asses veterans.

[CadaverDawg]

Well we may get the defensive situation straightened out but other than Rea I haven't seen ANYONE on our team consistently squaring up the baseball.

You gotta think Detz and Pirtle will turn it up. Vickerson has hit it well. CT will be hit or miss, but will typically get you a hit per game. Henderson usually finds a way to get on base, but we are playing Brown over him right now for some reason. And Humphries seemed to be on base all fall, but we aren't playing him any either. Garner has looked great in minimal action, so we took him out of the lineup.

The potential is there, we just have to get em all on the field together IMO.

[Todd4State]

You gotta think Detz and Pirtle will turn it up. Vickers on has hit it well. CT will be hit or miss, but will typically get you a hit per game. Henderson usually finds a way to get on base, but we are playing Brown over him right now for some reason. And Humphries seemed to be on base all fall, but we aren't playing him any either. Garner has looked great in minimal action, so we took him out of the lineup.

The potential is there, we just have to get em all on the field together IMO.

This is probably going to sound crazy- but it might not be a bad idea to bench Detz in favor or Garner or Humphreys to get some offense.

[HancockCountyDog]

We've hit 3 balls hard today..pirtle single, hann double, and heck ground out

This is my big concern. 5 hits through 7 innings in a Sunday game against Holy Cross is a concern.

[HancockCountyDog]

Ok - here we go - Leadoff guy on board.

Vickerson, Detz and Rea coming up - lets go.

[CadaverDawg]

Glad we got a hit, but prepare yourself for a lot of Armstrong PT after that one.

[maroonmania]

Well now I know why we haven't scored, Jim just said this guy hasn't given us a walk since the first inning. Just goes to show you that all you need to shut us down right now is control.

[Will James]

This is probably going to sound crazy- but it might not be a bad idea to bench Detz in favor or Garner or Humphreys to get some offense.

Yeah that does sound crazy. Garner can catch and Hump can play 3rd. It's real ****ing simple in the infield. Finding the best 3 OF is the question.

[CadaverDawg]

This is probably going to sound crazy- but it might not be a bad idea to bench Detz in favor or Garner or Humphreys to get some offense.

Detz just gets on base too much to take out if you ask me.

[CadaverDawg]

Please tell me that wasn't a hit and run though.

[MarketingBully01]

Wasn't that ball 4 that Vickerson swung on?

[CadaverDawg]

Damn. Just damn

[CadaverDawg]

How much you wanna bet we try to steal Armstrong here

[MarketingBully01]

Our lineup is just really really struggling.

[CadaverDawg]

Holy shitballs, what a damn catch. All you can do is tip your cap and realize it ain't our day

[MarketingBully01]

Great catch by HC just isn't our day when they make plays like that on Rea's hit.

[MarketingBully01]

Haha, we had the same thought there Cadaver.

[I seen it dawg]

That's baseball. When it's going bad plays like that are made against you. I'll take 2 weeks of it now as it usually equals out over the coure of the season.

[messageboardsuperhero]

They're making diving catches and were finding holes in the infield earlier in the game with groundballs- this is just not our day.

And it doesn't help that we're competing like a bunch of pussies either.

[Todd4State]

Yeah that does sound crazy. Garner can catch and Hump can play 3rd. It's real ****ing simple in the infield. Finding the best 3 OF is the question.

I don't think Garner can catch. That's the problem. We need power and guys that can hit. Not walk.

[HancockCountyDog]

That's baseball. When it's going bad plays like that are made against you. I'll take 2 weeks of it now as it usually equals out over the coure of the season.

It would be one thing if it was happening all game - that was their first real defensive play that I have seen.

**** this pisses me off;

[maroonmania]

Holy shitballs, what a damn catch. All you can do is tip your cap and realize it ain't our day

Yep, so far it ain't our season.

[rrog17]

We aren't very good. Period.

[I seen it dawg]

They're making diving catches and were finding holes in the infield earlier in the game with groundballs- this is just not our day.

And it doesn't help that we're competing like a bunch of pussies either.

And that can be controlled. Players have to be accountable to it.

[Bullmutt]

Damn, our offense today seems like groundball after groundball and pop-up after pop-up! Will someone who's actually seeing these games clue us in as to whether their staff is actually that good.

[I seen it dawg]

They are pounding the zone and we are getting ourselves out. We aren't a very good hitting team right now.

[CadaverDawg]

I've seen more runs after a trip to Taco Bell than our team has put up so far this season. Time to remove heads from asses, and play some damn inspired baseball. The Big Fella, Pirtle, and Detz need to take this team by the balls and have a come to Jesus meeting

[maroonmania]

Sad part is that HC had not even played a game until this series started. Hard to believe we are going to split this dang series with them.

[CadaverDawg]

30 hits for Holy Cross in the last 3 games.

[Maroon Diapers]

Damn, our offense today seems like groundball after groundball and pop-up after pop-up! Will someone who's actually seeing these games clue us in as to whether their staff is actually that good.

Their fastballs are mid 80s and I'm not seeing Ross Mitchell type movement. We just look dead and lethargic. I don't understand it. 1 run off Holy Cross pitching is f'ing embarrassing.

[MarketingBully01]

6-1 HC with our worst game of the season played today. They have stranded 9 runners. This could be a much worse blow out then it already is. This should drop us out of the top 25.

[I seen it dawg]

I've seen more runs after a trip to Taco Bell than our team has put up so far this season. Time to remove heads from asses, and play some damn inspired baseball. The Big Fella, Pirtle, and Detz need to take this team by the balls and have a come to Jesus meeting

These 2 needs to especially get their ass in gear.

[Will James]

What absolutely infuriates me is not maximizing your chances to win. It's really ****ing agitating when John handcuffs us. Tatum and Shelly is the kind of shit I speak of. Our first inning Cohen meddling is what I speak of.

If we play our best 9 and throw our best arms and lose... Ok. But losing while not MAXIMIZING our chances is what ha driven me nuts.

[CadaverDawg]

Kendall Graveman and Adam Frazier were a couple of quiet leaders that we have to replace. I think we are battling a lack of leadership right now. I know it may not be their personality type, but Pirtle and Detz and Rea have got to be vocal in getting things turned around. They can't just be silent and expect these freshmen to step up.

[It_Could_Happen]

We have gotten schooled in every aspect of the game today.

[HancockCountyDog]

Talk about going out with a whimper.

We need to get our heads screwed on straight - Michigan State who comes to town next weekend beat Oregon State yesterday.

[I seen it dawg]

This is where they just need to drop their shit and just start running. Awful.

[CadaverDawg]

We have the power of a Junior High team outside of Rea. Bradford and Hann just hit the ball as hard as they can and the outfielders caught it on a sprint towards the infield.

Well, that was a shit sandwich. Glad I wasted part of my weekend watching the piss poor effort our team showed. The Intense Bastard better wake these little titty babies up.

[MarketingBully01]

First blow out loss of the season. Doesn't make you feel good about where we are. Looks like John's pep talks just aren't working. We may need players like Wes Rea, Brett Pirtle, and Alex Detz to get on these kids asses. 4-4 with this schedule just isn't cutting it.

[Todd4State]

Talk about going out with a whimper.

We need to get our heads screwed on straight - Michigan State who comes to town next weekend beat Oregon State yesterday.

We only play them twice at least. We will pitch Woodruff and Fitts against them I'm sure.

[Todd4State]

First blow out loss of the season. Doesn't make you feel good about where we are. Looks like John's pep talks just aren't working. We may need players like Wes Rea, Brett Pirtle, and Alex Detz to get on these kids asses. 4-4 with this schedule just isn't cutting it.

This was the first game that we've really gotten beat because our pitchers were hit. Two of the other losses was due to defense and then the other we lost to the national pitcher of the week. The only silver lining is the pitchers that did get hit won't pitch a lot for us this year-and Shelly is probably done for the year.

[Bullmutt]

Feels like we were mugged by the mafioso this weekend. In every game it seems those four Italiano kids were generating offense for them. Timely hitting by them in every game. And I know I'm exaggerating, but it feels like we have had more wild pitches thus far thei season than all last year!!

[preachermatt83]

People were whining about Cohen, guaranteeing 12th place finishes, etc., during the first month of each of the last 3 seasons, and Cohen always made those people look like idiots.

Why is everyone doing it again? Does no one ever learn? Are you trying for a 4th straight year of looking like a moron? We will be fine...

we started 17-0 last year dude, nobody was talking about finishing 12th last year.

[Will James]

Garner Humphreys and Heck have to start. This is getting ridiculous.

[HancockCountyDog]

Feels like we were mugged by the mafioso this weekend. In every game it seems those four Italiano kids were generating offense for them. Timely hitting by them in every game. And I know I'm exaggerating, but it feels like we have had more wild pitches thus far thei season than all last year!!

The catching situation has to be fixed. We play 6 games next week, our bats have to come alive, because we will be throwing some guys that will give up hits and walks.

[Will James]

On the year for Jacob Lindgren

5 IP
0 hits
11 K's

He has thrown 7% of our innings thus far. Thats absurd. **** the experiment and start his ass. Needs to be at least 15% of our workload this year.

[msstate7]

On the year for Jacob Lindgren

5 IP
0 hits
11 K's

He has thrown 7% of our innings thus far. Thats absurd. **** the experiment and start his ass. Needs to be at least 15% of our workload this year.

On Friday nights. Lindgren is our best pitcher

[HancockCountyDog]

On the year for Jacob Lindgren

5 IP
0 hits
11 K's

He has thrown 7% of our innings thus far. Thats absurd. **** the experiment and start his ass. Needs to be at least 15% of our workload this year.

Totally agree - I would expect him to have a big outing next weekend - Hopefully get a start.

[HancockCountyDog]

Is this true? Matthew Stevens just posted this on twitter:

"Holy Cross, w/ 0 athletic scholarships & w/o 13 players from last season’s team, just took 2 of 4 at No. 7 Miss. State to open 2014 season."

[bully99]

And the HC said they should have won the series because they were the better team.And we haven't even started playing the big boys.

[maroonmania]

we started 17-0 last year dude, nobody was talking about finishing 12th last year.

Exactly, and in year 6 our program should be beyond the point of stumbling out of the gate like this AT HOME against mid-level competition. If we are truly trying to get to elite status this year may actually end up being a step BACK in the process. Like you said, last year our team looked MUCH more polished early in the season and we really didn't lose to any weak teams.