State @ LSU game thread

[Coach34]

for the 8 of us watching tonight

[Coach34]

The passes we try to make are mind-bottling

[Coach34]

we're beatdown...you can see it

[Dawg61]

Good start 12-0

[quickstrike2]

Man what an awful start, 16-1. Back to baseball.

[RossDawg82]

We are horrible

[Dawg61]

I knew this was going to be a blowout but this is absurd

[msstate7]

Ray has lost the team

[RossDawg82]

Is the baseball game on the radio in Starkville or is it just the basketball

[grinnindawg]

We look tired.

[Dawg61]

I love that they've got Ray mic'ed up. They are trying to show us he can coach.

[Dawg61]

Ray has lost the team

Guess he can go get 4 shooters then if they're going to quit on him

[Coach34]

If I was Ray I'd throw a ****ing chair so they would run me and I wouldnt have to watch that shit.

[Political Hack]

Ray has lost the team

that's my only concern about the rest of this season. that's the only thing left to protect.

[Bothrops]

These guys act like they don't even like playing basketball.

[HailState39110]

He has lost the locker room. They aren't hustling. This one bout to get UGLY

[Dawg61]

If I was Ray I'd throw a ****ing chair so they would run me and I wouldnt have to watch that shit.

Haha Bobby Knight tried to tell Ray how to do everything else. Just blame it on Knight

[grinnindawg]

Bit more energy now.

[Dawg61]

These guys act like they don't even like playing basketball.

They just aren't very smart. All of them except maybe Ready. Bear sighting.

[Dawg61]

I love Bear Wilson

[Bothrops]

Bear is the charm

[Brad Stevens]

At least IJ can play

[grinnindawg]

Bear knows how to rebound. Immediately starts looking for someone to put a backside on.

[Dawg61]

Yessss!!!! Ready and Wilson looking good!!! 26-19

[Coach34]

It's going to be ugly the rest of the season- not sure why people are surprised

[Dawg61]

C34 Bear looks damn good on D right now

[Coach34]

playing ok...I'm concerned about him having headaches though...what the hell is up with that?

[mparkerfd20]

Croom 2.0... Thanks Stands

[Dawg61]

playing ok...I'm concerned about him having headaches though...what the hell is up with that?

He had a root canal or something two weeks ago. Looks fine tonight

[tcdog70]

Wilson guards, plays physical, rebounds and brings some juice, but Coach 34 don't like him plus he can make a free throw.

[tcdog70]

At least IJ can play

I'll,agree. He has some skills. Wish he wasn't as short. Needs to work his defense

[tcdog70]

It's going to be ugly the rest of the season- not sure why people are surprised


I'm not surprised. It's been pretty un attractive all year.

[JOHNHEVESYMADE]

Serious question that needs to be addressed. In my opinion, we have one more winnable game in South Carolina. If State loses that, then Ray will have lost 13 games in a row including the SEC tourney game. If we lose out, does Rick Ray get fired? I don't see how you can sell any season tickets if we lose 13 in a row. Stricklin might be a marketing guru but you can't market that. Yes we will be better next year, but can you get any worse? Call me negative, call me whatever but this is a hypothetical that could very easily happen.

[Dawg61]

Colin and Roq get benched or foul trouble? Both didn't play the last 14 minutes. Wilson got about 10 minutes that half. Thomas is nonexistent on offense. Can we get him some ***** or something. His confidence is so fragile.

[Coach34]

I love Wilson at WR

[Dawg61]

I'd like to see Moore get some of Cunningham's minutes

[tcdog70]

Colin and Roq get benched or foul trouble? Both didn't play the last 14 minutes. Wilson got about 10 minutes that half. Thomas is nonexistent on offense. Can we get him some ***** or something. His confidence is so fragile.

They are too finesse. We need physical play against LSU.they looked like girls trying to guard and rebound

[Coach34]

Ray has zero chance at being fired

He has 1 recruiting class on campus
Stands players smoke dope and had to be removed...or in Steele's case refused to play- that is not on Ray

Zero chance Ray gets fired

[Dawg61]

Sword going off

[Raytoraid83]

Ray has zero chance at being fired

He has 1 recruiting class on campus
Stands players smoke dope and had to be removed...or in Steele's case refused to play- that is not on Ray

Zero chance Ray gets fired

How you selling tickets next year?

[Raytoraid83]

How you selling tickets next year?

But I think he'll be back too

[Coach34]

How you selling tickets next year?

tickets are literally not even being considered- it's principle at this point...and people will come back when we have a full team that has a better year next year

Ray is going to get 4 years

[Dawg61]

I've never seen a player foul out with about 5 minutes played. Good game John Travolta.

[Raytoraid83]

tickets are literally not even being considered- it's principle at this point...and people will come back when we have a full team that has a better year next year

Ray is going to get 4 years

If we have no improvement next year there is a 0% chance he gets 4 yrs, I don't care what your "sources" say.

[Coach34]

If we have no improvement next year there is a 0% chance he gets 4 yrs, I don't care what your "sources" say.

Well, there are people counting on us making improvement with an older team at full strength...nobody with a brain thinks this team will be 3-15 in the SEC next year

[Dawg61]

27 for Sword so far

[HailState39110]

If I were AD I would tell Ray he needs a minimum of 7 league wins next year for him to feel comfortable about getting a 4th year. it's time to start to putting some pressure on him to produce.

[Coach34]

Ray knows he has to put a team on the floor that performs better in 2015

But our Admin is happy and supportive of the way he has eliminated the drama and drug use from the program. It's not Ray's fault he has gotten production from 1 player- 1 ****ing player- leftover from Stands. That's why our program is in the shape it;s in

[chef dixon]

We need Sword to get some swag and be our main guy going forward. I hope he can keep his head up, he always seems pretty frustrated out there. Not that I blame him.

[Dawg61]

Ray knows he has to put a team on the floor that performs better in 2015

But our Admin is happy and supportive of the way he has eliminated the drama and drug use from the program. It's not Ray's fault he has gotten production from 1 player- 1 ****ing player- leftover from Stands. That's why our program is in the shape it;s in

That's also not Stansbury's fault. All those players left after Stansbury was fired. It's nobodies fault.

[chef dixon]

On another note, not sure an opposing team has missed a free throw against us in a long time.

[Raytoraid83]

Ray knows he has to put a team on the floor that performs better in 2015

But our Admin is happy and supportive of the way he has eliminated the drama and drug use from the program. It's not Ray's fault he has gotten production from 1 player- 1 ****ing player- leftover from Stands. That's why our program is in the shape it;s in

Haha without "Stands" you don't have Chicken, Gavin, or Fred(our best defender).

[Coach34]

That's also not Stansbury's fault. All those players left after Stansbury was fired. It's nobodies fault.

Thats not true. They are the reason Stands had to go. We had an extreme drug problem in our basketball program. It had to be corrected- the players chose drugs over playing basketball- that means severe problem.

[Dawg61]

30 for Sword

[Coach34]

Haha without "Stands" you don't have Chicken, Gavin, or Fred(our best defender).

Doesnt every program in the nation get the same thing when they change coaches?

[esplanade91]

Serious question that needs to be addressed. In my opinion, we have one more winnable game in South Carolina. If State loses that, then Ray will have lost 13 games in a row including the SEC tourney game. If we lose out, does Rick Ray get fired? I don't see how you can sell any season tickets if we lose 13 in a row. Stricklin might be a marketing guru but you can't market that. Yes we will be better next year, but can you get any worse? Call me negative, call me whatever but this is a hypothetical that could very easily happen.

Do you actually believe Stricklin is a marketing guru?

[Dawg61]

Thats not true. They are the reason Stands had to go. We had an extreme drug problem in our basketball program. It had to be corrected- the players chose drugs over playing basketball- that means severe problem.

Eh we did have a drug problem. I'm surprised Marshall didn't beg Stansbury for a spot.

[tcdog70]

Ray knows he has to put a team on the floor that performs better in 2015

But our Admin is happy and supportive of the way he has eliminated the drama and drug use from the program. It's not Ray's fault he has gotten production from 1 player- 1 ****ing player- leftover from Stands. That's why our program is in the shape it;s in


Coach , what happened to you prediction of 6-7 SEC wins. When Ray sux next year are you still gonna blame Stans? U can spin it ever how you want but he has more than 1 recruiting year. Do you think if you just keep saying the same stupid shit it will be true. Ware and Chicken are two quality players, both Stansburys recruit. Shit Mullen has recruited better than Ray on this team.

[Coach34]

Coach , what happened to you prediction of 6-7 SEC wins. When Ray sux next year are you still gonna blame Stans? U can spin it ever how you want but he has more than 1 recruiting year. Do you think if you just keep saying the same stupid shit it will be true. Ware and Chicken are two quality players, both Stansburys recruit. Shit Mullen has recruited better than Ray on this team.

You're an idiot- plain and simple

[chef dixon]

Sword just denied a JOB dunk attempt. Sick.

[Dawg61]

33 points for Sword. 0 points for Flat Shot.

[Dawg61]

Can't decide which is worse, our shooting or our defense?

[Brad Stevens]

They are lights out from the 3 and free throw line tonight. That never helps

[Dallas_Dawg]

I feel pretty confident that Ray gets another year as long as our players don't go all Malice in the Palace after losing every game here on out***
I strongly disagree with C34 though on Wilson. He gave us good minutes tonight and a spark off the bench. After tonight, I am glad he is playing basketball on our team. He hustles and isn't afraid to bang down low with taller players. He knows how to combat his size disadvantage by using good technique when boxing out.
He also made his first 4 free throws (at least.)
There's another 6'5" power forward from Alabama that made a living down low and grabbing boards. While Wilson is no Barkley and has a future in the NFL, it is something to consider when evaluating Wilson's ability to contribute.

[Dawg61]

They are lights out from the 3 and free throw line tonight. That never helps

I was going to say defense. You just confirmed it for me. LSU has 92 points. That can't happen.

[Dawg61]

This goes without saying but I was very pleased with Bear Wilson's play tonight. He's better than Fred Thomas.

[chef dixon]

I think the Troutman kid that was mentioned earlier today is a must get if he can shoot as well as reported AND he is already visiting us. He's 6'4' so no complaining about being "too small to shoot." We have gotten to the point tonight where we don't even try to shoot jump shots because we are so terrible.

[Intramural All-American]

Our problem is we have no size. Borchert fouling out doesn't help. Our guards had to help on the big men all night long opening up their shooters and they didn't miss. This is one reason why just having Houston and Ndoye next year will help out in a huge way.

We actually played well tonight taking away the turnovers. We started off terribly, but really played solid the rest of the game, we had just dug too big of a hole. We shot 50% from the field. We had multiple opportunities to give up tonight, and we fought back every time.

[tcdog70]

You're an idiot- plain and simple

Coach you are a bad ass name caller behind that keyboard. And you stanch on Basketball shows who the idiot might be. Your hustling defense playing Rick rays just gave up 90 plus. Everything you expound has proven to be bullshit. When you can't make a point you call people shitty little names. Pied piper is that because you blow?

[Brad Stevens]

Our shooting wasn't pathetic tonight. 50% from the floor and 72% from the FT line. However, we rarely get second chance points and we give up way too many of them every game. Goodness, it will be nice to have more big bodies next year

[Coach34]

Coach you are a bad ass name caller behind that keyboard. And you stanch on Basketball shows who the idiot might be. Your hustling defense playing Rick rays just gave up 90 plus. Everything you expound has proven to be bullshit. When you can't make a point you call people shitty little names. Pied piper is that because you blow?

Tread lightly mf'er

This year is going is going to continue to suck. We are biding time until next year. If we suck next year- then you can talk some shit. We are where we are because Ray was left with nothing. Next year- you wont be so mouthy- I assure you

[Coach34]

Our problem is we have no size. Borchert fouling out doesn't help. Our guards had to help on the big men all night long opening up their shooters and they didn't miss. This is one reason why just having Houston and Ndoye next year will help out in a huge way.

We actually played well tonight taking away the turnovers. We started off terribly, but really played solid the rest of the game, we had just dug too big of a hole. We shot 50% from the field. We had multiple opportunities to give up tonight, and we fought back every time.

thank god for a decent basketball poster

[Coach34]

Our shooting wasn't pathetic tonight. 50% from the floor and 72% from the FT line. However, we rarely get second chance points and we give up way too many of them every game. Goodness, it will be nice to have more big bodies next year

thank god for a 2nd good basketball poster

[tcdog70]

Tread lightly mf'er

This year is going is going to continue to suck. We are biding time until next year. If we suck next year- then you can talk some shit. We are where we are because Ray was left with nothing. Next year- you wont be so mouthy- I assure you


I hear you Mr badass. As long as you assure me.

[whosyourdawgy]

Why was LSU playing man to man D on us? Craig Sword eats up man defense. We need or bring somebody in this off season and get him a mid range jumper. Hell, if he could shoot a 15 footer, he would average 20 plus a game. LSU should be a better team than they are now. They have some very good interior players, a dang good point guard. The freshman of the year or should be anyway, and Stringer can get hot and fill it up from the outside. No excuse dor them not to have a. Better record than they do. Their inside game man handled us all night and it wasn't JOB3 either. Well I think he did have 5 assist when our guards came to help and he kicked it to wide open 3 pointers. I think LSU had 8 3's and he had assists on most of those. We just aren't going to be competitive on the road But we did play much better after the 24-4 srtArt and didn't leave embarrassed by 40. Can we get a W before the end of the season? Where can we get a W?

[Dawg61]

Wrong night to pick on Sword's shooting. He had 33 points. How many did Fred Thomas have?

[whosyourdawgy]

We give up so many easy buckets a game it's sickening. The zone D will give a few easy put backs on rebounds but we give up open layups within the zone way too easily. We haven't figured out yet that a throw goes in to the free throw line area, everybody doesn't need to crash up to get that man. We do and they dump it down low and an easy layin or dunk. Frustrating to watch it over and over throughout a game. I'm not looking this up but I would bet we are giving up a higher point per game in SEC play than we have in a while. We can't stop anybody from scoring

[thf24]

This goes without saying but I was very pleased with Bear Wilson's play tonight. He's better than Fred Thomas.

I actually agree with you in that Bear should flip minutes with Thomas at this point. Bear should be at the point now where he understands what we're trying to do on defense enough so that he's not a liability. As long as Thomas's streaky shooting continues (I know I argued a month ago that he was improving, but it's fairly obvious his good January numbers were an anomaly), he's not bringing anything to the table that Bear isn't, and Bear adds rebounding and a little more toughness. I still think Thomas will end up being a good player for us if he can just find his confidence and work with a shooting guru over the summer on his mechanics a little, but for now, he's just not contributing a whole lot other than good defense.