MBK vs Georgia

[msstate7]

The sec can go F themselves! Georgia has 0 fouls with 8:12 left; he have 5

[msstate7]

They let em travel, maul us, whatever. Seriously, whoever called the fix in should have a lifetime of herpes

[PGHBulldogBG]

I just wish we could opt out of the SEC tournament. We will lose the first game by 15+. We are really Rick Ray bad unless Hubbard goes off and scores 40+

[msstate7]

It was clearly a goal tend, and somehow we get a tech. Seriously, I hope these refs die

[msstate7]

Now they wanna call fouls after the game is in hand, seriously, f these MFS

[BeardoMSU]

At least its over...

[PGHBulldogBG]

At least its over...

Not yet we still have to suffer through OUs payback next week

[R2Dawg]

Frustrating game and season. Typical today.

UGA can't miss from 3, they shoot twice as many FT as us.

Hubbard goes for 42 and we score in mid 90s and lose. We didn't play bad. As always every team we play shoots lights out.

UGA is good though. March spoiler. UGA just had most regular season wins in school history. They have a lot of scorers. They just beat Bama pretty good.

[parabrave]

Jans sounded like a defeated man on the postgame interview.

[PGHBulldogBG]

Frustrating game and season. Typical today.

UGA can't miss from 3, they shoot twice as many FT as us.

Hubbard goes for 42 and we score in mid 90s and lose. We didn't play bad. As always every team we play shoots lights out.

UGA is good though. March spoiler. UGA just had most regular season wins in school history. They have a lot of scorers. They just beat Bama pretty good.

Even in the 3 years we did make the tournament under Jan’s, defending the perimeter was always our biggest weakness. It’s not a coincidence that teams shoot lights out from 3 against us consistently. We leave guys wide open so the shots are going to fall much easier. Whatever metrics he looked at last year to evaluate the portal, he needs to do the complete opposite next year

[SailingDawg]

Nine whole posts in this thread. Were so dedicated 🤣

[Saltydog]

He should look at the man in the mirror to see the problem. . . . .

[msstate7]

Jans sounded like a defeated man on the postgame interview.

His evaluation process needs Some changes. I think Jans is the right guy though despite this crap season. I think he fixes it

[CaptainObvious]

He has to find a Charles Rhodes, Tolu Smith type post player(16/9) and a high flying ball handling hot shooting wing (17/6) to go with a solid assist dealing point guard who can drop 12-15 per night.

[maroonmania]

Hubbard goes for 42 and we score in mid 90s and lose. We didn't play bad. As always every team we play shoots lights out.


The one common denominator with all these teams that shoot lights out is the MSU defense. The 3 point shot isn't that difficult to make when players are left wide open and when players get in a rhythm with it becomes even easier. Jans has got to change his approach to defense and he has to find players that can play perimeter defense. I mean we can't even compete with a team like Bama who runs most of their offense through shooting 3s.

[jdelta02]

His evaluation process needs Some changes. I think Jans is the right guy though despite this crap season. I think he fixes it

Evaluation issues with Coach Purcell as well. Appears he does better evaluating the high school kids and the players from abroad. Not so.much in the transfer portal.

[R2Dawg]

How much better we would be with Nwoko and Murphy on this team. And those two would be better as well. LSU is worse than us and Murphy just got lost on a bad Auburn team.

[R2Dawg]

The one common denominator with all these teams that shoot lights out is the MSU defense. The 3 point shot isn't that difficult to make when players are left wide open and when players get in a rhythm with it becomes even easier. Jans has got to change his approach to defense and he has to find players that can play perimeter defense. I mean we can't even compete with a team like Bama who runs most of their offense through shooting 3s.

Our on ball D letting the ball handler beat first defender is always what gets a wide open 3. We must be better on ball defense.

We were weak in several positions on both ends of the floor. Jans got work to do in the portal and to keep a few key players for next year. Time to spend some money with Hubbard senior year to make a run next year.

[PGHBulldogBG]

Not yet we still have to suffer through OUs payback next week

Well I guess it’s Auburn getting payback instead of OU.

[Goldendawg]

The year we fired Rick Ray he was 13-19 and 6-12 in the SEC. The "Dentist" just finished the regular season 13-18, 5-13. I don't think Ray got beat by 20 plus points in as many games as we have this year, either. Just saying.

BTW, I knew when SJ JR trotted out as a starter in the first game that this team was in big trouble for the season. Also, it's hard to guard the three (which Jans teams have never done well in his MSU tenure), and give up fewer points than in the 90's or even the 100's recently, when you often have three guards less than 6'2" on the floor together at many times.

[msstate7]

The year we fired Rick Ray he was 13-19 and 6-12 in the SEC. The "Dentist" just finished the regular season 13-18, 5-13. I don't think Ray got beat by 20 plus points in as many games as we have this year, either. Just saying.

BTW, I knew when SJ JR trotted out as a starter in the first game that this team was in big trouble for the season. Also, it's hard to guard the three (which Jans teams have never done well in his MSU tenure), and give up fewer points than in the 90's or even the 100's recently, when you often have three guards less than 6'2" on the floor together at many times.

Rick ray: 37-60 (.381), 13-41 in sec (.241), 0 postseason (NIT or NCAAT)

Chris Jans: 78-56 (.567), 29-43 (.403), 3 NCAAT

Little contact for the dumb comparison

[jdelta02]

My opinion the loss of Cam Matthews has loomed huge. "Glue guy"
Definitely Matthews

[Coach34]

Next year's team has to have a legit 5 and a 2 that is 6'3 or bigger that can score and defend.

[msstate7]

Next year's team has to have a legit 5 and a 2 that is 6'3 or bigger that can score and defend.

He has to do something. After we get whipped tomorrow, Jans' mulligan is complete... he has to be be at tourney/bubble level next season.

[StarkVegasSteve]

He has to do something. After we get whipped tomorrow, Jans' mulligan is complete... he has to be be at tourney/bubble level next season.

This is Jans first losing season EVER. We obviously need to figure out some answers through the portal but I know the staff likes the Freshman coming in and thinks they can all contribute immediately. I think Jans will fix this in short order. Now the caveat will be if we lose Josh. That changes everything.

[msstate7]

This is Jans first losing season EVER. We obviously need to figure out some answers through the portal but I know the staff likes the Freshman coming in and thinks they can all contribute immediately. I think Jans will fix this in short order. Now the caveat will be if we lose Josh. That changes everything.

If we lose Josh, I just hope his money is still there. At 3+ million, I feel confident we can get a great player. I kinda doubt anyone matches our offer for a volume scorer at his height. I've been surprised before though

[StarkVegasSteve]

If we lose Josh, I just hope his money is still there. At 3+ million, I feel confident we can get a great player. I kinda doubt anyone matches our offer for a volume scorer at his height. I've been surprised before though

It's a big ass IF obviously, but you can't unbiasedly look at some of the performances he's had in losses(42 on Saturday, 31 against Tennessee) and the fact that it took every bit of 46 against Auburn two weeks ago and not think he's at least looking around.

I think he ultimately stays, the "You don't leave State" thing directed at Murphy kind of pigeonholes him into staying, but I definitely think he will once again test the NBA waters just to see what's out there.

[msstate7]

It's a big ass IF obviously, but you can't unbiasedly look at some of the performances he's had in losses(42 on Saturday, 31 against Tennessee) and the fact that it took every bit of 46 against Auburn two weeks ago and not think he's at least looking around.

I think he ultimately stays, the "You don't leave State" thing directed at Murphy kind of pigeonholes him into staying, but I definitely think he will once again test the NBA waters just to see what's out there.

Every player should look around these days esp if the nba isn't in their future. They should max out there earnings while they can. I hate this atmosphere, but it's here, so they should take advantage

[R2Dawg]

It's a big ass IF obviously, but you can't unbiasedly look at some of the performances he's had in losses(42 on Saturday, 31 against Tennessee) and the fact that it took every bit of 46 against Auburn two weeks ago and not think he's at least looking around.

I think he ultimately stays, the "You don't leave State" thing directed at Murphy kind of pigeonholes him into staying, but I definitely think he will once again test the NBA waters just to see what's out there.

He stays and he'll get his jersey hung one day. I think he stays. The taunt at Murphy rings loud too. He already earned millions another million aint' going to change anything. Coming back with forever pride to see your jersey in rafters is special.

[BrunswickDawg]

He stays and he'll get his jersey hung one day. I think he stays. The taunt at Murphy rings loud too. He already earned millions another million aint' going to change anything. Coming back with forever pride to see your jersey in rafters is special.

If he scores as many points next season as this season, he will be 3rd All-Time in the SEC behind Pistol Pete and Alan Houston. That's some rare air.

[msstate7]

If he scores as many points next season as this season, he will be 3rd All-Time in the SEC behind Pistol Pete and Alan Houston. That's some rare air.

Wow, that's pretty amazing. Just looked it up, and Pete has over 800 pts more than Houston while playing 3 years instead of 4.

I thought Chris Jackson would be higher, but guess I didn't realize he only played 2 seasons.

[Goldendawg]

Rick ray: 37-60 (.381), 13-41 in sec (.241), 0 postseason (NIT or NCAAT)

Chris Jans: 78-56 (.567), 29-43 (.403), 3 NCAAT

Little contact for the dumb comparison

My "dumb" comparison was just about Ray's record his last year and the year Jans and his "team" have in progress this year, not about comparing the two coaches' entire body of work at MSU.

I hope the team makes a run in the SEC tourney starting Wednesday, though doubtful. This year's results have been very bad, and there are many issues that Jans can and must correct for next year's portal group to become a balanced, winning, competitive team, especially in SEC play. I feel he can and must get us competitive again and winning.

Note: I attended almost every home game from row one, and the attendance and losses by often double digits on our home floor were terrible.

[Coach34]

NIL giveth and NIL taketh away. It's tougher to build cohesiveness at times with constant roster turnover. Kentucky finished 9th in the SEC this season with twice the NIL we had. Candy currently has worst record in SEC Baseball heading into SEC play.

Got to do a better job of roster building the next few months

[R2Dawg]

Wow, that's pretty amazing. Just looked it up, and Pete has over 800 pts more than Houston while playing 3 years instead of 4.

I thought Chris Jackson would be higher, but guess I didn't realize he only played 2 seasons.

Chris Jackson would have been up there had he stayed. He and Hubbard are similar type players.

[Pancho]

Jans is in a tough spot and I would hate to be wagering on whether he fields a team that finishes better that 14th or so in SEC next year. just too much ground to make up in a year.

[R2Dawg]

Jans is in a tough spot and I would hate to be wagering on whether he fields a team that finishes better that 14th or so in SEC next year. just too much ground to make up in a year.

In today's climate, these things turn on one transfer season. Plenty of examples. This isn't the 80s or 90s.

[Pancho]

I hope he does but i have serious doubts now.

[StarkVegasSteve]

NIL giveth and NIL taketh away. It's tougher to build cohesiveness at times with constant roster turnover. Kentucky finished 9th in the SEC this season with twice the NIL we had. Candy currently has worst record in SEC Baseball heading into SEC play.

Got to do a better job of roster building the next few months

It comes down to evaluations.

Mark Byington at Vandy nailed his evals 2 years in a row. Bucky McMillan nailed his evals. Todd Golden nailed his evals once again, although it took them longer to gel. Mike White hit on his evals. Dennis Gates was like 50/50 on his evals.

Mark Pope did not, Chris Jans did not, Chris Beard did not, Porter Moser did not. Matt McMahon has no NIL AND didn't nail his evals. LaMont Paris is in the same boat as McMahon.

[msstate7]

Jans is in a tough spot and I would hate to be wagering on whether he fields a team that finishes better that 14th or so in SEC next year. just too much ground to make up in a year.

Like every team in the sec will be rebuilt this offseason

[Pancho]

You seem confident. You think Jans finishes in the top 8 or 9 in the league next year? That is simply what I doubt. Simply a discussion of opinions.

[msstate7]

You seem confident. You think Jans finishes in the top 8 or 9 in the league next year? That is simply what I doubt. Simply a discussion of opinions.

I have no idea. No one possibly can until the deck gets reshuffled for the sec.

[Pancho]

Oh okay.

[Turfdawg67]

Rick ray: 37-60 (.381), 13-41 in sec (.241), 0 postseason (NIT or NCAAT)

Chris Jans: 78-56 (.567), 29-43 (.403), 3 NCAAT

Little contact for the dumb comparison

They both suck, Ray sucked more. Making the Tourney is great, bowing out in the 1st Rd all 3 times is just more 17'n misery for an already miserable fan base.

[Turfdawg67]

If he scores as many points next season as this season, he will be 3rd All-Time in the SEC behind Pistol Pete and Alan Houston. That's some rare air.

What if Pete had a 3-pt line?? Dang.

[msstate7]

They both suck, Ray sucked more. Making the Tourney is great, bowing out in the 1st Rd all 3 times is just more 17'n misery for an already miserable fan base.

Anyone that thinks making the tourney here is just a given is a moron.

The first year, I will hold against him, but years 2 and 3, he ran into some of the best tourney coaches there are. I hated seeing those 2 bc you always advance them in the first round on your bracket. And as great as drew is, he will probably miss the tourney this season too

[Thick]

It’s funny that bring up Pistol Pete. About 2-3 weeks ago, it was the SEC network or ESPN, someone measured Pete’s jump shot by feet, made shoots by feet, and number of shots made by feet/ game. If he had played with a 3 point line, he would have averaged 57 pts/game.

[State82]

It’s funny that bring up Pistol Pete. About 2-3 weeks ago, it was the SEC network or ESPN, someone measured Pete’s jump shot by feet, made shoots by feet, and number of shots made by feet/ game. If he had played with a 3 point line, he would have averaged 57 pts/game.
Whoa!!!

[StarkVegasSteve]

It’s funny that bring up Pistol Pete. About 2-3 weeks ago, it was the SEC network or ESPN, someone measured Pete’s jump shot by feet, made shoots by feet, and number of shots made by feet/ game. If he had played with a 3 point line, he would have averaged 57 pts/game.

It was Dale Brown. One offseason he went back and got the old stats books and game write ups and charted the shots. He said with a 3 pt line, Pete would've averaged 57 for his career at LSU.