Mullen may have changed his mind about hiring an OC

[Coach34]

@MaroonWyatt 36m
RT @coachingsearch: Per source, among the coaches Dan Mullen is considering is former Wake Forest OC Steed Lobotzke


Obviously Mullen is going to run the offense and call plays- but a guy bringing some new ideas to help gameplan is never a bad idea...wonder how he croots?

[Dawgowar]

@MaroonWyatt 36m
RT @coachingsearch: Per source, among the coaches Dan Mullen is considering is former Wake Forest OC Steed Lobotzke


Obviously Mullen is going to run the offense and call plays- but a guy bringing some new ideas to help gameplan is never a bad idea...wonder how he croots?

No opinion about the guy, just wonder what Mullen is really looking for with the OC title? Why not just make a guy QB coach or Passing or Running Game coordinator?

[Coach34]

No opinion about the guy, just wonder what Mullen is really looking for with the OC title? Why not just make a guy QB coach or Passing or Running Game coordinator?

And that may be what happens...

[mcain31]

I don't know about his recruiting, but I do know that Lobotzke is an innovator with the triple option from his time at Air Force Academy. I'd be expecting a new wrinkles in the run game.

[Dawgowar]

Info -

http://www.wakeforestsports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/lobotzke_steed00.html

[Coach34]

I don't know about his recruiting, but I do know that Lobotzke is an innovator with the triple option from his time at Air Force Academy. I'd be expecting a new wrinkles in the run game.

I just got wood...that would be awesome for our offense with our personnel

[godlluB]

Steed Lobotzke? Is that his real name, or porn name? I've never heard of the guy and this would be Mullen's best hire ever.

[Dawgowar]

I don't know about his recruiting, but I do know that Lobotzke is an innovator with the triple option from his time at Air Force Academy. I'd be expecting a new wrinkles in the run game.

Early in Mullen's tenure I read an article about how he had discussed possibilities of integrating aspects of the Wishbone/Triple Option style the service academies run for Urban. Think it was GT HC Johnson, then at Navy. Air Force has always been more of a pure Wishbone. Appears he was a Grad Assistant at Air Force when we laid a turd there under JWS.

[preachermatt83]

STEED!! haha!! seriously we can only get a guy that was fired from a sucky ACC school? I don't think so. I bet its just for a ST/TE coach. The tweet doesn't indicate it's for an OC position at all. He worked with TE's at Wake.

[mcain31]

I just got wood...that would be awesome for our offense with our personnel

Here is an interview he did a while back. He talks about his coaching philosophy and influences: http://tonydemeo.com/articles/question-and-answer-with-steed-lobotzke/

[preachermatt83]

Im looking for it to play out like this if we hire this guy.. Gonzalez WR/Passing game coord. and Hevesy OL/Running Game Coord. and STEED TE/Sp teams coord. .... With Dan calling the plays on offense.

[CadaverDawg]

I just got wood...that would be awesome for our offense with our personnel

I was thinking the same thing. Minus the wood. Maybe a Chubb though.**

[Dawgowar]

STEED!! haha!! seriously we can only get a guy that was fired from a sucky ACC school? I don't think so. I bet its just for a ST/TE coach. The tweet doesn't indicate it's for an OC position at all. He worked with TE's at Wake.

He hasn't been fired. He was one of the reasons they made some good runs under Grobe. If we can salivate over the offense of some Sun Belt types why not the OC of a team that had not won the ACC before? Sounds familiar to our situation.

[Coach34]

STEED!! haha!! seriously we can only get a guy that was fired from a sucky ACC school? I don't think so. I bet its just for a ST/TE coach. The tweet doesn't indicate it's for an OC position at all. He worked with TE's at Wake.

We would be hiring him for his expertise in the triple option..terrible post is terrible

[preachermatt83]

We would be hiring him for his expertise in the triple option..terrible post is terrible

we shall see.. just don't think there is anyway this guy gets the title of OC

[Coach34]

And he may very not- I'm not saying he is.

But I do know we plan to make Gonzo the passing game coordinator- it would make sense if we hired a run game coordinator and have Co-OC's

[chef dixon]

Not sure how excited I'd be about trying to do some triple option. We are just now getting pretty good at what we already have with Dak, and I don't know if we should try to water it down because I think it can be plenty effective already. If you don't devote a solid chunk of practice to something like the triple option its kind of risky to run in game don't you think?

I see what you guys are saying to throw some wrinkles into what we already have and maybe that could work, just not the biggest triple option fan. All those teams are no better than mediocre, granted they are pretty one dimensional. I thank god everyday that I wasn't born a Georgia Tech fan.

[preachermatt83]

And he may very not- I'm not saying he is.

But I do know we plan to make Gonzo the passing game coordinator- it would make sense if we hired a run game coordinator and have Co-OC's

Hevesy will be the run game coordinator. This guy at best will be TE/ST coord. just my opinion. Ive been wrong before. Once I think . haha

[Coach34]

Not sure how excited I'd be about trying to do some triple option. We are just now getting pretty good at what we already have with Dak, and I don't know if we should try to water it down because I think it can be plenty effective already. If you don't devote a solid chunk of practice to something like the triple option its kind of risky to run in game don't you think?

I see what you guys are saying to throw some wrinkles into what we already have and maybe that could work, just not the biggest triple option fan. All those teams are no better than mediocre, granted they are pretty one dimensional. I thank god everyday that I wasn't born a Georgia Tech fan.

Auburn's run game is based off the triple option- it's just not run out of the wishbone or double wing. We wouldnt go Ga Tech- we would change our run game to be more like Auburn's

[BogeyGolfer]

@MaroonWyatt 36m
RT @coachingsearch: Per source, among the coaches Dan Mullen is considering is former Wake Forest OC Steed Lobotzk

Obviously Mullen is going to run the offense and call plays- but a guy bringing some new ideas to help gameplan is never a bad idea...wonder how he croots?

I would welcome fresh ideas in our offense... Something other teams haven't seen on film and make us more dynamic.

[Bark]

And he may very not- I'm not saying he is.

But I do know we plan to make Gonzo the passing game coordinator- it would make sense if we hired a run game coordinator and have Co-OC's

Hevesy already has the title run game coordinator and has since 2009.

[Todd4State]

I think what is most likely to happen if we do indeed hire Steed is we would make him the OC and then maybe promote Gonzalez to WR/ST coach. I'm pretty sure that Billy coached ST at one of his stops.

At least that's what I would do. That makes a lot more sense to me given our situation as opposed to having an OC, Hevesey as running game coordinator and then Gonzalez as passing game coordinator. And then a grad assistant coaching special teams.

Also, what would Steed coach for us? Sallach does TE's and we have Knox doing running backs. And I don't know if we even have anyone on the roster listed as a FB. As far as I can tell Steed doesn't have any special teams experience.

I'm all for someone bringing in some new and different ideas. I've expressed before that I would like to see some wishbone on the goal line and I'm not real sure why no one other than the service academies and GT do that on the goal line- and of course for those schools the flexbone is their base offense. BUT we have to fix special teams. That's much more important than adding some wrinkles on offense.

[Todd4State]

Auburn's run game is based off the triple option- it's just not run out of the wishbone or double wing. We wouldnt go Ga Tech- we would change our run game to be more like Auburn's

Exactly. Some of the flexbone teams have started to run out of the gun some as well.

[Todd4State]

He hasn't been fired. He was one of the reasons they made some good runs under Grobe. If we can salivate over the offense of some Sun Belt types why not the OC of a team that had not won the ACC before? Sounds familiar to our situation.

Except that we can get even bigger, faster players.

But yes- Dak with a wishbone backfield of Robinson, Shumpert, and Aeries Williams and then Hutchinson and Sameul at TE. That's a pretty darn good personnel grouping.

[AROB44]

OK, help me out here with some more technical points. Doesn't Aub have wider line splits than we have? And....does that really make a difference? I seem to remember some disagreements on this when Emory was the coach.

[Bully Dee Williams]

The Big Lebotzke?

[PendingTransaction]

I've told y'all over and over...if anyone gets the OC title, it will be HEVESY!!!

[dawgoneyall]

Always thought a guy who could pass above average and run the triple option would be unbeatable.

[Big4Dawg]

This is what I see happening:

Steed Lobotzke coming in for OC/TE coach.
Stallach to office jobs.
Hire a ST coach.

[AlSwearengen]

Not sure how excited I'd be about trying to do some triple option. We are just now getting pretty good at what we already have with Dak, and I don't know if we should try to water it down because I think it can be plenty effective already. If you don't devote a solid chunk of practice to something like the triple option its kind of risky to run in game don't you think?

I see what you guys are saying to throw some wrinkles into what we already have and maybe that could work, just not the biggest triple option fan. All those teams are no better than mediocre, granted they are pretty one dimensional. I thank god everyday that I wasn't born a Georgia Tech fan.


Dak at QB, Robinson, Aeris, and Shump in the backfield? I wouldn't mind a little triple option.

[Coach34]

Dak at QB, Robinson, Aeris, and Shump in the backfield? I wouldn't mind a little triple option.

We will be running the triple with Dak, JRob, and Tubby coming in motion as the pitch man. We wont use 3 RB's

[Todd4State]

We will be running the triple with Dak, JRob, and Tubby coming in motion as the pitch man. We wont use 3 RB's

We should do it with 3 RB's some of the time. It's old school, but it would be cool.

[deltadawg99]

Gonzales was ST coach at Utah. Hevesy is already run game coordinator so here is my best guess.
Gonzales to Passing Game Coordinator/ ST Coordinator
Lobotzke to OC/TE Coach
Sallach to office recruiting job

[Todd4State]

Gonzales was ST coach at Utah. Hevesy is already run game coordinator so here is my best guess.
Gonzales to Passing Game Coordinator/ ST Coordinator
Lobotzke to OC/TE Coach
Sallach to office recruiting job

Under that scenario we would still have a vacancy. But I think you might be close.

Dan- HC/OC/ maybe QB coach

Lobotzke replaces Les and coaches TE's and H-backs. Maybe he is the OC, but we don't know that is necessarily the case. Wake Forest is undergoing some coaching turnover right now.

Hevesey- OL and running game coordinator.

Sallach moves to the office and we either hire a special teams coach or we hire a QB coach.

Gonzales- WR and either co- OC or ST coach.

Knox- RB coach.

Defense- stays the same. Collins- DC/LB coach, Turner- DL coach, Hughes- Safeties/Recruiting Coordinator, and Townsend- CB.

[MabenMaroon]

STEED!! haha!! seriously we can only get a guy that was fired from a sucky ACC school? I don't think so. I bet its just for a ST/TE coach. The tweet doesn't indicate it's for an OC position at all. He worked with TE's at Wake.

You might want to do a little research before you post the above nonsense. His boss, Jim Grobe, retired and they hired a new HC, that usually entails an overhaul of the whole staff. Lobo has been their OC for the past 8 or so years and has had some fine offenses and an ACC title in his tenure. Was on staff at our Music City bowl game and they gave us a pretty good game. His QB's have put up some pretty good numbers. And yes he can recruit pretty well. Also he is an Air Force grad.

[preachermatt83]

You might want to do a little research before you post the above nonsense. His boss, Jim Grobe, retired and they hired a new HC, that usually entails an overhaul of the whole staff. Lobo has been their OC for the past 8 or so years and has had some fine offenses and an ACC title in his tenure. Was on staff at our Music City bowl game and they gave us a pretty good game. His QB's have put up some pretty good numbers. And yes he can recruit pretty well. Also he is an Air Force grad.

looks like you are the one who needs to do some research... Grobe was fired and the new coach didn't retain Lobo(fired him). So when you learn something come back and post, until then just go back to reading.

[Todd4State]

looks like you are the one who needs to do some research... Grobe was fired and the new coach didn't retain Lobo(fired him). So when you learn something come back and post, until then just go back to reading.

Just because he was under a staff that was fired/resigned whatever the case may be- that doesn't make Lobo a bad coach. Heck, a lot of Auburn's coaching staff used to be under Croom and some point in time. That is only one of many examples throughout the country every year.

A coach leaves and brings in his own guys. Just like a Baptist church. A lot of times you get a new minister and then before long the music minister follows him and whomever else. A coach leaves and a lot of times most of the staff leaves with them- unless they are someone that is really tied to the school like Felker is for us. It's just how that business is.

[preachermatt83]

Just because he was under a staff that was fired/resigned whatever the case may be- that doesn't make Lobo a bad coach. Heck, a lot of Auburn's coaching staff used to be under Croom and some point in time. That is only one of many examples throughout the country every year.

A coach leaves and brings in his own guys. Just like a Baptist church. A lot of times you get a new minister and then before long the music minister follows him and whomever else. A coach leaves and a lot of times most of the staff leaves with them- unless they are someone that is really tied to the school like Felker is for us. It's just how that business is.

oh I agree completely.. Im not saying he is not a good coach, he may very well be but I am just hoping Dan continues to call plays and rather than hire this guy as an OC, just to say you have an oc, use him in a different way.

[Todd4State]

oh I agree completely.. Im not saying he is not a good coach, he may very well be but I am just hoping Dan continues to call plays and rather than hire this guy as an OC, just to say you have an oc, use him in a different way.

There is no question that Dan is going to call plays. You can rest easy on that.

[War Machine Dawg]

oh I agree completely.. Im not saying he is not a good coach, he may very well be but I am just hoping Dan continues to call plays and rather than hire this guy as an OC, just to say you have an oc, use him in a different way.

You are turrable. Dan will definitely call plays. That isn't even in doubt. The OC title would just be a way to get the guy some extra money and get a rub from the success of the offense. Steed would essentially just be a younger, more energetic "Les." He'd handle some of the game planning and bring in some fresh ideas, specifically in the running game. It'd be a hell of a hire, imo.

[War Machine Dawg]

This is what I see happening:

Steed Lobotzke coming in for OC/TE coach.
Stallach to office jobs.
Hire a ST coach.

I think you're onto something with this. Just hope like hell it plays out this way. Sallach is Mullen's bff, after all. But a legit ST coach who can fix our Special Ed quality "Special" Teams could be the difference in 8 wins and 10 next season. STs were the difference in at least 1 win this past season.

[Really Clark?]

looks like you are the one who needs to do some research... Grobe was fired and the new coach didn't retain Lobo(fired him). So when you learn something come back and post, until then just go back to reading.

No. He resigned.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/acc/2013/12/02/coach-jim-grobe-is-resigning-at-wake-forest/3810269/