Malzahn

[BuckyIsAB****]

Give Malzahn KT and let him bring in Ron Roberts or (anyone other than what we have) after UF cleans house and we win 8 next year

[StarkVegasSteve]

Give Malzahn KT and let him bring in Ron Roberts or (anyone other than what we have) after UF cleans house and we win 8 next year

Gus does not want to be a HC anymore. He is done with it. Has told a bunch of people that. His wife also has no desire to live in Starkville.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Gus does not want to be a HC anymore. He is done with it. Has told a bunch of people that. His wife also has no desire to live in Starkville.

Yea. Money talks too. People hate on Bo bounds but he normally says what he is told to say, and he is ripping the AD and HC apart. There is smoke

[BuckyIsAB****]

We can do better than what we have. Huff would be an improvement over this. Compare Lebbro and Crooms tenures so far. And you can?t say one took over a train wreck, cause it was both train wrecks

[CadaverDawg]

Yeah I'd take Charles Huff right now. And we could get him.

So we won't do that, too easy and obvious.

Instead we'd be more likely to do a big "national search", only to miss on every exciting name and end up hiring Blake Anderson as head coach despite their actual head coach wanting our job. That's how we operate

[msstate7]

Yeah I'd take Charles Huff right now. And we could get him.

So we won't do that, too easy and obvious.

Instead we'd be more likely to do a big "national search", only to miss on every exciting name and end up hiring Blake Anderson as head coach despite their actual head coach wanting our job. That's how we operate

^^^

[StarkVegasSteve]

Yea. Money talks too. People hate on Bo bounds but he normally says what he is told to say, and he is ripping the AD and HC apart. There is smoke

There is no smoke. Bo has been out in the cold since Selmon took over. Selmon is not a fan of Bo and his buddies who shilled to get Arnett the full time gig.

[BankerDog]

Yeah I'd take Charles Huff right now. And we could get him.

So we won't do that, too easy and obvious.

Instead we'd be more likely to do a big "national search", only to miss on every exciting name and end up hiring Blake Anderson as head coach despite their actual head coach wanting our job. That's how we operate

The guy who got beat 45-14 yesterday by a 3 win team? Okay

[Coursesuper]

There is no smoke. Bo has been out in the cold since Selmon took over. Selmon is not a fan of Bo and his buddies who shilled to get Arnett the full time gig.

Yup. Let?s hope that bunch is never again allowed to gain any kind of real influence. They are directly responsible for this current shitshow.

[Quaoarsking]

The guy who got beat 45-14 yesterday by a 3 win team? Okay

Yesterday wasn't his best day, but he's still 39-23 in his career as a head coach and 25-13 in conference games.

I doubt Lebby ever wins 39 games as a head coach, here or otherwise, in his entire life.

[msstate7]

Yesterday wasn't his best day, but he's still 39-23 in his career as a head coach and 25-13 in conference games.

I doubt Lebby ever wins 39 games as a head coach, here or otherwise, in his entire life.

USM was 1-11 last year, and they're 7-3 (5-1) this season. Huff won 10 last season at Marshall. Not sure why banker has such vitriol for huff. Perhaps he can tell us why.

[Turfdawg67]

The guy who got beat 45-14 yesterday by a 3 win team? Okay

Right?!? Didn't Lebby beat Huff 34-17?

[msstate7]

Right?!? Didn't Lebby beat Huff 34-17?

A sec team beat a sun belt team? Wow, great job, Lebby. I guess after Toledo raped us at home last season we shouldn't take it for granted

[Homedawg]

Charles huff?? Yall can't be serious. Damn why dd I even come to look at this board. Holy shit

[Turfdawg67]

Vitriol? He simply pointed out that he lost to a 3 win team by 31pts. If a he were State's HC and did that, you'd post 500 times in 24 hrs that he should be fired

[Coursesuper]

Charles huff?? Yall can't be serious. Damn why dd I even come to look at this board. Holy shit

No Shat! And we wonder.

[Quaoarsking]

Right?!? Didn't Lebby beat Huff 34-17?

There have been 8 SEC vs. Sun Belt games so far this season. That was a pretty impressive performance by Huff to keep it respectable:

Alabama 73, Louisiana Monroe 0
Vanderbilt 70, Georgia State 21
Ole Miss 63, Georgia State 7
Arkansas 56, Arkansas State 14
Missouri 52, Louisiana 10
Georgia 45, Marshall 7
Mississippi State 34, Southern Miss 17
Auburn 31, South Alabama 15

[Turfdawg67]

A sec team beat a sun belt team? Wow, great job, Lebby. I guess after Toledo raped us at home last season we shouldn't take it for granted

Well, if Toledo did it, then the great Charles Huff should've. Right?

[Quaoarsking]

Vitriol? He simply pointed out that he lost to a 3 win team by 31pts. If a he were State's HC and did that, you'd post 500 times in 24 hrs that he should be fired

If Lebby was 7-3, and had previously been a successful coach at another school, I wouldn't be nearly as hard on him over a single game.

[msstate7]

Charles huff?? Yall can't be serious. Damn why dd I even come to look at this board. Holy shit

Assistant HC for Saban 2 seasons before getting his shot at Marshall. 39-23 overall. Usm had less wins than us last season, and they're about to be 8/4 or 9/3. Why is he such a joke?

[Turfdawg67]

There have been 8 SEC vs. Sun Belt games so far this season. That was a pretty impressive performance by Huff to keep it respectable:

Alabama 73, Louisiana Monroe 0
Vanderbilt 70, Georgia State 21
Ole Miss 63, Georgia State 7
Arkansas 56, Arkansas State 14
Missouri 52, Louisiana 10
Georgia 45, Marshall 7
Mississippi State 34, Southern Miss 17
Auburn 31, South Alabama 15

Lol. These are the teams Huff is beating for that impressive conference record you posted.

[basedog]

A sec team beat a sun belt team? Wow, great job, Lebby. I guess after Toledo raped us at home last season we shouldn't take it for granted

So Usm beating up Sunbelt teams is not the same? Take break, you are like a sore throat that want go away!

[msstate7]

Lol. These are the teams Huff is beating for that impressive conference record you posted.

He won 5 conference games at Usm this season. Usm was 1-11 (0-8) last season and 3-9 (2-6) in 2023.

Lebby is on pace to win 5 conference wins in a decade here

[msstate7]

So Usm beating up Sunbelt teams is not the same? Take break, you are like a sore throat that want go away!

They were 1-11 (0-8) last season, and they're having a great season in year 1 of huff. He's won at both stops in his HC career. The ones running him down for being successful are propping Lebby up for being a disaster

[Turfdawg67]

Assistant HC for Saban 2 seasons before getting his shot at Marshall. 39-23 overall. Usm had less wins than us last season, and they're about to be 8/4 or 9/3. Why is he such a joke?

If homedawg says he isn't, then he isn't. If he gives you a matter of fact statement like that, bank on it.

[msstate7]

If homedawg says he isn't, then he isn't. If he gives you a matter of fact statement like that, bank on it.

So and so coach sucks - opinion
So and so is still on the team - statement

If he makes a statement, take it to the bank. If he gives an opinion, he's like us all, he will be right some and wrong some.

The more you know...

[basedog]

They were 1-11 (0-8) last season, and they're having a great season in year 1 of huff. He's won at both stops in his HC career. The ones running him down for being successful are propping Lebby up for being a disaster

It ain't the SEC, it is no comparison, plus do you know how Huff left Msu. Wasn't pretty with a few recruits plus his departure from Marshall was awful.

[msstate7]

It ain't the SEC, it is no comparison, plus do you know how Huff left Msu. Wasn't pretty with a few recruits plus his departure from Marshall was awful.

I don't care how he left us. He left Moorhead to join Saban. You critiquing that?

Sun belt on par with conf USA? I'd say yeah. You know who else went from Saban to a little school before coming to the sec? Lane did, but you wouldn't make that hire bc it's "no comparison".

Lane at FAU: 26-13 (.667)
Huff at 2 stops: 39-23 (.629)

Huff may or may not be good in the sec, but him winning in the sun belt isn't a damn red flag

[Turfdawg67]

So Usm beating up Sunbelt teams is not the same? Take break, you are like a sore throat that want go away!

These boards are all he has, leave him be.

[Bothrops]

After Lebby, we will go through a similar hiring and firing phase like Auburn has done. The 2022 season will be revered in the archives at MSU.

[basedog]

I don't care how he left us. He left Moorhead to join Saban. You critiquing that?

Sun belt on par with conf USA? I'd say yeah. You know who else went from Saban to a little school before coming to the sec? Lane did, but you wouldn't make that hire bc it's "no comparison".

Lane at FAU: 26-13 (.667)
Huff at 2 stops: 39-23 (.629)

Huff may or may not be good in the sec, but him winning in the sun belt isn't a damn red flag

You have no clue, I didn’t what he has done is bad, it ain’t the Sec. ask Marshall about his departing, things he did leaving Msu is not good either. Again you have no clue!

[basedog]

These boards are all he has, leave him be.

He needs a dog to keep him company. He has no clue about coaching nor any inside info. Just blah blah blah on and on!

[Quaoarsking]

After Lebby, we will go through a similar hiring and firing phase like Auburn has done. The 2022 season will be revered in the archives at MSU.

It's better to try and accept being the SEC doormat indefinitely.

We know we are very unlikely to ever make a bowl game with Lebby. We should at least try with a coach who already knows how to be a successful lower tier head coach. Maybe we will do that in 2027.

[msstate7]

You have no clue, I didn?t what he has done is bad, it ain?t the Sec. ask Marshall about his departing, things he did leaving Msu is not good either. Again you have no clue!

And another sun belt coach destroyed us last night. basedog woulda said he can't be successful bc "it's no comparison".

Sumrall will most likely get an sec job this round, and he also coached in the sun belt

[Cowbeller]

Gus does not want to be a HC anymore. He is done with it. Has told a bunch of people that. His wife also has no desire to live in Starkville.

The wife part could be true but they enjoyed Auburn which is the same type town. As far as wanting to be a head coach that?s not true. I can tell you as a fact he does.

[basedog]

And another sun belt coach destroyed us last night. basedog woulda said he can't be successful bc "it's no comparison".

Sumrall will most likely get an sec job this round, and he also coached in the sun belt

Huff isn’t our answer. Stop with you madness. I trust my sources.

[BuckyIsAB****]

There is no smoke. Bo has been out in the cold since Selmon took over. Selmon is not a fan of Bo and his buddies who shilled to get Arnett the full time gig.

If there isnt any smoke therein lies the problem.

[Quaoarsking]

Huff isn’t our answer. Stop with you madness. I trust my sources.

Maybe he's not the #1 most optimal choice, but everything about his head coaching career tells me that he would be better than 7-16 (1-14) right now if we'd hired him instead of Lebby.

[msstate7]

Huff isn’t our answer. Stop with you madness. I trust my sources.

Then say that. You said there's "no comparison" like just bc he's in the sun belt he can't coach here. Huff would be like my 5-6th choice anyway, but I do think it's dumb to act like he isn't good enough when we have an absolute clown currently

[basedog]

Then say that. You said there's "no comparison" like just bc he's in the sun belt he can't coach here. Huff would be like my 5-6th choice anyway, but I do think it's dumb to act like he isn't good enough when we have an absolute clown currently

Dude, read what I said about him departing his last two. You argue like a girl. I never said he can’t Coach. Read slower and post less about coaching.

[Quaoarsking]

Dude, read what I said about him departing his last two. You argue like a girl. I never said he can’t Coach. Read slower and post less about coaching.

So we all agree that Huff is a pretty good coach who would be an improvement over what we have, but might leave us like Mullen did if he wins here and gets a bigger job offer. I'll take that.

[msstate7]

Dude, read what I said about him departing his last two. You argue like a girl. I never said he can’t Coach. Read slower and post less about coaching.

Huff left bc they didn't give him what he wanted in either money or buy out. He left, and the players thought so much of him, they went with him. If I don't get what I want from my employer, I'd go too.

[DownwardDawg]

Malzahn would do great here.

[DownwardDawg]

I thought this was a thread about Malzahn. Damn yall!!!

[Pancho]

I thought Gus's O was washed up.

[Maverick91]

Gus does not want to be a HC anymore. He is done with it. Has told a bunch of people that. His wife also has no desire to live in Starkville.

Also his offense is old and out of date. And we gotta stop getting these offenses that are predicated of having an elite specific position.

[TrapGame]

Also his offense is old and out of date. And we gotta stop getting these offenses that are predicated of having an elite specific position.

Anybody wanting Malzahn is an idiot. He was fired from Auburn who has significant more resources than we do. He was going to get fired at UCF but bowed out to take the FSU OC job. It?s a mediocre offense.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Anybody wanting Malzahn is an idiot. He was fired from Auburn who has significant more resources than we do. He was going to get fired at UCF but bowed out to take the FSU OC job. It?s a mediocre offense.

Some people get names in their head once upon a time and they never let them go. Gus Malzahn would've been a great hire about 10 years ago. He would not be today. Everyone has caught up to that offense. It's not a novelty anymore. It's not an exception.

We had people wanting to hire Mark Stoops in 2017 and 2020. He would've been a great hire in 17 and would've been ok in 20. We'd have a revolt if we hired Mark Stoops tomorrow but there will be people that bring up his name.

[Homedawg]

So we all agree that Huff is a pretty good coach who would be an improvement over what we have, but might leave us like Mullen did if he wins here and gets a bigger job offer. I'll take that.

No we don't all agree....

[Coursesuper]

No we don't all agree....

No kidding.

[DownwardDawg]

No we don't all agree....

I'm with you. I think that's a very meh high risk hire. I haven't seen enough from him to make me think he'd be a good hire.

[msstate7]

Huff may or may not be good, but he has done a better job at Usm than Lebby has here. The turnaround at Usm is impressive.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Huff may or may not be good, but he has done a better job at Usm than Lebby has here. The turnaround at Usm is impressive.

He brought the best players from his team that won THE SAME CONFERENCE THEY ARE IN NOW to USM with him. I would be concerned if he did not do better than Lebby. But hell, we played bad and beat them by 17, and it could have been worse.

Now does that mean Huff is bad coach, no. I think he is a fine coach. I do not think he is great and I do not think he is terrible. He is in the perfect spot for him. I do not think he would do well at the P4 level.

[DownwardDawg]

Huff may or may not be good, but he has done a better job at Usm than Lebby has here. The turnaround at Usm is impressive.

I'd like to add that I do agree with you on one thing regarding Huff. I don't care that he's beating sunbelt teams ( or whatever conference they are in).
It's apples to apples. He has the same talent that those teams have. If he wins in the SEC, he would have SEC players playing against other SEC players.
It's like saying Chris Peterson did great at Boise, but he didn't play anyone. Well he did great at Washington too. He would have done great at Bama.

I've never understood that argument.

But still, I'm not interested in Huff at all. I haven't seen enough.

[Maroon Glasses]

I'd like to add that I do agree with you on one thing regarding Huff. I don't care that he's beating sunbelt teams ( or whatever conference they are in).
It's apples to apples. He has the same talent that those teams have. If he wins in the SEC, he would have SEC players playing against other SEC players.
It's like saying Chris Peterson did great at Boise, but he didn't play anyone. Well he did great at Washington too. He would have done great at Bama.

I've never understood that argument.

But still, I'm not interested in Huff at all. I haven't seen enough.

Yes. I'm not saying we should hire Huff but I agree with what you're saying. Huff has turned USM around in year 1. Altho he did bring his previous team with him but that's what the portal can do for you.

[msstate7]

He brought the best players from his team that won THE SAME CONFERENCE THEY ARE IN NOW to USM with him. I would be concerned if he did not do better than Lebby. But hell, we played bad and beat them by 17, and it could have been worse.

Now does that mean Huff is bad coach, no. I think he is a fine coach. I do not think he is great and I do not think he is terrible. He is in the perfect spot for him. I do not think he would do well at the P4 level.

As I said earlier in this thread, the fact the players followed him says a lot about Huff. Also, as I said earlier in this thread, he would be like 5th or so on my list. I just totally reject he's garbage; nothing supports this.

I don't think Lebby is gonna be fired, so I haven't really dug into candidates. If I were in charge though, this is what I would look for...

1. HC experience. Don't care what level, but actual experience running a program.

2. A guy that isn't at a normal winner, but had success at a place most fail.

3. Innovative offense.

These are the 3 things I wanna look for in that order.

[HoopsDawg]

Charles huff?? Yall can't be serious. Damn why dd I even come to look at this board. Holy shit

Haha, same.

[StarkVegasSteve]

As I said earlier in this thread, the fact the players followed him says a lot about Huff. Also, as I said earlier in this thread, he would be like 5th or so on my list. I just totally reject he's garbage; nothing supports this.

I don't think Lebby is gonna be fired, so I haven't really dug into candidates. If I were in charge though, this is what I would look for...

1. HC experience. Don't care what level, but actual experience running a program.

2. A guy that isn't at a normal winner, but had success at a place most fail.

3. Innovative offense.

These are the 3 things I wanna look for in that order.

That's not bad criteria. I think number 2 is probably where you're going to run into issues because you are taking a chance on someone that may have just caught lightning in a bottle somewhere, ala Turner Gill at Buffalo, Jamey Chadwell at Coastal, or Scott Frost at UCF. But I think WERE WE TO BE LOOKING, and like you said we are not, I think that's pretty good criteria. I would be interested what you would consider innovative offense.

[msstate7]

That's not bad criteria. I think number 2 is probably where you're going to run into issues because you are taking a chance on someone that may have just caught lightning in a bottle somewhere, ala Turner Gill at Buffalo, Jamey Chadwell at Coastal, or Scott Frost at UCF. But I think WERE WE TO BE LOOKING, and like you said we are not, I think that's pretty good criteria. I would be interested what you would consider innovative offense.

I really don't know. Just something that most people aren't doing. I hated leach's offense, but he checked all 3 of my boxes.

[Activated Alpha]

Now I will say that when we do have another national coaching search, whether it is next year or years down the road, we have to stop hiring up and coming offensive coordinators who do not have any HC experience. I would much rather have a G5 HC than a coordinator with 0 experience

[msstate7]

Jake dickert would be my first interview even though he's a defensive guy. He's won at wash state and now WF.

[parabrave]

As I said earlier in this thread, the fact the players followed him says a lot about Huff. Also, as I said earlier in this thread, he would be like 5th or so on my list. I just totally reject he's garbage; nothing supports this.

I don't think Lebby is gonna be fired, so I haven't really dug into candidates. If I were in charge though, this is what I would look for...

1. HC experience. Don't care what level, but actual experience running a program.

2. A guy that isn't at a normal winner, but had success at a place most fail.

3. Innovative offense.

These are the 3 things I wanna look for in that order.

How about a coach who can actually successfully implement his offense be it the Wing T or Veer and win with it. JOMO and Leb are running the innovative RPO meanwhile Leach ran his 30 year old Air Raid and looking back he was successful. Mullen was successful running his offense, Hey Coaching and player evaluation are 80% of winning program.

[1bigdawg]

I'd like to add that I do agree with you on one thing regarding Huff. I don't care that he's beating sunbelt teams ( or whatever conference they are in).
It's apples to apples. He has the same talent that those teams have. If he wins in the SEC, he would have SEC players playing against other SEC players.
It's like saying Chris Peterson did great at Boise, but he didn't play anyone. Well he did great at Washington too. He would have done great at Bama.


That is why Napier has done so well at Florida?

[msstate7]

That is why Napier has done so well at Florida?

Drinkwitz came from sun belt
Lane came form conf USA

[DownwardDawg]

That is why Napier has done so well at Florida?

There's always one......

[HoopsDawg]

Drinkwitz came from sun belt
Lane came form conf USA

Lane is your example? He also was the head coach at UT, USC and the Oakland Raiders. Haha! This board man.

[basedog]

Lane is your example? He also was the head coach at UT, USC and the Oakland Raiders. Haha! This board man.

His new nickname is Sunbelt Ms7.

[Coursesuper]

His new nickname is Sunbelt Ms7.

HA! Well done, I needed that today. Have a little rep today.

[HoopsDawg]

His new nickname is Sunbelt Ms7.

Well done!

[msstate7]

Lane is your example? He also was the head coach at UT, USC and the Oakland Raiders. Haha! This board man.

Fired from 2/3. And Eli?

Saban coached in Mac
Urban coached in Mac
Debeor div II and mtn west
Freeze sunbelt
Cignetti sunbelt

I could come up with more if your simple mind can't comprehend a good coach can come from a small conference. Shall I?

[msstate7]

Delete

[msstate7]

Oh, and the thread title is another sun belt guy, who was successful

[Maroon Glasses]

Oh, and the thread title is another sun belt guy, who was successful

7... I agree with you. I think Huff has done a great job his first year at USM. I definitely think you can find a HC from the smaller schools that can be successful in the P4. As you said, they would need experience and of course a proven track record. It's a bigger risk but so is hiring coordinators to be a HC.

[msstate7]

7... I agree with you. I think Huff has done a great job his first year at USM. I definitely think you can find a HC from the smaller schools that can be successful in the P4. As you said, they would need experience and of course a proven track record. It's a bigger risk but so is hiring coordinators to be a HC.

I didn't think it was a hot take... seemed common sense to me.

[Turfdawg67]

I didn't think it was a hot take... seemed common sense to me.

It wasn’t a hot take, you’re good. Your boy DM was just a lowly ole OC and he was the best in our illustrious history.

[archdog]

So pay him 4 million to be our offensive coordinator.

[Maverick91]

So pay him 4 million to be our offensive coordinator.

Pay me 4 million and I promise to never run 7 qb runs up the middle in a row.

[Maroon Glasses]

Pay me 4 million and I promise to never run 7 qb runs up the middle in a row.

You mean to tell me you wouldn't run the QB draw, QB rpo, QB power, or QB zone split 7 times in a row inside the 2?? You're definitely not getting hired.

[Quaoarsking]

Here are all the Sun Belt coaches who have gone on to bigger jobs in the last 15 years, in a rough approximate order from good to bad. Note that they are mostly pretty good:

1 Curt Cignetti James Madison, 2019-2023
Done an incredible job at Indiana

2 Willie Fritz Georgia Southern, 2014-2015
Eventually won big at Tulane, including a top 10 finish, and how has Houston up and running

3 Jon Sumrall Troy, 2022-2023
Two solid seasons at Tulane.

4 Gus Malzahn Arkansas State, 2012
Solid run at Auburn, finished ranked 5 times in 8 years including a #2. Mixed at UCF, but was overseeing a transition from G5 to P5.

5 Eli Drinkwitz Appalachian State, 2019
3 so-so years at Missouri and then started winning big

6 Hugh Freeze Arkansas State, 2011
Good run at Ole Miss aided by cheating, bad run at Auburn

7 Scott Satterfield Appalachian State, 2013-2018
Was OK at Louisville but has Cincinnati rolling this year.

8 Jamey Chadwell Coastal Carolina, 2017, 2019-2022
Not great in 2025, but still a solid 3-year run at Liberty so far

9 Blake Anderson Arkansas State, 2014-2020
3 solid years at Utah State and then got fired after some kind of Title IX violation, which does not appear to be his own misconduct

10 Bryan Harsin Arkansas State, 2013
Good run at Boise State, but flamed out hard at Auburn

11 Neal Brown Troy, 2015-2018
Eventually got fired at West Virginia, but wasn't really that bad: 25-28 in the conference and 1 top 25 finish.

12 Willie Taggart Western Kentucky, 2010-2012
Slow start at South Florida but eventually had a good season there, OK at Oregon, fired by Florida State and then Florida Atlantic

13 Billy Napier Louisiana, 2018-2021
Failed at Florida

[DownwardDawg]

Here are all the Sun Belt coaches who have gone on to bigger jobs in the last 15 years, in a rough approximate order from good to bad. Note that they are mostly pretty good:

1 Curt Cignetti James Madison, 2019-2023
Done an incredible job at Indiana

2 Willie Fritz Georgia Southern, 2014-2015
Eventually won big at Tulane, including a top 10 finish, and how has Houston up and running

3 Jon Sumrall Troy, 2022-2023
Two solid seasons at Tulane.

4 Gus Malzahn Arkansas State, 2012
Solid run at Auburn, finished ranked 5 times in 8 years including a #2. Mixed at UCF, but was overseeing a transition from G5 to P5.

5 Eli Drinkwitz Appalachian State, 2019
3 so-so years at Missouri and then started winning big

6 Hugh Freeze Arkansas State, 2011
Good run at Ole Miss aided by cheating, bad run at Auburn

7 Scott Satterfield Appalachian State, 2013-2018
Was OK at Louisville but has Cincinnati rolling this year.

8 Jamey Chadwell Coastal Carolina, 2017, 2019-2022
Not great in 2025, but still a solid 3-year run at Liberty so far

9 Blake Anderson Arkansas State, 2014-2020
3 solid years at Utah State and then got fired after some kind of Title IX violation, which does not appear to be his own misconduct

10 Bryan Harsin Arkansas State, 2013
Good run at Boise State, but flamed out hard at Auburn

11 Neal Brown Troy, 2015-2018
Eventually got fired at West Virginia, but wasn't really that bad: 25-28 in the conference and 1 top 25 finish.

12 Willie Taggart Western Kentucky, 2010-2012
Slow start at South Florida but eventually had a good season there, OK at Oregon, fired by Florida State and then Florida Atlantic

13 Billy Napier Louisiana, 2018-2021
Failed at Florida

Gonna hurt some feelings

[basedog]

Gonna hurt some feelings

LOL, I have not read anyone say there are bad coaches in the Sunbelt conferences. But to think the Sunbelt is close in competition to the Sec is crazy.

There are lots of good coaches on different conferences.

[Quaoarsking]

But to think the Sunbelt is close in competition to the Sec is crazy.

I mean, yeah that would be a wildly ignorant thing to think, but who actually does?

[EdwardDrayton]

I mean, yeah that would be a wildly ignorant thing to think, but who actually does?

For those not in the know, this is a rhetorical question. :)

[DownwardDawg]

LOL, I have not read anyone say there are bad coaches in the Sunbelt conferences. But to think the Sunbelt is close in competition to the Sec is crazy.

There are lots of good coaches on different conferences.

It's nowhere close to the SEC. But if you can beat sunbelt players with sunbelt players, you should be able to beat SEC players with SEC players. It's pretty simple. Not rocket surgery.
But it takes a good coach, and that's what good coaches do. It doesn't matter what conference they are in.

Unless you are looking at a case like Prime at Jackson State. He had SEC talent playing against SWAC players. No coaching required.

[DownwardDawg]

I mean, yeah that would be a wildly ignorant thing to think, but who actually does?

Mind blowing

[basedog]

It's nowhere close to the SEC. But if you can beat sunbelt players with sunbelt players, you should be able to beat SEC players with SEC players. It's pretty simple. Not rocket surgery.
But it takes a good coach, and that's what good coaches do. It doesn't matter what conference they are in.

Unless you are looking at a case like Prime at Jackson State. He had SEC talent playing against SWAC players. No coaching required.

I don’t care what conference a coach comes from, but winning enough in the Sec is way tougher than most conferences mainly because competition each weak is way tougher. It ain’t that simple.

[Todd4State]

He brought the best players from his team that won THE SAME CONFERENCE THEY ARE IN NOW to USM with him. I would be concerned if he did not do better than Lebby. But hell, we played bad and beat them by 17, and it could have been worse.

Now does that mean Huff is bad coach, no. I think he is a fine coach. I do not think he is great and I do not think he is terrible. He is in the perfect spot for him. I do not think he would do well at the P4 level.

I sincerely do not hope we have fans that expect Huff to bring in players from USM to MSU and win in the SEC with them. Unfortunately we know the truth about that.

And why the hell are our fans talking about Charles Huff anyway? Didn't they just get waxed by Texas State?

[Todd4State]

I don’t care what conference a coach comes from, but winning enough in the Sec is way tougher than most conferences mainly because competition each weak is way tougher. It ain’t that simple.

Agree. Napier is a good example because Hudspeth left him a lot of good players and ULL has a lot of support for a Sun Belt school. They're probably the second biggest college in Louisiana behind LSU.