Arnettt is a DAMN good DC

[cheewgumm]

People will be pissed because he was not great at head coach. I?d argue he got put into an impossible spot.


Regardless - fantastic DC.

Great hire

[TrapGame]

Yep, I am not mad about the hire at all.

Buy him some dudes out of the portal and let him coach.

[cheewgumm]

Yes sir

[Quaoarsking]

He may be, but bringing him back to work under the guy who replaced him and has arguably not performed than what it took for Arnett to get fired, seems like a recipe for disaster.

[DownwardDawg]

I'm with yall!! I was very surprised, but not the least bit disappointed. I'm separating the Arnette DC from the Arnette HC. Polar opposites.

[CadaverDawg]

Yep. Only our idiot fanbase would split on this hire and decide yet again not to pull the rope in the same direction. Ole Miss fans got the memo and rallied around a Pete Golding panic hire as head freaking coach, and we can't rally around a solid DC hire? Always our own worst enemy.

And we wonder why they are a media darling and PR machine

[Quaoarsking]

Yep. Only our idiot fanbase would split on this hire and decide yet again not to pull the rope in the same direction. Ole Miss fans got the memo and rallied around a Pete Golding panic hire as head freaking coach, and we can't rally around a solid DC hire? Always our own worst enemy.

And we wonder why they are a media darling and PR machine

I really don't think there is a single P5 fanbase that would "rally around" bringing back a head coach they fired 2 years ago as a coordinator, no matter what his reputation as a coordinator was. It's just a bit uncomfortable all around.

Add in the booster wars over Arnett and his mental health questions, and it just screams a bad hire.

[cheewgumm]

Yes this is a fantastic hire.

He?s great.

Forget about what happened.

He can coach defense. Not even a question.

[cheewgumm]

Right now we have

1) great OC - Lebby
2) great DC - Arnett

Lebby now just needs a little assistance in game mgt and we are good, coaching wise. We still need players.

[chef dixon]

He may be, but bringing him back to work under the guy who replaced him and has arguably not performed than what it took for Arnett to get fired, seems like a recipe for disaster.

You don't think Arnett is self aware of the situation if he's literally taking the DC position?

Seems to me like he knows where he is most comfortable. Also if we do well he ain't going to be trying to leave at the first chance

[msudawg1200]

We go from freaking Coleman "I've never called a defense at any level in my life" Hutzler who's defenses ranked 2024-126th and 2025-104th to Zach Arnett who's defenses ranked 2018-32nd, 2019-2nd, 2020-52nd, 2021-29th, and 2022-35th, yet our fanbase bitches about it.

[DownwardDawg]

Yep. Only our idiot fanbase would split on this hire and decide yet again not to pull the rope in the same direction. Ole Miss fans got the memo and rallied around a Pete Golding panic hire as head freaking coach, and we can't rally around a solid DC hire? Always our own worst enemy.

And we wonder why they are a media darling and PR machine

This is fact. This is why Ole Miss is seen as a much bigger program nationally than State. It's all sunshine, unicorns, and rainbows coming out of that place. Everything they do is absolutely fantastic and better than what everyone else does. We suck at pulling together and putting out a unified message.

[cheewgumm]

We go from freaking Coleman "I've never called a defense at any level in my life" Hutzler who's defenses ranked 2024-126th and 2025-104th to Zach Arnett who's defenses ranked 2018-32nd, 2019-2nd, 2020-52nd, 2021-29th, and 2022-35th, yet our fanbase bitches about it.

Ha

Yes

[DownwardDawg]

We go from freaking Coleman "I've never called a defense at any level in my life" Hutzler who's defenses ranked 2024-126th and 2025-104th to Zach Arnett who's defenses ranked 2018-32nd, 2019-2nd, 2020-52nd, 2021-29th, and 2022-35th, yet our fanbase bitches about it.

We can't have nice things.

[cheewgumm]

He?s also a great play caller on D.

Things a home run.

[KB21]

The man destroyed the program. How can you not be upset at this hire?

[cheewgumm]

He didn?t destroy the program.

That is nonsense.

You?ll be thrilled when we are top half the SEC in defense.

You are welcome

[msstate7]

The man destroyed the program. How can you not be upset at this hire?

No, whoever hired him destroyed the program. Arnett was damn good at his job, or he wouldn't have got the HC job. I forgive our DA decision makers though bc it was a totally unprecedented situation.

[Todd4State]

The man destroyed the program. How can you not be upset at this hire?

Deep down MSU fans don't like this and they're trying to get to a point where they're coping.

Let's see here we have:

1. We had no choice had to hire Arnett. (Sounds familiar doesn't it?)

2. The DC Arnett wasn't the lying POS that the head coach Arnett was.

3. When his defense failed it was Leach's fault.

4. When he couldn't recruit it was Emerick and Dudek's fault.

5. Hey! Haven't you made bad mistakes in your life like backstab your co-workers and lie to everyone about what you were going to do so that you could keep the team together? (I have not for full disclosure)

6. 2023's defense doesn't count.

7. Maybe it will work. (We all know how this turns out)

[Todd4State]

No, whoever hired him destroyed the program. Arnett was damn good at his job, or he wouldn't have got the HC job. I forgive our DA decision makers though bc it was a totally unprecedented situation.

So Lebby isn't a dumbass now? Glad you got on board.

[Todd4State]

He didn?t destroy the program.

That is nonsense.

You?ll be thrilled when we are top half the SEC in defense.

You are welcome

He only lost the complete respect of the team. On both sides of the ball. I'd definitely say he played a part.

[CadaverDawg]

He only lost the complete respect of the team. On both sides of the ball. I'd definitely say he played a part.

You weren't this angry about Hutzler. Think about that.

[CadaverDawg]

Deep down MSU fans don't like this and they're trying to get to a point where they're coping.

Let's see here we have:

1. We had no choice had to hire Arnett. (Sounds familiar doesn't it?)

2. The DC Arnett wasn't the lying POS that the head coach Arnett was.

3. When his defense failed it was Leach's fault.

4. When he couldn't recruit it was Emerick and Dudek's fault.

5. Hey! Haven't you made bad mistakes in your life like backstab your co-workers and lie to everyone about what you were going to do so that you could keep the team together? (I have not for full disclosure)

6. 2023's defense doesn't count.

7. Maybe it will work. (We all know how this turns out)

Dude, you really are wrong here and need to get out of your feelings. Majority of our fans actually like this hire. You're in the minority.

[Thick]

Deep down MSU fans don't like this and they're trying to get to a point where they're coping.

Let's see here we have:

1. We had no choice had to hire Arnett. (Sounds familiar doesn't it?)

2. The DC Arnett wasn't the lying POS that the head coach Arnett was.

3. When his defense failed it was Leach's fault.

4. When he couldn't recruit it was Emerick and Dudek's fault.

5. Hey! Haven't you made bad mistakes in your life like backstab your co-workers and lie to everyone about what you were going to do so that you could keep the team together? (I have not for full disclosure)

6. 2023's defense doesn't count.

7. Maybe it will work. (We all know how this turns out)

Not gonna lie, I read this, started laughing as I poured some vodka and tonic in combo with some limes and a splash of cran!

[Maroon Glasses]

No, whoever hired him destroyed the program. Arnett was damn good at his job, or he wouldn't have got the HC job. I forgive our DA decision makers though bc it was a totally unprecedented situation.

Agreed. The guy sucked as a HC but it's not his fault the administration asked him "Hey wanna be HC and make millions regardless if you win or lose?"

No coach with any sense of pride says no to that. He was willing to take on an impossible situation and paid the price. But our higher ups made the decision and ruined the program.

With that being said, Arnett made decisions and did things that didn't help the situation. At the same time, you're suppose to have people in place to control those situations from a PR standpoint. I mean Ole Miss got Kiffin a damn dog and his own Twitter account to change public perception.

[Todd4State]

You weren't this angry about Hutzler. Think about that.

At least Hutzler is a respectable human being. I was always wait and see on Hutzler and had questions about his experience as a DC. And I'm not upset that he is gone. I'm upset at who MSU got to replace him.

[msudawg1200]

You weren't this angry about Hutzler. Think about that.

Who was the worst DC and worst hire made by MSU football ever. Just a total embarrassment as a DC and hire. I almost got physically ill when Hutzler was announced. The dude's first time to call a freaking defense was in the SEC! Totally unacceptable for a major program. That hire was Troy, South Alabama, USM level.

[Todd4State]

Dude, you really are wrong here and need to get out of your feelings. Majority of our fans actually like this hire. You're in the minority.

This hire is so bad that most fans haven't even noticed that Corey Bell is staying.

[ArrowDawg]

People will be pissed because he was not great at head coach. I?d argue he got put into an impossible spot.


Regardless - fantastic DC.

Great hire

He was pretty good, with talent, which we don't have right now. Good luck with that.

[bigplayslay]

At least Hutzler is a respectable human being. I was always wait and see on Hutzler and had questions about his experience as a DC. And I'm not upset that he is gone. I'm upset at who MSU got to replace him.

Did this guy beat your ass or something? This is absurd. The slandering of him as a human being is just weird man

[Todd4State]

Not gonna lie, I read this, started laughing as I poured some vodka and tonic in combo with some limes and a splash of cran!

Pour one for me my friend!

[Maroon Glasses]

This hire is so bad that most fans haven't even noticed that Corey Bell is staying.

That worries me way more than Arnett man. I really don't understand why he wasn't let go right after the Egg Bowl.

[Todd4State]

Did this guy beat your ass or something? This is absurd. The slandering of him as a human being is just weird man

I enjoy winning football games and his actions greatly affected that. So I guess that falls into the category of "something".

Slander is when it isn't true by the way.

[bigplayslay]

I enjoy winning football games and his actions greatly affected that. So I guess that falls into the category of "something".

Slander is when it isn't true by the way.

So you know Zach personally then? Enlighten me

[cheewgumm]

We need to pin this thread

And revisit when 2026 defense ratings are final.

I know I am right.

[ArrowDawg]

We can't have nice things.
How so? We hired him. If he's the savior you think he is, then it doesn't matter what fans say.

[Todd4State]

That worries me way more than Arnett man. I really don't understand why he wasn't let go right after the Egg Bowl.

Good question. I think our recruiting staff is now worse than the first time Arnett was here. McBath was a good recruiter. Brock was meh as a recruiter. Phelps was better than burned out David Turner. We'll see who replaces
Turner though.

We didn't improve in this area and that's another major concern.

[msstate7]

How so? We hired him. If he's the savior you think he is, then it doesn't matter what fans say.

Savior is a little extreme. I guess if the bar is our DC the last 2 seasons, maybe your rhetoric isn't extreme

[Todd4State]

We need to pin this thread

And revisit when 2026 defense ratings are final.

I know I am right.

The question is did we hire the best DC we could have and we didn't. That is regardless of the rankings next year.

[Maroon Glasses]

He was pretty good, with talent, which we don't have right now. Good luck with that.

I don't remember many studs on defense under Arnett.

Forbes and Young come to mind. But we wasn't loaded with talent under him.

Which goes back to his lack of recruiting but also shows he can do it with less talent. If he has learned to recruit then that's even better. Actually don't even worry about recruiting... just pay them.

[ArrowDawg]

Deep down MSU fans don't like this and they're trying to get to a point where they're coping.

Let's see here we have:

1. We had no choice had to hire Arnett. (Sounds familiar doesn't it?)

2. The DC Arnett wasn't the lying POS that the head coach Arnett was.

3. When his defense failed it was Leach's fault.

4. When he couldn't recruit it was Emerick and Dudek's fault.

5. Hey! Haven't you made bad mistakes in your life like backstab your co-workers and lie to everyone about what you were going to do so that you could keep the team together? (I have not for full disclosure)

6. 2023's defense doesn't count.

7. Maybe it will work. (We all know how this turns out)

Exactly, but we've become pros as a fan base at winning the off-season in our minds. Every recruiting class that has a dead last average rating in the SEC and every coaching change we make means we're rolling and about to kick butt in football................until we play the games and find out yet again that our poverty program is still in fact a poverty program.

[cheewgumm]

How so? We hired him. If he's the savior you think he is, then it doesn't matter what fans say.

98% of the time

Our fans are brain dead and wrong.

[DownwardDawg]

How so? We hired him. If he's the savior you think he is, then it doesn't matter what fans say.

Lmao. I never said he's savior. You sound like a dumbass. I said we can't have nice things because our fans fight about everything. Try to keep up. Next time you might want to read the entire threads before replying.

[cheewgumm]

Deep down MSU fans don't like this and they're trying to get to a point where they're coping.

Let's see here we have:

1. We had no choice had to hire Arnett. (Sounds familiar doesn't it?)

2. The DC Arnett wasn't the lying POS that the head coach Arnett was.

3. When his defense failed it was Leach's fault.

4. When he couldn't recruit it was Emerick and Dudek's fault.

5. Hey! Haven't you made bad mistakes in your life like backstab your co-workers and lie to everyone about what you were going to do so that you could keep the team together? (I have not for full disclosure)

6. 2023's defense doesn't count.

7. Maybe it will work. (We all know how this turns out)

Wait

We have actual stats by year that he coached our D.

How are those?

[Maroon Glasses]

Exactly, but we've become pros as a fan base at winning the off-season in our minds. Every recruiting class that has a dead last average rating in the SEC and every coaching change we make means we're rolling and about to kick butt in football................until we play the games and find out yet again that our poverty program is still in fact a poverty program.

Dammmnnn. Hard to argue with this. I've been saying "it's gonna be different next year" for 35 years now.

[was21]

Yes this is a fantastic hire.

He?s great.

Forget about what happened.

He can coach defense. Not even a question.

Right. Sometimes it's best to learn to compartmentalize. This is one of those times. He wasn't comfortable as a HC and the dollar signs diverted him. But a very good DC.

[Quaoarsking]

This is fact. This is why Ole Miss is seen as a much bigger program nationally than State. It's all sunshine, unicorns, and rainbows coming out of that place. Everything they do is absolutely fantastic and better than what everyone else does. We suck at pulling together and putting out a unified message.

No, I think Ole Miss is seen as bigger than us because they are headed to the playoffs and have won 10 games in 4 of the last 5 seasons, while we're on our 3rd straight year of missing a bowl.

If Ole Miss beats Virginia or whoever in their first round playoff game, they'll have won as many games this year than we have in the last 3 years combined.

I hate it as much as we all do, but trying to say it's all just the mindset of their fans and not the on-field performance of the team does us no favors.

[Quaoarsking]

Wait

We have actual stats by year that he coached our D.

How are those?

Pretty good, but Lebby is no Leach, and Arnett has apparently had some kind of mental breakdown in the years since he was last an on-field coach, so who knows if he will replicate the old days in 2026.

[DownwardDawg]

No, I think Ole Miss is seen as bigger than us because they are headed to the playoffs and have won 10 games in 4 of the last 5 seasons, while we're on our 3rd straight year of missing a bowl.

If Ole Miss beats Virginia or whoever in their first round playoff game, they'll have won as many games this year than we have in the last 3 years combined.

I hate it as much as we all do, but trying to say it's all just the mindset of their fans and not the on-field performance of the team does us no favors.

Not disagreeing with you, but it started way before this year unfortunately.

[EdwardDrayton]

Yep. Only our idiot fanbase would split on this hire and decide yet again not to pull the rope in the same direction. Ole Miss fans got the memo and rallied around a Pete Golding panic hire as head freaking coach, and we can't rally around a solid DC hire? Always our own worst enemy.

And we wonder why they are a media darling and PR machine

This is such a tired bullshit narrative.

[msstate7]

This is the best I've felt about Lebby. Calling up arnett isn't something a guy that lets pride get in the way of winning does. Lebby swallowed his pride and made it happen bc he knows ZA can coach defense. Good job, coach

[Activated Alpha]

So far I have only seen Todd really upset about Arnett. Maybe there are more. But are you partly upset about the fact that Arnett was named DC and not some of the other 3 we heard because if Lebby doesn?t perform than your darling HC is fired?

[KB21]

I don't remember many studs on defense under Arnett.

Forbes and Young come to mind. But we wasn't loaded with talent under him.

Which goes back to his lack of recruiting but also shows he can do it with less talent. If he has learned to recruit then that's even better. Actually don't even worry about recruiting... just pay them.

Forbes, Emerson, Decam, Young, Errol, Bookie, Jett, Crumedy, Wheat, Pickering?.and he didn?t recruit a single one of them.

[bigplayslay]

So far I have only seen Todd really upset about Arnett. Maybe there are more. But are you partly upset about the fact that Arnett was named DC and not some of the other 3 we heard because if Lebby doesn?t perform than your darling HC is fired?

Todd knows him personally. He?s not a ?respectable human being?

[Quaoarsking]

This is the best I've felt about Lebby. Calling up arnett isn't something a guy that lets pride get in the way of winning does. Lebby swallowed his pride and made it happen bc he knows ZA can coach defense. Good job, coach

Interesting take that hadn't occurred to me. It seems like Arnett is the one swallowing his pride here.

[msstate7]

So far I have only seen Todd really upset about Arnett. Maybe there are more. But are you partly upset about the fact that Arnett was named DC and not some of the other 3 we heard because if Lebby doesn?t perform than your darling HC is fired?

Yeah, pickings for a guy entering the season on the hot seat aren't gonna be the best. Fortunately for Lebby and us, we found a guy that has actual recent success in the sec... and he had it at a school just like us (haha)

[msstate7]

Interesting take that hadn't occurred to me. It seems like Arnett is the one swallowing his pride here.

Both did.

[msstate7]

Forbes, Emerson, Decam, Young, Errol, Bookie, Jett, Crumedy, Wheat, Pickering?.and he didn?t recruit a single one of them.

Yeah, our recruiting sucked under leach. Yall championing Lebby's recruiting though, right?

[TStationDawg]

The man destroyed the program. How can you not be upset at this hire?

No he didn?t. This narrative needs to stop. Leach and his lack of recruiting ?killed? the program. Fact.

[Activated Alpha]

I will say I am happy with Lebby?s offense. I want him to succeed. Hopefully Arnett will improve the offense so we can win some games

[Dawgology]

The man destroyed the program. How can you not be upset at this hire?

Overreaction. I was hoping for a young up and comer but ZA is a good to very good DC. He didn?t ruin the program. We hired a coach who runs a very specific system that isn?t dependent on top end talent. It worked?for Leach?but that personnel would have worked for no one else in the nation. He was a one-of-a-kind. In the end, the MSU president made a poor, panic hire and ZA accepted because who wouldn?t? Honestly, from a w/l standpoint he?s been about as successful as Lebby has been. Anyway, it?s a decent hire and we will be better next year if we handle the transfer portal correctly.

[DEDawg]

He is a good DC but context always matters and I think it is a really bad idea to bring him back UNLESS he is doing something crazy like coaching for 200k and telling us let him use $2M DC salary on players

[paverdog]

A heck of a hire to me. The man is a defense worrier and knows how to create what causes problems for the offence. Most of all, he knows how to coach in the SEC. I can't understand why some people won't get on board with this..

[DEDawg]

Yep. Only our idiot fanbase would split on this hire and decide yet again not to pull the rope in the same direction. Ole Miss fans got the memo and rallied around a Pete Golding panic hire as head freaking coach, and we can't rally around a solid DC hire? Always our own worst enemy.

And we wonder why they are a media darling and PR machine

What does this even mean? Everyone rallied around Arnett the first time for HC. I even remember someone saying he would be our Saban which has my chuckling to myself now.

[msstate7]

What does this even mean? Everyone rallied around Arnett the first time for HC. I even remember someone saying he would be our Saban which has my chuckling to myself now.

Zach arnett 5-6 (.455) and Saban 15-17 (.469). Your friend made a great call... just the pro Saban.

[BuckyIsAB****]

He only lost the complete respect of the team. On both sides of the ball. I'd definitely say he played a part.

Totally and completely lost it. To the point of fighting after the UK game

[Todd4State]

Totally and completely lost it. To the point of fighting after the UK game

And when former players are a part of the funding of the program this makes this move even more questionable.

[KB21]

No he didn?t. This narrative needs to stop. Leach and his lack of recruiting ?killed? the program. Fact.

That?s the narrative the Leach haters want to use. We won 9 games and had a top 25 EPA/play offensively in Leach?s last year, but it?s his fault we are in this situation. Not the meathead who took over for him and decided to completely change the offense.

[Todd4State]

That?s the narrative the Leach haters want to use. We won 9 games and had a top 25 EPA/play offensively in Leach?s last year, but it?s his fault we are in this situation. Not the meathead who took over for him and decided to completely change the offense.

I may be surprised because I haven't cared to look but Lebby's offense probably scores quicker than Leach's too.

Hope Arnett's boys aren't too tired like they were under Leach!***********

[bigplayslay]

I may be surprised because I haven't cared to look but Lebby's offense probably scores quicker than Leach's too.

Hope Arnett's boys aren't too tired like they were under Leach!***********

I really hope we have a great season and you can?t even enjoy it cause you dislike the guy so much.

[KB21]

The only other coordinator spot he could have gotten was with App State.

[msstate7]

Lotta talk about arnett ruining the offense, so I'd like an update on the 2 studs he had to choose from as OC. Miller and spurrier jr, right?

[BankerDog]

And when former players are a part of the funding of the program this makes this move even more questionable.

Will Rogers and Kobe Jones and Bookie aren?t giving jackshit to our program nor have the funds to.

[BankerDog]

Lotta talk about arnett ruining the offense, so I'd like an update on the 2 studs he had to choose from as OC. Miller and spurrier jr, right?

Let?s revisit. SS JR, whom many wanted to be the HC, was fired at Tulsa. Analyst now. Barbay and Will Friend-forced upon Arnett (as was Bumphis and David Turner) we know how that turned out. Ah how could we forget Brad Peterson and Steve Campbell.

Also let?s not forget how our fans just had to have and get the likes of John Lewis, Ty Cooper, Stonka Burnside (I can keep going all night if naming these) of Madison and North MS kids who are overrated and needed to be paid high dollar signs and not contribute crap.

[Todd4State]

I really hope we have a great season and you can?t even enjoy it cause you dislike the guy so much.

I hope we have a great season because I want MSU to win. Even if we go 12-0 I still will have zero respect for Arnett.

[KOdawg1]

The man destroyed the program. How can you not be upset at this hire?
We're not cult-like psychopaths that actually care about Mississippi State over a coach or an offensive system

[KOdawg1]

I hope we have a great season because I want MSU to win. Even if we go 12-0 I still will have zero respect for Arnett.

Another cult member.

[BB30]

And when former players are a part of the funding of the program this makes this move even more questionable.

Arnett dmt want the hc job originally and basically came out and said he wasn't ready. We forced it on him with a panic hire and made the contract attractive enough to take it.

Arnett and his family absolutely loved it here and didn't want to leave. He will be fine being the DC and there won't be any internal issues between him and lebby. They are both pretty similar dudes who take accountability and just want to win. Arnett is a hell of a defensive coach and he will do great here as long as we provide the sec talent at all three levels.

Doesn't matter who the DC is if we don't get the dudes to play.

[Jarius]

That?s the narrative the Leach haters want to use. We won 9 games and had a top 25 EPA/play offensively in Leach?s last year, but it?s his fault we are in this situation. Not the meathead who took over for him and decided to completely change the offense.

John Cohen not raising money for NIL is what killed the program. It didn't matter who the coach was, we were going to fall off a cliff because Cohen didn't give a sh*t about any sport but baseball. It wasn't Leach or Arnett. Hell Arnett was in charge for 10 months. You can't kill a program that fast. Recruiting sucked because Cohen didn't do his job. Period. Lebby took over no talent because Cohen didn't raise money. That's it.

[RezDog7]

The man destroyed the program. How can you not be upset at this hire?

He destroyed the program in one year? Nah fam. Stop pretending MSU fired Leach to hire Arnett to fit your narrative.

[KB21]

Polishing the turd that is Zach Arnett.

[KOdawg1]

Polishing the turd that is Zach Arnett.
Show us on the doll where he touched you

[KB21]

All I have to do is point to three sec wins in three years and look at him as the biggest reason.

[DownwardDawg]

All I have to do is point to three sec wins in three years and look at him as the biggest reason.

Lebby has 1 in two years. And people love him for some reason.

[Homedawg]

Pretty good, but Lebby is no Leach, and Arnett has apparently had some kind of mental breakdown in the years since he was last an on-field coach, so who knows if he will replicate the old days in 2026.

What is this mental breakdown you speak of???

[Homedawg]

The question is did we hire the best DC we could have and we didn't. That is regardless of the rankings next year.

And who could we have hired?? I'll hang up and listen

[Homedawg]

And when former players are a part of the funding of the program this makes this move even more questionable.

This is comical. Right. The ones complaining about it give a grand total equal to the number of actual Santa Clauses.

[DownwardDawg]

This is comical. Right. The ones complaining about it give a grand total equal to the number of actual Santa Clauses.

Hahaha!!!!��

[Todd4State]

And who could we have hired?? I'll hang up and listen

We could have hired Rob Aurich from San Diego State, could have hired the guy from James Madison, or pretty much any other G5 coordinator. Don't give me "we could only hire the POS that ran our program into the ground" when that has never been the case ever before in our history.

[Homedawg]

We could have hired Rob Aurich from San Diego State, could have hired the guy from James Madison, or pretty much any other G5 coordinator. Don't give me "we could only hire the POS that ran our program into the ground" when that has never been the case ever before in our history.

Oh I'm sure we could have hired a g5 guy. Yet we hired a former p4 guy w a track record.

[Todd4State]

Oh I'm sure we could have hired a g5 guy. Yet we hired a former p4 guy w a track record.

Who hasn't coached in two years if you're counting the time he was a "head coach".


In the meantime we have two analysts who have DC experience and when Brock joins that will be two more guys including Barnes who have DC experience.

[maroonmania]

We could have hired Rob Aurich from San Diego State, could have hired the guy from James Madison, or pretty much any other G5 coordinator. Don't give me "we could only hire the POS that ran our program into the ground" when that has never been the case ever before in our history.

No, we don't do that. I guess we either hire guys that need OJT because they have never been in that coaching position before OR we just recycle coaches.

[Todd4State]

No, we don't do that. I guess we either hire guys that need OJT because they have never been in that coaching position before OR we just recycle coaches.

And the thing is as far as DC's go we have had good success hiring DC's from the G5 level. I think almost all of them were successful at MSU if not all. Manny Diaz, Geoff Collins, Arnett...it has worked well for us.

[Homedawg]

Who hasn't coached in two years if you're counting the time he was a "head coach".


In the meantime we have two analysts who have DC experience and when Brock joins that will be two more guys including Barnes who have DC experience.

Guess he forgot how while working at ole miss and fsu. You're grasping g for straws due to your hate. It's ok.

[Todd4State]

Guess he forgot how while working at ole miss and fsu. You're grasping g for straws due to your hate. It's ok.

We're about to find out aren't we? But the fact of the matter is outside of a short time during spring ball he has not coached defense in two years.

I'm happy for you that your friend is back even though he doesn't deserve it and shouldn't have been hired back.

[Cowbell]

He was pretty good, with talent, which we don't have right now. Good luck with that.

The man turned Jett Johnson into a top SEC linebacker. Jett had about zero natural D1 talent

[Cowbell]

And the thing is as far as DC's go we have had good success hiring DC's from the G5 level. I think almost all of them were successful at MSU if not all. Manny Diaz, Geoff Collins, Arnett...it has worked well for us.

Arnett worked well for us? Glad to see you are coming around Todd

[Todd4State]

Arnett worked well for us? Glad to see you are coming around Todd

And then he became the head coach.

[KOdawg1]

And then he became the head coach.

Good thing we're not hiring him to be our head coach.