Commitment thread? If not then post them here.

[Op4isabitch]

n/t??..

[Cowbell]

Expecting more good news today

[Coursesuper]

Today is signing day.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Expecting more good news today

Tennessee is still pretty confident about White and Albert but I know that confidence has really waned in the last 72 hours. Our staff has put the blitz on for both of those guys. I have said all along that I thought White would end up at State, I wavered a bit in October on that but still have been cautiously optimistic. I have always believed that Dareon Albert wanted to go out of state, but he would be a massive pull for Lebby and Co. I mean just the fact that we are in it this late with them tells you how good of a recruiter Lebby and Hutzler both are. The fact that we were 5-7 and barely had a top 50 class 7 days ago and now we are on the precipice of a top 15 class is amazing.

[KB21]

Cotton is in. There were some fans out there worried about him since Alabama was sniffing.

He?s listed as a TE. I don?t know how fast he is, but I wouldn?t pigeon hole him as a TE yet. I can remember when Chris Bell got pigeon holed as a TE coming out of Greeneville a few years ago.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Zayion Cotton is in. Huge hold for the staff. Bama and OM both were on him. I think Bama was trying to get him to hold off committing anywhere.

I think he's a posession WR at the next level. He reminds me a little of De'Runnya if he had played football before his senior year of HS.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Hearing positive stuff on Keymian Henderson, WR out of Carthage, TX. I think we're going to win that battle. Kind of came on late and really stole him from under TCU's nose.

But hey, he still gets to play for Kendall next year..........

[KB21]

Jaedon Hill is in. I will never understand how he?s not a 4 star.

[KB21]

Looks like we are getting good news on Micah Nickerson.

[confucius say]

White is a no go from everything I've heard the last 18 hours. Got close though.

Bama wants Cooley. Will see.
Let's get Nickerson and see what happens with Matthews. OM is trying to push him.

[confucius say]

Looks like we are getting good news on Micah Nickerson.

😎

[Op4isabitch]

Great stuff guys. Keep em coming.

[KB21]

No offense to Evans, Thompson, or Coleman last year, but I like getting these bigger WRs that can also run.

Cotton is a 6?5? target. Henderson is a 6?4? target. Shepherd from last years class is 6?4?.

It will be nice to have a big target on those dep choice routes in this offense.

[ZedFedder]

Shout out to all you guys for providing information.

[Dawgface]

How many high school guys do we sign in this new era? I know the portal gives us the more immediate help.

[KB21]

I?m supervising residents this AM, so I have down time.

[Thick]

No offense to Evans, Thompson, or Coleman last year, but I like getting these bigger WRs that can also run.

Cotton is a 6?5? target. Henderson is a 6?4? target. Shepherd from last years class is 6?4?.

It will be nice to have a big target on those dep choice routes in this offense.

I?m with you!

[ZedFedder]

Steve with a 9/10 CB prediction that Cooley goes to Bama.

[Coursesuper]

How many high school guys do we sign in this new era? I know the portal gives us the more immediate help.

We have 27 committed.

[msstate7]

No offense to Evans, Thompson, or Coleman last year, but I like getting these bigger WRs that can also run.

Cotton is a 6?5? target. Henderson is a 6?4? target. Shepherd from last years class is 6?4?.

It will be nice to have a big target on those dep choice routes in this offense.

Need different body types. I want a mix of all.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Steve with a 9/10 CB prediction that Cooley goes to Bama.

Yea rumor is that Byron Young go in his ear late on that one.

[KB21]

Need different body types. I want a mix of all.

Cotton could be a guy that can play a big slot role, and you can look like both 11 personnel and 12 personnel with him. I like the TE Hutchinson as well.

[KB21]

Noil is in.

[KB21]

Anyone hearing anything on if we are making a push for Darby?

[KB21]

Kaleb Morris is in. He kind of blew up some this year.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Anyone hearing anything on if we are making a push for Darby?

I am not. Some of our fans on the On3 board were pushing for it yesterday but I have not heard anything. I know there is conversation, but nothing more than that right now.

[confucius say]

Steve with a 9/10 CB prediction that Cooley goes to Bama.

That's where I think he lands. LSU is out. I think we come in second and OM third.

Matthews is touch and go. I don't think we get him, but not closing the door.

[BlackSailsDawg]

I am not. Some of our fans on the On3 board were pushing for it yesterday but I have not heard anything. I know there is conversation, but nothing more than that right now.

Womack?

[StarkVegasSteve]

That's where I think he lands. LSU is out. I think we come in second and OM third.

Matthews is touch and go. I don't think we get him, but not closing the door.

It is going to take a ton of money and I don’t think we can spend a ton of money on kid coming off ACL surgery.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Womack?

No. Darby the LSU commit who decommitted yesterday

[confucius say]

It is going to take a ton of money and I don’t think we can spend a ton of money on kid coming off ACL surgery.

Agree. I don't think anybody is going to pay him what he wants though.

[KB21]

Colin Klein to Kansas State. Chris Klieman is retiring.

[msstate7]

Colin Klein to Kansas State. Chris Klieman is retiring.

Staying for playoffs?

[BlackSailsDawg]

No. Darby the LSU commit who decommitted yesterday

I should have been clearer. Has he signed yet?

[StarkVegasSteve]

I should have been clearer. Has he signed yet?

Not to my knowledge. I do not know what time he is signing though

[StarkVegasSteve]

Colin Klein to Kansas State. Chris Klieman is retiring.

This feels like a forced retirement. He is only 58.

[KB21]

This feels like a forced retirement. He is only 58.

Maybe health related.

[msstate7]

This feels like a forced retirement. He is only 58.

If so, I'd be very interested if Lebby doesn't work out.

[ZedFedder]

This feels like a forced retirement. He is only 58.

Coming from the FCS level, it would not shock me if he just does not want to deal with NIL in this era. He just does not seem like a dude who wants to put up with it.

[KB21]

South Florida is hiring Brian Hartline as head coach.

[BlackSailsDawg]

Micah Nickerson is a dawg

[gtowndawg]

I'm glad we seem to be trending better, moving up in the rankings, but is it fools gold? We have a 5 star (awesome) but one 4 star? Everything else is just 3 stars. I mean even South Carolina has nine 4 stars. Point being, our average player signed, 95% of the class, is (ranking wise) just that, average.

[BlackSailsDawg]

Womack supposedly signs at 10:30

[KB21]

Heck yeah! We evaluated him and had him well before he blew up. Our process is good, and with the influx of funds, should have the opportunity to get even better.

[bigplayslay]

Womack supposedly signs at 10:30

Any actual smoke to Auburn making a late push?

[BlackSailsDawg]

I'm glad we seem to be trending better, moving up in the rankings, but is it fools gold? We have a 5 star (awesome) but one 4 star? Everything else is just 3 stars. I mean even South Carolina has nine 4 stars. Point being, our average player signed, 95% of the class, is (ranking wise) just that, average.

Point is this is the making of a great recruiting season. We have 1 5 star and 2 4 stars so far. Plus the bulk of our money will go to the portal.

[BlackSailsDawg]

Any actual smoke to Auburn making a late push?

Just looked at Auburn 247. The staffer there expects him to stick with us.

[KB21]

I hate typing on my phone with these big ass thumbs.

[BlackSailsDawg]

The official official

https://x.com/HailStateFB/status/1996235653713940932

[DEDawg]

The official official

https://x.com/HailStateFB/status/1996235653713940932

Cool so 1 4 star and 1 5 star in this class. Hope we pull a few more.

[Activated Alpha]

I?m supervising residents this AM, so I have down time.

Sending you a PM

[gtowndawg]

Point is this is the making of a great recruiting season. We have 1 5 star and 2 4 stars so far. Plus the bulk of our money will go to the portal.

Trending better no doubt, but we've had classes where we signed double digit 4 stars. Hopefully we can flip someone else today. And yeah, portal is where it's going to count for next season.

[BlackSailsDawg]

Cool so 1 4 star and 1 5 star in this class. Hope we pull a few more.


No.

1 five star
2 four stars

[Coach34]

I hate typing on my phone with these big ass thumbs.

Hope you're not a proctologist

[Coach34]

Trending better no doubt, but we've had classes where we signed double digit 4 stars. .

not in the NIL Era

[basedog]

Loved what i read about the QB McWhorter from Ga said.

[gtowndawg]

Hope you're not a proctologist

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[BlackSailsDawg]

Trending better no doubt, but we've had classes where we signed double digit 4 stars. Hopefully we can flip someone else today. And yeah, portal is where it's going to count for next season.

The portal will be where we live from here out. MS ST fans need to adjust to the reality of NIL. We will take the best we can get out of HS and focus on ready players while building the rookies.

[gtowndawg]

Speaking of rankings, how can Rivals have any real data on the average NIL deal per player as seen here (https://www.on3.com/rivals/rankings/industry-team/football/2026/)

[BlackSailsDawg]

not in the NIL Era

Exactly. It's a different approach now. Look at the fall of Clemson. Last year the 28th ranked class and the 83rd in transfer. Year before, zero from the portal. Dabo woke up!

[TrapGame]

The portal will be where we live from here out. MS ST fans need to adjust to the reality of NIL. We will take the best we can get out of HS and focus on ready players while building the rookies.

Exactly.

One of the reasons Florida lost Kiffin is they refused to let him run the program like an NFL team.

Even Florida with all their money hasn't figured this thing out yet.

[msstate7]

Once you get past 4 and 5-stars, should you even bother much with HS recruits? Seems the better play is invest in a more known commodity (transfers)

[KB21]

Sending you a PM

Replied

[Coursesuper]

Once you get past 4 and 5-stars, should you even bother much with HS recruits? Seems the better play is invest in a more known commodity (transfers)

Because the people evaluating for the sites are not professionals. Ahamd Hardy types are out there that get totally missed.

[confucius say]

Once you get past 4 and 5-stars, should you even bother much with HS recruits? Seems the better play is invest in a more known commodity (transfers)

3 star HS guys, even if just for depth, are much cheaper than what you have to pay in the portal.

And you have some 3 star guys that turn into studs.

[gtowndawg]

Because the people evaluating for the sites are not professionals. Ahamd Hardy types are out there that get totally missed.

With all due respect, we shake out nearly every year in the top 30 in America for recruting and that's hasn't exactly panned out for us in a while. Maybe we're the ones not great at evaluating?

[msstate7]

Because the people evaluating for the sites are not professionals. Ahamd Hardy types are out there that get totally missed.

And I get that, but if 24/27 (no idea on this exact number) are less than 4 star, seems the chances of you being wrong are more than them being wrong.

I honestly don't know the correct path in this new era, but anyone that needs developing seems risky. If they don't play right away, they'll leave, and that money was wasted.

[msstate7]

I think if I were in charge, I would take my 18 best HS signees, and use the rest of my resources on transfers/retaining

[bigplayslay]

Tico Crittendon comitted -- flip from FSU

[BlackSailsDawg]

With all due respect, we shake out nearly every year in the top 30 in America for recruting and that's hasn't exactly panned out for us in a while. Maybe we're the ones not great at evaluating?

I think the issue has been the fact that the bamas of the world could horde the players. Now they have to live with less talent, meaning not as deep. That's why we are seeing all teams beatable. So while we will remain in that top 30 from JUCO/HS, we have to live in the top 15 in portal finds.

This gives MSU a ready and a steady team. The era of every 4 to 5 years if we play our cards right (train up some younger players while having a sr vet team) is truly over.

[BlackSailsDawg]

Tico Crittendon comitted -- flip from FSU

That's big

[TrapGame]

Tico Crittendon comitted -- flip from FSU

HUGE.

[BlackSailsDawg]

Now ranked 28th in the nation.

[Westdawg]

Tico Crittendon comitted -- flip from FSU

That?s a big fella on DL!!

[confucius say]

With all due respect, we shake out nearly every year in the top 30 in America for recruting and that's hasn't exactly panned out for us in a while. Maybe we're the ones not great at evaluating?

We're usually a top 30 team in America until leach died and things went to hell.
Even when not ranked in top 30 due to losses from a tough schedule, we are usually a top 30 team. Cringe at least.
Heck we are probably top 35 now. The analytics, per Parker Fleming, say the "average" team would have less than 5 wins against our schedule. So we're above average at least.

[BlackSailsDawg]

We're usually a top 30 team in America until leach died and things went to hell.
Even when not ranked in top 30 due to losses from a tough schedule, we are usually a top 30 team. Cringe at least.
Heck we are probably top 35 now. The analytics, per Parker Fleming, say the "average" team would have less than 5 wins against our schedule. So we're above average at least.

So our collective penis is bigger than most????

[KB21]

Tico Crittenden is in! That?s a big one.

[Coursesuper]

Micah Nickerson is a dawg

That is a good pick up size that can run for the LB group. We lack speed there and it shows.

[BlackSailsDawg]

I don't care about this, but I know some do. MS ST is currently ranked 28th, and Ole Miss is ranked 26th.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I don't care about this, but I know some do. MS ST is currently ranked 28th, and Ole Miss is ranked 26th.

For reference, we were 48th like 7 days ago.

[Maroon Glasses]

I don't care about this, but I know some do. MS ST is currently ranked 28th, and Ole Miss is ranked 26th.

I care. That's huge considering the gap between us lately.

Now, let's beat them. And even if we don't.. for us to be close is a great job by Lebby and co. to me. Especially considering where this class was a few days ago.

[BlackSailsDawg]

For reference, we were 48th like 7 days ago.

And once Darby is in that will move us to 22 in the nation

[KB21]

I forgot that we will get McClendon back next year.

[gtowndawg]

I care. That's huge considering the gap between us lately.

Now, let's beat them. And even if we don't.. for us to be close is a great job by Lebby and co. to me. Especially considering where this class was a few days ago.

It's bragging rights, and that counts for something as far as I'm concerned. More importantly, if our average player (88 for example) is better than theirs, that really means something. In other words I don't want to move up just because we signed more than others, I want to move up because we legit got better players!

edited: their average player ranking is still ahead by a good bit. 89 v 87 for us. Doesn't sound like much, but it's a pretty solid difference. At least on the 24/7 ranking that is.

[StarkVegasSteve]

And once Darby is in that will move us to 22 in the nation

We're not getting Darby. I would expect Miami for that one

[BlackSailsDawg]

We're not getting Darby. I would expect Miami for that one

We will get him.

[confucius say]

I forgot that we will get McClendon back next year.

And Whitson

[msstate7]

And Whitson

Really? Wow

[TrapGame]

And Whitson

I thought he was done. He getting medical redshirt?

[KB21]

And Whitson

Yeah. Whitson, Dink, Bam Bam, Burroughs, McClendon, Crittenden?.thats not that bad.

[confucius say]

I thought he was done. He getting medical redshirt?

We feel good that he will.

[TrapGame]

We feel good that he will.

NICE!

[confucius say]

Yeah. Whitson, Dink, Bam Bam, Burroughs, McClendon, Crittenden?.thats not that bad.

Have to get an edge rusher.

[Cowbell]

Once you get past 4 and 5-stars, should you even bother much with HS recruits? Seems the better play is invest in a more known commodity (transfers)

This is where I'm at. I would rather have a back up player with experience than one out of high school.

[KB21]

Have to get an edge rusher.

Nickerson.

I was focusing more on the ones that will be playing down there. We want to run a lot of 4i-0-4i stuff up front, and we are starting to collect the body types for that.

[KB21]

Keymian Henderson and Zion Crumpton are in.

[Cowbell]

This is a solid thread guys. Just want you guys know I appreciate all the input here. Appreciate all the optimism. It's good change.

[KB21]

Henderson was being recruited to play for Kendal Briles at TCU. He may still get to play for him. ;)

[bigplayslay]

Henderson was being recruited to play for Kendal Briles at TCU. He may still get to play for him. ;)

do not get my hopes up !

[KB21]

Taylor is in.

[gtowndawg]

Henderson was being recruited to play for Kendal Briles at TCU. He may still get to play for him. ;)

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[BlackSailsDawg]

Cam'Ron Thompson has been processed

[ZedFedder]

Cam'Ron Thompson has been processed

Room for Cooley?

[BlackSailsDawg]

Womack is at 10:30 right?

[Tater]

We are now ahead of the Rebs on 247 which is just a hilarious concept for how bleak things looked a few weeks ago.

[confucius say]

Nickerson.

I was focusing more on the ones that will be playing down there. We want to run a lot of 4i-0-4i stuff up front, and we are starting to collect the body types for that.

I'd be surprised if Nickerson was ready day 1

[BlackSailsDawg]

We are now ahead of the Rebs on 247 which is just a hilarious concept for how bleak things looked a few weeks ago.

NICE!!!

[KB21]

I'd be surprised if Nickerson was ready day 1

Oh. Probably not. I won?t say definitely, but probably. I will say we definitely need to add 2-3 edges through the portal.

[confucius say]

Class is now at 25

[BlackSailsDawg]

I got work to do... Need Womack and Darby to announce already

[Brobi-wan]

We are now ahead of the Rebs on 247 which is just a hilarious concept for how bleak things looked a few weeks ago.

My scUM FB friend was just posting last night about how their class was better than ours. Lol. Somehow he graduated from State and still loves them.

[BlackSailsDawg]

Ole Miss Drops to 31.

Auburn is 60th
UK 61st
Ark is 69th

[gtowndawg]

We are now ahead of the Rebs on 247 which is just a hilarious concept for how bleak things looked a few weeks ago.

Guys, I'm all about bragging, and I'm sorry to be a debby downer but we have TWICE as many commits/signees as Ole Miss as of now. The more you sign the more points you get and the more you move up in rankings. I'm happy with the class compared to last week but we need to remember that's how this game works.

[KB21]

Womack is IN

[BlackSailsDawg]

Guys, I'm all about bragging, and I'm sorry to be a debby downer but we have TWICE as many commits/signees as Ole Miss as of now. The more you sign the more points you get and the more you move up in rankings. I'm happy with the class compared to last week but we need to remember that's how this game works.

It's based off average.

[msstate7]

Womack is IN

Huge

[bigplayslay]

Guys, I'm all about bragging, and I'm sorry to be a debby downer but we have TWICE as many commits/signees as Ole Miss as of now. The more you sign the more points you get and the more you move up in rankings. I'm happy with the class compared to last week but we need to remember that's how this game works.

ok..? so does Ohio State, USC, Georgia, and Miami

[gtowndawg]

It's based off average.

It's not, it's based off points on 24/7. Their average player is higher ranked than our average player. We have a total of 225 points they have a total if 219 points as of now. LSU has the highest average player rating in the country at 93.61 but the 12th overall class because of size.

[confucius say]

Guys, I'm all about bragging, and I'm sorry to be a debby downer but we have TWICE as many commits/signees as Ole Miss as of now. The more you sign the more points you get and the more you move up in rankings. I'm happy with the class compared to last week but we need to remember that's how this game works.

You only get credit for the top 25 recruits you sign. At least that's what Steve said last year.
So it cuts off at 25.

[gtowndawg]

ok..? so does Ohio State, USC, Georgia, and Miami

Noboy is comparing our class to them. Posters are comparing our class to Ole Miss but that's a trap I encourage people not to fall into because it can easily be thrown back in our faces. Again, I'm happy with the class, it's fine.

[BlackSailsDawg]

Noboy is comparing our class to them. Posters are comparing our class to Ole Miss but that's a trap I encourage people not to fall into because it can easily be thrown back in our faces. Again, I'm happy with the class, it's fine.

Sweet Jesus................. Bless your heart

[gtowndawg]

You only get credit for the top 25 recruits you sign. At least that's what Steve said last year.
So it cuts off at 25.

That's correct and I imagine there's going to be a few turned away today as we signed some flips so it will even out. But once Ole Miss gets credit for their full 25 compared to us, more than likely they will pass us. Again, that's fine, it will be really close, it's a win for us after the seasons we've had. But I wouldn't go out and start bragging about this to your Ole Miss neighbor until BOTH signing days are complete!

[gtowndawg]

Sweet Jesus................. Bless your heart

I speak in facts friend, not emotions.

[BlackSailsDawg]

I speak in facts friend, not emotions.

No you speak foolishly and negatively.

But you do you. You can not bring me down to your level.

[Coursesuper]

Noboy is comparing our class to them. Posters are comparing our class to Ole Miss but that's a trap I encourage people not to fall into because it can easily be thrown back in our faces. Again, I'm happy with the class, it's fine.

Who the 17 cares? Jesus, y'all are going to 17 up another thread arguing over stupid points that don't matter. We have had a pretty decent day getting bodies that we need and pulling a few we didn't expect. Staff has worked hard for this and we need players no matter where they come from. If they can play the will make it if not they will get processed, that's the game now. We have more $$ than we ever have lets watch this shake out.

[TrapGame]

I speak in facts friend, not emotions.

Your facts need a Midol.

[confucius say]

That's correct and I imagine there's going to be a few turned away today as we signed some flips so it will even out. But once Ole Miss gets credit for their full 25 compared to us, more than likely they will pass us. Again, that's fine, it will be really close, it's a win for us after the seasons we've had. But I wouldn't go out and start bragging about this to your Ole Miss neighbor until BOTH signing days are complete!

They don't have 25 because they've had several decommit since Sunday. On both sides of the ball. Despite my being told all the recruits love Pete and want to play for him.

[RisperDawg]

That's correct and I imagine there's going to be a few turned away today as we signed some flips so it will even out. But once Ole Miss gets credit for their full 25 compared to us, more than likely they will pass us. Again, that's fine, it will be really close, it's a win for us after the seasons we've had. But I wouldn't go out and start bragging about this to your Ole Miss neighbor until BOTH signing days are complete!

I live in AL next to a UGA fan. I doubt I do too much bragging. Ha.

Great class for us though.

[DownwardDawg]

I speak in facts friend, not emotions.

Enjoy the day!!!! We're kicking ass. Kiffin leaving is the gift that keeps on giving!!!

[gtowndawg]

Your facts need a Midol.

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[KB21]

Cooley has pushed his signing to Friday.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Just spoke to a few TCU buddies. They are uhh?..not happy to say the least about missing Henderson. I had 4 texts asking how the hell we stole him from them. My response, $EC

[gtowndawg]

They don't have 25 because they've had several decommit since Sunday. On both sides of the ball. Despite my being told all the recruits love Pete and want to play for him.

No doubt, huge for helping us get back in the game for sure.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I will say this has been an UNREAL close by Lebby and Co. Flipping Womack, flipping Nickerson, stealing Crittenden and Henderson from P4 schools, and damn near getting White and Albert from Tennessee.

[DownwardDawg]

What position is Womack? I don't keep up with recruiting anymore.

[Westdawg]

I will say this has been an UNREAL close by Lebby and Co. Flipping Womack, flipping Nickerson, stealing Crittenden and Henderson from P4 schools, and damn near getting White and Albert from Tennessee.

Have White and Albert signed yet?

[BlackSailsDawg]

Cooley has pushed his signing to Friday.

I take that as a good sign.

Darby is on Friday too

[gtowndawg]

What position is Womack? I don't keep up with recruiting anymore.

Safety

[Westdawg]

Cooley has pushed his signing to Friday.

Guessing this means the bidding war goes into hyper drive? Or he is signing and asked his school to. Not announce until he does?

[Coach34]

We doing some serious roster turnover. We are expecting to grab at least 20 out of the portal or more as well

[BlackSailsDawg]

Notice that Hutzler and Turner not having a lot to say on social media today......

[DownwardDawg]

Safety

Thanks!

[BlackSailsDawg]

We doing some serious roster turnover. We are expecting to grab at least 20 out of the portal or more as well

We are 100% upgrading needs.

[KB21]

Here?s the thing. After 2023, it was going to be a massive process to rebuild the program. We were low on talent. The culture had gone down. We didn?t have even a skeleton of an in house NIL structure.

Some want to skip steps in the process. I get it.

Jeff Lebby walked into an untenable situation. There wasn?t a coach available to us that would have come in and immediately start flipping 4 and 5 star recruits.

However, Jeff came in a damn near flipped a couple. Daniel Hill being one. He closed strong with MVB, Craver, and Stonka that year. Some didn?t pan out. The others transferred out.

Year two, he closed even stronger. He got Tyler Lockhart. He kept Kamario Taylor. He added Ferzell Shepherd.

He has closed strong again. We just missed out on flipping a couple more.

It may not be fast enough for some, but Jeff Lebby knows what he is doing. He?s got the financial backing now. Hit the portal hard. Win 8 next season. We might be at that point where we are actually getting more and more higher rated recruits.

[bigplayslay]

Here?s the thing. After 2023, it was going to be a massive process to rebuild the program. We were low on talent. The culture had gone down. We didn?t have even a skeleton of an in house NIL structure.

Some want to skip steps in the process. I get it.

Jeff Lebby walked into an untenable situation. There wasn?t a coach available to us that would have come in and immediately start flipping 4 and 5 star recruits.

However, Jeff came in a damn near flipped a couple. Daniel Hill being one. He closed strong with MVB, Craver, and Stonka that year. Some didn?t pan out. The others transferred out.

Year two, he closed even stronger. He got Tyler Lockhart. He kept Kamario Taylor. He added Ferzell Shepherd.

He has closed strong again. We just missed out on flipping a couple more.

It may not be fast enough for some, but Jeff Lebby knows what he is doing. He?s got the financial backing now. Hit the portal hard. Win 8 next season. We might be at that point where we are actually getting more and more higher rated recruits.

Just need some momentum!

[Maroon Glasses]

I'm super happy where this class ended up! Great job to Lebby and crew and the big money men!

Also.. to all the posters keeping us informed.. thank you! It means alot to someone like me who has zero connections lol

[KB21]

Toothman is in.

[R2Dawg]

I'm glad we seem to be trending better, moving up in the rankings, but is it fools gold? We have a 5 star (awesome) but one 4 star? Everything else is just 3 stars. I mean even South Carolina has nine 4 stars. Point being, our average player signed, 95% of the class, is (ranking wise) just that, average.

You know the drill, sign with MSU lose a star. The difference in 3 star and 4 star is a hair anyway. No worries.

[BeardoMSU]

Here?s the thing. After 2023, it was going to be a massive process to rebuild the program. We were low on talent. The culture had gone down. We didn?t have even a skeleton of an in house NIL structure.

Some want to skip steps in the process. I get it.

Jeff Lebby walked into an untenable situation. There wasn?t a coach available to us that would have come in and immediately start flipping 4 and 5 star recruits.

However, Jeff came in a damn near flipped a couple. Daniel Hill being one. He closed strong with MVB, Craver, and Stonka that year. Some didn?t pan out. The others transferred out.

Year two, he closed even stronger. He got Tyler Lockhart. He kept Kamario Taylor. He added Ferzell Shepherd.

He has closed strong again. We just missed out on flipping a couple more.

It may not be fast enough for some, but Jeff Lebby knows what he is doing. He?s got the financial backing now. Hit the portal hard. Win 8 next season. We might be at that point where we are actually getting more and more higher rated recruits.

Good post.

[Santiago]

Is Cooley signing with us. Seems he has not signed with Bama just yet.

[Coursesuper]

Here?s the thing. After 2023, it was going to be a massive process to rebuild the program. We were low on talent. The culture had gone down. We didn?t have even a skeleton of an in house NIL structure.

Some want to skip steps in the process. I get it.

Jeff Lebby walked into an untenable situation. There wasn?t a coach available to us that would have come in and immediately start flipping 4 and 5 star recruits.

However, Jeff came in a damn near flipped a couple. Daniel Hill being one. He closed strong with MVB, Craver, and Stonka that year. Some didn?t pan out. The others transferred out.

Year two, he closed even stronger. He got Tyler Lockhart. He kept Kamario Taylor. He added Ferzell Shepherd.

He has closed strong again. We just missed out on flipping a couple more.

It may not be fast enough for some, but Jeff Lebby knows what he is doing. He?s got the financial backing now. Hit the portal hard. Win 8 next season. We might be at that point where we are actually getting more and more higher rated recruits.

This is how it works and that's the plan.

[BlackSailsDawg]

Is Cooley signing with us. Seems he has not signed with Bama just yet.

It looks like he is signing on Friday.

[Santiago]

It looks like he is signing on Friday.

deciding then or knows now?

[Coach34]

deciding then or knows now?

Never know. Our kicker is signing with A&M Friday and he's been 100% committed for a few months. Kids want their moment

[Jarius]

Lebby did a really good job closing this week. He has gotten well deserved criticism but today was a good day for him and us. We need to go tear it up in the portal.

[KB21]

Well, I actually have to see patients this afternoon. No residents to do that grunt work this afternoon. LOL!

[BlackSailsDawg]

Chambers, the kicker, is in

[Op4isabitch]

Chambers, the kicker, is in

I thought C34 said he was signing with aTm on Friday?

Is this another kid?

[StarkVegasSteve]

I thought C34 said he was signing with aTm on Friday?

Is this another kid?

I took this to mean a kid at his school was signing with them on Friday.

[Coach34]

I took this to mean a kid at his school was signing with them on Friday.

Yes- one of my players

[Op4isabitch]

I took this to mean a kid at his school was signing with them on Friday.

Ah okay that makes more sense. Thanks

[Bothrops]

I gotta say I'm impressed with how the staff did today! Several players with national offers pulled in and signed. Nice!

[LibraryDawg]

Lebby kept reiterating that there were a few more that they're hopeful to get in the boat over the next couple days. Anyone have a list of potentials?

[msstate7]

I don't think recruiting rankings are the end all be all, so I'm not freaking out, but our avg per recruit is dead last in the sec. And we're close to 1 behind #15 (Kentucky), which is a good bit.

[gtowndawg]

I don't think recruiting rankings are the end all be all, so I'm not freaking out, but our avg per recruit is dead last in the sec. And we're close to 1 behind #15 (Kentucky), which is a good bit.

That's all I was trying to say and everyone jumped all over me. We did good considering the circumstances, but if you sort rankings by average player rating we are #44 in the country. I'm glad we got who we got, they're Dawgs and I'll pull for them, but I want to be realistic on what we really accomplished compared to other SEC teams because in case you didn't notice that's who we can't seem to beat lately.

[HoopsDawg]

That's all I was trying to say and everyone jumped all over me. We did good considering the circumstances, but if you sort rankings by average player rating we are #44 in the country. I'm glad we got who we got, they're Dawgs and I'll pull for them, but I want to be realistic on what we really accomplished compared to other SEC teams because in case you didn't notice that's who we can't seem to beat lately.

I know JJ Hill and Womack. Don?t know anyone else. I have to assume/hope we are focusing most of our resources on the portal.

[BorneDawg]

Cooper Crosby commits...https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8UCc4ub/ not sure how to link this

[Goldendawg]

I know JJ Hill and Womack. Don?t know anyone else. I have to assume/hope we are focusing most of our resources on the portal.

There are several flips we made today both in state and out of state with very impressive offer sheets. Still took a lot of lower ranked three stars with very limited offers. Maybe some will be that "diamond in the rough". Hail State! Keep Flipping!

[SailingDawg]

Cooper Crosby commits...https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8UCc4ub/ not sure how to link this

I taught at Gulfport High for a number of years and they could never get past the first round. What?s different about them this year? They?re playing for a State championship this weekend.

[KB21]

Picked up Edge Chris Addison, who flipped from Michigan State to the real MSU. High 3 star.

[HoopsDawg]

There are several flips we made today both in state and out of state with very impressive offer sheets. Still took a lot of lower ranked three stars with very limited offers. Maybe some will be that "diamond in the rough". Hail State! Keep Flipping!

That?s good. I just can?t get excited about high school prospects anymore unless they are high 4 stars or better. Any development player cant help next season and could end up transferring before contributing.

[1eyedog]

My scUM FB friend was just posting last night about how their class was better than ours. Lol. Somehow he graduated from State and still loves them.

I?m amazed at the number of MC graduates and even USM folks that don?t claim their alma mater but rather om.. Sort of like a Mississippi poor man's Bama sidewalk fan......

[Maroon Glasses]

I have a question for the guys with connections.

With us picking up so many recruits today.. did we take a big chunk out of the money for the transfer portal? Is there money dedicated just for high school recruiting? After reading some posts about high school recruiting it got me to thinking. Maybe some of the posters are right on getting so many guys you have to develop. Especially in todays game in which they can just up and transfer.

This is a genuine question with no ill will. I'm happy with what Lebby and the guys did today! Just trying to learn a little bit.

[Brobi-wan]

I?m amazed at the number of MC graduates and even USM folks that don?t claim their alma mater. Sort of like a Mississippi poor man's Bama sidewalk fan......

I know him well enough to tell you his character belongs in the velvet ditch lol

[Coursesuper]

I have a question for the guys with connections.

With us picking up so many recruits today.. did we take a big chunk out of the money for the transfer portal? Is there money dedicated just for high school recruiting? After reading some posts about high school recruiting it got me to thinking. Maybe some of the posters are right on getting so many guys you have to develop. Especially in todays game in which they can just up and transfer.

This is a genuine question with no ill will. I'm happy with what Lebby and the guys did today! Just trying to learn a little bit.

We need bodies, ones that can play at every position. This looks like a roster flip, if we are bringing in 20 plus from the portal that’s nearly 50 new players. Bring them in, if they can get it done keep them if not you have to process them. It’s a shitty business but it’s the way things are now.

[CaptainObvious]

We need bodies, ones that can play at every position. This looks like a roster flip, if we are bringing in 20 plus from the portal that’s nearly 50 new players. Bring them in, if they can get it done keep them if not you have to process them. It’s a shitty business but it’s the way things are now.

Yep. You have to think some are going to process themselves through the portal and some are going to get processed and asked to find new homes. No re-homing fees for the current dogs though so there is that!

[Maroon Glasses]

We need bodies, ones that can play at every position. This looks like a roster flip, if we are bringing in 20 plus from the portal that’s nearly 50 new players. Bring them in, if they can get it done keep them if not you have to process them. It’s a shitty business but it’s the way things are now.

Yes sir I completely understand that. Definitely need more depth and I see guys have already jumped in the portal. I'm sure they were told to do that.

I just didn't know if we used a bunch of money to get these guys today. We definitely have to utilize the portal.

[Todd4State]

Yes sir I completely understand that. Definitely need more depth and I see guys have already jumped in the portal. I'm sure they were told to do that.

I just didn't know if we used a bunch of money to get these guys today. We definitely have to utilize the portal.

One thing about it is you have to remember the players we process out we aren't paying for anymore and that frees up a lot of NIL capital depending on how many get processed out.

[CaptainObvious]

32 players on the current roster are moving on. If Whitson can?t get a medical redshirt it will be 33. Thst is counting the current portal entrants. More will be processed and more will choose to portal themselves.

I can easily see 50 holes needing to be filled.
31 signees to date. At least 2 more possible by Friday. So the portal is gonna be between 16 and 25 to round us out to 105.

[Maroon Glasses]

One thing about it is you have to remember the players we process out we aren't paying for anymore and that frees up a lot of NIL capital depending on how many get processed out.

So how exactly does that work? Is their money just cut off immediately?

[Thick]

Does a school have to carry a roster of 105, or is that just a limit set by the NCAA? Why not carry 85, and maximize your NIL to get better players?

[ZedFedder]

What are the chances on Darby and Cooley?

[Coursesuper]

Does a school have to carry a roster of 105, or is that just a limit set by the NCAA? Why not carry 85, and maximize your NIL to get better players?

Agree

[Jarius]

Does a school have to carry a roster of 105, or is that just a limit set by the NCAA? Why not carry 85, and maximize your NIL to get better players?

Because there are only so many sure fire players out there and none of them are going anywhere to sit on the bench. Talent is spread out because players don't want to ride the pine. That bottom 3rd of the roster you have to throw as much sh*t against the wall as you can and hope to get lucky. All of them are basically the same players pedigree wise.

[KB21]

What are the chances on Darby and Cooley?

We are in the mix.

[Goldendawg]

That's all I was trying to say and everyone jumped all over me. We did good considering the circumstances, but if you sort rankings by average player rating we are #44 in the country. I'm glad we got who we got, they're Dawgs and I'll pull for them, but I want to be realistic on what we really accomplished compared to other SEC teams because in case you didn't notice that's who we can't seem to beat lately.

The flips turned our ranking around, but 15 of these signees are ranked .86 or .85 with one OL even being ranked a .84, (and many having very questionable offer sheets, but maybe a few diamonds in the rough will develop). We are still far below most of the other teams in the SEC. On the other side of the coin we were one of the very few teams to give a kicker a full ride. He is rated a .81, but a five star as a kicker and a 4 star as a punter on the kickers only rating site, but still pulls down your ranking per player. We must continue to improve on our recruiting cla$$e$, both HS/JC and the portal to move up in our talent level in the SEC..

[msstate7]

The flips turned our ranking around, but 15 of these signees are ranked .86 or .85 with one OL even being ranked a .84, (and many having very questionable offer sheets, but maybe a few diamonds in the rough will develop). We are still far below most of the other teams in the SEC. On the other side of the coin we were one of the very few teams to give a kicker a full ride. He is rated a .81, but a five star as a kicker and a 4 star as a punter on the kickers only rating site, but still pulls down your ranking per player. We must continue to improve on our recruiting cla$$e$, both HS/JC and the portal to move up in our talent level in the SEC..

Giving a kicker and punter a low rating despite being good is beyond dumb. What's the reasoning for doing this? Kickers and punters can win and lose games

[StarkVegasSteve]

Giving a kicker and punter a low rating despite being good is beyond dumb. What's the reasoning for doing this? Kickers and punters can win and lose games

Because evaluators don't know how to properly evaluate kickers. The only people that do are the kicking evaluators. Kohl's is the best at that and has Chambers rated as the 8th best kicker in the class.

[Goldendawg]

Giving a kicker and punter a low rating despite being good is beyond dumb. What's the reasoning for doing this? Kickers and punters can win and lose games

I have never understood this either. Maybe some of you guys who really follow and "understand" the recruiting rating system can provide more insight.

[Goldendawg]

Because evaluators don't know how to properly evaluate kickers. The only people that do are the kicking evaluators. Kohl's is the best at that and has Chambers rated as the 8th best kicker in the class.

Kohl's gave him the five star rating as a kicker and a four star as a punter. His HS has a long history of producing college kickers and a few have made the NFL.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Kohl's gave him the five star rating as a kicker and a four star as a punter. His HS has a long history of producing college kickers and a few have made the NFL.

Which is why I know he's pretty good. The last kicker we had rated this high was Evan McPherson......too bad Mullen stole him.

[Goldendawg]

Which is why I know he's pretty good. The last kicker we had rated this high was Evan McPherson......too bad Mullen stole him.

They also ranked him the #8 kicker in the country and we also have Ferrie back for his SR year, correct? Keep the pipeline full.

[Coursesuper]

Which is why I know he's pretty good. The last kicker we had rated this high was Evan McPherson......too bad Mullen stole him.

Same high school.

[Thick]

Because there are only so many sure fire players out there and none of them are going anywhere to sit on the bench. Talent is spread out because players don't want to ride the pine. That bottom 3rd of the roster you have to throw as much sh*t against the wall as you can and hope to get lucky. All of them are basically the same players pedigree wise.

I would use the 85 man roster every year. Recruit at a higher lvl, and be transparent about my intentions. All true freshman would be scout team. (There could be exceptions to that rule) Regardless, until the portal is controlled, you can lose starters and second and third teamers annually. Easy come, easy go?..wash, rinse, and repeat! I would not waste money/time on an extra 20 heads.

[Tripp McNeely]

South Carolina seems to be updating the model...only sign about 15 hs guys, and spend a lot of money on them. Then spend the rest of your cash on the portal. Don't waste money on the backend 10-15 hs recruits who will likely never crack your 2-deep

[msstate7]

South Carolina seems to be updating the model...only sign about 15 hs guys, and spend a lot of money. Then spend the rest of your cash on the portal. Don't waste money on the backend 10-15 hs recruits who will likely never crack your 2-deep

I said this should be the plan a few pages back,

[Coach34]

Georgia lost some guys because they wouldnt pay freshmen on the front end very much. I like that model as well. Make them earn some money before paying anything significant

[HoopsDawg]

South Carolina seems to be updating the model...only sign about 15 hs guys, and spend a lot of money. Then spend the rest of your cash on the portal. Don't waste money on the backend 10-15 hs recruits who will likely never crack your 2-deep

The thing im not clear on is schools have to spend the 20.5 million right. And funding full scholarships counts 2.5 toward that 20.5. So maybe it?s better for the AD budget to fully fund scholarships. Otherwise, I would have no more than 85 on scholarship. And I would probably only have 50 earning scholarships + rev share. Then maybe 25 of that 50 earning scholarship+rev+nil. This is off the top of my head but you guys know what im saying. Focus our dollars on the starting units, key positions, and do the best we can on depth.

[Hot Rock]

Does a school have to carry a roster of 105, or is that just a limit set by the NCAA? Why not carry 85, and maximize your NIL to get better players?

Most teams only pay about 45-50 any significant amount. The rest are limited NIL guys with as much upside as you can find. The more you got, the more likely you can find a few you like.

Even a limited NIL deal can be a better deal than a lot of places.

[gtowndawg]

South Carolina seems to be updating the model...only sign about 15 hs guys, and spend a lot of money on them. Then spend the rest of your cash on the portal. Don't waste money on the backend 10-15 hs recruits who will likely never crack your 2-deep

This is what makes the most sense to me by far. Your class ranking won't be great but who cares? Do what's best for your program not one day of crootin' bragging.

[KB21]

Former commit that signed with USC Stephen Miller is in the portal.

[KB21]

How are we feeling this morning about Darby, Cooley, and Mathew?s?

[StarkVegasSteve]

How are we feeling this morning about Darby, Cooley, and Mathew?s?

I don't feel great about any of them, but I guess if you told me one of them signed with State I would say it's Darby.

[BulldogtheMS]

Cooley to Bama

[ZedFedder]

Kenny Darby to UK

[msstate7]

247 changed Womack from safety to CB. Is that how we got em? Letting him play CB?

[StarkVegasSteve]

247 changed Womack from safety to CB. Is that how we got em? Letting him play CB?

He will be a S. He knows it. Our staff knows it. No clue what's up with 247 changing him but that's incorrect. His comp ON THEIR SITE is literally Caleb Downs, A SAFETY.

[DownwardDawg]

Looks like we just missed out on Lamar Brown. Lol

[StarkVegasSteve]

Looks like we just missed out on Lamar Brown. Lol

The kid from a HS ON THE 17 CAMPUS signed with LSU. I mean just a massive and unexpected win for Lane Kiffin and the Tigers.

[ZedFedder]

Jase Mathews to OM. Moncrief is his older cousin.

[DownwardDawg]

The kid from a HS ON THE 17 CAMPUS signed with LSU. I mean just a massive and unexpected win for Lane Kiffin and the Tigers.

Hahaha!!!! IKR!?!?

[msstate7]

So much for us being rated higher than OM. They're 5 spots ahead with 13 less commits.

[Brobi-wan]

So much for us being rated higher than OM. They're 5 spots ahead with 13 less commits.

Don’t sweat it. I feel confident we will be in a better position than them on the first day of the season next year. They are about to bleed a ton of players in the portal cycle

[msstate7]

Don’t sweat it. I feel confident we will be in a better position than them on the first day of the season next year. They are about to bleed a ton of players in the portal cycle

I hope so. I have a feeling they're about to spend like crazy to make sure they don't fall off a cliff

[Coursesuper]

I hope so. I have a feeling they're about to spend like crazy to make sure they don't fall off a cliff

Of course they are so is everyone else.

[KB21]

Also, the draw to the players there was never the idea of playing at Ole Miss. it was the idea of playing for Kiffin. That?s gone now.

[msstate7]

Also, the draw to the players there was never the idea of playing at Ole Miss. it was the idea of playing for Kiffin. That?s gone now.

That's true, but they spend more than us. That matters too

[1eyedog]

del

[Todd4State]

That's true, but they spend more than us. That matters too

Kiffin was really good at evaluating the portal. They are going to miss that a lot. And there was a big discrepancy between their offense and defense. And look at what Kiffin didn't take to LSU.

[Saltydog]

Kiffin was really good at evaluating the portal. They are going to miss that a lot. And there was a big discrepancy between their offense and defense. And look at what Kiffin didn't take to LSU.

***** It was really Golding. He was behind the scenes pulling all the strings. Didn't you get the memo? *****

[msstate7]

***** It was really Golding. He was behind the scenes pulling all the strings. Didn't you get the memo? *****

Gotta love the way they sell out to paint themselves the best

[Bothrops]

I hope so. I have a feeling they're about to spend like crazy to make sure they don't fall off a cliff

They could fall off the cliff anyway. What they spend on transfers may not matter at all now.

[Bothrops]

So much for us being rated higher than OM. They're 5 spots ahead with 13 less commits.

Jase Mathews may never play a doen there. I'm not saying we have a better class but we do have the top RB in the state. I'd put their class maybe a spot or two above us.