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Tater
11-21-2025, 12:55 AM
That's the hot news being shared in every circle right now. Auburn angry that they missed on Sumrall.

Had multiple people swear on it. I think the Judge thing has the possibility for the greatest inside man job of all time if he can have them throw the Egg Bowl.

We'll see if it's all bullshit pretty quickly tomorrow - but I've had the two folks I trust the most with rumors tell me. And that means if it's made its way to Oklahoma circles then it's out and about. Lane is so ****in messy. Dan had the courtesy to leave us in the middle of the night.

Todd4State
11-21-2025, 12:58 AM
I know Ole Miss would want Sumrall and he would be their first choice but why would he pick them over Auburn?

And yes, I know that John Cohen is their AD.

Tater
11-21-2025, 01:09 AM
I know Ole Miss would want Sumrall and he would be their first choice but why would he pick them over Auburn?

And yes, I know that John Cohen is their AD.

Auburn is a worse football job to be at than Mississippi State or Vanderbilt. They are actually the worst job in the SEC. Championship expectations with mediocre money and complete stupidity steering the ship.

They can't compete now that everyone can pay players and Cohen doesn't know how to navigate NIL.

They've not won more than 6 games since Malzahn's penultimate year. That means 3 coaches and 6 straight years of 6 wins or less. And they are firing for unreasonable expectations not being met.

DownwardDawg
11-21-2025, 02:05 AM
Auburn is a worse football job to be at than Mississippi State or Vanderbilt. They are actually the worst job in the SEC. Championship expectations with mediocre money and complete stupidity steering the ship.

They can't compete now that everyone can pay players and Cohen doesn't know how to navigate NIL.

They've not won more than 6 games since Malzahn's penultimate year. That means 3 coaches and 6 straight years of 6 wins or less. And they are firing for unreasonable expectations not being met.

Can't argue with a word of that. Ya hate to see it! Hahaha

And again, Malzahn is a great coach. 8-4 with occasional 9 win seasons wasn't good enough for them.

Santiago
11-21-2025, 06:40 AM
That's the hot news being shared in every circle right now. Auburn angry that they missed on Sumrall.

Had multiple people swear on it. I think the Judge thing has the possibility for the greatest inside man job of all time if he can have them throw the Egg Bowl.

We'll see if it's all bullshit pretty quickly tomorrow - but I've had the two folks I trust the most with rumors tell me. And that means if it's made its way to Oklahoma circles then it's out and about. Lane is so ****in messy. Dan had the courtesy to leave us in the middle of the night.

Pretty sure Judge will want to win and big and show us what we passed over this last time around.

Santiago
11-21-2025, 06:50 AM
I think this "ole miss is a good job" will fade after Kiffin. But it shows us all that in this era of football it is just as important to have a coach that galvanizes and energizes the fan base. Winning is big, but also a connection with the fans, and money flow.

Perhaps wrong here, but a Sumrall for example will be following Kiffin, and those TSUN clowns are gonna miss their snarky tweets from their HC. I don't think the next coach gets all the leeway , and if he is only winning 7-8 games they will still be thinking they are a big program and deserve better.

The next coach has more expectations now at Ole Miss because Kiffin convinced them this is their new standard of 10+ wins every year.
It will be the new Auburn.

msstate7
11-21-2025, 06:54 AM
I read on tRant that OM has 40 million committed for nil next season. That's a big number if true

msstate7
11-21-2025, 06:56 AM
LSU goes to OM next season. Hell, I might try to go to that game... it would be lit if lane is at lsu

BeardoMSU
11-21-2025, 07:36 AM
I read on tRant that OM has 40 million committed for nil next season. That's a big number if true

Neal and Chase shot that down as rumor, fwiw.

AlSwearengen
11-21-2025, 07:48 AM
Olemiss has money but I don?t think they can sustain what they are trying to spend right now. Because they are cultish about winning at football they are overextending themselves and it looks good to potential coaches; but they will never have more money than the usual suspects, who will just up their spending to get players.

With lane, he gets grace for losing games that he shouldn?t have b/c he is so much like them and brings them attention that they crave. If you look at last year, how in the hell did they not make the playoffs with their roster and schedule? This year, they will get into the playoffs but I?ll bet if they don?t stumble upon Chambliss and had to rely on Simmons, they don?t make it.

The schedule changes next year and Lane has to be thinking about that. How long does it take the shitheads to grow tired of paying Kiffin 13M a year and not make the playoffs b/c the schedule got tougher? They are going to spend a ton but so will everyone else and lsu, bama, Georgia, texas, etc. will always be sexier picks for the players; i don?t care how charming the square is or how snarky the coach is.

Dawgface
11-21-2025, 07:52 AM
Pretty sure Judge will want to win and big and show us what we passed over this last time around.

I thought the NY Giants stepped in with an offer and he passed on us?

TrapGame
11-21-2025, 07:52 AM
Sumrall was told by Sexton the OM job will be available soon. That?s why he pulled his name from Florida. There is a lot more stability at OM than Florida or Auburn.

msstate7
11-21-2025, 07:54 AM
Neal and Chase shot that down as rumor, fwiw.

Good

BeardoMSU
11-21-2025, 07:58 AM
I think this "ole miss is a good job" will fade after Kiffin.

Agreed. He's the entire face of their program. Even his damn dog is basically their de-facto mascot. The last time they had CGD, he was thee celebrity picker! When he leaves, it will be almost impossible to replace the void he leaves behind. Not to say they will plummet back down to earth, but they will most certainly take a big step back. Who they replace him with will obviously loom large...as we know from experience how a bad hire can tank a program...

basedog
11-21-2025, 08:21 AM
Agreed. He's the entire face of their program. Even his damn dog is basically their de-facto mascot. The last time they had CGD, he was thee celebrity picker! When he leaves, it will be almost impossible to replace the void he leaves behind. Not to say they will plummet back down to earth, but they will most certainly take a big step back. Who they replace him with will obviously loom large...as we know from experience how a bad hire can tank a program...

No doubt with Kiffin leaving Ole Dixie and them replacing him want be even close to what they have done the last few years. Going to be interesting watching the meltdown, Kiffin was the best hire since Johnny Vaught. But the natives will be making excuses and the hate with Kiffin will be wild.

Pancho
11-21-2025, 08:35 AM
Neal and Chase shot that down as rumor, fwiw.

Neither of them have any contact with the 2 ole miss billionaire boosters who want a natty now. I think the ship has sailed and he callin baton rouge bur I will have to wait like everyone else.

CaptainObvious
11-21-2025, 08:48 AM
Boy am I glad State didn?t hire Kiffin! 😔😔😔

Tripp McNeely
11-21-2025, 09:03 AM
As of yesterday afternoon, Sumrall was back on Floridas radar. I think the initial "pullback" from both Sumrall and UF's side was some confidence that UF may get Kiffin. Once that pivoted to LSU, Sumrall is back in the mix at UF

basedog
11-21-2025, 09:05 AM
Just imagine IF the rumors are true about Penn State and DeBoer takes that job which I doubt but maybe the pressure want be as good and the money the same.

Tater
11-21-2025, 09:16 AM
Pretty sure Judge will want to win and big and show us what we passed over this last time around.

Wishful thinking on my part but Judge passed on us not the other way around. Him going to OM as a QB analyst is a weird benedict arnold moment. But the inside job could be fully realized.


I read on tRant that OM has 40 million committed for nil next season. That's a big number if true

That's next season. Reminds me of the Sinners movie comment by Delta Slim. "You offering $20 TO-NIGHT. They given me $10 every night." OM bags cannot sustain 40 mil every year. LSU can easily do that. Big bank take little bank and Lane knows he can't get $120 mil over 3 years committed and believe it from OM. LSU he gets $300 mil in NIL over the next 7 easily.


Sumrall was told by Sexton the OM job will be available soon. That?s why he pulled his name from Florida. There is a lot more stability at OM than Florida or Auburn.

He rightly sees them as more unstable. He wrongly sees them as jobs with 'higher expectations'. He thinks he can meet OM expectations but let me tell ya. 8-4 or worse x3 while Lane smacks them every year and especially if he loses an egg or 3 - they firing him. Hell - if he doesn't make the playoffs within 2 years the plantation will get restless.

TrapGame
11-21-2025, 09:25 AM
Just imagine IF the rumors are true about Penn State and DeBoer takes that job which I doubt but maybe the pressure want be as good and the money the same.

Add to that if Sark bolts to the NFL.

msstate7
11-21-2025, 09:28 AM
Add to that if Sark bolts to the NFL.

Problem with all this turnover for us is all these programs will up their spending to help the new coach. We will fall farther and farther behind.

Tater
11-21-2025, 09:37 AM
Problem with all this turnover for us is all these programs will up their spending to help the new coach. We will fall farther and farther behind.

Or or or. And hear me out. More and more Auburns will keep happening. We'll spend more to 'keep up with the joneses' and the SEC will continue to stick out above the rest. Our noncon will become all but guaranteed. (Private equity falling through for the B1G so I think we're gonna have the leg up on their lower tier). Then it's being the stable one.

Maybe folks are right and we just need money on the lines. We've got the talent at skill positions to compete. Price of the best bricks going up but we're gonna never lose to G5 and then start outcompeting most of ACC/B12 (texsa schools are the question mark there). Auburn is proof you can't spend your way out of the hole.

Coursesuper
11-21-2025, 09:41 AM
I know Ole Miss would want Sumrall and he would be their first choice but why would he pick them over Auburn?

And yes, I know that John Cohen is their AD.

Auburn is a train wreck and the confederacy has a smooth operation running. Should be an easy choice for any coach.

Coach34
11-21-2025, 09:46 AM
1 of 2 things are going to happen today/this weekend:

1. Lame is headed to BR because they have given him everything possible he could ask for. Flarda was not willing to do that. They have even told him he could bring back Ogermoron if he wants

2. Or Lame doesnt want to look like the bad guy asshole abandoning his team and decides to stay put. They will try to spin it as he was playing Fla/LSU the whole time or some other dumb shit nobody will really believe

Coursesuper
11-21-2025, 09:47 AM
Neal and Chase shot that down as rumor, fwiw.

Yeah they don?t have TX $$$ but they do have a well oiled smooth running machine and that is more than half of the battle. And let?s not pretend they aren?t very well funded.

msstate7
11-21-2025, 09:48 AM
1 of 2 things are going to happen today/this weekend:

1. Lame is headed to BR because they have given him everything possible he could ask for. Flarda was not willing to do that. They have even told him he could bring back Ogermoron if he wants

2. Or Lame doesnt want to look like the bad guy asshole abandoning his team and decides to stay put. They will try to spin it as he was playing Fla/LSU the whole time or some other dumb shit nobody will really believe

Lane is gonna be hated big time in Oxford if he leaves. Wonder how his son playing qb still affects his decision. If he loses Friday, it would make bolting easier.

StarkVegasSteve
11-21-2025, 09:53 AM
LSU goes to OM next season. Hell, I might try to go to that game... it would be lit if lane is at lsu

I told someone yesterday I want to be there for that one. That will make that OM/Tennessee game in 2021 look like an MAIS rivalry. It will take toxic to another level.

was21
11-21-2025, 10:21 AM
H did

99jc
11-21-2025, 10:41 AM
I absolutely love this coaching turmoil especially when it doesn't involve us!

RezDog7
11-21-2025, 03:25 PM
I absolutely love this coaching turmoil especially when it doesn't involve us!
Yet

Tater
11-21-2025, 03:33 PM
Major movement in betting markets towards Kiffin to LSU. Apparently some LSU on3 known insider called it. Haven't heard any different numbers or new information myself.

basedog
11-21-2025, 04:11 PM
All this coaching stuff moving around has no effect with Msu, if anything it helps mainly because many coaches will be overpaid and IF they don't produce will be fired quickly. Btw, we are going to get a huge amount from an alumnus to our athletic department. Now when is the question, hopefully in the coming months.

1eyedog
11-21-2025, 09:34 PM
2." Or Lame doesnt want to look like the bad guy asshole abandoning his team and decides to stay put. They will try to spin it as he was playing Fla/LSU the whole time or some other dumb shit nobody will really believe"

Coach, this keeps going around in my head.....”IF" by chance something weird happens and LK has to stay...........would it be kiss, make up and forget what happened or would there be lasting implications especially with several of their wins the last few years being possible losses going forward? One day the SEC teams they have beaten, Fla. LSU. Arky, Aub, Ok won?t stay down from now on. This year Arky, OK, and Fla all had late 4th qtr potential game winning drives end in turnovers.

Todd4State
11-22-2025, 12:55 AM
All this coaching stuff moving around has no effect with Msu, if anything it helps mainly because many coaches will be overpaid and IF they don't produce will be fired quickly. Btw, we are going to get a huge amount from an alumnus to our athletic department. Now when is the question, hopefully in the coming months.

With the portal it definitely affects MSU. And if we do make coaching changes the pool of candidates is going to be a lot better than before.

basedog
11-22-2025, 07:36 AM
With the portal it definitely affects MSU. And if we do make coaching changes the pool of candidates is going to be a lot better than before.

Yes, to helping us in portal. Let's hope what I was told about the gift coming to the athletic department comes thru. From what I understand it matches a gift that was given to the university earlier.

PGHBulldogBG
11-22-2025, 08:11 AM
Regardless of whether Lane stays or goes, this Egg Bowl is extremely important for State. We absolutely need to find a way to win this game for Lebby and the program.

msstate7
11-22-2025, 08:20 AM
Regardless of whether Lane stays or goes, this Egg Bowl is extremely important for State. We absolutely need to find a way to win this game for Lebby and the program.

Absolutely. It's still a long shot for us to win, but our chances have gone up tremendously with the lane drama.

DLGDawg
11-22-2025, 09:39 AM
Absolutely. It's still a long shot for us to win, but our chances have gone up tremendously with the lane drama.

Tremendous amount of pressure on OM to win. Biggest regular season game in OM history according to some their fans. We'll see how they handle that pressure.

If we come with the energy like we had UT, Florida etc, we'll have a real shot at winning.

schddog72
11-22-2025, 06:48 PM
I thought the NY Giants stepped in with an offer and he passed on us?

This is correct.

Coach34
11-22-2025, 08:18 PM
If we come with the energy like we had UT, Florida etc, we'll have a real shot at winning.

Unless we find a way to slow down the run game- we have no chance to win

parabrave
11-22-2025, 08:28 PM
Rhule signs his extension and is currently getting blown out by Penn State. Glad Tulane covered to save my ass. Tenn is covering big.

EdwardDrayton
11-22-2025, 08:49 PM
Rhule signs his extension and is currently getting blown out by Penn State. Glad Tulane covered to save my ass. Tenn is covering big.

Florida has 22 total yards. Oof.

EdwardDrayton
11-22-2025, 08:50 PM
Unless we find a way to slow down the run game- we have no chance to win

Yeah. Just like if we had against Mizzou. <sigh>

Todd4State
11-22-2025, 08:55 PM
Unless we find a way to slow down the run game- we have no chance to win

This is my biggest concern about the Egg Bowl.

Maroon Glasses
11-22-2025, 10:12 PM
This is my biggest concern about the Egg Bowl.

Same.. OM might run for 301+.

parabrave
11-22-2025, 10:34 PM
Florida has 22 total yards. Oof.

Thats more than LSU has.

EdwardDrayton
11-22-2025, 10:57 PM
Thats more than LSU has.

They're both striving for ineffectual.

Brobi-wan
11-22-2025, 11:35 PM
Thats more than LSU has.

Remember when people said MVB would be better than Shapen this year

Todd4State
11-22-2025, 11:40 PM
Remember when people said MVB would be better than Shapen this year

I remember!

Pretty sure he set the SEC record for delay of games at MSU.

DownwardDawg
11-22-2025, 11:43 PM
Remember when people said MVB would be better than Shapen this year

He's terrible. He won 1 game here. 1
And people lost their minds about him leaving. I told my LSU buddies that if he becomes their starting QB, that means their season has been shit. Well............

Todd4State
11-22-2025, 11:44 PM
He's terrible. He won 1 game here. 1
And people lost their minds about him leaving. I told my LSU buddies that if he becomes their starting QB, that means their season has been shit. Well............

Good call!

DownwardDawg
11-22-2025, 11:46 PM
Good call!

Like I tell the folks that work for me, I'm not smart, I'm just old. I've seen some shit. Lol

The Federalist Engineer
11-23-2025, 01:06 AM
I know Ole Miss would want Sumrall and he would be their first choice but why would he pick them over Auburn?

And yes, I know that John Cohen is their AD.

Post-LK OM is in good shape and seems they could put huge money into NIL. Rumor is that OM assembled $40M for Football to keep LK in Oxford.

You meet John and Nelle Cohen, you walk away. Maybe a goober like Drinkwitz will like Cohen.

Maroonthirteen
11-23-2025, 08:01 AM
I thought the NY Giants stepped in with an offer and he passed on us?

After 2019, Judge was going to be the coach but the Giants offered him their job.

In 2023, we fire Arnett and Judge was fired by the Giants in 21. Judge was on campus for a game that season after Arnett was fired. The rumor was Judge interviewed for the job in the cycle that Lebby was hired. I have no idea if Judge did interview, but that is what I was told.

Goldendawg
11-23-2025, 10:12 AM
Judge had never been a HC at the college level, or any level it appears, before getting the Giants job (.303 winning % over two years as HC there). He got the job as a member of the New England Patriots coaching tree. He is the Giants let's hire an unprepared Asst Coach to be our HC philosophy that our "powers to be" at State have followed since at least Charlie Shira(16-45-2. 1967 through 1972), and then we promoted him to AD!

EdwardDrayton
11-23-2025, 10:31 AM
Like I tell the folks that work for me, I'm not smart, I'm just old. I've seen some shit. Lol

I resemble this remark!!

Todd4State
11-23-2025, 12:48 PM
After 2019, Judge was going to be the coach but the Giants offered him their job.

In 2023, we fire Arnett and Judge was fired by the Giants in 21. Judge was on campus for a game that season after Arnett was fired. The rumor was Judge interviewed for the job in the cycle that Lebby was hired. I have no idea if Judge did interview, but that is what I was told.

I wouldn't have hired him either if I were MSU. He has zero college head coaching experience and his NFL head coaching was really bad. Now, that doesn't mean he would be a bad college head coach but it does mean there is more risk there and that's why I want him to take a job like Tulane if it opens up.

If he does well wherever he goes then I would be fine with hiring him.

I like him and I think he might do well in college but I'm also on the fence about him too.

I do like that he has been under Kiffin and Saban. Being under Kiffin means he wouldn't drastically change the offense to where we have to have a major overhaul of the roster like we did when Leach passed away.