Ole Miss AD Keith Carter

[DownwardDawg]

For over a year now, I've read on this board and another board that Ole Miss has an actual AD, unlike State. Carter is a top notch AD who knows what he's doing and has his shit together.

So let me get this straight, everyone in the world knew Kiffin was leaving. Kiffin drug his balls all over Carter and then Carter instantly promoted their DC to head coach.
Yeah, he's really got his shit together.......

[AlSwearengen]

Didn’t he get run from Under Armor for using funds and the Under Armor all star game to help direct recruits to olemiss? Nothing illegal, i assume and that may not have been the real reason; but if it is he is in the right place. His job there is made easier b/c the fanbase will sell their kids to fund football.

[Coursesuper]

Didn’t he get run from Under Armor for using funds and the Under Armor all star game to help direct recruits to olemiss? Nothing illegal, i assume and that may not have been the real reason; but if it is he is in the right place. His job there is made easier b/c the fanbase will sell their kids to fund football.

That's Walker Jones.

[Pancho]

That's Walker Jones.

archies son

[viverlibre]

I think what they did was smart. This is not the year to be looking for a coach. Put guardrails in place to keep everything as much as it is as possible (what Keenum didn't do with Arnept). Sign him to a contract that is friendly to OM and give him a year's "audition." This give's Carter a year to evaluate potential candidates (if necessary). Pete is much more qualified/experienced to be a HC than Arnept was.

[Coach34]

I think what they did was smart. .

Hell no it wasnt. The smart thing would have been to let Lame coach the playoffs and during that time you could properly vet some coaches. Golding was still there for you 3-4 weeks from now. Carter and their people look like morons who couldnt handle getting broken up with. Their fanbase has been an embarrassment the last week. Total shitshow

[Coursesuper]

Hell no it wasnt. The smart thing would have been to let Lame coach the playoffs and during that time you could properly vet some coaches. Golding was still there for you 3-4 weeks from now. Carter and their people look like morons who couldnt handle getting broken up with. Their fanbase has been an embarrassment the last week. Total shitshow

They panicked, it's that simple. They have know this was coming and unlike them didn't get out in front of it.

[basedog]

Carter was dumb not to have been looking and privately interviewing. If I was AD there I wouldn't' let Kiffin coach playoffs either. How do you let someone coach your team when he is going to another school.

[R2Dawg]

Hell no it wasnt. The smart thing would have been to let Lame coach the playoffs and during that time you could properly vet some coaches. Golding was still there for you 3-4 weeks from now. Carter and their people look like morons who couldnt handle getting broken up with. Their fanbase has been an embarrassment the last week. Total shitshow

Bingo. They look like fools. Carter is a rookie AD but OM spin makes you think he is best there is. What a joke.

[R2Dawg]

They panicked, it's that simple. They have know this was coming and unlike them didn't get out in front of it.

Actually I don't think they knew it was coming. They are so arrogant, they thought no one in his right mind would leave the center of the Universe. We are the greatest. They were all talking that no way Lane would leave for LSU after gov comments, etc. OM is clueless about their own position in the world of college sports or anything.

[R2Dawg]

I think what they did was smart. This is not the year to be looking for a coach. Put guardrails in place to keep everything as much as it is as possible (what Keenum didn't do with Arnept). Sign him to a contract that is friendly to OM and give him a year's "audition." This give's Carter a year to evaluate potential candidates (if necessary). Pete is much more qualified/experienced to be a HC than Arnept was.

We did the same thing hiring Arnett but our situation was much worse - we had no warning it was coming. We had the option to release Arnett and that is what we did. An audition is exactly what Arnett got.

[confucius say]

Hell no it wasnt. The smart thing would have been to let Lame coach the playoffs and during that time you could properly vet some coaches. Golding was still there for you 3-4 weeks from now. Carter and their people look like morons who couldnt handle getting broken up with. Their fanbase has been an embarrassment the last week. Total shitshow

Same i said. They should have let lane coach the playoffs and may have fit themselves in final 4 or 2 while hiring a top notch coach.

[basedog]

Carter didn't take charge, it's just that simple. Kiffin played with both Fl and Ole Dixie. They should have been like Saban and telling Kiffin they were not fooling around to either sign or be gone. I don't care how good of a coach is you can't let him control things! Hell, Kiffin has caused trouble everywhere he has been.

[confucius say]

Carter was dumb not to have been looking and privately interviewing. If I was AD there I wouldn't' let Kiffin coach playoffs either. How do you let someone coach your team when he is going to another school.

Tulane is doing it.
You make the best decision for your players to win in the playoff.

[basedog]

Tulane is doing it.
You make the best decision for your players to win in the playoff.

Whole lot of difference in Tulane coach and Kiffin. It should have never come down to the last-minute deciding. That is a terrible business. If Kiffin would have been allowed to Coach, I think he takes more players and coaches to Red Stick. Plus look how he bashed Carter and Ole Dixie now! There locker room is mess either way and again I blame Carter BUT I am happy what is being played out! LOL.

[Coursesuper]

Bingo. They look like fools. Carter is a rookie AD but OM spin makes you think he is best there is. What a joke.

They knew, but the real leadership was trying to cling to a hope and the AD was caught in storm he couldn't get out of. Lets hope they return to the bunch of meddling shitheads they are. They backed off and let Kiffin run it his way and that looks to be now more.

[DawgFromOxford]

Carter botched it no doubt. Once Kiffin hadn't signed the extension, he either should've been suspended or you let him see the whole season all the way through even though you know he is leaving. Instead Carter and Kiffin wanted to play a game of chicken to see who blinked first

[Cowbeller]

KC screwed up when he tried to have it both ways. You have to suspend or let coach all the way through. The second he entertained the back and forth it spiraled out of control.

Personally if it was us I let him coach and try and make a run, the opportunity to be that good might not come again for a long time or ever. Plus if you keep the money in place for the next year and the perception that youre a new school powerhouse then your recruiting and new hire cant go that haywire.

[Coach34]

If I was AD there I wouldn't' let Kiffin coach playoffs either. How do you let someone coach your team when he is going to another school.

The same way Florida did when Mullen took our job. You let them finish the job with the team and he can handle the other part as well

[Coach34]

Whole lot of difference in Tulane coach and Kiffin. It should have never come down to the last-minute deciding. That is a terrible business. If Kiffin would have been allowed to Coach, I think he takes more players and coaches to Red Stick. Plus look how he bashed Carter and Ole Dixie now! There locker room is mess either way and again I blame Carter BUT I am happy what is being played out! LOL.

Tulane is another example like we were with Mullen. Lame is going to get the same number of players from the Confederates whether he coached the playoffs or not. They are either a Lame guy or they arent by now. A couple more weeks wont make a difference

[Santiago]

We did the same thing hiring Arnett but our situation was much worse - we had no warning it was coming. We had the option to release Arnett and that is what we did. An audition is exactly what Arnett got.

plus we did not try to save the offensive staff to keep continuity for a season. Ole Miss at least was trying to hold the staff together.

[Jarius]

For over a year now, I've read on this board and another board that Ole Miss has an actual AD, unlike State. Carter is a top notch AD who knows what he's doing and has his shit together.

So let me get this straight, everyone in the world knew Kiffin was leaving. Kiffin drug his balls all over Carter and then Carter instantly promoted their DC to head coach.
Yeah, he's really got his shit together.......

Carter got lucky in 2 coaching searches where other schools would not touch guys and he just went all in on character risks and hit it big. If there isn't a shady character guy that no one else wants he isn't any better than anyone else.

[Jarius]

Hell no it wasnt. The smart thing would have been to let Lame coach the playoffs and during that time you could properly vet some coaches. Golding was still there for you 3-4 weeks from now. Carter and their people look like morons who couldnt handle getting broken up with. Their fanbase has been an embarrassment the last week. Total shitshow

Not letting Lane coach the playoffs was the dumbest thing I have ever seen. They tried to act like they were worried about him poaching players (as if he won't get the ones he wants anyway) and then took the OC back to let him coach in the playoffs.....the same OC that is going to be at LSU. Guess he is different than Lane and won't be trying to do that. They were just mad they got shown that they were a bottom tier SEC program and were willing to throw away the only chance they will ever have to win anything meaningful in football. Dumbass move of the century.

[Political Hack]

Hell no it wasnt. The smart thing would have been to let Lame coach the playoffs and during that time you could properly vet some coaches. Golding was still there for you 3-4 weeks from now. Carter and their people look like morons who couldnt handle getting broken up with. Their fanbase has been an embarrassment the last week. Total shitshow

100%. It's their only chance to win a natty and their AD flushed it over pride and ego. Typically for that group, but extremely short sited.

[Jarius]

Whole lot of difference in Tulane coach and Kiffin. It should have never come down to the last-minute deciding. That is a terrible business. If Kiffin would have been allowed to Coach, I think he takes more players and coaches to Red Stick. Plus look how he bashed Carter and Ole Dixie now! There locker room is mess either way and again I blame Carter BUT I am happy what is being played out! LOL.

Not hardly. This is insane. You would have forced a guy under an 8 year contract to make a decision? Oh really? How would you have done that? Fired him and paid his 50 million dollar buyout for not answering you when you demanded it when he's already under contract? You have zero leverage and if you're worried about people poaching players, why are you allowing the OC of LSU to be in your building for the next month? Is Tulane not worried about that? How about JMU? This is all just bull sh*t. The major difference between Tulane's situation and OM's situation is Tulane doesn't have a dumba$$ AD that tried to bully their head coach and give him an "ultimatum" a month before the season ended. Most coaches would react poorly to some idiot at a lesser program being so ungrateful to what you have done for their sh*tty a$$ program.

[viverlibre]

Whole lot of difference in Tulane coach and Kiffin. It should have never come down to the last-minute deciding. That is a terrible business. If Kiffin would have been allowed to Coach, I think he takes more players and coaches to Red Stick. Plus look how he bashed Carter and Ole Dixie now! There locker room is mess either way and again I blame Carter BUT I am happy what is being played out! LOL.

^^^^this

The situations are different. Tulane is a not a rival of UF's and likely Tulane has few players that Sumerall will want at UF.

There is no way they could have/should have left Lame stay and coach in the playoffs, absolutely way. OM is not going to win the natty this year anyway, no matter if Lame stayed or not. Have you guys not seen the OM fan reactions?

[viverlibre]

100%. It's their only chance to win a natty and their AD flushed it over pride and ego. Typically for that group, but extremely short sited.

Dude, they don't have any realistic chance at the natty, come on, you can't be that naive.

[viverlibre]

Hell no it wasnt. The smart thing would have been to let Lame coach the playoffs and during that time you could properly vet some coaches. Golding was still there for you 3-4 weeks from now. Carter and their people look like morons who couldnt handle getting broken up with. Their fanbase has been an embarrassment the last week. Total shitshow

Tell me a "name" coach they are going to get this year? Gruden or Urban are about the only two names left that would satisfy the fanbase.

From what I've been hearing for weeks is the Carter has been on a coaching search (contacting agents) in the likely event that Kiffin was leaving, this wasn't a surprise to anyone. Certainly he didn't get any interest from a big enough name that would satisfy the fanbase. Roll with Pete in 2026, if he doesn't pan out, fire him early and be first inline during the next hiring cycle.

From everything I've read, Sumrall was who Carter wanted, but with UF being open Sumrall wasn't going to commit to OM.

[Brobi-wan]

Tell me a "name" coach they are going to get this year? Gruden or Urban are about the only two names left that would satisfy the fanbase.

From what I've been hearing for weeks is the Carter has been on a coaching search (contacting agents) in the likely event that Kiffin was leaving, this wasn't a surprise to anyone. Certainly he didn't get any interest from a big enough name that would satisfy the fanbase. Roll with Pete in 2026, if he doesn't pan out, fire him early and be first inline during the next hiring cycle.

We have lived that one. They’ll be in trouble next year. With everyone portaling out it will be a year or two rebuild. They won’t be down forever. Hopefully long enough for us to take control of the state

[Jarius]

^^^^this

The situations are different. Tulane is a not a rival of UF's and likely Tulane has few players that Sumerall will want at UF.

There is no way they could have/should have left Lame stay and coach in the playoffs, absolutely way. OM is not going to win the natty this year anyway, no matter if Lame stayed or not. Have you guys not seen the OM fan reactions?

The situations are not different. They are fine with Charlie Weiss being in the building. You think he is not going to be doing the same thing Lane would be doing? Newsflash: if Lane wants the players at Ole Miss they are going to LSU, whether they are in the building or not. Those 2 programs are not in the same league, which is why Kiffin left. Ole Miss is mad because they do not want to face that reality and that is the core of all of the hate.

[Political Hack]

Dude, they don't have any realistic chance at the natty, come on, you can't be that naive.

There are 12 teams that have a shot at the natty. Realistically.

[Saltydog]

Kiffin just drug his balls all over Carter's chin.......... He looks like an absolute clown after this fiasco........

[viverlibre]

The situations are not different. They are fine with Charlie Weiss being in the building. You think he is not going to be doing the same thing Lane would be doing? Newsflash: if Lane wants the players at Ole Miss they are going to LSU, whether they are in the building or not. Those 2 programs are not in the same league, which is why Kiffin left. Ole Miss is mad because they do not want to face that reality and that is the core of all of the hate.

You must not be paying attention. Have you not seen fan reaction to Kiffin leaving? ADs pay attention to fan perception, Charlie wasn't the target of their anger, Kiffin was/is, there was no way they could left Kiffin be the leader of the program, and run recruiting/portal for both programs.

Again OM fan considers LSU a hated rival and they play every year. After this, they will consider LSU a bigger rival than us.

There's absolutely no connection between Tulane and UF.

[viverlibre]

There are 12 teams that have a shot at the natty. Realistically only four teams have a chance to win it.

FIFY. Seriously, if Lane thought they had a realistic chance, he wouldn't have left.

[Jarius]

You must not be paying attention. Have you not seen fan reaction to Kiffin leaving? ADs pay attention to fan perception, Charlie wasn't the target of their anger, Kiffin was/is, there was no way they could left Kiffin be the leader of the program, and run recruiting/portal for both programs.

Again OM fan considers LSU a hated rival and they play every year. After this, they will consider LSU a bigger rival than us.

There's absolutely no connection between Tulane and UF.

Yes, I saw it. The reason their fan reaction was that way was because their AD is a dumb@$$ and handled it poorly and threw it all on Kiffin after he made a bunch of ignorant decisions. If the people that covered that program would have been fed different information that didn't frame the best coach they have ever had as a villain for taking a much much much much much better job that is nowhere close to being on the same level as Ole Miss, there would be no fan reaction. He would have been able to leave gracefully. Instead, their meathead AD decided to poke the bear and paint the best coach they will ever have as a turd just because he didn't view Ole Miss as the mecca of college football and got his fanbase to hate the guy and now here we are. Carter and that administration caused all of this.

[Jarius]

FIFY. Seriously, if Lane thought they had a realistic chance, he wouldn't have left.

Are you an Ole Miss fan or something? Lane could have had the 85 bears this year and he was leaving. LSU is an elite job that doesn't have to solely rely on the portal. LSU can actually use the portal as a supplemental piece and rely on home grown talent to fill a lot of the roster. Ole Miss is going to have to hit on an ultra high rate of portal guys every year which is really hard to do. The reason he's not coaching OM is because the OM AD is an idiot that threw the only chance they will ever have to win a title down the toilet. Kiffin did not want to leave prior to the playoffs being over.

[Cowbeller]

FIFY. Seriously, if Lane thought they had a realistic chance, he wouldn't have left.

He tried to coach them bc he did think it was possible. He was forced out early but leaving had nothing to do with this years chances

[viverlibre]

He tried to coach them bc he did think it was possible. He was forced out early but leaving had nothing to do with this years chances

He could have strung LSU out even longer. Lane's value isn't going down any time soon, no matter if he stayed at OM and went 8-4 next season. If he thought OM had a chance, and he would know, he wouldn't have made his move when he did. Even if LSU moved on, there'll be another high profile job come open in the next year or two.

OM doesn't have a shot at the natty, the only teams that can challenge TOSU (based on the most recent playoff projections): first tier - UGA, Bama, Indiana. second tier - TAMU, Oregon. That's it.

No one, but folks on this board think OM will challenge for the natty.

[basedog]

Not hardly. This is insane. You would have forced a guy under an 8 year contract to make a decision? Oh really? How would you have done that? Fired him and paid his 50 million dollar buyout for not answering you when you demanded it when he's already under contract? You have zero leverage and if you're worried about people poaching players, why are you allowing the OC of LSU to be in your building for the next month? Is Tulane not worried about that? How about JMU? This is all just bull sh*t. The major difference between Tulane's situation and OM's situation is Tulane doesn't have a dumba$$ AD that tried to bully their head coach and give him an "ultimatum" a month before the season ended. Most coaches would react poorly to some idiot at a lesser program being so ungrateful to what you have done for their sh*tty a$$ program.

Like i said, Carter screwed this situation. He should have suspended Kiffin from coaching and kept paying him. Kiffin would have had to make a deciision are file a law suit.

[Jarius]

Like i said, Carter screwed this situation. He should have suspended Kiffin from coaching and kept paying him. Kiffin would have had to make a deciision are file a law suit.

If you never want to hire another coach with options again for as long as you are an AD you could do this. Holy hell what a bad idea.

[Jarius]

He could have strung LSU out even longer. Lane's value isn't going down any time soon, no matter if he stayed at OM and went 8-4 next season. If he thought OM had a chance, and he would know, he wouldn't have made his move when he did. Even if LSU moved on, there'll be another high profile job come open in the next year or two.

OM doesn't have a shot at the natty, the only teams that can challenge TOSU (based on the most recent playoff projections): first tier - UGA, Bama, Illinois. second tier - TAMU, Oregon. That's it.

No one, but folks on this board think OM will challenge for the natty.

You are so lost. You think Lane was going to kill his recruiting class at LSU just to be able to coach at Ole Miss for another month? No.No one wants to be in a Penn State situation. No coach is killing signing day at their future school.

[Pancho]

Illinois????????

[confucius say]

Like i said, Carter screwed this situation. He should have suspended Kiffin from coaching and kept paying him. Kiffin would have had to make a deciision are file a law suit.

Carter couldn't do that. Lane's k with OM had incentives in it for every win. Take that chance away from him by suspending him would have resulted in a slam dunk lawsuit with hefty damages.

[RisperDawg]

Illinois????????

I caught that too. All those Midwest states are the same anyway. Ha.

[viverlibre]

Illinois????????

Haha good catch.

[1eyedog]

Can one of you DOGS tell me why Carter would not let LK come coach the CFP because he is now coaching elsewhere BUT.......... They will let the off cord that is now coaching elsewhere come and coach om for the playoffs???

[Pancho]

They need Weis simply to call plays. Kiffin was vague and wouldn't give a credible response to anything because he knew all along he was leaving for the bayou

[basedog]

Can one of you DOGS tell me why Carter would not let LK come coach the CFP because he is now coaching elsewhere BUT.......... They will let the off cord that is now coaching elsewhere come and coach om for the playoffs???

It’s kinda like this. You have a kid who tells you IF you don’t buy me a brand new car I’m gonna destroy your expensive SUV. So you ok I’m gonna go get whatever you want.
It’s all about Kiffin, he is a joke as a human being. Bill Cowher ripped Kiffin apart and most agree with him. He warned LSU recruits about Kiffin. Everywhere Kiffin has been he has caused problems.

[Todd4State]

Can one of you DOGS tell me why Carter would not let LK come coach the CFP because he is now coaching elsewhere BUT.......... They will let the off cord that is now coaching elsewhere come and coach om for the playoffs???

Typical Ole Miss tactic. Try to pin someone in so that they are forced to do Ole Miss's bidding. In this case, Carter tried to make it into an either you leave or you coach us in the playoff option in the hopes that it would make Kiffin stay. The crazy thing to me about it is Carter apparently was too cocky in thinking that there was no way that Kiffin would choose to leave over coaching in the playoffs that he obviously has no back up plan in case Kiffin chose to leave.

Honestly, Carter made Cohen look like a pro the way that he handled a similar situation with Dan Mullen in 2017. Sure, Moorhead didn't work but I feel like Moorhead had a better chance of working than Golding does.

And I would be a bit nervous about Weis coming back to coach for the playoffs if I was Ole Miss. Very good chance that Weis is going to tamper with the players that Lane wants to bring to Baton Rouge.

[Todd4State]

It’s kinda like this. You have a kid who tells you IF you don’t buy me a brand new car I’m gonna destroy your expensive SUV. So you ok I’m gonna go get whatever you want.
It’s all about Kiffin, he is a joke as a human being. Bill Cowher ripped Kiffin apart and most agree with him. He warned LSU recruits about Kiffin. Everywhere Kiffin has been he has caused problems.

The way this ended was completely predictable.

It has only happened every single time Kiffin left anywhere. Ole Miss should be VERY thankful that they had Kiffin for six years. He would have been gone three years ago if his daughter didn't talk him out of taking Auburn. And then the house settlement limited coaching changes in the SEC from 2023-2024. Him leaving was inevitable.

[Jarius]

It?s kinda like this. You have a kid who tells you IF you don?t buy me a brand new car I?m gonna destroy your expensive SUV. So you ok I?m gonna go get whatever you want.
It?s all about Kiffin, he is a joke as a human being. Bill Cowher ripped Kiffin apart and most agree with him. He warned LSU recruits about Kiffin. Everywhere Kiffin has been he has caused problems.

This is not what happened. Kiffin didn't threaten anyone until Ole Miss threatened him. Kiffin was under an 8 year contract and when he refused to just bow down to Ole Miss and do what they demanded him do (without any leverage at all) he told them to go screw themselves. If you are at your place of employment and under an 8 year contract and they come to you and demand you sign another extension on top of that or you will be fired immediately when you have much better job opportunities on the table what would you do? I know I would not respond kindly. You are painting Kiffin as the villain when the real problem was OM doing the poot and point. Those ungrateful bastards are the reason this happened. They want to win the perception war and when he took a job in the same conference it told everyone that Ole Miss was second tier, and they can't stand that. Everyone but them knows LSU is a tier or 2 above them in prestige, but in their minds that is their "real rival" (yea f*cking right) and it hurt their ego.

[basedog]

This is not what happened. Kiffin didn't threaten anyone until Ole Miss threatened him. Kiffin was under an 8 year contract and when he refused to just bow down to Ole Miss and do what they demanded him do (without any leverage at all) he told them to go 17 themselves. If you are at your place of employment and under an 8 year contract and they come to you and demand you sign another extension on top of that or you will be fired immediately when you have much better job opportunities on the table what would you do? I know I would not respond kindly. You are painting Kiffin as the villain when the real problem was OM doing the poot and point. Those ungrateful bastards are the reason this happened.

Look, I don't care for either Ole Dixie or Kiffin. They both got what they deserve. Kiffin actually started all this with his agent getting offers and told Carter what the offers where, then Ole Dixie said they would match but Kiffin said or told them he hasn't decided, which was bull because he knew if he said yes it would cause problems him finishing the season.
Hey, I will just say we agree to disagree, but both didn't handle this very well. Btw, Eli has stepped into this pile of sh*t with comments about Kiffin now, one thing is certain, it has hurt both Ole Dixie and Kiffin with the way things have gone and now law suits. I love it!

[Jarius]

Look, I don't care for either Ole Dixie or Kiffin. They both got what they deserve. Kiffin actually started all this with his agent getting offers and told Carter what the offers where, then Ole Dixie said they would match but Kiffin said or told them he hasn't decided, which was bull because he knew if he said yes it would cause problems him finishing the season.
Hey, I will just say we agree to disagree, but both didn't handle this very well. Btw, Eli has stepped into this pile of sh*t with comments about Kiffin now, one thing is certain, it has hurt both Ole Dixie and Kiffin with the way things have gone and now law suits. I love it!

I do know that Kiffin is a spoiled brat and troll. This is what gets me about OM. They LOVED that sh*t when he was doing it the past 6 years and now they poked the bear and it ain't so funny any more. But I don't think Kiffin getting offers and telling his boss what the offers were is a bad thing. He was being up front. That's the most you can ask for. What did he get for being up front? They tried to box him in and force his hand and then painted him as a villain for not making the choice they wanted. He could have been a real ass and told them he didn't have any other offers and left them surprised on signing day if he had wanted to do that.

[Really Clark?]

I do know that Kiffin is a spoiled brat and troll. This is what gets me about OM. They LOVED that sh*t when he was doing it the past 6 years and now they poked the bear and it ain't so funny any more. But I don't think Kiffin getting offers and telling his boss what the offers were is a bad thing. He was being up front. That's the most you can ask for. What did he get for being up front? They tried to box him in and force his hand and then painted him as a villain for not making the choice they wanted. He could have been a real ass and told them he didn't have any other offers and left them surprised on signing day if he had wanted to do that.

I kinda get what you are saying but there wouldn't have been a surprised leaving. You had 2 in conference schools talking to Kiffin. Carter knew almost at the same time because there can't be a hushed back room deal in place. It's a very very small AD fraternity and protocol requirements in place. Especially inside conference. It would have made it easier for Carter if Lane had lied to be honest because he already knew who was talking to Lane.

[Jarius]

I kinda get what you are saying but there wouldn't have been a surprised leaving. You had 2 in conference schools talking to Kiffin. Carter knew almost at the same time because there can't be a hushed back room deal in place. It's a very very small AD fraternity and protocol requirements in place. Especially inside conference. It would have made it easier for Carter if Lane had lied to be honest because he already knew who was talking to Lane.

Oh it could have been kept hush hush until after the season. He could have let his agent do all the talking back room stuff and only started talking to them himself when the egg bowl was over, but he did not do that. Kiffin did not think that they were going to react this way because they had kissed his ass so hard for the past 6 years. He underestimated how 2 faced those people are when you are no longer useful to them and it cost him.

[Really Clark?]

Oh it could have been kept hush hush until after the season. He could have let his agent do all the talking back room stuff and only started talking to them himself when the egg bowl was over, but he did not do that. Kiffin did not think that they were going to react this way because they had kissed his ass so hard for the past 6 years. He underestimated how 2 faced those people are when you are no longer useful to them and it cost him.

Naw, that's not how it goes down. There's really not these hush hush backroom deals inside the conference. Once it's past that first, Jimmy is Lane interested in us, everything after that gets out and known inside the conference circle. Then you add there were 2 schools after him in conference, nobody is keeping that hush hush. Once the schools AD's are involved, all the other AD's know.

[Jarius]

Naw, that's not how it goes down. There's really not these hush hush backroom deals inside the conference. Once it's past that first, Jimmy is Lane interested in us, everything after that gets out and known inside the conference circle. Then you add there were 2 schools after him in conference, nobody is keeping that hush hush. Once the schools AD's are involved, all the other AD's know.

He could have told his agent that he is interested but wants to wait until the season is over to go forward with anything and told him if this gets out then I'm not going to either school and it would not have gotten out.

[basedog]

Kiffin's ego and arrogance was the problem. Why on earth does it take weeks to decide on leaving or staying. You can say well he wants to coach till the end; I'm just not one that likes it with hanging around when you agree to leave. If what Eli said about Kiffin not being in team meetings the week of the Egg Bowl is true says a lot. Yep, the team didn't need Kiffin to beat us so....
No doubt Carter was 50% of the problem, The problem was mainly Kiffin for dragging things out, if he would have told them he was leaving earlier, things might have been different.

[Jarius]

Kiffin's ego and arrogance was the problem. Why on earth does it take weeks to decide on leaving or staying. You can say well he wants to coach till the end; I'm just not one that likes it with hanging around when you agree to leave. If what Eli said about Kiffin not being in team meetings the week of the Egg Bowl is true says a lot. Yep, the team didn't need Kiffin to beat us so....
No doubt Carter was 50% of the problem, The problem was mainly Kiffin for dragging things out, if he would have told them he was leaving earlier, things might have been different.

He dragged it out because Ole Miss put him in a corner and told him once he made his decision they wanted him gone if it was not them. He was not deciding or torn. He was trying to use that time to talk them into letting him coach his team throughout the playoffs. The team he built. He is the reason they are where they are and he wanted to finish what HE built. They are letting the OC stay and he is not coaching them after the playoffs. Why is that? That guy has just as much incentive as Kiffin does to poach players.

[Really Clark?]

He could have told his agent that he is interested but wants to wait until the season is over to go forward with anything and told him if this gets out then I'm not going to either school and it would not have gotten out.

He could have done that, sure. Of course, as soon as LSU & Florida come open, I'm seeing if Lane will sign an extension with me as well. Now not like Carter did but I'm gauging where he's at with his thinking. I'm not going to be left standing with no options when the music stops right after the egg bowl.

[Tripp McNeely]

He dragged it on because he's an attention hoe! #benwasright

[Jarius]

He could have done that, sure. Of course, as soon as LSU & Florida come open, I'm seeing if Lane will sign an extension with me as well. Now not like Carter did but I'm gauging where he's at with his thinking. I'm not going to be left standing with no options when the music stops right after the egg bowl.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-fat-jack-sports-hour/id1437208471?i=1000739682752


I know a lot of people don't like Bo Bounds but I listen to him largely for his guests. If you will listen to the last 6 minutes of this podcast he sums up my feelings on those clowns in this situation. He has no connections here other than giving out picks on Bo's show (and other shows around the country). He has been running their AD in the ground for 2 weeks. This is not me pushing his product, but I will say his picks are above 50 % on the free winners he has put out. I have never heard of him until this year.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Lane screwed OM. Plain and Simple. He tried to make sure they couldn't hire a good coach by waiting as long as he did. He knew last week that he was taking the LSU job but he decided that he was going to play hardball with OM because he wanted to keep the camera on him. He didn't give a 17 about "finishing the job with his team" or some of that other BS he said. Lane cares about Lane and Lane only. Not OM, not LSU, not his family, not the players, not Juice, etc.

And also, OM was in a lose lose situation. If they suspended him, then he would've just filed an injunction and coached anyways. And also probably gotten buyout money. No coach wants to take a job that they are actively recruiting their new team against the old coach, who's still in the building. I have it on very good authority that had Lane stepped down on Friday night, Jon Sumrall is probably announced Sunday as OM's new HC instead of Florida. I also know Golesh waited until he couldn't anymore because he wanted that job.

[KB21]

Well I'll be. Zavion Hardy is in the transfer portal.

[Coursesuper]

Well I'll be. Zavion Hardy is in the transfer portal.

Imagine that.

[Todd4State]

Lane screwed OM. Plain and Simple. He tried to make sure they couldn't hire a good coach by waiting as long as he did. He knew last week that he was taking the LSU job but he decided that he was going to play hardball with OM because he wanted to keep the camera on him. He didn't give a 17 about "finishing the job with his team" or some of that other BS he said. Lane cares about Lane and Lane only. Not OM, not LSU, not his family, not the players, not Juice, etc.

And also, OM was in a lose lose situation. If they suspended him, then he would've just filed an injunction and coached anyways. And also probably gotten buyout money. No coach wants to take a job that they are actively recruiting their new team against the old coach, who's still in the building. I have it on very good authority that had Lane stepped down on Friday night, Jon Sumrall is probably announced Sunday as OM's new HC instead of Florida. I also know Golesh waited until he couldn't anymore because he wanted that job.

And now whenever Ole Miss has to replace Golding that coach is going to end up having to rebuild most likely.

[PGHBulldogBG]

Lane screwed OM. Plain and Simple. He tried to make sure they couldn't hire a good coach by waiting as long as he did. He knew last week that he was taking the LSU job but he decided that he was going to play hardball with OM because he wanted to keep the camera on him. He didn't give a 17 about "finishing the job with his team" or some of that other BS he said. Lane cares about Lane and Lane only. Not OM, not LSU, not his family, not the players, not Juice, etc.

And also, OM was in a lose lose situation. If they suspended him, then he would've just filed an injunction and coached anyways. And also probably gotten buyout money. No coach wants to take a job that they are actively recruiting their new team against the old coach, who's still in the building. I have it on very good authority that had Lane stepped down on Friday night, Jon Sumrall is probably announced Sunday as OM's new HC instead of Florida. I also know Golesh waited until he couldn't anymore because he wanted that job.

Why would Sumrall or Golesh want the Ole Miss job over Auburn or Florida? Neither of them have connections to Ole Miss that I know of and those 2, especially UF, are steps up from Ole Miss.

[Coursesuper]

Why would Sumrall or Golesh want the Ole Miss job over Auburn or Florida? Neither of them have connections to Ole Miss that I know of and those 2, especially UF, are steps up from Ole Miss.

Maybe because its a place where a guy just had 3 10 win plus years in a row.

[Maroon Glasses]

Why would Sumrall or Golesh want the Ole Miss job over Auburn or Florida? Neither of them have connections to Ole Miss that I know of and those 2, especially UF, are steps up from Ole Miss.

Yeah.. they probably seen how invested OM was with NIL. That's one if the biggest, if not the biggest, factor in coaches decisions.

Not saying AU and Florida aren't invested, but you can see the trouble inside those programs from the outside. Boosters meddle with everything. OM let Lane run the show. Thats very attractive to coaches.

[Coach34]

I dont think Auburn TODAY is any better of a job than Mississippi. They fund football as good or better. This is the Money Era. Old times are now actually forgotten

[TrapGame]

Yeah.. they probably seen how invested OM was with NIL. That's one if the biggest, if not the biggest, factor in coaches decisions.

Not saying AU and Florida aren't invested, but you can see the trouble inside those programs from the outside. Boosters meddle with everything. OM let Lane run the show. Thats very attractive to coaches.

That's why I can see Golding getting dumped after the playoffs for a better coach.

I would not be shocked if it happened.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Why would Sumrall or Golesh want the Ole Miss job over Auburn or Florida? Neither of them have connections to Ole Miss that I know of and those 2, especially UF, are steps up from Ole Miss.

Because coaches talk. They know that if you win at OM, the boosters stay the hell out of the way and just give. They know at Auburn and Florida you have to bend over backwards and invite boosters on your family beach trip to get 100K, whether you're 12-0 or 0-12

[Maroon Glasses]

That's why I can see Golding getting dumped after the playoffs for a better coach.

I would not be shocked if it happened.

I think that was the plan from the beginning. I believe they did this whole Golding thing just to please the playoffs committee with stability.

The risk in that is who will be available? Maybe Golding fills in until someone becomes avaliable. Or would they consider Weis?

[StarkVegasSteve]

That's why I can see Golding getting dumped after the playoffs for a better coach.

I would not be shocked if it happened.

They're rolling with Pete. At least for 2026. I have that on 100% authority. Now, if they were completely blown out in the playoffs in Rd 1 maybe a change could happen. But barring something unforeseen happen, Pete is the HC. I tried to tell everyone from late September on that Pete had a lot of allies within their booster ranks and in the athletic dept and I thought there was a real world where he succeeded Kiffin.

[Thick]

Why would Sumrall or Golesh want the Ole Miss job over Auburn or Florida? Neither of them have connections to Ole Miss that I know of and those 2, especially UF, are steps up from Ole Miss.

Maybe bc he didn?t want to work at places that big donors are known to be heavily involved.

[DownwardDawg]

They're rolling with Pete. At least for 2026. I have that on 100% authority. Now, if they were completely blown out in the playoffs in Rd 1 maybe a change could happen. But barring something unforeseen happen, Pete is the HC. I tried to tell everyone from late September on that Pete had a lot of allies within their booster ranks and in the athletic dept and I thought there was a real world where he succeeded Kiffin.

Please let them keep him as Head Coach!!!!!

I was thinking the same thing as Trap. I'm betting this is a quick band-aid, then if they have a chance to get a good coach they'll jump on it. Hopefully Pete stays and they suck next year. Then the candidates will realize they're starting over again.

This is what winning does though. Ole Miss could have had any of those top candidates if Kiffin had not screwed them so bad. We need Lebby to win......badly.

[TrapGame]

Please let them keep him as Head Coach!!!!!

I was thinking the same thing as Trap. I'm betting this is a quick band-aid, then if they have a chance to get a good coach they'll jump on it. Hopefully Pete stays and they suck next year. Then the candidates will realize they're starting over again.

This is what winning does though. Ole Miss could have had any of those top candidates if Kiffin had not screwed them so bad. We need Lebby to win......badly.

Usually this means we have a good year when stuff like this happens.

I can see us having a great year, whoop them in the Egg at VHS and they fire Pete the next day.

After Lane they aren't letting someone get the Matt Luke Deal.

[Bubb Rubb]

nm

[Bubb Rubb]

Lane screwed OM. Plain and Simple. He tried to make sure they couldn't hire a good coach by waiting as long as he did. He knew last week that he was taking the LSU job but he decided that he was going to play hardball with OM because he wanted to keep the camera on him. He didn't give a 17 about "finishing the job with his team" or some of that other BS he said. Lane cares about Lane and Lane only. Not OM, not LSU, not his family, not the players, not Juice, etc.

And also, OM was in a lose lose situation. If they suspended him, then he would've just filed an injunction and coached anyways. And also probably gotten buyout money. No coach wants to take a job that they are actively recruiting their new team against the old coach, who's still in the building. I have it on very good authority that had Lane stepped down on Friday night, Jon Sumrall is probably announced Sunday as OM's new HC instead of Florida. I also know Golesh waited until he couldn't anymore because he wanted that job.

This is stupid. Sumrall was never going to be the coach at Ole Miss when Auburn or Florida were options. Golesh would've never been the coach at Ole Miss if Auburn was an option. They probably had a shot at Golesh until Auburn called.

Ole Miss is nowhere near the job some of you think it is. That's why they are stuck with a guy who would not be a candidate for any other P4 job opening. Hell, he wouldn't have been a candidate at Tulane or Memphis.

[Todd4State]

Because coaches talk. They know that if you win at OM, the boosters stay the hell out of the way and just give. They know at Auburn and Florida you have to bend over backwards and invite boosters on your family beach trip to get 100K, whether you're 12-0 or 0-12

The problem with Ole Miss is they are very vindictive and they'll run you down to the nth degree if you don't win enough. Kiffin is one example and yes he deserves everything he is getting. But they acted the same way towards Nutt and after he got fired.

You leave them and then they air out all of your dirty laundry. Including anything about your damn dog.

[LibraryDawg]

Any idea who this mystery coach is that they are bringing in? Carter teased it in a podcast today apparently.

[Coursesuper]

Any idea who this mystery coach is that they are bringing in? Carter teased it in a podcast today apparently.

I’d be willing to bet it’s Ron Roberts if he’s not already there.

[ScooterDog]

Golding was not that bad of a DC. Do you think we should consider getting him if and when we get rid of our DC. Just a thought.

[Brobi-wan]

Golding was not that bad of a DC. Do you think we should consider getting him if and when we get rid of our DC. Just a thought.

There’s a head coaching problem with that.

[ScooterDog]

They might not keep Golding after the playoffs.

[Tripp McNeely]

They might not keep Golding after the playoffs.

Go on...

[Activated Alpha]

If OM fires Golding after the playoffs then that would be a PR nightmare after their media lifted him up after Lane. #goldera

[Cowbell]

Hell no it wasnt. The smart thing would have been to let Lame coach the playoffs and during that time you could properly vet some coaches. Golding was still there for you 3-4 weeks from now. Carter and their people look like morons who couldnt handle getting broken up with. Their fanbase has been an embarrassment the last week. Total shitshow

This right here. He wouldn't have flipped their recruits before NSD either. So stupid on Carter's part.

[Cowbell]

They might not keep Golding after the playoffs.

That's not true

[SPMT]

Golding was not that bad of a DC. Do you think we should consider getting him if and when we get rid of our DC. Just a thought.

He was despised at Bama. I thought he sucked watching his D. Maybe he?s improved.

[Todd4State]

If OM fires Golding after the playoffs then that would be a PR nightmare after their media lifted him up after Lane. #goldera

Yeah. It would have to be some kind of a scandal and we know Ole Miss can cover anything up it wants to.

[Bubb Rubb]

They might not keep Golding after the playoffs.

Yes they will. He's the guy.

[AlSwearengen]

[QUOTE=ScooterDog;1685144]They might not keep Golding after the playoffs.[/QUOTE

Richard Cross was on head to head or whatever they call the show now a couple months going on and on about Golding's potential as a head coach. That should tell you that olemiss was looking at him as a possiblity in case lane bolted. Now, I think they would have rather hired Goelish and the tulane guy ahead of Golding but Kiffin screwed them up on those two and they took other jobs. And Golding is known as a good recruiter; at olemiss that gets you 90% inside the door.

[Todd4State]

[QUOTE=ScooterDog;1685144]They might not keep Golding after the playoffs.[/QUOTE

Richard Cross was on head to head or whatever they call the show now a couple months going on and on about Golding's potential as a head coach. That should tell you that olemiss was looking at him as a possiblity in case lane bolted. Now, I think they would have rather hired Goelish and the tulane guy ahead of Golding but Kiffin screwed them up on those two and they took other jobs. And Golding is known as a good recruiter; at olemiss that gets you 90% inside the door.

If he wins the Egg Bowl he'll be there until at least 2028

[EdwardDrayton]

Yes they will. He's the guy.

Well, they've made him the guy. We'll see if he IS the guy. *****