A new low today?

[HoopsDawg]

State vs Arkansas and no thread. Apathy has officially set in.

[Ranchdawg]

We are getting our a$$ handed to us by a freshman on Ark.’s team. This is not fun. Yet another game at home we are getting shown how to play the game.

[prairiedog]

If we aren?t going to be a defensive-minded team (coach is known for tough defense), then we need a coach that is actually known for offense.

[EdwardDrayton]

Yes

[EdwardDrayton]

But he gets another year cuz we po', nobody wants our j-o-b, and we traila' park. Mittitipy Tate. *****

[Goldendawg]

Jans is a fraud. Overrated mid-major coach from NM who lived on JC players and coached "D". He does not fit in today's game as he can't coach offense (very few of today's players want to be a part of his "system"), and can't evaluate the portal. But he is the 16th highest paid college MBB HC and under contract to make over $5 million per year, in a couple of years, I have read. We must have idiots negotiating our contract deals.

[Goldendawg]

Early in the first half, we were on the road, and the only radio broadcast we could find was the Hog network. These were some observations made early in the game by their announcers:

1. Josh Hubbard is only 5'9" to 5'10" and can't play defense on other SEC guards.
2. Hubbard, Magee, and Epps are "too little" for an SEC backcourt together.
3. Jans no longer has the talent to play his style of defense.
4. Our #9 player would be their #2 player talent-wise.

We then arrived home to watch the remainder of another 20 point loss on our home court.

This is embarrassing.

Note: I will admit that I got my desired school colors: maroon uniforms with white numbers. That being said, it doesn't matter what colors this team wears. They can't even compete recently, much less get even a homecourt win.

[parabrave]

Early in the first half, we were on the road and the only radio broadcast we could find was the Hog network. These were some observations made early in the game by thier announcers:

1. Josh Hubbard is only 5'9" to 5'10" and can't play defense on other SEC guards.
2. Hubbard, Magee and Epps are too little for an SEC backcout together
3. Jans no longer has the talent to play his style of defense.
4. Our #9 player would be their #2 player talent-wise.

We then arrived home to watch the remainder of another 20 point loss on our home court.

This is embarrassing.

Jans should just scrap the D philosophy and let them play their offensive old fashioned fast break up tempo O/ He just can't see that the kids are what we call in the army Coping a DGAS attitude/ Jans has to learn the you go to war with what you got not what you wish you had.

[Bothrops]

Have we ever beaten Calipari? I wouldn't expect it to start now that he's at Arkansas.

[EdwardDrayton]

Have we ever beaten Calipari? I wouldn't expect it to start now that he's at Arkansas.

I know he's never lost in the Hump.

[HoopsDawg]

Our roster construction was mind numbingly bad. We need a completely new starting 5 next year. And cant imagine our large donors having confidence that Jans can find them.

Who are his top 3 portal pickups? Its a bad list.

[Turfdawg67]

Get rid of this bum. I don’t care about three 1 and done tourney appearances

[CaptainObvious]

You think apathy is bad now. Give Jans and his entire staff another year and women?s golf will outdraw men?s basketball!

[EdwardDrayton]

On a positive note, we paid $1.6 million less than OM for the exact same 11-12 (3-7) $hitshow. *****

[msstate7]

On a positive note, we paid $1.6 million less than OM for the exact same 11-12 (3-7) $hitshow. *****

And they have a top 5 coach. This era will have crap seasons out of no where. Bet they aren't dumb enough to fire a good coach after one season.

[Tater]

And they have a top 5 coach. This era will have crap seasons out of no where. Bet they aren't dumb enough to fire a good coach after one season.

And so a sweet 16 appearance would be a reasonable expectation once every 4 years for a top 20 paid coach. Our fanbase hasn't been able to enjoy waking up on a Saturday in March with hope still alive as one of 32 teams still standing since a Bush was president.

Yet we pay like we are a top tier program. Hell Jans salary is right their with Painter from Purdue. If we're paying in Purdue level. Why are we getting IUPUI level results?

[RezDog7]

And so a sweet 16 appearance would be a reasonable expectation once every 4 years for a top 20 paid coach. Our fanbase hasn't been able to enjoy waking up on a Saturday in March with hope still alive as one of 32 teams still standing since a Bush was president.

Yet we pay like we are a top tier program. Hell Jans salary is right their with Painter from Purdue. If we're paying in Purdue level. Why are we getting IUPUI level results?

I say save the money and dump it into football. Hire Rick ray back. Who gives a shit at this point.

[msstate7]

I say save the money and dump it into football. Hire Rick ray back. Who gives a shit at this point.

Yeah, let's take it from a guy with a track record and give it to a guy with 1 sec win in 2 seasons

[Coach34]

But he gets another year cuz we po', nobody wants our j-o-b, and we traila' park. Mittitipy Tate. *****

So thats the bar now? Make the NCAA Tourney every season or you're fired?

[HoopsDawg]

Yeah, let's take it from a guy with a track record and give it to a guy with 1 sec win in 2 seasons

We gave Jans too big of a contract for winning with another guys players. Jans has been awful in the portal.

[msstate7]

We gave Jans too big of a contract for winning with another guys players. Jans has been awful in the portal.

Fire him! Whatever.

I think most the country realizes Jans has been good up until this season. I'm sure top candidates will be beating down out door begging for this job after we fire him for only making the tourney 3/4. I mean shit... we made the final 4 30 years ago

[Tater]

So thats the bar now? Make the NCAA Tourney every season or you're fired?

If you're getting paid top 20 money then it's reasonable to think you have a +/- around R64. R32 appearance, +1. Miss tourney, -1. After 3 seasons if you're negative as a coach then it seems fair to fire you.

Mississippi State is not a top 100 job. It's a top 40 job with top 20 pay and at worst a top 50 payroll. No years beating expectations and seems to have regressed talent he does bring in year over year.

[Saltydog]

He's a horrible recruiter and he's hard to play for. That's it in a nutshell and that's not a recipe for winning in this league.

[Tater]

Fire him! Whatever.

I think most the country realizes Jans has been good up until this season. I'm sure top candidates will be beating down out door begging for this job after we fire him for only making the tourney 3/4. I mean shit... we made the final 4 30 years ago

Is he the reason for our success or is the fact that we're paying players being a bigger needle mover. Jans is getting credit for NIL / portal taking power and consolidating it with the power conferences. Do we think there are 20 other coaches in America that can do what Jans has done in 4 years here? If so - go pay for one of them cause Jans is making more than some of em.

[msstate7]

Is he the reason for our success or is the fact that we're paying players being a bigger needle mover. Jans is getting credit for NIL / portal taking power and consolidating it with the power conferences. Do we think there are 20 other coaches in America that can do what Jans has done in 4 years here? If so - go pay for one of them cause Jans is making more than some of em.

You actually think there are only 21 coaches we can't get? We pay him bc we realize he has a shit job, and he's done a good job

[HoopsDawg]

Fire him! Whatever.

I think most the country realizes Jans has been good up until this season. I'm sure top candidates will be beating down out door begging for this job after we fire him for only making the tourney 3/4. I mean shit... we made the final 4 30 years ago

Weird reaction. I didn?t say anything about firing him. But I do think we need a basketball GM.

[HoopsDawg]

You actually think there are only 21 coaches we can't get? We pay him bc we realize he has a shit job, and he's done a good job

We paid him bc our AD overreacted to a couple of open jobs like A&M. You cant do that.

[msstate7]

Weird reaction. I didn?t say anything about firing him. But I do think we need a basketball GM.

Apologies then. Jans is certainly not perfect, but he's been good here overall. Perhaps he could use help in evaluation, and he could certainly use someone telling him that spending money on players 11-15 is idiotic. Cheers

[msstate7]

We paid him bc our AD overreacted to a couple of open jobs like A&M. You cant do that.

Somewhat agree. If we lost him to an sec team bc of money, our AD woulda been ripped though

[HoopsDawg]

Somewhat agree. If we lost him to an sec team bc of money, our AD woulda been ripped though

At the time, this board was saying pay him whatever he wants. That era is gone unless it?s someone like Calipari.

[EdwardDrayton]

And they have a top 5 coach. This era will have crap seasons out of no where. Bet they aren't dumb enough to fire a good coach after one season.

Top 5 coach??!!!?? LOL!!!!

[EdwardDrayton]

So thats the bar now? Make the NCAA Tourney every season or you're fired?

And the paid program apologist weighs in to earn his bimonthly check.

[Coach34]

Mississippi State is not a top 100 job. It's a top 40 job with top 20 pay and at worst a top 50 payroll. No years beating expectations and seems to have regressed talent he does bring in year over year.

We are in no way a Top 40 job. Thats hilarious. Just because we have money to pay a coach doesnt mean this program can achieve big things. State is a Top 75 job. It's easier to win at VCU than State. You wont make the same money- but you can win there easier and get a bigger job when you move on. I thought Buzz was an idiot for leaving A&M for Maryland because of history. Buzz is finding out what a dumb ****ing move he made

[Coach34]

And the paid program apologist weighs in to earn his bimonthly check.

I just need some sensible feedback on how firing the guy that has done a great job at State would be a smart thing to do

[RezDog7]

Yeah, let's take it from a guy with a track record and give it to a guy with 1 sec win in 2 seasons

I didn't say give it to Lebby. And you can have those 3 straight embarrassing losses in the tournament. So much fun.

[RezDog7]

Fire him! Whatever.

I think most the country realizes Jans has been good up until this season. I'm sure top candidates will be beating down out door begging for this job after we fire him for only making the tourney 3/4. I mean shit... we made the final 4 30 years ago

The same coaches that will be beating down our door when we fire Lebby.

[msstate7]

Top 5 coach??!!!?? LOL!!!!

Beard is outstanding. The only reason he isn't winning big time at Texas is he's a moron

[Tater]

We are in no way a Top 40 job. Thats hilarious. Just because we have money to pay a coach doesnt mean this program can achieve big things. State is a Top 75 job. It's easier to win at VCU than State. You wont make the same money- but you can win there easier and get a bigger job when you move on. I thought Buzz was an idiot for leaving A&M for Maryland because of history. Buzz is finding out what a dumb ****ing move he made

You're the one spouting jimmies and joes and wu tang clan cash rules everything around me cream get the money dolla dolla bills yall. But when we have two sports where we are doing such a thing we're firing one and keeping the other.

Baseball is a top 5 job with top 5 pay and a top 5 payroll. Reasonable for Lemo to have expectations be making it to top 8 as a baseline. Y1 he traded even. Y2 scrapped. Y3 he got +3 (F4, F2, Champ). Y4 he got -1. Y5 he got -1. Y6 he got -1. Y7 he was headed for -1. We almost turned it around early enough by firing him that the ship got back to where it was. But overall he was about to be negative on the expectation scale after Y3.

VCU is not a better job than State. Maybe 10 years ago. You could argue the same 5 years ago. Now? Not a chance. The gap in MBB is massively growing. State pays 3 times as much for our HC as VCU does. We are one of the "bigger job(s)" you can move onto. Your logic is like saying that New Mexico State is a better job than ours because it's easier to win at. Jans beat friggin UConn while at NMSU in the tourney.

[Goldendawg]

Some of you would be stunned to know what we are paying these players from the tallest to the shortest. From what I have been told, $ was not the issue; evaluation in this latest portal class was, and our offensively challenged HC since the day he stepped on our campus. Our 7' center has gone from averaging 16.5 or so from his last stop to being unable to even catch a pass to be about a 5.0 ppg guy for us. Our tall European guy took almost half the year to get his first dunk. Our three shooting guards could almost qualify for a 6-foot-and-under league, and this list goes on. This bunch gets paid big $ whether they win, (very seldom this year) or show little effort in another embarrassing home loss. JMO.

[maroonmania]

He's a horrible recruiter and he's hard to play for. That's it in a nutshell and that's not a recipe for winning in this league.

Agree, he's an old school coach in a time where players have.all the power because they are highly paid guys focused on themselves rather than the team and can jump ship on you at any time. Compare our style to that of Bama and it's easy to see where a player wanting to show out would prefer to go.

Also, our roster construction this year was just stupid. I mean we pretty much all questioned why you would bring in another under 6 foot guard to pair with Hubbard? No logic to that when our 3 point defense was already pathetic. Come on Jans, use your brain.

[StarkVegasSteve]

And they have a top 5 coach. This era will have crap seasons out of no where. Bet they aren't dumb enough to fire a good coach after one season.

This is what people do not understand about this era. Crap seasons are going to happen because you have to be portal heavy. You cannot build through retention and HS recruiting. Not possible. Houston is really the only team that is able to operate through traditional recruiting in this era and if we would have tried to hire Kelvin Sampson after Stans, people would have REVOLTED. And btw, we could have hired him. A blind nun could have seen Ray was not working and Stricklin held on to him. We should have moved off Ray after Year 2 and hired Kelvin.

[HoopsDawg]

This is what people do not understand about this era. Crap seasons are going to happen because you have to be portal heavy. You cannot build through retention and HS recruiting. Not possible. Kelvin.

Literally everyone understands this

[msstate7]

Literally everyone understands this

So everyone understands this, and these guys still wanna fire jans for one bad season?

[maroonmania]

So everyone understands this, and these guys still wanna fire jans for one bad season?

I really haven't heard many folks wanting Jans fired. I think there are honest questions being asked if he will work out long term though. Hopefully this embarrassing year is just a one off but we will find out next season. I think we can all agree that our portal evaluations this year were really bad and something there has to get better going forward. It's not just the fact we are losing this season, but how we are losing. We aren't even competitive in most games any more.

[Rawdawg]

I really haven't heard many folks wanting Jans fired. I think there are honest questions being asked if he will work out long term though. Hopefully this embarrassing year is just a one off but we will find out next season. I think we can all agree that our portal evaluations this year were really bad and something there has to get better going forward. It's not just the fact we are losing this season, but how we are losing. We aren't even competitive in most games any more.

Yeah they?ve quit and you compound this issue that we?ve been pretty bad if you?re being objective in the portal during Jans tenure and it doesn?t give much hope in the future.

[msstate7]

I really haven't heard many folks wanting Jans fired. I think there are honest questions being asked if he will work out long term though. Hopefully this embarrassing year is just a one off but we will find out next season. I think we can all agree that our portal evaluations this year were really bad and something there has to get better going forward. It's not just the fact we are losing this season, but how we are losing. We aren't even competitive in most games any more.

This season is terrible. It's Jans' mulligan, and he has to fix it next season.

[Tbonewannabe]

This season is terrible. It's Jans' mulligan, and he has to fix it next season.

The problem is that almost everyone Jans has brought in from the portal has been a bust.

[msstate7]

The problem is that almost everyone Jans has brought in from the portal has been a bust.

I don't think that's fair. Kugel, Harris, and Melendez gave us 8-10 ppg with Melendez pushing 5 reb a game. Nwoko gave us good mins and rebounded well. They helped us make the tourney.

[Coach34]

I don't think that's fair. Kugel, Harris, and Melendez gave us 8-10 ppg with Melendez pushing 5 reb a game. Nwoko gave us good mins and rebounded well. They helped us make the tourney.

Yeah, I thought he did a good job with last year's team. They were fun to watch also

[maroonmania]

Yeah, I thought he did a good job with last year's team. They were fun to watch also

Would have been much better off keeping Nwoku and Kugel than what we replaced them with. Was it our choice to not try and keep them?

[Coach34]

Would have been much better off keeping Nwoku and Kugel than what we replaced them with. Was it our choice to not try and keep them?

Their choice is my understanding. LSU spent some money on Nwoku.

[HoopsDawg]

Would have been much better off keeping Nwoku and Kugel than what we replaced them with. Was it our choice to not try and keep them?

Kugel looked like he hated Jans by the end of the year. We all remember Shakeel Moores comments as well.

[msugolf]

Kugel looked like he hated Jans by the end of the year. We all remember Shakeel Moores comments as well.

Word gets around pretty fast. Players and coaches talk and Jans has a reputation now. He will have a hard time getting anyone of value to come play for him. On top of that, he needs to completely change his offensive philosophy and coaches. Those are a lot of things to overcome in order to turn it around.

[Coach34]

Word gets around pretty fast. Players and coaches talk and Jans has a reputation now. He will have a hard time getting anyone of value to come play for him. On top of that, he needs to completely change his offensive philosophy and coaches. Those are a lot of things to overcome in order to turn it around.

Jan has a great assistant in Scott Padgett who played for Pitino at Kentucky. We dont lack offensive knowledge

[msstate7]

Jan has a great assistant in Scott Padgett who played for Pitino at Kentucky. We dont lack offensive knowledge

We suck this season, obviously, but we were 24th in kenpom offense last year.

[Lance Harbor]

I just need some sensible feedback on how firing the guy that has done a great job at State would be a smart thing to do

Because the program is going into the shitter? And the State job can be/should be a top 50 job at worst. The offense has been non-existent Jans entire career. There is no path to getting better.

[Lance Harbor]

Must just be that pesky execution part.

[msstate7]

Because the program is going into the shitter? And the State job can be/should be a top 50 job at worst. The offense has been non-existent Jans entire career. There is no path to getting better.

They were literally 24th ranked offense last season in kenpom and 28th in BPI

[Coach34]

They were literally 24th ranked offense last season in kenpom and 28th in BPI

And 6th in the SEC in scoring

[StarkVegasSteve]

Because the program is going into the shitter? And the State job can be/should be a top 50 job at worst. The offense has been non-existent Jans entire career. There is no path to getting better.

If we fired Chris Jans this offseason, the hire we would be able to make would make Rick Ray look like Red Auerbach.

Jans screwed up in the portal. He's admitted that. The staff has admitted that. And the fans know it. When you go to 3 straight NCAAT's, you get a mulligan. And honestly, you probably get 2. He's recruited really well at the HS level in the last two classes and that will help us this offseason.

You're going to have season's like this in this era. You just are. Chris Beard went to the S16 last year and guess what? He's down this year. Porter Moser went to the NCAAT last year, he's down this year. This is the new era of college basketball. Down years are going to be really bad. It's just the new reality. Jans has also spoiled us into thinking we're some regular tournament team. Keep in mind, before him, we'd been to the NCAAT 1 time in 12 years.

I've said it for the better part of 15 years now, those fake Western Division titles that Stansbury won in the mid 00s made our fanbase think we were some blue blood. Hell Stansbury won 4 tournament games in 14 years. Not exactly some incredible hit rate in the tournament. We haven't been to the second weekend in 30 years. We're not some blue blood and I'd debate whether we're a top 50 job. We're in an old arena, with little local talent, we have a non rev sport that takes up NIL money and rev share money, and we're in an incredibly tough conference. That's not the recipe for a top 50 job.

[Tbonewannabe]

I don't think that's fair. Kugel, Harris, and Melendez gave us 8-10 ppg with Melendez pushing 5 reb a game. Nwoko gave us good mins and rebounded well. They helped us make the tourney.

You are probably right. I am letting this abysmal year affect my thoughts on the matter. At the end of the day, Jans gets next year. He earned a mulligan with making 3 straight tourneys.

[Tater]

Steve you keep saying Jans has spoiled us into thinking we're a regular tournament team, but won't touch the fact that he makes players worse and we've had some of our best talent under him because of the NIL boon.

I just think we gotta start being objective and view it honestly. The SEC had 14 teams in the tourney last year. The league itself has completely changed in 20, 10, and 5 years. A "good" year for an SEC team is no longer making the tournament. Its the league wide expectation.

[Tater]

Porter Moser, Matt McMahon and Lamont Parris are the only SEC coaches you can say Jans is better than. And I'm generous saying Moser.

Are we the 13th best SEC Men's basketball job? Shit another year of no 3 point or free throw shooting and we might be - maybe even get to be worse when those 3 get fired and we keep Jans.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Steve you keep saying Jans has spoiled us into thinking we're a regular tournament team, but won't touch the fact that he makes players worse and we've had some of our best talent under him because of the NIL boon.

I just think we gotta start being objective and view it honestly. The SEC had 14 teams in the tourney last year. The league itself has completely changed in 20, 10, and 5 years. A "good" year for an SEC team is no longer making the tournament. Its the league wide expectation.

I don't disagree that some players have gotten worse when they got here. I also think some people don't realize that we got exactly what we thought we'd get out of some guys too. Kugel got better. Stats back that up. Melendez and Harris were exactly what we thought we were getting. Nwoko was what we thought we were getting. Clary and Taylor were just headcases, which we knew there was a risk of that. Eric Reed and Dashawn Davis got worse here. Ballard has been worse here. Epps has been what we thought he would be and Achor is about what we thought he would be. He's better than he was at Kansas St but he's worse than he was at Samford.

That's just the nature of the portal. You have to nail your evals and you have to nail the players you HOPE are going to get back to where they were previously or take a next step.

[msstate7]

Pearl takes over a monster his dad built and is close to running it off the tracks. He's better than Jans. How exactly is Mike white considered better than Jans? I believe there are some serious weed smokers here with really short term memory issues

[PGHBulldogBG]

If we decided to fire Jans this year our choices for head coach would be Rick Ray level. C34 posted a link the other day indicating that coaches see our job as the 2nd worst job in the conference. While I am not sure I fully agree it is that bad, we are at the bottom with USCe, Ole Miss and UGA/Vandy. There is absolutely 0 chance he gets fired barring a scandal off the court. Now if he does poorly again next year there will most likely be some grumblings. I do think hiring some type of quality portal evaluator position would be a good idea. He clearly made some bad evaluations this year and he can not make that same mistake again. We will just have to wait until next year to see what he can put together and go from there.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Pearl takes over a monster his dad built and is close to running it off the tracks. He's better than Jans. How exactly is Mike white considered better than Jans? I believe there are some serious weed smokers here with really short term memory issues

Agree wholeheartedly on those two. I think we're going to beat Mizzou when they come to The Hump and I think Jans is better than Dennis Gates. I also don't know that Sean Miller is better than Jans. 2017 Sean Miller might be, but is 2026 Sean Miller?

[Tater]

Pearl takes over a monster his dad built and is close to running it off the tracks. He's better than Jans. How exactly is Mike white considered better than Jans? I believe there are some serious weed smokers here with really short term memory issues

Too early to rule on Pearl. White has more wins than Jans and has trended Georgia up year over year.

[Coach34]

Are we the 13th best SEC Men's basketball job? Shit another year of no 3 point or free throw shooting and we might be - maybe even get to be worse when those 3 get fired and we keep Jans.

Well, SEC coaches polled literally just said we were viewed as the 15th best job in the SEC. So 13th would be an improvement

[BeardoMSU]

Another 20+ deficit....at home.

[PGHBulldogBG]

We don’t have a home court advantage in anyway. Our only chance for wins are USC and Ole Miss and they are both on the road but 3-15 at this point would not be shocking

[parabrave]

Why is Jones still playing???

[Thick]

So sad to watch .

[msstate7]

Why is Jones still playing???

It doesn't matter. This season can't end fast enough. I would love to win one more this Saturday

[StarkVegasSteve]

It doesn't matter. This season can't end fast enough. I would love to win one more this Saturday

I think we will win 4 coming home. Possibly 5. Ole Miss is about ready to fold up shop. Auburn is a slight breeze from folding. USCe already has. Mizzou is really bad on the road and it took Josh not making anything for 34 minutes to beat us at Mizzou. And by the time we get to UGA they will have folded.

The SEC is not very good this year outside of Florida, Arky, sometimes UK, A&M, Tennessee, Bama, and kind of Vandy.

[R2Dawg]

I think we will win 4 coming home. Possibly 5. Ole Miss is about ready to fold up shop. Auburn is a slight breeze from folding. USCe already has. Mizzou is really bad on the road and it took Josh not making anything for 34 minutes to beat us at Mizzou. And by the time we get to UGA they will have folded.

The SEC is not very good this year outside of Florida, Arky, sometimes UK, A&M, Tennessee, Bama, and kind of Vandy.

Honestly, I don't think SEC is very good this year. No great teams. That top 6-7 are good at times but bad others. Florida flexing it's muscle some right now (they are current NC).

[StarkVegasSteve]

Honestly, I don't think SEC is very good this year. No great teams. That top 6-7 are good at times but bad others. Florida flexing it's muscle some right now (they are current NC).

That is because the SEC is not very good. This could be the year a team just gets hot in Nashville and steals a bid.

[Coach34]

SEC right now has 10 teams in per Lunardi with Georgia and Texas hanging on by a thread

[PGHBulldogBG]

The SEC does not have many top heavy teams outside of possibly UF, but it has 11 really solid teams that could make a run in March if they get hot. Ole Miss, State, OU, USCe and LSU are all bad

[StarkVegasSteve]

The SEC does not have many top heavy teams outside of possibly UF, but it has 11 really solid teams that could make a run in March if they get hot. Ole Miss, State, OU, USCe and LSU are all bad

I don't think Texas or UGA is very good either. I also don't think Mizzou is very good but they'll make the tourney

[Thick]

I think we will win 4 coming home. Possibly 5. Ole Miss is about ready to fold up shop. Auburn is a slight breeze from folding. USCe already has. Mizzou is really bad on the road and it took Josh not making anything for 34 minutes to beat us at Mizzou. And by the time we get to UGA they will have folded.

The SEC is not very good this year outside of Florida, Arky, sometimes UK, A&M, Tennessee, Bama, and kind of Vandy.

You don?t think we?ve cashed out? We scored 28 points in the first half last night and Hubb had 20 of them. This TEAM is bad, and even if we are scoring we aren?t defending!

[StarkVegasSteve]

You don?t think we?ve cashed out? We scored 28 points in the first half last night and Hubb had 20 of them. This TEAM is bad, and even if we are scoring we aren?t defending!

I think we showed some fight to battle back last night. That is what gives me hope that we have not given ip.

[99jc]

I have given up on this team cant even stand to watch them at ALL. Jans is a dead man walking!

[Dawgology]

The millions we have paid to basketball players by our ?basketball only? guys is really paying dividends, glad it wasn?t invested in the football team. Can?t wait to see how this same plan pans out for the baseball team. ****

[msstate7]

The millions we have paid to basketball players by our ?basketball only? guys is really paying dividends, glad it wasn?t invested in the football team. Can?t wait to see how this same plan pans out for the baseball team. ****

Hard for me to criticize what guys wanna use their money for.

[Tater]

This team doesn't give a shit. They'll maybe lock in for the SEC tournament to lose in the quarterfinals but that's their best case scenario.

Baseball starts tomorrow and Softball is already on a tear.

[Dawgology]

Hard for me to criticize what guys wanna use their money for.

That's true. It is their money. And MSU is one of the few fanbases that seems incapable of realizing that football success drives it all. Oh well. On to a decent season in club sport.

[maroonmania]

Hard for me to criticize what guys wanna use their money for.

True, and we actually have a higher percentage chance to field a top level team in basketball than we do football. Heck, you only need 7 to 8 high quality players to have a good basketball team.

[EdwardDrayton]

How about a radical conception. Let's go all in for a hockey team. *****

[Coach34]

One thing this basketball team is doing is making me some money. So there's that.

[HoopsDawg]

One thing this basketball team is doing is making me some money. So there's that.

Same. Im 7-1 betting against us. Lost on Texas.