Dawgs vs SWAC

[Coach34]

Beans in the 2-hole...Seton Hall catching

[parabrave]

A little shakeup?? I like Reese in the 3 spot. He a power hitter and gives him a chance at knocking in more runs. Good game for MM to see what he has for a starter and please no more SWAC games. We get nothing playing them/

[StarkVegasSteve]

A little shakeup?? I like Reese in the 3 spot. He a power hitter and gives him a chance at knocking in more runs. Good game for MM to see what he has for a starter and please no more SWAC games. We get nothing playing them/

We really don't. It's an RPI killer and ends up being either HR Derby or we struggle to adjust to a 71 mph fastball and can't score for 6 innings.

[Coach34]

Every SEC team plays SWAC games and thats not going away. We help fund their programs

[WSOPdawg]

Anybody else's audio "muffled" on the telecast?

[HoopsDawg]

Every SEC team plays SWAC games and thats not going away. We help fund their programs

1 is ok. 3 is too many. This was a Lemonis schedule. We will see what BOC does.

[State82]

Ugly game for the Tigers. 5 errors. 12-0 in bottom of the 4th.

[BeardoMSU]

Chuck has the Cerantola gene...

[Pinto]

Sully needs to sit and reset. We have plenty of DH candidates.

[State82]

17-1 bottom of the 6th

[Coach34]

Parker hits the ball about as hard as you possibly can.

[State82]

Fortunately BOC said Ace is fine and pulling him was just precautionary to ice it and not aggravate anything.

[EdwardDrayton]

After that yawner hopefully we'll have a little excitement with the WBC.

[maroonmania]

Every SEC team plays SWAC games and thats not going away. We help fund their programs

One of these per season is plenty. We certainly don't need 3 of them. Not only do they drag down the RPI they are a total waste of time because they don't help us get better. We might as well play a high school team. USM doesn't play any SWAC games.

[Coach34]

One of these per season is plenty. We certainly don't need 3 of them. Not only do they drag down the RPI they are a total waste of time because they don't help us get better. We might as well play a high school team. USM doesn't play any SWAC games.

These games allow us to play the whole team midweek which does make us better and keeps players happy with some playing time. Who gives a shit what the Nasty Bunch does? They dont pay like we do- thats why SWAC's play the SEC teams- for the money.

[R2Dawg]

Parker hits the ball about as hard as you possibly can.

Parker can flat swing it. Lot to look forward to.

[maroonmania]

These games allow us to play the whole team midweek which does make us better and keeps players happy with some playing time. Who gives a shit what the Nasty Bunch does? They dont pay like we do- thats why SWAC's play the SEC teams- for the money.

Then let's just play Delta State or Mississippi College. Better competition and we can accomplish the same thing without it even factoring into the RPI since they aren't Div 1.

[Coach34]

Then let's just play Delta State or Mississippi College. Better competition and we can accomplish the same thing without it even factoring into the RPI since they aren't Div 1.

The 1990's ended. It's rare D-1 plays D-2 in baseball now

RPI is only problem in the SEC if you lose midweeks. Playing SWAC is not the problem

[The Federalist Engineer]

The 1990's ended. It's rare D-1 plays D-2 in baseball now

RPI is only problem in the SEC if you lose midweeks. Playing SWAC is not the problem

We are better off playing MLB teams in Spring Training. If the boys get run-ruled by the Atlanta Braves that won't factor in RPI but the development is awesome. Even playing A and AA is better than SWAC. Doesn't Memphis have a Cardinals farm club.

[Coach34]

LSU/Grambling 3-1 in the 5th

[BeardoMSU]

Man...SC is dogshit. What a terrible hire that was.

[BeardoMSU]

SCLSU Mud Dogs 3 - OU 0

[Coach34]

Man...SC is dogshit. What a terrible hire that was.

Said me when it was made- but we had a few here defend it. Dont be surprised to see Lemon in the mix this summer

[CaptainObvious]

Then let's just play Delta State or Mississippi College. Better competition and we can accomplish the same thing without it even factoring into the RPI since they aren't Div 1.

Mississippi College beat State 7-5 in 1985. Familiar with who played for State then?

State has lost 8 times to JSU. State has lost to Delta State before.

This series has been going on for years. Financial benefit for JSU. Playing a lot of players for State.

[parabrave]

SCLSU Mud Dogs 3 - OU 0

That dam Bobby Bouchette/

[Todd4State]

Our RPI coming into the Jackson State game - 17

Our RPI after the Jackson State game- 17

If you win it doesn't hurt.

[Todd4State]

Said me when it was made- but we had a few here defend it. Dont be surprised to see Lemon in the mix this summer

I kind of would be sort of surprised. He has a resume similar to Manieri.

[Ranchdawg]

One problem is Lemonis is not a midget like Manieri. Also Lemonis is not a whiny little bitch like Manieri.

If you could not tell I am not a fan of Manieri. I will never forget Manieri going off to the media after he got back to Baton Rouge from Starkville claiming we pitched at the head of one of his batters. He said and I quote “I guess they are just coached that way”! Screw him and the horse he rode in on.

[BrunswickDawg]

One problem is Lemonis is not a midget like Manieri. Also Lemonis is not a whiny little bitch like Manieri.

If you could not tell I am not a fan of Manieri. I will never forget Manieri going off to the media after he got back to Baton Rouge from Starkville claiming we pitched at the head of one of his batters. He said and I quote ?I guess they are just coached that way?! Screw him and the horse he rode in on.

This is my favorite Manieri moment.....
He was an angry elf!

https://i.giphy.com/g92PR2fvnj0OI.gif

[maroonmania]

Mississippi College beat State 7-5 in 1985. Familiar with who played for State then?

State has lost 8 times to JSU. State has lost to Delta State before.

This series has been going on for years. Financial benefit for JSU. Playing a lot of players for State.

Not opposed to ever playing them. One, maybe two though is plenty. Three of them is too many though.

[Todd4State]

This is my favorite Manieri moment.....
He was an angry elf!

https://i.giphy.com/g92PR2fvnj0OI.gif

LOL. That was awesome. And I think the call was very obviously correct by the umpire which makes it even funnier.

[Todd4State]

Not opposed to ever playing them. One, maybe two though is plenty. Three of them is too many though.

The truth is SEC teams play multiple sub 200 RPI teams a year in baseball. It's just that some aren't in the SWAC.

And last I saw our RPI actually went up after we played Jackson State. Which I thought was pretty funny.

We more than offset any RPI hit by playing Ole Miss, USM twice including once on the road, and someone like Tulane in Biloxi. And yes I know Tulane's RPI is bad. We also play at least one other opponent- like this year it looks like it's UAB that could have a decent RPI.

I think our schedule is fine in general. If we aren't in a tournament we usually find a brand name opponent like Arizona State or Oregon State to play pre SEC as well. My complaints are that we stopped playing USM in Pearl and I liked having two games in Biloxi. But those are somewhat selfish.

I'd also like to see MSU invite Army, Navy, and Air Force to Dudy Noble for a weekend tournament like South Carolina did.

But my issues are mostly a wish list than anything.

[Todd4State]

One problem is Lemonis is not a midget like Manieri. Also Lemonis is not a whiny little bitch like Manieri.

If you could not tell I am not a fan of Manieri. I will never forget Manieri going off to the media after he got back to Baton Rouge from Starkville claiming we pitched at the head of one of his batters. He said and I quote “I guess they are just coached that way”! Screw him and the horse he rode in on.

The funniest part of that incident to me was LSU getting pissed off in the dugout and our players literally laughing at them.

[Coach34]

RPI should never be a problem for us. Anytime it is? We lost midweeks we shouldnt

Our SEC schedule is tough but that doesnt give us a pass. We need to get to 17-18 SEC wins. 15-15 with this type of talent is unacceptable

[HoopsDawg]

Grambling is 267 RPI
Alcorn St is 293
Jackson St is 291.

Its crazy to argue that these games dont hurt RPI and could ultimately effect national seeding

Stop playing these games!!

[Todd4State]

Grambling is 267 RPI
Alcorn St is 293
Jackson St is 291.

Its crazy to argue that these games dont hurt RPI and could ultimately effect national seeding

Stop playing these games!!

But they don't. If they did our RPI would not have gone up after playing Jackson State.

The risk is if you lose the game then your RPI will tank.

RPI looks at who you beat and who your opponents beat. It's not as cut and dried as play all high RPI teams.

[Coach34]

We've argued this for years. It's better to play a couple SWAC's to help them out, win big and your whole team get to play in the midweek- than it is to schedule better teams and take a chance on losing a couple of midweeks that would really hurt your RPI.

[HoopsDawg]

But they don't. If they did our RPI would not have gone up after playing Jackson State.

The risk is if you lose the game then your RPI will tank.

RPI looks at who you beat and who your opponents beat. It's not as cut and dried as play all high RPI teams.

Yikes, you really dont understand RPI.

[HoopsDawg]

We've argued this for years. It's better to play a couple SWAC's to help them out, win big and your whole team get to play in the midweek- than it is to schedule better teams and take a chance on losing a couple of midweeks that would really hurt your RPI.

Yep, you and I always disagree on this. Of course, I?m right per usual.

[BeardoMSU]

This is my favorite Manieri moment.....
He was an angry elf!

https://i.giphy.com/g92PR2fvnj0OI.gif

Perfection

[The Federalist Engineer]

This is my favorite Manieri moment.....
He was an angry elf!

https://i.giphy.com/g92PR2fvnj0OI.gif

#11 in the background, that's Coach Andy

[maroonmania]

Our RPI coming into the Jackson State game - 17

Our RPI after the Jackson State game- 17

If you win it doesn't hurt.

Yes it does, it just part of the RPI formula and really can't be argued. If we win most of our other games it likely won't hurt all that much, but playing three games against teams that will likely end up RPI 300 or worse is just dumb. Some of these other teams we schedule we don't really know where their RPI will end up but SWAC teams are automatic horrible RPI games.

[Coach34]

Yes it does, it just part of the RPI formula and really can't be argued. If we win most of our other games it likely won't hurt all that much, but playing three games against teams that will likely end up RPI 300 or worse is just dumb. Some of these other teams we schedule we don't really know where their RPI will end up but SWAC teams are automatic horrible RPI games.

But this is where athletes that played know the difference from guys that didnt on a high level.

We play some SWAC's so the whole team can play. So guys can have some more relaxed AB's. So pitchers can have some less stressful innings on the hill. So young pitchers can get work and not worry about the game being on the line with every pitch. That is needed during a season. Just like in football- we dont have to play an SEC game or top mid-major every week. Your team needs a couple weeks during the season to relax and just ball. Not stress that each play may decide the game.

[Todd4State]

Yikes, you really dont understand RPI.

Then tell me why I am wrong? Because I'm not.

And let me say this: Name one season where playing SWAC teams objectively hurt us as far as making a regional, hosting, or a National seed?

[Todd4State]

Yes it does, it just part of the RPI formula and really can't be argued. If we win most of our other games it likely won't hurt all that much, but playing three games against teams that will likely end up RPI 300 or worse is just dumb. Some of these other teams we schedule we don't really know where their RPI will end up but SWAC teams are automatic horrible RPI games.

As of now we have zero RPI 300 games.

The second thing is other teams play sub 200 RPI teams. It comes out in the wash. There is no difference in playing RPI 291 UT- Martin and any random SWAC team.

[Todd4State]

But this is where athletes that played know the difference from guys that didnt on a high level.

We play some SWAC's so the whole team can play. So guys can have some more relaxed AB's. So pitchers can have some less stressful innings on the hill. So young pitchers can get work and not worry about the game being on the line with every pitch. That is needed during a season. Just like in football- we dont have to play an SEC game or top mid-major every week. Your team needs a couple weeks during the season to relax and just ball. Not stress that each play may decide the game.

I think our fans are just fascinated with trying to game RPI but there is really no reason to try to do that. It's too random to try to do that anyway.