Georgia suing player over NIL transfer

[bulldawg28]

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/47212583/georgia-seeks-390k-de-damon-wilson-transfer-damages


He's being sued over the fact he's performed better at Missouri as a transfer than he did while playing 2 years at Georgia. Kirby is ruthless.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I mean we knew this was coming. I'll be honest, if UGA actually wins this case, I think you will start seeing serious guardrails put into these NIL deals and maybe some form of governance coming back to college athletics.

[Brobi-wan]

I actually love to see this.

[starkvegasdawg]

I'm no lawyer, but couldn't the player just claim he received better coaching and mentoring at Missouri which allowed him to perform better? Not sure how you prove he was intentionally underperforming.

[HancockCountyDog]

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/47212583/georgia-seeks-390k-de-damon-wilson-transfer-damages


He's being sued over the fact he's performed better at Missouri as a transfer than he did while playing 2 years at Georgia. Kirby is ruthless.

That is nuts. I'm not a lawyer, but why would a school do this. I mean every other school in the country should say "Don't sign with UGA, they will eventually sue you for their money back"

After reading the article, it doesn't sound like his performance had anything to do with the fact that he got sued.

[Political Hack]

The whole system is in shambles. It's financially unsustainable. Egomaniacal boosters aren't going to continue to pay millions into something that gives them no financial return.

[bulldawg28]

I actually love to see this.

Really? What part do you like about it?

[bulldawg28]

That is nuts. I'm not a lawyer, but why would a school do this. I mean every other school in the country should say "Don't sign with UGA, they will eventually sue you for their money back"

After reading the article, it doesn't sound like his performance had anything to do with the fact that he got sued.

I would definitely use this against Georgia if I were coaching & recruiting against them.

[Political Hack]

Really? What part do you like about it?

Millionaires controlling disadvantaged populations. It's all the rage. You should look into it.

[Dawgface]

If he broke his contract he should be sued. I admit I didn’t read the whole article. I wonder how long it will be before we hear about the IRS going after some that haven’t filed a tax return?

[Maverick91]

I actually love to see this.

I do as well. Something has to give

[bulldawg28]

Millionaires controlling disadvantaged populations. It's all the rage. You should look into it.

I should look into it?

[Maverick91]

Millionaires controlling disadvantaged populations. It's all the rage. You should look into it.

Are you saying student athletes are a disadvantaged population? Or are you saying the schools are at a disadvantage from the now millionaire players?

[R2Dawg]

The whole system is in shambles. It's financially unsustainable. Egomaniacal boosters aren't going to continue to pay millions into something that gives them no financial return.

What I been telling everyone. Just cause you spend money don't mean you get a return. Every team has real bad investments and you right the big money guys are going to keep throwing money down the drain.

A market correction will come.

[EdwardDrayton]

<sigh> Remember when college sports were uncomplicated and fun.

[Homedawg]

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/47212583/georgia-seeks-390k-de-damon-wilson-transfer-damages


He's being sued over the fact he's performed better at Missouri as a transfer than he did while playing 2 years at Georgia. Kirby is ruthless.

That's not why they are suing. They are suing bc he took money up front and didn't live out his contract and bolted.

[Homedawg]

If he broke his contract he should be sued. I admit I didn’t read the whole article. I wonder how long it will be before we hear about the IRS going after some that haven’t filed a tax return?

This is the reason he's being sued.

[Activated Alpha]

Really? What part do you like about it?

Yes, we love to see it. People who make a shit ton of money on a deal they don't honor should be held accountable. Don't care if they're 18 year old athletes or 45 year old head coaches.

[chef dixon]

This is how contracts work.

The real question is who was counseling this kid to be so cavalier about leaving 2 weeks after signing?

The real world lack of awareness is crazy.

[Political Hack]

Are you saying student athletes are a disadvantaged population? Or are you saying the schools are at a disadvantage from the now millionaire players?

A large percentage of the most talented high school athletes in the country come from disadvantages populations. But not always. I dont mean this in a mean way towards the kid, but I actually hope he did something other than "just didn't perform well." If coaches start suing over performance, contracts are basically worth nothing. They may as well go to a 'dollar per yard' scheme at that point.

[mparkerfd20]

It's a frivolous suit unfortunately that will be laughed out of the courtroom. They can only show damages of maybe half of the $30k he received. No way they can prove $390k. Judge is gonna laugh them out of the courtroom and then UGA gonna get hit with a countersuit of defamation. I love it!

[Coach34]

Millionaires controlling disadvantaged populations. It's all the rage. You should look into it.

fantastic response

[bulldawg28]

That's not why they are suing. They are suing bc he took money up front and didn't live out his contract and bolted.

He never received the amount sued for. He was paid $30k and sued for $300k. How do you measure value without having incentives and structure built into an NIL.

[bulldawg28]

It's a frivolous suit unfortunately that will be laughed out of the courtroom. They can only show damages of maybe half of the $30k he received. No way they can prove $390k. Judge is gonna laugh them out of the courtroom and then UGA gonna get hit with a countersuit of defamation. I love it!

The kid should definitely counter, let's make it interesting!

[bulldawg28]

A large percentage of the most talented high school athletes in the country come from disadvantages populations. But not always. I dont mean this in a mean way towards the kid, but I actually hope he did something other than "just didn't perform well." If coaches start suing over performance, contracts are basically worth nothing. They may as well go to a 'dollar per yard' scheme at that point.

I think this is a great starting point for NIL contracts. More structure, incentives, and caps needed for unproven players.

[The Federalist Engineer]

I'm no lawyer, but couldn't the player just claim he received better coaching and mentoring at Missouri which allowed him to perform better? Not sure how you prove he was intentionally underperforming.

It's not about performance, he signed with Liquidated Damages. He only got $30K from UGA, but could now owe $390k.

"Many schools and collectives have started to include liquidated damages clauses in their contracts with athletes to protect their investment in players and deter transfers. Georgia is one of the first programs to publicly try to enforce the clause by filing suit against a player."

What is shocking is the UGA is a purchasing school. If all NIL deals have liquidated damages, this would end the Portal. Unless the new schools start paying the damages.

I wonder if MSU is owed by DVB with liquidated damages. Let's get 2M from DVB and use it on a LHP and a Power SS for 2027.

[The Federalist Engineer]

A large percentage of the most talented high school athletes in the country come from disadvantages populations. But not always. I dont mean this in a mean way towards the kid, but I actually hope he did something other than "just didn't perform well." If coaches start suing over performance, contracts are basically worth nothing. They may as well go to a 'dollar per yard' scheme at that point.

I would say he is an Advantaged person. Most people are not 6-5 250lbs and get free tuition for playing kid-games. Football size is an unearned gift the same as being born to Jensen Hwang. Most students have to work 20 to 40 hours to only partially-pay for tuition and meals. Plus the regular kids have to be chiseled for meal plans, activities fees, and let the football players use the good parking spots.

Mizzou should pay the Liquidated Damages for the player. But they are not bound to pay, since the individual kid is the contract signer with UGA.

[Brobi-wan]

Really? What part do you like about it?

The fact that this is a case that can lead to structure in NIL? Pay for play is not the same as NIL. A true NIL system does not exist.

There should be performance incentives to NIL. You don?t perform, you aren?t compensated to the fullest extent. That?s how it works with every system. Why should it be different? It should also not be called NIL. It?s essentially a contract that these kids are constantly trying to renegotiate. I don?t hold it against them for trying to squeeze the most money out of the thing. This system still needs rails. - players should 100% be protected in the case of injury. But if you underperform I don?t see why you should get paid the entire thing. It?s a job now. If I sucked at mine I would be fired and not given my yearly salary.

I agree with Mullen that the whole system needs to be blown up and started from scratch. Maybe there?s more details to this I am unaware of. I have not looked into it at all outside of what has been commented on this board. I don?t think common sense changes to this are a bad thing. No court is going to make that kid pay that money back anyways, but it might initiate some positive discussions.

[Brobi-wan]

I would say he is an Advantaged person. Most people are not 6-5 250lbs and get free tuition for playing kid-games. Football size is an unearned gift the same as being born to Jensen Hwang. Most students have to work 20 to 40 hours to only partially-pay for tuition and meals. Plus the regular kids have to be chiseled for meal plans, activities fees, and let the football players use the good parking spots.

Mizzou should pay the Liquidated Damages for the player. But they are not bound to pay, since the individual kid is the contract signer with UGA.

I believe OP is referencing socio economic factors. Not the physical attributes