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[Coach34]

I'm seeing hints of State fans trying to spread around that Shapen is going to play the 1st series and then we are going to hand the reigns off to KT in the Egg Bowl. I'm here to tell you now that is the biggest bunch of bullshit that could be out there. Thats not how its going to play out.

Do I think KT plays more this week than previous weeks? 100% I do. He has experience now and we had almost 2 weeks to get prepared to play this game. I wholeheartedly believe that we will have a good offensive gameplan and play pretty well on that side of the ball depending how healthy we are on the OL. But to think that Lebby is about to bench the guy he believes gives us the best chance to win on Friday? **** no he is not doing that. That's not how coaches do things and thats not how teams work.

We will score points. We got worked by Mizzou in the trenches badly and still scored 27 points. The extra time by each defensive coach plus the emotion of the game will be a huge factor tho. My biggest concern? How does Hutzler find a way to slow their running game when we dont have the Jimmies and Joes to do it? U can scheme a little early on to give them fits and slow them down early. How will we fare once they have adjusted to our gameplan. That will decide the game

I'll be there watching, cheering, and hoping. HailState

[HoopsDawg]

I was impressed with Hutzlers plan last year in the Egg Bowl. If we play similar, we will win. Our offense will move the ball.

[confucius say]

I think the gameplan will be very similar to last year. A lot of 3 down front with 3 deep safeties. Clog the interior and spill everything to the edges.

We did a great job against their run last year. The one time they gashed us, 2 missed a tackle in the hole at the line of scrimmage. We have to tackle Friday.

[Homedawg]

Ole Miss' biggest weakness in defense is their secondary. We have to have chunk plays in the passing game. Not saying we don't need to be able to run it. But big passing plays are only chance. KT is the future. But he's not the answer to me to be 60 mins tomorrow. Spot play yes. More than we have. Probably. We have a shot, IF we can slow the run. Now that's the problem.

[parabrave]

Ole Miss' biggest weakness in defense is their secondary. We have to have chunk plays in the passing game. Not saying we don't need to be able to run it. But big passing plays are only chance. KT is the future. But he's not the answer to me to be 60 mins tomorrow. Spot play yes. More than we have. Probably. We have a shot, IF we can slow the run. Now that's the problem.

And you can bet your shiny metal ass they will load the box, bullrush out LT and give them the QB take. They have watched films and also postgame pressors to see how Leb thinks to come up with a gameplan.

[Todd4State]

I'm seeing hints of State fans trying to spread around that Shapen is going to play the 1st series and then we are going to hand the reigns off to KT in the Egg Bowl. I'm here to tell you now that is the biggest bunch of bullshit that could be out there. Thats not how its going to play out.

Do I think KT plays more this week than previous weeks? 100% I do. He has experience now and we had almost 2 weeks to get prepared to play this game. I wholeheartedly believe that we will have a good offensive gameplan and play pretty well on that side of the ball depending how healthy we are on the OL. But to think that Lebby is about to bench the guy he believes gives us the best chance to win on Friday? **** no he is not doing that. That's not how coaches do things and thats not how teams work.

We will score points. We got worked by Mizzou in the trenches badly and still scored 27 points. The extra time by each defensive coach plus the emotion of the game will be a huge factor tho. My biggest concern? How does Hutzler find a way to slow their running game when we dont have the Jimmies and Joes to do it? U can scheme a little early on to give them fits and slow them down early. How will we fare once they have adjusted to our gameplan. That will decide the game

I'll be there watching, cheering, and hoping. HailState

Preach.

Yeah. I think a lot of that is fanboys hoping it will happen but I don't know why they do that to themselves.

Shapen and KT are both going to play based on the situation. That's how Lebby is going to handle it. Barring an injury to Shapen of course or something like that.

Not to mention it is senior day. You're not going to bench your QB who has been sacked 40+ times just out of the blue like that just so you can make some MSU fans on Twitter happy.

[Todd4State]

I think the gameplan will be very similar to last year. A lot of 3 down front with 3 deep safeties. Clog the interior and spill everything to the edges.

We did a great job against their run last year. The one time they gashed us, 2 missed a tackle in the hole at the line of scrimmage. We have to tackle Friday.

Yeah. And the thing is Isaac will be playing in this game. He should help and we're going to need it.

[Todd4State]

And you can bet your shiny metal ass they will load the box, bullrush out LT and give them the QB take. They have watched films and also postgame pressors to see how Leb thinks to come up with a gameplan.

And Reese will help with this some.

[parabrave]

And Reese will help with this some.

He is on the right side and it takes more than one man to block. Plus he played the last game if I'm not mistaken.

[Todd4State]

He is on the right side and it takes more than one man to block. Plus he played the last game if I'm not mistaken.

Correct on all accounts but he definitely stabilizes the line as much as it can be. Without him the line is noticeably worse.

[Dawgface]

Oh I’m sure Shapen plays the majority of the game. No reason to think Lebby will do much different in this game.

[basedog]

Ole Miss' biggest weakness in defense is their secondary. We have to have chunk plays in the passing game. Not saying we don't need to be able to run it. But big passing plays are only chance. KT is the future. But he's not the answer to me to be 60 mins tomorrow. Spot play yes. More than we have. Probably. We have a shot, IF we can slow the run. Now that's the problem.

Yep, I hope we get off to a fast start. What bothers me is our lack of depth with a shortage of talent, not a good fit especially going into the fourth quarter.

[Coursesuper]

I'm seeing hints of State fans trying to spread around that Shapen is going to play the 1st series and then we are going to hand the reigns off to KT in the Egg Bowl. I'm here to tell you now that is the biggest bunch of bullshit that could be out there. Thats not how its going to play out.

Do I think KT plays more this week than previous weeks? 100% I do. He has experience now and we had almost 2 weeks to get prepared to play this game. I wholeheartedly believe that we will have a good offensive gameplan and play pretty well on that side of the ball depending how healthy we are on the OL. But to think that Lebby is about to bench the guy he believes gives us the best chance to win on Friday? **** no he is not doing that. That's not how coaches do things and thats not how teams work.

We will score points. We got worked by Mizzou in the trenches badly and still scored 27 points. The extra time by each defensive coach plus the emotion of the game will be a huge factor tho. My biggest concern? How does Hutzler find a way to slow their running game when we dont have the Jimmies and Joes to do it? U can scheme a little early on to give them fits and slow them down early. How will we fare once they have adjusted to our gameplan. That will decide the game

I'll be there watching, cheering, and hoping. HailState

All truths.,

[Leeshouldveflanked]

I have zero confidence that this will be a competitive game.

[basedog]

A couple of things about Shapen:
1) I just have a hunch he may play well for his last game, he will be motivated.
2) He has survived the season with many predicting before the season he can't stay healthy.
3) He plays hard and wants to win, no doubt he is a leader.
Lastly, I wish/hope he plays his best game ever and we win. If so, I think it would be our best Egg Bowl victory ever also because of their rankings.

Hell, the Village People ED posters might break out in the YMCA dance, LOL!

[parabrave]

A couple of things about Shapen:
1) I just have a hunch he may play well for his last game, he will be motivated.
2) He has survived the season with many predicting before the season he can't stay healthy.
3) He plays hard and wants to win, no doubt he is a leader.
Lastly, I wish/hope he plays his best game ever and we win. If so, I think it would be our best Egg Bowl victory ever also because of their rankings.

Hell, the Village People ED posters might break out in the YMCA dance, LOL!

Very good points but it all depends on the Oline giving him time and opening holes and him not trying to be the leading rusher. Remember what Leb said last week we take what the D gives us. BTW the most laziest quote I ever heard. If one of my LTs or NCOs ever said that I'd relieve their ass.

[confucius say]

There are things we can do to help our LT on shot plays. Need to do it tomorrow. Even if it reduces the play to a 3 man or even 2 man route.

[basedog]

Very good points but it all depends on the Oline giving him time and opening holes and him not trying to be the leading rusher. Remember what Leb said last week we take what the D gives us. BTW the most laziest quote I ever heard. If one of my LTs or NCOs ever said that I'd relieve their ass.

Let's just hope we hit a few homerun plays for scores. I will say our LT is probably one of the worse I have seen play at Msu. Let's hope Shapen gets rid of the ball in time Friday. If we had a better replacement for out LT I think we would have seen him play. Lack og depth has been a killer with many injuries this year also.

Man the press conference will be a killer for Kiffin with questioning him to stay or go after the game tomorrow.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I think we are going to see a lot more of Kamario just from the things I have heard from people inside the walls. Lebby and Co have watched some OM film every Sunday this year to get tendencies. We know the two things they struggle with are mobile QBs and the intermediate to deep routes in the secondary. Kamario will be asked to pass some when he is in the game. Shapen is going to play. He is a senior and we are not going to bench a senior on Senior Day, see Dan Mullen 2009 with Tyson Lee.

[parabrave]

Let's just hope we hit a few homerun plays for scores. I will say our LT is probably one of the worse I have seen play at Msu. Let's hope Shapen gets rid of the ball in time Friday. If we had a better replacement for out LT I think we would have seen him play. Lack og depth has been a killer with many injuries this year also.

Man the press conference will be a killer for Kiffin with questioning him to stay or go after the game tomorrow.

I believe Hev would've done alot better with that Line. But that's the problem with the RPO. The Oline gots to be ready to block for something that they might not know what is happening behind them. I remember the OLine being confused when Moorhead installed the RPO, well that and being in the Stance for 25 seconds.

[basedog]

Hev was one of our best OL coaches ever! Yes, he would have been a huge help.

[maroonmania]

I agree, Lebby has hitched his wagon to Shapen and Hutzler and will go down on the ship with them. On the surface, at least to me, it appears personal relationships are much more important to Lebby than actually trying to win games. Of course that was proven right off the bat with the hiring of Hutzler. No other SEC program would have even given Hutzler an interview as their DC much less have actually given him the job AND a 3 year contract. Absolutely laughable.

[parabrave]

BTW Booth not playing in the 1st half.

[KOdawg1]

This game will come down to if our defense can successfully bend but not break.

Because they're going to get yards. We aren't "stopping" their run game. It's one of the best in the country and we're one of the worst at stopping the run. But if we can get stops in the redzone and force FGs instead of allowing TDs, we've got a shot.

Of course, it wouldn't hurt to force a turnover or two..

[AROB44]

I agree, Lebby has hitched his wagon to Shapen and Hutzler and will go down on the ship with them. On the surface, at least to me, it appears personal relationships are much more important to Lebby than actually trying to win games. Of course that was proven right off the bat with the hiring of Hutzler. No other SEC program would have even given Hutzler an interview as their DC much less have actually given him the job AND a 3 year contract. Absolutely laughable.

Total hogwash....

[parabrave]

This game will come down to if our defense can successfully bend but not break.

Because they're going to get yards. We aren't "stopping" their run game. It's one of the best in the country and we're one of the worst at stopping the run. But if we can get stops in the redzone and force FGs instead of allowing TDs, we've got a shot.

Of course, it wouldn't hurt to force a turnover or two..

Or LK goes full idiot and change whats working in the middle of the game. Hey he has done it before costing his team sure victory

[R2Dawg]

I'm seeing hints of State fans trying to spread around that Shapen is going to play the 1st series and then we are going to hand the reigns off to KT in the Egg Bowl. I'm here to tell you now that is the biggest bunch of bullshit that could be out there. Thats not how its going to play out.

Do I think KT plays more this week than previous weeks? 100% I do. He has experience now and we had almost 2 weeks to get prepared to play this game. I wholeheartedly believe that we will have a good offensive gameplan and play pretty well on that side of the ball depending how healthy we are on the OL. But to think that Lebby is about to bench the guy he believes gives us the best chance to win on Friday? **** no he is not doing that. That's not how coaches do things and thats not how teams work.

We will score points. We got worked by Mizzou in the trenches badly and still scored 27 points. The extra time by each defensive coach plus the emotion of the game will be a huge factor tho. My biggest concern? How does Hutzler find a way to slow their running game when we dont have the Jimmies and Joes to do it? U can scheme a little early on to give them fits and slow them down early. How will we fare once they have adjusted to our gameplan. That will decide the game

I'll be there watching, cheering, and hoping. HailState

I agree that is likely how it plays out but dude give it a rest. Some fans can hope, dream, etc. We don't have much hope anyway. Why do our fans want to poopoo on our own?

Fact is none of us know how this is going to play out. All fans have opinions; not sure why that bothers some.

[Coursesuper]

I agree, Lebby has hitched his wagon to Shapen and Hutzler and will go down on the ship with them. On the surface, at least to me, it appears personal relationships are much more important to Lebby than actually trying to win games. Of course that was proven right off the bat with the hiring of Hutzler. No other SEC program would have even given Hutzler an interview as their DC much less have actually given him the job AND a 3 year contract. Absolutely laughable.

Tell me what we are doing wrong schematically? I see us getting beat at the point of attack, but we are where we’re supposed to be more often than not.

[maroonmania]

Tell me what we are doing wrong schematically? I see us getting beat at the point of attack, but we are where we’re supposed to be more often than not.

Hey, if you guys are satisfied with a G5 level coaching g staff, knock yourself out. Having an unknown as DC is one of our issues attracting high level defensive transfers. Does anyone dispute the fact that no other SEC program would have given Hutzler the time of day in consideration for their DC position?

[Coursesuper]

Hey, if you guys are satisfied with a G5 level coaching g staff, knock yourself out. Having an unknown as DC is one of our issues attracting high level defensive transfers. Does anyone dispute the fact that no other SEC program would have given Hutzler the time of day in consideration for their DC position?

Where did I say anything like that? I asked you to tell me where we can coach it up better schematically? Everything else is just conjecture. We don’t know how any of that really shakes out. But please tell me what we need to do better to put players in position to succeed on the defensive side the ball?

[maroonmania]

Where did I say anything like that? I asked you to tell me where we can coach it up better schematically? Everything else is just conjecture. We don’t know how any of that really shakes out. But please tell me what we need to do better to put players in position to succeed on the defensive side the ball?

Hey, I don't claim to be a defensive schematic guru but I do know when a guy's resume doesn't stack up to what most SEC DCs would have. But if we want to talk schematics, when you have guys running you over like Skattebo last year and Hardy this year, how about selling out a little more to stop the run with more than 5 or even 6 in the box? Especially when you are playing against a true freshman QB like we had at Missouri. It was embarrassing that we KNEW Missouri couldn't throw the ball to any degree but were still getting bulldozed by their running game.

[Brobi-wan]

Hey, I don't claim to be a defensive schematic guru but I do know when a guy's resume doesn't stack up to what most SEC DCs would have. But if we want to talk schematics, when you have guys running you over like Skattebo last year and Hardy this year, how about selling out a little more to stop the run with more than 5 or even 6 in the box? Especially when you are playing against a true freshman QB like we had at Missouri. It was embarrassing that we KNEW Missouri couldn't throw the ball to any degree but were still getting bulldozed by their running game.

We are stacking the box in packages and still losing. I’m not defending Hutzler, but it’s blatantly obvious that our issue is not a scheme issue. It’s a line issue. Every group on D, outside the line, is vastly improved and has performed well enough this year. You’re sick of losing, it’s cool. I am too, but I also think it’s important to address the real issues. Hutzler was a good enough recruiter to improve all three levels of our D. Our lack of depth and injury hurt us more than his coaching. If you think a guy that coached under Saban is the biggest issue, I’ve got some ocean front property in AZ for you.

[Maroon Glasses]

Hey, I don't claim to be a defensive schematic guru but I do know when a guy's resume doesn't stack up to what most SEC DCs would have. But if we want to talk schematics, when you have guys running you over like Skattebo last year and Hardy this year, how about selling out a little more to stop the run with more than 5 or even 6 in the box? Especially when you are playing against a true freshman QB like we had at Missouri. It was embarrassing that we KNEW Missouri couldn't throw the ball to any degree but were still getting bulldozed by their running game.

Yeah man, I get where you're coming from. Alot of it is just flat out nit being talented enough against opponents. Last year we had a ton of broken plays where coverage would get blown or a guy wouldn't fill a gap and we would give up 50+ yard plays. This year hasn't been that bad. I honestly can't think of a really big busted coverage play or anything like that for this year but I'm sure it's happened. It's mainly a talent issue which does fall on Hutzler. As you said, it's tough to get talent to come play for someone who doesn't have a DC background. This year is way better tho than last year so if he stays on staff maybe he can recruit better since guys have seen improvement. Also... money.

[Coursesuper]

Hey, I don't claim to be a defensive schematic guru but I do know when a guy's resume doesn't stack up to what most SEC DCs would have. But if we want to talk schematics, when you have guys running you over like Skattebo last year and Hardy this year, how about selling out a little more to stop the run with more than 5 or even 6 in the box? Especially when you are playing against a true freshman QB like we had at Missouri. It was embarrassing that we KNEW Missouri couldn't throw the ball to any degree but were still getting bulldozed by their running game.

I don’t like losing either, but if you had a minimal grasp of how it works you would be able to see the fallacies in your argument. It’s not a simple as you’re trying to make it.

[1eyedog]

Years ago the DOGS played west virginia I think, They absolutely ripped our 3 man front apart for 1 1/2 quarters. The def cord finally switched to a 4 man front and it completed slowed/stopped their off attack.....I know it’s probably not that simple.......I have always HATED a 3 man front.....

[Maroon Glasses]

Years ago the DOGS played west virginia I think, They absolutely ripped our 3 man front apart for 1 1/2 quarters. The def cord finally switched to a 4 man front and it completed slowed/stopped their off attack.....I know it’s probably not that simple.......I have always HATED a 3 man front.....

I hate a 3 man front too man. Absolutely can't stand it. I get it puts more speed and athletism on the field but I'm just not a fan. It looks like you can run for 400+.

[maroonmania]

I don’t like losing either, but if you had a minimal grasp of how it works you would be able to see the fallacies in your argument. It’s not a simple as you’re trying to make it.

Good grief, minimal grasp of how it works my ass. I will agree that Hutzler has improved from last year but he is still not a good DC and is doing OJT. The 2 analysts we hired this year have helped him a good bit. I mean at least we seem to be lining up correctly now. But bottom line, I doubt anyone on this board had ever even heard of Hutzler until Lebby hired him. I'm done on the topic though, apparently you experts on this board are fully satisfied with the job he's doing including his wonderful recruiting job so I will leave it alone. But finally, for those wanting to blame it all on personnel, Hutzler is not just responsible for defensive calls, he also has a lot of responsibility relative to the defensive personnel we have at this point. He was sold to us as some excellent recruiter but its obvious he isn't. Our transfers on offense have been much more significant over the past 2 seasons than the ones we've gotten on defense.

[Coach34]

Hey, if you guys are satisfied with a G5 level coaching g staff, knock yourself out. Having an unknown as DC is one of our issues attracting high level defensive transfers. Does anyone dispute the fact that no other SEC program would have given Hutzler the time of day in consideration for their DC position?

Saban highly recommended Hutzler. I think he knows me than you. Scheme-wise, we aren?t doing anything wrong. Donate so we can get more Jimmies in the trenches

[Coach34]

I hate a 3 man front too man. Absolutely can't stand it. I get it puts more speed and athletism on the field but I'm just not a fan. It looks like you can run for 400+.

3 man front is twice as hard to block as a 4 man front. I wish I could go against a 4 man front every week. Way easier for the OL to be less confused and get better run fits

[Maroon Glasses]

Good grief, minimal grasp of how it works my ass. I will agree that Hutzler has improved from last year but he is still not a good DC and is doing OJT. The 2 analysts we hired this year have helped him a good bit. I mean at least we seem to be lining up correctly now. But bottom line, I doubt anyone on this board had ever even heard of Hutzler until Lebby hired him. I'm done on the topic though, apparently you experts on this board are fully satisfied with the job he's doing including his wonderful recruiting job so I will leave it alone. But finally, for those wanting to blame it all on personnel, Hutzler is not just responsible for defensive calls, he also has a lot of responsibility relative to the defensive personnel we have at this point. He was sold to us as some excellent recruiter but its obvious he isn't. Our transfers on offense have been much more significant over the past 2 seasons than the ones we've gotten on defense.

Nobody here said that he isn't for blame. Actually every poster responding to you said they was not taking up for Hutlzer. I also said Hutzler is at fault for defensive recruiting but that is to an extent due to money. Everything you just said has been covered or mentioned in the last few posts on here. Not sure why you've decided to get so defensive due to explaining it's more due to lack of talent than scheme.

Talent is still the major issue. And like mentioned previously, that falls on Hutzler to an extent.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Find you someone that loves you like Lebby loves the all time record holder for pick 6s in school history. With an obviously better, younger player watching and getting told by everyone to transfer. But then again, we are the same bunch that hated Leach and his teams cause they won in a way we did not enjoy

[Coach34]

Let’s not forget our best DL guy who was projected to be 3rd round or higher tore his ACL in what- Game 1 or was G2?

[BuckyIsAB****]

I agree that is likely how it plays out but dude give it a rest. Some fans can hope, dream, etc. We don't have much hope anyway. Why do our fans want to poopoo on our own?

Fact is none of us know how this is going to play out. All fans have opinions; not sure why that bothers some.
Yea I dont get it. All yall are stupid and im smart, my opinion is better than yours. Death to the airbone!!! Give me Arnett or give me death!!

[BuckyIsAB****]

Let’s not forget our best DL guy who was projected to be 3rd round or higher tore his ACL in what- Game 1 or was G2?

That costed us Texas Tennessee and Florida?

[RisperDawg]

Let’s not forget our best DL guy who was projected to be 3rd round or higher tore his ACL in what- Game 1 or was G2?

It was week 2. You could see the immediate difference due to his absence in the second half versus ASU.

[maroonmania]

3 man front is twice as hard to block as a 4 man front. I wish I could go against a 4 man front every week. Way easier for the OL to be less confused and get better run fits

Another highly satisfied customer. So let's just keep on keeping on with Hutzler and staff on defense. And I do donate, but apparently most donations are going to offensive transfers. Have much better results on that side of the ball. And what would Saban know about what kind of DC Hutzler would be? He had never been a DC before under Saban or anyone else. He would just be guessing since there was no track record.

[Todd4State]

Another highly satisfied customer. So let's just keep on keeping on with Hutzler and staff on defense. And I do donate, but apparently most donations are going to offensive transfers. Have much better results on that side of the ball. And what would Saban know about what kind of DC Hutzler would be? He had never been a DC before under Saban or anyone else. He would just be guessing since there was no track record.

I think Hutzler should be fired.

But I'm also fine with the 3 man front. We just don't have a ton of talent and trying to put pressure on the other team with guys that can't get a pass rush what else is he supposed to do?

[Coach34]

I’m with Lebby whether he keeps him or fire him. The defense plays hard. We are fine with the scheme. But when your DL is getting mauled- it’s a talent issue.

Now if we can get a new DC that gets better players in the trenches- hey let’s do it

[Coach34]

That costed us Texas Tennessee and Florida?

Yes. A better DL would have helped the outcomes of those games

[bulldawg28]

I'm seeing hints of State fans trying to spread around that Shapen is going to play the 1st series and then we are going to hand the reigns off to KT in the Egg Bowl. I'm here to tell you now that is the biggest bunch of bullshit that could be out there. Thats not how its going to play out.

Do I think KT plays more this week than previous weeks? 100% I do. He has experience now and we had almost 2 weeks to get prepared to play this game. I wholeheartedly believe that we will have a good offensive gameplan and play pretty well on that side of the ball depending how healthy we are on the OL. But to think that Lebby is about to bench the guy he believes gives us the best chance to win on Friday? **** no he is not doing that. That's not how coaches do things and thats not how teams work.

We will score points. We got worked by Mizzou in the trenches badly and still scored 27 points. The extra time by each defensive coach plus the emotion of the game will be a huge factor tho. My biggest concern? How does Hutzler find a way to slow their running game when we dont have the Jimmies and Joes to do it? U can scheme a little early on to give them fits and slow them down early. How will we fare once they have adjusted to our gameplan. That will decide the game

I'll be there watching, cheering, and hoping. HailState

I agree. Unless Shapen gets injured I expect he'll play 75% of the snaps which doesn't hide well especially with the crowd. He'll try to put on his superman 🦸*♂️ coat.

[msstate7]

Yes. A better DL would have helped the outcomes of those games

You could say the same thing about better coaching decisions

[msstate7]

I agree. Unless Shapen gets injured I expect he'll play 75% of the snaps which doesn't hide well especially with the crowd. He'll try to put on his superman 🦸*♂️ coat.

He definitely tries to 1-up KT after KT does something positive. If KT gets a good run, Shapen tries to get a good run.

[JimBobDawg]

Let’s not forget our best DL guy who was projected to be 3rd round or higher tore his ACL in what- Game 1 or was G2?
I believe it was G2.

[Coach34]

Welllllllll- it appears Shapen is not 100 afterall

We may get the surprise many are hoping for today afterall

[BankerDog]

Yea I dont get it. All yall are stupid and im smart, my opinion is better than yours. Death to the airbone!!! Give me Arnett or give me death!!

You loved Arnett?called him ?one of us?

You?re also the one who said PJ Woodland was not a SEC player and we also saw how that has turned out.

[MrCoachKlein]

Hadad is usually on point with his opinions, but the KT schtick Robbie and him are stuck on is dumb. Shapen isn't perfect, but he gives us the best chance to win.

[Maverick91]

Welllllllll- it appears Shapen is not 100 afterall

We may get the surprise many are hoping for today afterall

So KT starting?

[bulldawg28]

This thread was wrong KT is starting

[smootness]

I'm seeing hints of State fans trying to spread around that Shapen is going to play the 1st series and then we are going to hand the reigns off to KT in the Egg Bowl. I'm here to tell you now that is the biggest bunch of bullshit that could be out there. Thats not how its going to play out.

Do I think KT plays more this week than previous weeks? 100% I do. He has experience now and we had almost 2 weeks to get prepared to play this game. I wholeheartedly believe that we will have a good offensive gameplan and play pretty well on that side of the ball depending how healthy we are on the OL. But to think that Lebby is about to bench the guy he believes gives us the best chance to win on Friday? **** no he is not doing that. That's not how coaches do things and thats not how teams work.

We will score points. We got worked by Mizzou in the trenches badly and still scored 27 points. The extra time by each defensive coach plus the emotion of the game will be a huge factor tho. My biggest concern? How does Hutzler find a way to slow their running game when we dont have the Jimmies and Joes to do it? U can scheme a little early on to give them fits and slow them down early. How will we fare once they have adjusted to our gameplan. That will decide the game

I'll be there watching, cheering, and hoping. HailState

Ooooops

[Activated Alpha]

Well if this isn?t picture perfect of if I don?t know what the **** I?m talking about

[R2Dawg]

KT starts. Crow taste good coach.

[SPMT]

Welllllllll- it appears Shapen is not 100 afterall

We may get the surprise many are hoping for today afterall

Eat your crow. Shapen is fine. He?s just not the best solution so far. I expect him to play unless Taylor has a series of mistakes.

[BigDawg81]

Delete your account

[maroonmania]

I think Hutzler should be fired.



If we keep this defensive staff intact I will seriously question if I should be donating anything to this program. Plenty of other ways to throw my money away if we aren't serious about improving things.

[cheewgumm]

Welllllllll- it appears Shapen is not 100 afterall

We may get the surprise many are hoping for today afterall

Hahaha

[SaintDawg]

Here’s some reality for you: The football program at State is finished. It matters not who the coach is or who the AD is or who the school president is. Spend money = you win; Dont spend money = you lose. I’ll put my support behind real and intelligent atheletes. Baseball players. Football and basketball is nothing but a bunch of money-hungry, crybaby, prima donnas with their hands out saying “gimme gimme gimme”

[DawgFromOxford]

Here’s some reality for you: The football program at State is finished. It matters not who the coach is or who the AD is or who the school president is. Spend money = you win; Dont spend money = you lose. I’ll put my support behind real and intelligent atheletes. Baseball players. Football and basketball is nothing but a bunch of money-hungry, crybaby, prima donnas with their hands out saying “gimme gimme gimme”

1. We need football to find baseball.
2. If you think baseball players aren?t money-hungry, crybaby, prima Donna?s, do I have news for you.

[cheewgumm]

Amazed he?s been on the bench all season .

Just amazing.

[War Machine Dawg]

Amazed he?s been on the bench all season .

Just amazing.

Infuriating. I said after Florida we'd be better off starting KT. It's been obvious for weeks.

[R2Dawg]

Infuriating. I said after Florida we'd be better off starting KT. It's been obvious for weeks.

Yep, and we had two 5 star QBs on bench who couldn't get any snaps with struggles at QB and one showed he can get it done.

We could/should have won 8 games this year with just competent coaching.

[SaintDawg]

1. We need football to find baseball.
2. If you think baseball players aren?t money-hungry, crybaby, prima Donna?s, do I have news for you.

Then start winning football games. Baseball produces wins. That justifies the money. Baseball has a national title, a new stadium, condos with more to follow. The idea that football success begets baseball success is unfounded. Average performance in football gets rewarded with a “who gives a shit” bowl game. Until the wins come often and regular, the football program is a bunch of chumps.

[FoggyBottom]

It made absolutely no difference which qb started today. State wasn?t winning this game if Dak started.

[SPMT]

Here’s some reality for you: The football program at State is finished. It matters not who the coach is or who the AD is or who the school president is. Spend money = you win; Dont spend money = you lose. I’ll put my support behind real and intelligent atheletes. Baseball players. Football and basketball is nothing but a bunch of money-hungry, crybaby, prima donnas with their hands out saying “gimme gimme gimme”

People don?t trust who is putting the money to work imo.

[EdwardDrayton]

It made absolutely no difference which qb started today. State wasn?t winning this game if Dak started.

I'll take that bet. *****

[SPMT]

Here?s some reality for you: The football program at State is finished. It matters not who the coach is or who the AD is or who the school president is. Spend money = you win; Dont spend money = you lose. I?ll put my support behind real and intelligent atheletes. Baseball players. Football and basketball is nothing but a bunch of money-hungry, crybaby, prima donnas with their hands out saying ?gimme gimme gimme?


Then start winning football games. Baseball produces wins. That justifies the money. Baseball has a national title, a new stadium, condos with more to follow. The idea that football success begets baseball success is unfounded. Average performance in football gets rewarded with a ?who gives a shit? bowl game. Until the wins come often and regular, the football program is a bunch of chumps.

Agree. Why would you put money to work when it looks like shit with stupid decisions. There are many mistakes from the HC, the D looks inept and out of position/in poor calls.

What is the plan to correct that and do so quickly?

Teams don?t have to wait for the fix any longer.

Money movers want to know the answer.