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CaptainObvious
12-11-2025, 08:16 PM
So far no Troy for State

CaptainObvious
12-11-2025, 08:17 PM
Alabama at State on Oct 3

CaptainObvious
12-11-2025, 08:22 PM
After Bama plays in Starkvegas, they play Georgia, Tennessee, and A&M back to back to back! 😁😁

Skydawg1
12-11-2025, 08:26 PM
State @ LSU Oct 17th

CaptainObvious
12-11-2025, 08:35 PM
Egg Bowl on Saturday in 2026!

RisperDawg
12-11-2025, 08:50 PM
Going to try to go to South Carolina. Hate it's so early in the season, though. Columbia is God awful hot.

BlackSailsDawg
12-11-2025, 08:56 PM
Sound like the the same ole. We get the toughest schedule

BlackSailsDawg
12-11-2025, 08:59 PM
Now where can we find 6 wins. We got 3 OC games. Auburn can be a win. Ole Miss. BUT after that, the road is hard to get to 6

Rawdawg
12-11-2025, 09:05 PM
2026 Schedule:
September 5: vs. Louisiana Monroe
Sept. 12: at Minnesota
Sept. 19: at South Carolina
Sept. 26: vs. Missouri
October 3: vs. Alabama
Oct 10: Bye
Oct. 17: at LSU
Oct. 24: vs. Oklahoma
Oct. 31: at Texas
November 7: vs. Vandy
Nov. 14: vs. Auburn
Nov. 21: vs. Tennessee Tech
Nov. 28: at Ole Miss

PGHBulldogBG
12-11-2025, 09:15 PM
That October schedule is brutal

Coach34
12-11-2025, 09:22 PM
5 wins gonna be tough to get no matter who coaches us

BeardoMSU
12-11-2025, 09:35 PM
We're still paying collateral for winning in OMAHA....****

JC what a brutal schedule.

Tater
12-11-2025, 09:36 PM
Any worse than 3-1 going into Bama loses the fanbase.

In order of winnability imo:

vs. Tennessee Tech
vs. UL Monroe
vs. Auburn
at Minnesota
at Ole Miss
at SCar
vs. Vandy
at LSU
vs. Mizzou
vs. Bama
at Texas
vs. OU

You can talk yourself into 8-9 wins based on others not being the behemoths you think. 10+ is possible if everything breaks right. Hosting OU being the toughest game means no "unwinnable" game. We get 3 SEC teams with a first year coach - maybe up to 5 depending on how NFL jobs and the michigan domino fall.

CaptainObvious
12-11-2025, 09:38 PM
ULM
Minnesota
South Carolina
Missouri
Vandy
Auburn
Tennessee Tech
Ole Miss

We should be able to find 6 wins out of these 8. If not, we will be hiring a new entire Staff next December.

Coach34
12-11-2025, 09:53 PM
ULM
Minnesota
South Carolina
Missouri
Vandy
Auburn
Tennessee Tech
Ole Miss

We should be able to find 6 wins out of these 8. If not, we will be hiring a new entire Staff next December.

Better buy some talent. We'll be the underdog in at least half of those if not 5

Quaoarsking
12-11-2025, 09:57 PM
We probably have to be at least 3-1 at the end of September to have any real shot of making a bowl. (And I don't mean a 5-7 bowl.)

October is going to be rough, and we have 3 SEC games in November that who knows what to expect.

FISHDAWG
12-11-2025, 10:19 PM
I see 6 and 6 .... and I'm a skeptic by nature

DawgFromOxford
12-11-2025, 10:20 PM
That October schedule is brutal

What do you mean? We have a bye week ***

DownwardDawg
12-11-2025, 10:27 PM
7-5

DEDawg
12-11-2025, 10:43 PM
Looking at the schedule is impossible right now. Let's see how serious we are after another humiliating egg bowl loss and if we hit the portal like we should.

maroonmania
12-11-2025, 10:54 PM
Why are we still playing Minnesota? P4 game still a requirement even with 9 SEC games? Contractual thing? If we now have to play 9 SEC games plus a P4 game every year its going to be tough sledding for us EVERY year.

Coach34
12-11-2025, 11:01 PM
Why are we still playing Minnesota? P4 game still a requirement even with 9 SEC games? Contractual thing? If we now have to play 9 SEC games plus a P4 game every year its going to be tough sledding for us EVERY year.

Yes it is. Now we only get 2 guaranteed wins. We cant compete in this current situation

We got people bitching about how much we spent in 2025 and didnt win 6 when we were last or next to last in the SEC in spending

CaptainObvious
12-11-2025, 11:28 PM
Yes it is. Now we only get 2 guaranteed wins. We cant compete in this current situation

We got people bitching about how much we spent in 2025 and didnt win 6 when we were last or next to last in the SEC in spending

We will go 6-6. Outside shot at 7-5. That is our forever lot from here on out. We better accept it and go enjoy the dang minor bowl games that come with that kind of record.

StarkVegasSteve
12-11-2025, 11:43 PM
We will go 6-6. Outside shot at 7-5. That is our forever lot from here on out. We better accept it and go enjoy the dang minor bowl games that come with that kind of record.

I will have to see how everyone does in the portal before I make any overarching guesses on how other teams will look. I was not impressed with any SEC team outside of Georgia. We were not a great football team and we were in every game in the second half except Georgia.

I think eight wins is a reasonable goal next year. But you get there. We have to get better across both lines, Kamario needs to improve his accuracy, and we really need a couple of receivers out of the portal who could step in and step up. We also need to re-tool the secondary. That sounds like a lot, but everyone else is going to have to do just about the same thing.

maroonmania
12-11-2025, 11:43 PM
Yes it is. Now we only get 2 guaranteed wins. We cant compete in this current situation

We got people bitching about how much we spent in 2025 and didnt win 6 when we were last or next to last in the SEC in spending

We spent enough to have easily gone 7-5 if we hadn't done stupid things like throw an INT against FL at the end when we were already in FG position to win or not rough the passer in the TX game when we had a 17 point lead in the 4th Q and ready to take possession of the ball deep in TX territory. There are still multiple games a year that come down to coaching and not doing stupid things during the game to lose them. Those are the things we need to get better at. No matter what we spend in NIL, the majority of the SEC will always be able to spend more. Its just our lot in life unless we get a booster that somehow becomes a billionaire and wants to blow his money paying college players.

CaptainObvious
12-12-2025, 12:08 AM
We spent enough to have easily gone 7-5 if we hadn't done stupid things like throw an INT against FL at the end when we were already in FG position to win or not rough the passer in the TX game when we had a 17 point lead in the 4th Q and ready to take possession of the ball deep in TX territory. There are still multiple games a year that come down to coaching and not doing stupid things during the game to lose them. Those are the things we need to get better at. No matter what we spend in NIL, the majority of the SEC will always be able to spend more. Its just our lot in life unless we get a booster that somehow becomes a billionaire and wants to blow his money paying college players.

Well, I?m only 6 numbers away from winning hundreds of millions in the lottery but I still wouldn?t blow money on college players. Maybe an island off the coast of Belize though.

Todd4State
12-12-2025, 01:32 AM
We spent enough to have easily gone 7-5 if we hadn't done stupid things like throw an INT against FL at the end when we were already in FG position to win or not rough the passer in the TX game when we had a 17 point lead in the 4th Q and ready to take possession of the ball deep in TX territory. There are still multiple games a year that come down to coaching and not doing stupid things during the game to lose them. Those are the things we need to get better at. No matter what we spend in NIL, the majority of the SEC will always be able to spend more. Its just our lot in life unless we get a booster that somehow becomes a billionaire and wants to blow his money paying college players.

Those games aren't even that close if we had a decent offensive and defensive line. One play and one coaching decision good or bad does not win or lose the entire game.

The encouraging thing is that we had that many close games and went from 2-10 and basically not competitive to competitive in one offseason. We made up a lot of ground. And honestly, if the schedule was a little bit more manageable like if we played Auburn and South Carolina instead of Georgia and Florida- we might have gotten to 6 or 7 wins easily.

Todd4State
12-12-2025, 01:46 AM
I think we can compete in this era but it's not just NIL. It's a combination of things. You have to have a perfect storm go on.

We have to have stability because that's the only way we can build a team with the talent to compete. And I'm talking about through the portal and through high school recruiting. That means a competent coach that has been here for a few seasons and has built a program in place and has a foundation.

We also have to have a schedule that hits right as well. All teams cycle out. No matter what. Even Alabama and Georgia will. Now, yes they take longer to cycle out but it happens. If we catch enough teams that are in a down cycle plus we have stability that's when we have the recipe for a potentially special season. That's what happened to us in 1998 and 1999. At that time teams like Alabama, Auburm, and LSU were trending down and we were able to get South Carolina on a downtrend along with Vandy. Kentucky was up but basically the same as us and same for Ole Miss at that time. Same thing has happened to Ole Miss the past few years.

With this new schedule format, I feel like we have a much better chance of catching teams on a downtrend than before. We don't have to play Nick Saban era Alabama every year anymore. Well, we do but that could change in four years. We also don't have to play LSU and Auburn every year anymore. We had to do that every year for what? 75 years or more?

And sure, we'll also cycle out at some point and have schedules like we had this year every now and then but the odds of us having something more manageable is also much higher too.

Rawdawg
12-12-2025, 07:44 AM
We spent enough to have easily gone 7-5 if we hadn't done stupid things like throw an INT against FL at the end when we were already in FG position to win or not rough the passer in the TX game when we had a 17 point lead in the 4th Q and ready to take possession of the ball deep in TX territory. There are still multiple games a year that come down to coaching and not doing stupid things during the game to lose them. Those are the things we need to get better at. No matter what we spend in NIL, the majority of the SEC will always be able to spend more. It?s just our lot in life unless we get a booster that somehow becomes a billionaire and wants to blow his money paying college players.

We didn?t spend enough money to easily do anything. We spent enough money to have to coach and execute at near perfection.

confucius say
12-12-2025, 08:37 AM
We will go 6-6. Outside shot at 7-5. That is our forever lot from here on out. We better accept it and go enjoy the dang minor bowl games that come with that kind of record.

Meh. The 2018 team coached by Dan or the 2014 team would win 8-9 against that schedule.
And we were at the bottom of the SEC on roster spending both of those years, too.

We just have to get some lineman. We will have the most physically gifted QB in every game we play. He is a generational talent.

StarkVegasSteve
12-12-2025, 09:22 AM
Meh. The 2018 team coached by Dan or the 2014 team would win 8-9 against that schedule.
And we were at the bottom of the SEC on roster spending both of those years, too.

We just have to get some lineman. We will have the most physically gifted QB in every game we play. He is a generational talent.

Looking at the schedule, you may be right. Looking at the schedule, the only teams that could challenge us on that would be Bama(if they start Keelon Russell) or LSU(if they get Bryce Underwood to transfer. Outside of that we will have the better QB in every game. And that matters in college football.

quickstrike2
12-12-2025, 09:56 AM
Better buy some talent. We'll be the underdog in at least half of those if not 5

Already sent in your big check?

confucius say
12-12-2025, 10:48 AM
Looking at the schedule, you may be right. Looking at the schedule, the only teams that could challenge us on that would be Bama(if they start Keelon Russell) or LSU(if they get Bryce Underwood to transfer. Outside of that we will have the better QB in every game. And that matters in college football.

I'm not necessarily going to say better. We may. But I will say most physically gifted (big, strong, fast, stronger arm).

DownwardDawg
12-12-2025, 10:56 AM
Already sent in your big check?

Trying to understand...So if a person doesn't send in a very large amount of money, that person can't say we need a lot of money to be able to compete with the other SEC teams????

quickstrike2
12-12-2025, 11:13 AM
Trying to understand...So if a person doesn't send in a very large amount of money, that person can't say we need a lot of money to be able to compete with the other SEC teams????

When it gets said over and over by the same person, it just gets old. I have seen it so much, Coach telling everybody they better fund it if they want it. That's a fact, but its easier to point the finger instead of the thumb.

Goldendawg
12-12-2025, 11:32 AM
We play in the SEC and the schedule is challenging most every year. For decades, I have felt it was unfair that we seldom played Vandy. Well, now we have them as a permanent opponent.**** We have to step up and move up as a program. I doubt any other SEC has feared playing us the last three years and are glad to see us on their schedule. This has to end ASAP. Do your part in any way you can to WIN now. Looking good losing, or even worse, looking bad losing does not fill seats at DWS or retain interest in MSU football.

DawgFromOxford
12-12-2025, 11:43 AM
The schedule is fine. It's not any better or worse than most years. Fact is when you're the "easy win" on everyone else's schedule of course the schedule is going to look difficult. There's a path to 6+ wins so buckle up and enjoy the Kamario Taylor experience

CaptainObvious
12-12-2025, 11:46 AM
It?s more of the same by one particular person in here telling this crowd which I suspect lives slightly below their means that they need to essentially take food out of their kids mouths to help fund spoiled 18-21 year olds who couldn?t pour piss out of the bottle with direction a on it! NO! just NO! This needs to be funded by those fans and alumni who make $150,000 plus to $40 million plus per year. Not the $60,000-$70,000 earners who mostly make up the MSU Fanbase!

So 34 and friends. Just stop it! It ain?t coming from us middle income folks. It has to come from the wealthiest supporters and the rest of us buy tickets and yell like hell and ring our bell!

CaptainObvious
12-12-2025, 11:47 AM
The schedule is fine. It's not any better or worse than most years. Fact is when you're the "easy win" on everyone else's schedule of course the schedule is going to look difficult. There's a path to 6+ wins so buckle up and enjoy the Kamario Taylor experience

^^^^^^^^^^^^

BorneDawg
12-12-2025, 11:53 AM
It?s more of the same by one particular person in here telling this crowd which I suspect lives slightly below their means that they need to essentially take food out of their kids mouths to help fund spoiled 18-21 year olds who couldn?t pour piss out of the bottle with direction a on it! NO! just NO! This needs to be funded by those fans and alumni who make $150,000 plus to $40 million plus per year. Not the $60,000-$70,000 earners who mostly make up the MSU Fanbase!

So 34 and friends. Just stop it! It ain?t coming from us middle income folks. It has to come from the wealthiest supporters and the rest of us buy tickets and yell like hell and ring our bell!

This! I cant even afford to take family to a game anymore.....

StarkVegasSteve
12-12-2025, 12:18 PM
It?s more of the same by one particular person in here telling this crowd which I suspect lives slightly below their means that they need to essentially take food out of their kids mouths to help fund spoiled 18-21 year olds who couldn?t pour piss out of the bottle with direction a on it! NO! just NO! This needs to be funded by those fans and alumni who make $150,000 plus to $40 million plus per year. Not the $60,000-$70,000 earners who mostly make up the MSU Fanbase!

So 34 and friends. Just stop it! It ain?t coming from us middle income folks. It has to come from the wealthiest supporters and the rest of us buy tickets and yell like hell and ring our bell!

So let's use your math and say that 65% of the MSU fan base is made up of people who make 60K-70K/year. That's probably 35-40K people. If you can get those people to give $50/month, which is a drop in the hat, that's 21 million-24 million dollars in NIL. If you only asked for $25/month that's still 10.5 million-12 million.

So it actually can come from middle income folks. No one is asking you to give 5-10K/year to NIL. Just give $50/month. If you get enough people doing it, then it makes a difference. This isn't rocket science.

Political Hack
12-12-2025, 12:44 PM
Need to win 4-5 home games and steal 1-2 on the road to be bowling. It's not an easy schedule, but it's easier than this year. We have winnable games at home.

Tater
12-12-2025, 12:52 PM
It?s more of the same by one particular person in here telling this crowd which I suspect lives slightly below their means that they need to essentially take food out of their kids mouths to help fund spoiled 18-21 year olds who couldn?t pour piss out of the bottle with direction a on it! NO! just NO! This needs to be funded by those fans and alumni who make $150,000 plus to $40 million plus per year. Not the $60,000-$70,000 earners who mostly make up the MSU Fanbase!

So 34 and friends. Just stop it! It ain?t coming from us middle income folks. It has to come from the wealthiest supporters and the rest of us buy tickets and yell like hell and ring our bell!

Agreed. Telling folks on a message board to donate $10 more a month ain't moving the needle. We need to be creative in the athletic office. Other SEC schools recruiting billionaire grandkids and getting their NIL into the fold. Find them in non football sports and get them into the football sphere.

BorneDawg
12-12-2025, 12:54 PM
So let's use your math and say that 65% of the MSU fan base is made up of people who make 60K-70K/year. That's probably 35-40K people. If you can get those people to give $50/month, which is a drop in the hat, that's 21 million-24 million dollars in NIL. If you only asked for $25/month that's still 10.5 million-12 million.

So it actually can come from middle income folks. No one is asking you to give 5-10K/year to NIL. Just give $50/month. If you get enough people doing it, then it makes a difference. This isn't rocket science.

drop in the hat..... buddy we got different hats then! I feel like i've won the lottery if i finish the month with $50 left in my checking account... thats a month when something didn't go wrong(which rarely happens) We bring in 105k yearly but those last 4 years of Biden's inflation and the cost of supporting a family of 5 drained any savings I had. pair that with some not so good luck with batteries and appliances(tearing up) insurance thru the roof... hell my house payment is going up again in Jan due to taxes and Ins... I'm barley keeping my head above waqer.... work 3 jobs and never take vacations drive 20 year old vehicles at that.....

DownwardDawg
12-12-2025, 12:55 PM
It?s more of the same by one particular person in here telling this crowd which I suspect lives slightly below their means that they need to essentially take food out of their kids mouths to help fund spoiled 18-21 year olds who couldn?t pour piss out of the bottle with direction a on it! NO! just NO! This needs to be funded by those fans and alumni who make $150,000 plus to $40 million plus per year. Not the $60,000-$70,000 earners who mostly make up the MSU Fanbase!

So 34 and friends. Just stop it! It ain?t coming from us middle income folks. It has to come from the wealthiest supporters and the rest of us buy tickets and yell like hell and ring our bell!

I agree. Just like LSU and the rest of the blue bloods. I'm friends with some serious LSU fans that make good money. They aren't contributing a penny other than tickets, etc.....

CaptainObvious
12-12-2025, 01:07 PM
We need Jed Clampett to shoot a rabbit on campus and find out Davis Wade is sitting on a gold mine! Black Gold! Texas T!

Maroon Glasses
12-12-2025, 01:10 PM
drop in the hat..... buddy we got different hats then! I feel like i've won the lottery if i finish the month with $50 left in my checking account... thats a month when something didn't go wrong(which rarely happens) We bring in 105k yearly but those last 4 years of Biden's inflation and the cost of supporting a family of 5 drained any savings I had. pair that with some not so good luck with batteries and appliances(tearing up) insurance thru the roof... hell my house payment is going up again in Jan due to taxes and Ins... I'm barley keeping my head above waqer.... work 3 jobs and never take vacations drive 20 year old vehicles at that.....

I've got a family of 6 man and let me tell you... I understand!

TrapGame
12-12-2025, 01:19 PM
Fellas, when I win the billion dollars I got us covered. ****

Coach34
12-12-2025, 01:19 PM
! So 34 and friends. Just stop it! It ain?t coming from us middle income folks. It has to come from the wealthiest supporters and the rest of us buy tickets and yell like hell and ring our bell!

Oh no doubt. I'm right there with you. The difference is that because I cant send a few grand to support the purchase of talent- I have no expectations of winning. Im not gonna get pissed weekend over weekend when we are the less talented team.

And you better enjoy KT in 2026. Because if he has the year people are expecting- he will get bought away from us for 2027 by a blue blood that can help him win a Heisman.

BlackSailsDawg
12-12-2025, 01:25 PM
Better buy some talent. We'll be the underdog in at least half of those if not 5

*STEPS ONTO SOAP BOX*

It blows my mind that our fans can not grasp this. The only conclusion I can come up with is that those fans 100% believe that we are all of equal talent when stepping on to the field. WE ARE NOT.

List these games like he did saying we should win these ignores all reality. I mean ALL of it. Vandy a win? They won 9 this year and just took the #3 QB in AMERICA from UGA with money spent. Hell, do they even know who got THE #1 QB ... Houston! If we played Houston and got beat our fans would melt because "it's Houston" because they refuse to live in the here and now.

We have posters/fans complaining about winning and then complaining about taking from their kids to buy players. Look, it's not like that at all. It's the understanding that is the issue. If we can not compete in purchasing players, just stop with the whining and complaining about a coaching staff. Understand what it is.

BlackSailsDawg
12-12-2025, 01:31 PM
Oh no doubt. I'm right there with you. The difference is that because I cant send a few grand to support the purchase of talent- I have no expectations of winning. Im not gonna get pissed weekend over weekend when we are the less talented team.

And you better enjoy KT in 2026. Because if he has the year people are expecting- he will get bought away from us for 2027 by a blue blood that can help him win a Heisman.

OMG... THIS!!!!!!!!!!!

"Damn it!! LEBBY better win 'x' games or else because I won't STAND FOR IT!!". Yeah.. you won't stand for it, but you can't pay for it. If you can't pay for it, it's all good. Nobody is faulting the fans who can not. But those fans need to come back to earth and just live in reality.

This is the same thing as me saying to those fans "you have to go because you can not and will not produce a player of caliber for MS ST! It's YOUR FAULT FAN!" Just as stupid as the fan saying it's the coaching staff.

maroonmania
12-12-2025, 04:00 PM
We didn?t spend enough money to easily do anything. We spent enough money to have to coach and execute at near perfection.

We certainly didn't have to execute near perfection to win 7. We had the most penalized team in the league and our special teams were some of the very worst in the league. And the things I'm talking about are doing stupid stuff and being undisciplined. I'm not talking about things where you just are outdone athletically. We were so far from perfection on how we executed that its not even worth discussing.

Gutter Cobreh
12-12-2025, 04:14 PM
OMG... THIS!!!!!!!!!!!

"Damn it!! LEBBY better win 'x' games or else because I won't STAND FOR IT!!". Yeah.. you won't stand for it, but you can't pay for it. If you can't pay for it, it's all good. Nobody is faulting the fans who can not. But those fans need to come back to earth and just live in reality.

This is the same thing as me saying to those fans "you have to go because you can not and will not produce a player of caliber for MS ST! It's YOUR FAULT FAN!" Just as stupid as the fan saying it's the coaching staff.

It's taken some time to work through, but it seems as though a majority on this board are now towards the end of the seven stages of grief w/ college football.

Some worked through it quicker than others, but nice to see a more logical board returning.

Private equity, though, will indeed kill college football - as expressed in the other thread. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. They will bleed it and us dry....

Bothrops
12-12-2025, 04:16 PM
2026 Schedule:
September 5: vs. Louisiana Monroe
Sept. 12: at Minnesota
Sept. 19: at South Carolina
Sept. 26: vs. Missouri
October 3: vs. Alabama
Oct 10: Bye
Oct. 17: at LSU
Oct. 24: vs. Oklahoma
Oct. 31: at Texas
November 7: vs. Vandy
Nov. 14: vs. Auburn
Nov. 21: vs. Tennessee Tech
Nov. 28: at Ole Miss

I thought A&M was on our 3 year list. We are going to have to spend way more than we are prepared to spend to go 6-6.

Pancho
12-12-2025, 04:39 PM
brutal and who said the 26 schedule was easier than 25?

Tater
12-12-2025, 05:20 PM
brutal and who said the 26 schedule was easier than 25?

We go from 4 prior year playoff teams down to 3. We lose Aggy & Georgia but do gain Bama & OU. OM is very likely to be worse. We gain SCar, rebuilding Auburn, minnesota, and Vandy in a trade for Arizona State, UF, NIU, and Arky. Keep Texsa / Mizzou. LSU for UTenn. Wash with USM/FCS for ULM/FCS.

It's largely a wash compared to what we had this year, except this year we went in thinking it was murderer's row. Now with hindsight we don't think it's so bad. So next year has to be worse. But really

vs. Georgia > vs. Bama
@ Aggy > vs. OU
vs. Texsa ~ @ Texsa
@ Mizzou ~ vs. Mizzou
vs. LK OM > @ PG OM
vs. Tenn ~ @LSU
vs. ASU ~ vs. No Pavia Vandy
@ UF ~ vs. Aub
@ Ark ~ @ Minn
vs. NIU < @ SCar
@ USM > vs. ULM
vs. FCS ~ vs. FCS

You could argue Texsa is tougher next year and Mizzou is easier next year - that's why I washed those out. Other than that, we get largely the same and easier top end games. Then we trade a G5 non conference game for one of the bottom of the SEC road games. And OM becomes a much easier game.

Seems to me like it pretty clearly is easier than this year.

BlackSailsDawg
12-12-2025, 05:30 PM
It's taken some time to work through, but it seems as though a majority on this board are now towards the end of the seven stages of grief w/ college football.

Some worked through it quicker than others, but nice to see a more logical board returning.

Private equity, though, will indeed kill college football - as expressed in the other thread. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. They will bleed it and us dry....

I agree. At some point, the federal gov will have to address this.

Coach34
12-12-2025, 06:36 PM
We certainly didn't have to execute near perfection to win 7. We had the most penalized team in the league and our special teams were some of the very worst in the league. And the things I'm talking about are doing stupid stuff and being undisciplined. I'm not talking about things where you just are outdone athletically. We were so far from perfection on how we executed that its not even worth discussing.

Teams that are bad on ST’s are teams that usually lack talent. Lack of coverage means you lack depth on defense as you try to keep starters off ST’s. How many kicks did we have blocked this year? One? That shows we protected well enough from the coaching standpoint.

BrunswickDawg
12-12-2025, 06:53 PM
We certainly didn't have to execute near perfection to win 7. We had the most penalized team in the league and our special teams were some of the very worst in the league. And the things I'm talking about are doing stupid stuff and being undisciplined. I'm not talking about things where you just are outdone athletically. We were so far from perfection on how we executed that its not even worth discussing.

We were not the most penalized team in the conference. Overall we were the 11th least penalized. In conference games only we were the 4th least penalized team. It's something we actually got better about as the season went on.

Did we have some crucially dumb penalties? Absolutely.

LC Dawg
12-12-2025, 08:12 PM
I think our floor is 2 wins and ceiling is 8. Everyone likes to talk about the games we "should" have won but there is also the reality that 2 of our wins were a play away from being losses.
6 wins would be a hell of an accomplishment and much much better than our 5 wins this year.

Extendedcab
12-12-2025, 08:35 PM
So let's use your math and say that 65% of the MSU fan base is made up of people who make 60K-70K/year. That's probably 35-40K people. If you can get those people to give $50/month, which is a drop in the hat, that's 21 million-24 million dollars in NIL. If you only asked for $25/month that's still 10.5 million-12 million.

So it actually can come from middle income folks. No one is asking you to give 5-10K/year to NIL. Just give $50/month. If you get enough people doing it, then it makes a difference. This isn't rocket science.

I find this vein of reasoning truly ridiculous as college sports is the only category or level of sports that is, thanks to NIL, where the fans are asked or highly encouraged or demanded to pay the players! Even the professional teams do not ask the fans to pay the players directly. If you wonder why MSU fans and others school fans as well do not have the same NIL funding level as some “blue blood” schools that have some very rich benefactors, look no further. It is asinine to ask the fans, after 100+ of collegiate sports to now start paying the players (used to be student athletes).

This is not traditional collegiate sports or pro sports as they do not “make” the fans pay the players directly in order to be competitive. This is above and beyond the fans call of duty! This situation sours a lot of fans.