You gotta admit

[Todd4State]

Hiring Arnett one day and then firing Bumphis two days later is kind of funny.

Pretty clear that Jeff Lebby isn't listening to any boosters. Or he's just trying to piss everyone off. I don't know.

[HancockCountyDog]

As long as he wins 7-8 games next year, I don't care if he wants us to be known as Miss. State.

The last 6 years have been brutal. Kiffin is gone, the door is cracked open, and we can become relevant again.

If he thinks this is what it takes, ok.

[TrapGame]

As long as he wins 7-8 games next year, I don't care if he wants us to be known as Miss. State.

The last 6 years have been brutal. Kiffin is gone, the door is cracked open, and we can become relevant again.

If he thinks this is what it takes, ok.

Yep, as long as we win 7 or 8 games next year I don?t care who is hired or fired. I want to see positive results.

[msstate7]

6-7 wins is progress and a reasonable goal. 8 wins is crazy tough expectations with 9 sec games

[Quaoarsking]

As long as he wins 7-8 games next year, I don't care if he wants us to be known as Miss. State.

The last 6 years have been brutal. Kiffin is gone, the door is cracked open, and we can become relevant again.

If he thinks this is what it takes, ok.

2021 and 2022 weren't remotely "brutal" - we finished ranked in 2022, and 2021 at least had a bowl and the 3rd best offense in school history (#1 without Dak)

[DownwardDawg]

6-7 wins is progress and a reasonable goal. 8 wins is crazy tough expectations with 9 sec games

I agree, but after I saw us against Texas, Tennessee, and Florida this year, I realize that anything really can happen. We have no idea how good any SEC teams will be next year.

[Coursesuper]

Done playing nice, Bump was warned before and chose not to do what is required for his station. He’s paying the toll for his decisions.

[HancockCountyDog]

2021 and 2022 weren't remotely "brutal" - we finished ranked in 2022, and 2021 at least had a bowl and the 3rd best offense in school history (#1 without Dak)

2022 wasn't brutal, it helped that we won the egg.

The rest I'll stand on. 2020, 2021, 2023, 2024, and now 2025. It has been brutal. 1-5 in egg bowls. 3 straight home egg bowl losses. SEC record of 12-37. Losses to Toledo and Memphis.

The salt in the wound is the ****ing bears/rebels being the third best team in the SEC during this same stretch is infuriating. So yeah, i don't care who he hires and fires. Do whatever he thinks he needs to do.

[Doggie_Style]

As long as he wins 7-8 games next year, I don't care if he wants us to be known as Miss. State.

The last 6 years have been brutal. Kiffin is gone, the door is cracked open, and we can become relevant again.

If he thinks this is what it takes, ok.

Zero chance we will win 7 next year,,,,, 6 would be miracle

[Jarius]

Zero chance we will win 7 next year,,,,, 6 would be miracle

This is an insane take. We should have won 8 this year and next year’s schedule will be easier.

[Quaoarsking]

This is an insane take. We should have won 8 this year and next year’s schedule will be easier.

There's no way to know this, but since we have 10 P4 games and 2 scrubs rather than 9 and 3, I doubt it.

[ArrowDawg]

6-7 wins is progress and a reasonable goal. 8 wins is crazy tough expectations with 9 sec games

6 wins is in no way, shape, or form "progress" next year. Lebby could have had that this year.

[RezDog7]

6 wins is in no way, shape, or form "progress" next year. Lebby could have had that this year.

Playoffs or he's fired ***

[Coach34]

Just hoping for 6 wins. That continues to make progress. And if we win 6 Lebby returns for 27- 100%- as he should with the limited NIL he deals with

[msstate7]

6 wins is in no way, shape, or form "progress" next year. Lebby could have had that this year.

I mean 9 sec games is tougher than 8. I'm not a Lebby Stan at all, but 6 wins would be progress bc it means 3 sec wins

[Quaoarsking]

Yeah, I think there's about a 90% chance that 6-6 buys Lebby 2027.

[Jarius]

There's no way to know this, but since we have 10 P4 games and 2 scrubs rather than 9 and 3, I doubt it.

Our SOS will be easier next year.

[Todd4State]

Our SOS will be easier next year.

Let's dive into that a little bit. Hard to tell with the portal how everyone is going to be but...

Ole Miss won't have Lane but it's in Oxford- toss up
Alabama- Loss
Auburn- Toss up, KT might give us an edge here.
LSU in Baton Rouge with Kiffin- big time recipe for a loss for MSU
South Carolina- I think we win this one but it's on the road so toss up
Texas in Austin- Loss
Oklahoma- Toss up but at home probably a loss
Mizzou- wouldn't be surprised if we won or lost this game honestly at home so toss up
Vanderbilt without Pavia- probably a win.

[bulldawg28]

Done playing nice, Bump was warned before and chose not to do what is required for his station. He’s paying the toll for his decisions.

So telling the REAL BOSSES information is what got him fired? Who does Lebby thinks will fire him if he struggles again?

[Todd4State]

So telling the REAL BOSSES information is what got him fired? Who does Lebby thinks will fire him if he struggles again?

That's why I kind of like these moves. It's ballsy. But if they don't work not sure how much support he is going to have.

[Pancho]

So telling the REAL BOSSES information is what got him fired? Who does Lebby thinks will fire him if he struggles again?

one dude gotta be in charge and chad wasn't that dude. he learned a valuable lesson and also cut out a mole source for some media and boosters who think highly of themselves

[Jarius]

Let's dive into that a little bit. Hard to tell with the portal how everyone is going to be but...

Ole Miss won't have Lane but it's in Oxford- toss up
Alabama- Loss
Auburn- Toss up, KT might give us an edge here.
LSU in Baton Rouge with Kiffin- big time recipe for a loss for MSU
South Carolina- I think we win this one but it's on the road so toss up
Texas in Austin- Loss
Oklahoma- Toss up but at home probably a loss
Mizzou- wouldn't be surprised if we won or lost this game honestly at home so toss up
Vanderbilt without Pavia- probably a win.

Plus you have Minnesota which will not be as good as AZ state was this year more than likely. Between 6-8 wins is what I am expecting right now. Obviously that will depend on the portal hauls and what other do in that regard along with us.

[shoeless joe]

Lebby knows he's gotta produce Ws next year. the team was obviously improved this year over last. his own decision making cost us 2/3 games and almost our lone SEC win. but he knows his situation...and if he's gonna go down he's gonna go down doing it his way with his guys and his system. i can respect that...but it better work.

[bulldawg28]

one dude gotta be in charge and chad wasn't that dude. he learned a valuable lesson and also cut out a mole source for some media and boosters who think highly of themselves

Those boosters are the reason he was hired. They'll also be the reason Lebby is retained or fired in 12 months

[bulldawg28]

That's why I kind of like these moves. It's ballsy. But if they don't work not sure how much support he is going to have.

If it doesn't work you know what's about to happen. F.I.R.E.D.

[Bubb Rubb]

Hiring Arnett one day and then firing Bumphis two days later is kind of funny.

Pretty clear that Jeff Lebby isn't listening to any boosters. Or he's just trying to piss everyone off. I don't know.

I hate the Arnett hiring myself. It's extremely lazy. But he's liked by many of our boosters. So I have to ask, where are you getting your info? Because it's laughably wrong.

[Really Clark?]

I hate the Arnett hiring myself. It's extremely lazy. But he's liked by many of our boosters. So I have to ask, where are you getting your info? Because it's laughably wrong.

Wait, hiring Arnett was lazy and a booster move for Lebby. But firing Bump would be 180 degrees in direct conflict of the same logic? Not following your train of thought.

[Coursesuper]

Wait, hiring Arnett was lazy and a booster move for Lebby. But firing Bump would be 180 degrees in direct conflict of the same logic? Not following your train of thought.

I'm pretty sure that train took a dirt road.

[Bubb Rubb]

Wait, hiring Arnett was lazy and a booster move for Lebby. But firing Bump would be 180 degrees in direct conflict of the same logic? Not following your train of thought.

You probably are having trouble following it because it's not what I said.

[BlackSailsDawg]

You probably are having trouble following it because it's not what I said.

I think we are all having a hard time following it.

[Really Clark?]

You probably are having trouble following it because it's not what I said.

It's what it really read like to me and I guess others too. What were you meaning then?

[Bubb Rubb]

It's what it really read like to me and I guess others too. What were you meaning then?

He said by hiring Arnett he's not listening to our boosters, to which I pointed out that no, our boosters like Arnett. The rest of this is just elitedawgsbullshit*™

Sorry I had to spell out was is blatantly obvious to most.

[Really Clark?]

He said by hiring Arnett he's not listening to our boosters, to which I pointed out that no, our boosters like Arnett. The rest of this is just elitedawgsbullshit*?

Sorry I had to spell out was is blatantly obvious to most.

He also mentioned Bumphis being fired in the post YOU quoted. Whom our boosters also love. I wasn't the only one calling your post into question because it wasn't logical. But I appreciate you spelling out what you meant and doubling down on your logical fallacy.

ETA. All those boosters you think still love Arnett, he burnt a lot of those bridges and many of the ones involved with that HC tenure with Zach have lost a lot of influence.

[Coursesuper]

He also mentioned Bumphis being fired in the post YOU quoted. Whom our boosters also love. I wasn't the only one calling your post into question because it wasn't logical. But I appreciate you spelling out what you meant and doubling down on your logical fallacy.

So the boosters who love them some Arnett, who brought Bump back were still so involved after the debacle they helped create, that they told Lebby to fire Bump and bring back Arnett. Am I close here?

[Hot Rock]

Hiring Arnett one day and then firing Bumphis two days later is kind of funny.

Pretty clear that Jeff Lebby isn't listening to any boosters. Or he's just trying to piss everyone off. I don't know.

I don't have to admit that.


It's Lebby's job to evaluate coaches. What I have to admit is, "I don't know if Bumphis is a good coach or not." I don't believe anyone on this board knows if Bumphis is a good or bad coach.

Lebby seems to think he had a problem, he is addressing it. I will go with the guy getting paid millions whose job depends on getting this right over any poster on a message board.

[Really Clark?]

So the boosters who love them some Arnett, who brought Bump back were still so involved after the debacle they helped create, that they told Lebby to fire Bump and bring back Arnett. Am I close here?

That's exactly the way I read his post as well!

[Coursesuper]

That's exactly the way I read his post as well!

I need a drink....

[Really Clark?]

I need a drink....

A drink? I need more than 1

[Coursesuper]

A drink? I need more than 1

Touche'

[Todd4State]

I hate the Arnett hiring myself. It's extremely lazy. But he's liked by many of our boosters. So I have to ask, where are you getting your info? Because it's laughably wrong.

I get my info from Robbie Faulk.

[Pancho]

i think lebby fired bump all by himself

[Maroon Glasses]

I get my info from Robbie Faulk.

Me too!! Our guy is in the know.

[1eyedog]

del

[RisperDawg]

Me too!! Our guy is in the know.

Y'all are just too damn funny. Lol.

[Maroon Glasses]

Y'all are just too damn funny. Lol.

We'll put a word in for you.. get you in the know too!

[Todd4State]

Me too!! Our guy is in the know.

It's amazing how he does it while fighting USM fans on Twitter for some reason.

Embarrassing on so many levels.