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cheewgumm
01-13-2026, 10:38 PM
Bama is one of them

msstate7
01-13-2026, 10:46 PM
It's not just him - we're 6-25 vs bama since 2010

cheewgumm
01-13-2026, 10:47 PM
If we are playing Kentucky, Bama , Florida

I don?t ever watch

msstate7
01-13-2026, 10:48 PM
If we are playing Kentucky, Bama , Florida

I don?t ever watch

We have the best shot vs Florida. No chance vs the other 2

EdwardDrayton
01-13-2026, 10:54 PM
Jans is not it. Mediocre results for $4.2 million a year. Another embarrassing loss and this time on our home court.

cheewgumm
01-13-2026, 10:56 PM
Yeah I really like him but he?s not great.

Without Hubbard we have maybe 2 wins.

Terrible

Thick
01-13-2026, 10:57 PM
Sorry, but Jans is just not all that yall build him up to be. If he was such a defensive genius, well we would be a good defensive team at ALL times! Our offense is based off of small shooting guards, plus our bigs suck ass. I don?t give 2 ****s if he wins out (which will never happen), he?s an average coach and not a good recruiter. Bama has 9 players, and we can?t stop them, draw fouls to get into their bench. Shitty game plan by The Dentist!!! Ready for him to be gone!

cheewgumm
01-13-2026, 10:57 PM
Almost can?t watch anything but baseball.

That is all. Maybe some crappy girls games.

It?s sad and pathetic.

Thick
01-13-2026, 10:59 PM
We have the best shot vs Florida. No chance vs the other 2

WTF???? Florida will kill us! Their managers are more talented then our starters !

Thick
01-13-2026, 11:02 PM
It's not just him - we're 6-25 vs bama since 2010

It?s not just him??? No one cares about 2010 until now. We care about the ****ing present, and the present is 9 Bama players, minus starters are dragging us on our home court! Stop making excuses for this overpaid coach that is so overrated!!!

msstate7
01-13-2026, 11:04 PM
WTF???? Florida will kill us! Their managers are more talented thanour starters !

4-2 vs Florida last 6 games. All were close. We haven't won but 6 games vs bama and Kentucky since 2010 total

BlackSailsDawg
01-13-2026, 11:11 PM
It?s not just him??? No one cares about 2010 until now. We care about the ****ing present, and the present is 9 Bama players, minus starters are dragging us on our home court! Stop making excuses for this overpaid coach that is so overrated!!!

Minus 2 starters and 2 rotation guys.

BlackSailsDawg
01-13-2026, 11:11 PM
4-2 vs Florida last 6 games. All were close. We haven't won but 6 games vs bama and Kentucky since 2010 total

He may be talking about this yeat

EdwardDrayton
01-13-2026, 11:15 PM
So 17ing tired of opponents player scoring career high against us. Philon with 32. Previous conference best 29. 'Dentist' my 17ing a$$. Time for change.

Consecutive games 92+ points allowed. This time on our home court. Time for 17ing change.

BlackSailsDawg
01-13-2026, 11:18 PM
I was excited to get Jans. The reason... defense. Teams dont score 100 on a team with a good defense.

Im not sure the NIL situation. If he needs more??? If that is the case, we need to fix that and give him 2 years after.

If not.... its time to move on

DawgFromOxford
01-13-2026, 11:21 PM
2 games in a row we blew a 14 point lead in the first half and get smoked in the 2nd.

EdwardDrayton
01-13-2026, 11:25 PM
2 games in a row we blew a 14 point lead in the first half and get smoked in the 2nd.

We're getting sucka$$ value for $4.2 million a year.

Skydawg1
01-13-2026, 11:32 PM
The Little Dutch Boy is awful. He is not what his reputation says he is. He is garbage.

Irondawg
01-13-2026, 11:54 PM
I wonder what Jans record is here when the opponent scored over 85

CaptainObvious
01-14-2026, 12:51 AM
Crap! We are paying Jan?s almost as much as Lebby! My gosh, our admin is dumber than cow dung!

maroonmania
01-14-2026, 01:43 AM
Ww dont defend the 3 point shot well at all under Jans and that is all Nate Oates focuses on. Jans will never beat a Nate Oates coached team. I mean we have zero shot to hold Bama below 80 so unless our offense is playing out of its mind....

msstate7
01-14-2026, 07:16 AM
Kenpom has our defense 7th in the sec. This league is just so freaking good offensively: 11 sec teams in the top 50 offensively in kenpom.

Tenn has the best defensive coach in the sec, and they've given up 82.5 ppg in first 4 sec games.

Coach34
01-14-2026, 09:51 AM
Fire em alllllllllll!!!! **** it- let's get a new coach in every sport every season!!!!!

NCMSTFAN
01-14-2026, 10:33 AM
I've been up and down on Jans. I really think he is a solid coach, but I think he does his best work at lower tier programs. He can coach up a bunch of lesser talented mid major guys and probably actually upset some teams while doing so, his style of coaching fits that underdog, grit and grind type player who just works hard, defends and rebounds... he has had success at a lower level with those type players. But that doesn't work in the SEC, you need athletes up and down the roster who can score in multiple ways, you need shooters, you need skilled big men etc. That bring your lunch pale to work style of coaching in this league only gets you so far.

Our most skilled player is Josh Hubbard who is 5'9" with alot of limitations due to his size (not his fault), Davis Flemming has a bright future and looks like he can develop into a really good skilled big but he is a true Freshman, Jayden Epps is pretty skilled as well but also has limitations... and that's really all the skill we have, everyone else is a junk yard dog type player. Your aren't going to win like that.

The more that I think about it, last years team is Jans best team to date in terms of talent. Hubbard, Kugel, Murphy, Melendez, Harris, Matthews, Nwoko, Russell etc. That team had pretty much everything but Jans couldn't do much with that team either.

trob115
01-14-2026, 12:20 PM
Barring a scandal, Jans job is safe for next season. He completely whiffed on post/wing players in the portal this year. All of our best players from last year (except Hub) transferred out.

If we had kept Nwoko and Murphy, we would be a completely different team. Hubbard, Epps, Mcgee( we don't have a real 3 on this team), Murphy, Nwoko. That lineup would win a lot more games.


We do not have a real 4 or 5. Ballard is soft as charmin. I hate watching him play. The Euro is a good bench piece.


Amir Ali has done a great job holding down left and right bench. Achor can do a decent job rebounding, but he can't throw it in the ocean.

Coach34
01-14-2026, 12:25 PM
Biggest problem I see besides tiny guards is we lack a 3 guy. Somebody that's 6'6 and gives us 13/6 every night plus play some D.

AROB44
01-14-2026, 12:52 PM
Fire em alllllllllll!!!! **** it- let's get a new coach in every sport every season!!!!!

That's what this board thrives on. I wonder how many of these geniuses run their business this way. They always know more than every coach, AD and University President but they never get any of those jobs when they come open. Wonder why?

maroonmania
01-14-2026, 02:26 PM
I've been up and down on Jans. I really think he is a solid coach, but I think he does his best work at lower tier programs. He can coach up a bunch of lesser talented mid major guys and probably actually upset some teams while doing so, his style of coaching fits that underdog, grit and grind type player who just works hard, defends and rebounds... he has had success at a lower level with those type players. But that doesn't work in the SEC, you need athletes up and down the roster who can score in multiple ways, you need shooters, you need skilled big men etc. That bring your lunch pale to work style of coaching in this league only gets you so far.

Our most skilled player is Josh Hubbard who is 5'9" with alot of limitations due to his size (not his fault), Davis Flemming has a bright future and looks like he can develop into a really good skilled big but he is a true Freshman, Jayden Epps is pretty skilled as well but also has limitations... and that's really all the skill we have, everyone else is a junk yard dog type player. Your aren't going to win like that.

The more that I think about it, last years team is Jans best team to date in terms of talent. Hubbard, Kugel, Murphy, Melendez, Harris, Matthews, Nwoko, Russell etc. That team had pretty much everything but Jans couldn't do much with that team either.

Jans' job is definitely safe but I am starting to lose faith in him. He should thank his lucky stars that he has had Hubbard the past couple of years because without him our offense would be awful. Theoretically we should still have Hubbard for another year but Jans has had multiple seasons now to add and keep other solid contributors around Hubbard and has failed to do so. If he had built around Hubbard with another 1 or 2 big time guys we could really have had something this season but he that hasn't happened. Feels like a totally lost opportunity. When Jans first got here we at least had hard nosed defense to hang our hat on but that seems to be long gone.

MoreCowbell
01-14-2026, 02:36 PM
I've been up and down on Jans. I really think he is a solid coach, but I think he does his best work at lower tier programs. He can coach up a bunch of lesser talented mid major guys and probably actually upset some teams while doing so, his style of coaching fits that underdog, grit and grind type player who just works hard, defends and rebounds... he has had success at a lower level with those type players. But that doesn't work in the SEC, you need athletes up and down the roster who can score in multiple ways, you need shooters, you need skilled big men etc. That bring your lunch pale to work style of coaching in this league only gets you so far.

Our most skilled player is Josh Hubbard who is 5'9" with alot of limitations due to his size (not his fault), Davis Flemming has a bright future and looks like he can develop into a really good skilled big but he is a true Freshman, Jayden Epps is pretty skilled as well but also has limitations... and that's really all the skill we have, everyone else is a junk yard dog type player. Your aren't going to win like that.

The more that I think about it, last years team is Jans best team to date in terms of talent. Hubbard, Kugel, Murphy, Melendez, Harris, Matthews, Nwoko, Russell etc. That team had pretty much everything but Jans couldn't do much with that team either.

I agree and especially in the NIL era. Player coaches are going to succeed more than ass chewers.

parabrave
01-14-2026, 04:01 PM
Biggest problem I see besides tiny guards is we lack a 3 guy. Somebody that's 6'6 and gives us 13/6 every night plus play some D.

Achor has been a big surprise and a welcome one also but if Hub goes cold or they force him into 3s we dead meat. We do miss defense down low. Nothing wrong with the scoring but teams are taking more than 10 shots the last 2 games. So far this year we are leading in most stats including turnovers but the opps are shooting more FTs than us. We are actually even in the 3PT cat.

CaptainObvious
01-14-2026, 04:28 PM
I don?t want to fire Jans. His pay should be cut and his NIL funds cut and Men?s basketball should be treated like the 4th most important sport on campus, but I?m fine with Jans at $2.5 million and $ 3 milllion allowance for NIL

Ranchdawg
01-14-2026, 04:58 PM
I don’t know what is going on with Jans. If we don’t have enough money to get players. If we just have gotten lazy. If it’s the regular MSU way that coaches start out good then just become very mediocre.

Jans has not forgotten how to coach. Anybody that can get a team to the NCAA tournament without anyone that can shoot a 3pt shot has to be darn good (Jans 1st year).

But what I have seen from Jans and this team this year something is not right. The last two games just down right embarrassing. Being embarrassed does not sit well with me and especially true the amount of coin we are paying Jans. Selmon needs to have a come to Jesus with Jans.

Tripp McNeely
01-14-2026, 05:03 PM
Looks like it was just a lot of bad evaluations in the front court with portal players. Sounds like we need to spend some money on some player personnel staff

EdwardDrayton
01-14-2026, 07:24 PM
Fire em alllllllllll!!!! **** it- let's get a new coach in every sport every season!!!!!

You're fired.

parabrave
01-14-2026, 07:54 PM
Well right now LSu is kicking the sh&* out of the Blue. Of course they're playing in BR And it's halftime. But KY 2-12 at the 3.

EdwardDrayton
01-14-2026, 08:01 PM
Well right now LSu is kicking the sh&* out of the Blue. Of course they're playing in BR And it's halftime. But KY 2-12 at the 3.

LSU 0-3 playing for their first conference win. Folks will race here though to say Big Blue will be top three in the end. *****

schddog72
01-14-2026, 08:34 PM
This!!

parabrave
01-14-2026, 09:43 PM
And Down goes LSU.

Coach34
01-14-2026, 10:12 PM
LSU 0-3 playing for their first conference win. Folks will race here though to say Big Blue will be top three in the end. *****

Kentucky wins. Some people never learn

EdwardDrayton
01-14-2026, 10:15 PM
Kentucky wins. Some people never learn

LOL! That's what you got from that game!!! LOL!! Now I'm beginning to understand your takes on everything!!

R2Dawg
01-15-2026, 01:06 PM
Achor has been a big surprise and a welcome one also but if Hub goes cold or they force him into 3s we dead meat. We do miss defense down low. Nothing wrong with the scoring but teams are taking more than 10 shots the last 2 games. So far this year we are leading in most stats including turnovers but the opps are shooting more FTs than us. We are actually even in the 3PT cat.

Achor has been a surprise. When he is engaged in the game, he is good on both ends. Ballard is a disappointment; he is too slow mentally physically. He just doesn't react well to much and lost much of the time.

PGHBulldogBG
01-15-2026, 01:33 PM
I see a lot of people complaining about the defense. Don't get me wrong, I think it is problematic, but we are technically middle of the pack defensively in the SEC. The biggest problem is that we do not have any bigs that are consistent enough to provide us points underneath, resulting in our offense not being able to keep pace. Ballard is the highest and he only averages 6 points a game. That is not enough to compete with the top 7 teams in this league. Eppes and McGhee are also not consistent enough either. Honestly, I wish we could get McGhee more shots from beyond the arc because he is our best shooter from behind the line.