Lebby knows KT should play

[tcdog70]

But he doesn?t want to show that it took so long to play Him. I don?t know is he just hard headed or stupid. Might be both. The Texas game might have been proof he is just a dumbass.

[CadaverDawg]

I was thinking Shapen negotiated not being benched into his NIL deal, or had pics of Lebby

[BuckyIsAB****]

Jeff Moorhead

[viverlibre]

Hard headed and stupid are synonymous.

[parabrave]

Hard headed and stupid are synonymous.

OH go pound sand.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Moorhead was better than 1-15

[Maroon Glasses]

I feel like we are being trolled.. nothing about last night made any sense to me.

[tcdog70]

How stupid are you when first and goal from the 2 . Fluff or Shapen. And you go with Shapen.

[bulldawg28]

Lebby wouldn't guarantee MVB the starter for Shapen so it's possible him coming back as the starter was negotiated.

[Bothrops]

But he doesn?t want to show that it took so long to play Him. I don?t know is he just hard headed or stupid. Might be both. The Texas game might have been proof he is just a dumbass.

These portal qbs have unwritten binding agreements with their HC to not only start but to play the entire season, unless unable. That's what I tend to believe.

[BlackSailsDawg]

The issue is KT has the same OL as Shapen. KT is averaging more sacks per passing play than Shapen. It's close, but still more. Putting him back there does not help or improve us with this OL. What it can do is kill his confidence and get him injured.

[bulldawg28]

The issue is KT has the same OL as Shapen. KT is averaging more sacks per passing play than Shapen. It's close, but still more. Putting him back there does not help or improve us with this OL. What it can do is kill his confidence and get him injured.

Nope

[tcdog70]

These portal qbs have unwritten binding agreements with their HC to not only start but to play the entire season, unless unable. That's what I tend to believe.

If true that is stupid. They could fire Lebby tomorrow and I’d be ok with that. He is just too stupid.

[R2Dawg]

The issue is KT has the same OL as Shapen. KT is averaging more sacks per passing play than Shapen. It's close, but still more. Putting him back there does not help or improve us with this OL. What it can do is kill his confidence and get him injured.

If Shapen had KTs plays, his sack numbers would be way higher. Our TDs would be lower too. Look at the TDs per play for KT. It is way up there compared to Shapen. I'm not sure I buy the sacks thing. KT running and TFL is not the same as a sack. He hasn't taken many true sacks.

[R2Dawg]

But he doesn?t want to show that it took so long to play Him. I don?t know is he just hard headed or stupid. Might be both. The Texas game might have been proof he is just a dumbass.

He knows and everyone on God's green earth can see.

[Maroon Glasses]

I have no idea how to post a picture or link on here ir I would do it. But according to all the info I've gathered.. Shapen is sacked 10.4% of the time on drop backs while KT is sacked 5.3% of the time. It is calculated by a players total passing attempts and total sacks. So no KT isn'tsacked at a higher rate.. and it's not even close.

[BeardoMSU]

I was thinking Shapen negotiated not being benched into his NIL deal, or had pics of Lebby

Sane thoughts.

Maybe Leb is in the Epstein files****

[R2Dawg]

I have no idea how to post a picture or link on here ir I would do it. But according to all the info I've gathered.. Shapen is sacked 10.4% of the time on drop backs while KT is sacked 5.3% of the time. It is calculated by a players total passing attempts and total sacks. So no KT isn'tsacked at a higher rate.. and it's not even close.

Just watching the games, I knew that was BS stat. Why do we have fans trying to twist facts into something else I don't understand.

I haven't done the math but KT TD% per play has got to be out the roof compared to most.

[Maroon Glasses]

Kamario has a touchdown percentage per play of 16%. Shapens is 4.4%. But that is skewed due to KT coming in during red zone plays so it actually helps his percentage alot. But even if you ignore the numbers, in my eyes KT is the guy. He passes the eye test for sure and it's just obvious. People will argue that tho.

[CoachT14]

The issue is KT has the same OL as Shapen. KT is averaging more sacks per passing play than Shapen. It's close, but still more. Putting him back there does not help or improve us with this OL. What it can do is kill his confidence and get him injured.

Are you just making shit up?

Kamario has been sacked a grand total of 2 times. Shapen has been sacked 35 times.

31% of the time he's pressured, Shapen is taking a sack because he has zero feel for the pocket or pressure.

Kamario is at 14%.

[BlackSailsDawg]

If Shapen had KTs plays, his sack numbers would be way higher. Our TDs would be lower too. Look at the TDs per play for KT. It is way up there compared to Shapen. I'm not sure I buy the sacks thing. KT running and TFL is not the same as a sack. He hasn't taken many true sacks.

They do not count running and a TFL as a sack. I am correct. Feel free to go look. In fact, Shapen is actual 1 play per sack better. For every 9 passing attempts, Shapen is sacked. Taylor is 8 attempts per sack. I don't need to look at Taylor's TD totals. We don't live in isolation. How many tds does Taylor have after Shapen got us to the endzone? A lot.

More so, you put Taylor in as a starter and defenses will prep to stop his feet. They know the OL is week and will exploit it even more. They have less footage to go buy and his numbers are still not as good.

Nothing matters but getting a great OL.

[BlackSailsDawg]

Are you just making shit up?

Kamario has been sacked a grand total of 2 times. Shapen has been sacked 35 times.

31% of the time he's pressured, Shapen is taking a sack because he has zero feel for the pocket or pressure.

Kamario is at 14%.

Sir, KT has been sacked 3 time in 24 attempts. Period.

[ScooterDog]

It appears to me that the players seem to play harder when KT is in there. That's got to account for something. Is that enough to use KT more often? I think so. What have we got to loose?

[Dawgology]

The issue is KT has the same OL as Shapen. KT is averaging more sacks per passing play than Shapen. It's close, but still more. Putting him back there does not help or improve us with this OL. What it can do is kill his confidence and get him injured.

So explain the QBR.... Shapen 57.0 (75th nationally) and Kamario Taylor 92.3

I mean, if you are going to compare play for play, number of passing plays to sacks, let's look at it all.

[BlackSailsDawg]

So explain the QBR.... Shapen 57.0 (75th nationally) and Kamario Taylor 92.3

I mean, if you are going to compare play for play, number of passing plays to sacks, let's look at it all.

Taylor has not played as many snaps. If he had, we would be having a different conversation. In a round about way you are wanting to talk hypotheticals. Why? This isn't some anti Taylor argument. It's a "the OL sucks and no matter who is back there they are going to get man handled".

There is one game left and Shapen will be gone barring a win. We need an OL going in to next season and its going to take money to get them.

[Todd4State]

Taylor has not played as many snaps. If he had, we would be having a different conversation. In a round about way you are wanting to talk hypotheticals. Why? This isn't some anti Taylor argument. It's a "the OL sucks and no matter who is back there they are going to get man handled".

There is one game left and Shapen will be gone barring a win. We need an OL going in to next season and its going to take money to get them.

Their issue is their whole theory is that a mobile QB can overcome a crappy o-line. Your stat proves them wrong.

Which everyone with any football sense knows. But Hail State.

[Todd4State]

The issue is KT has the same OL as Shapen. KT is averaging more sacks per passing play than Shapen. It's close, but still more. Putting him back there does not help or improve us with this OL. What it can do is kill his confidence and get him injured.

I think the other issue here that no one wants to talk about it the fact that KT is still learning. Now, I think he has made some really remarkable progress between Alcorn and now. Which is awesome and should have everyone excited for the future. He is getting better and I have no doubt if his progress continues he will be the starter and is going to have an awesome career for us. But right now we have true freshman KT and not junior year KT.

But him scrambling isn't always the "best" decision. And yes, it may work to where he may get like a 20 yard run on a scramble which is a good thing. But if you have a wide receiver that is open on that same play that he should have thrown it to and missed it because he is learning we might be losing 20-30 more yards on a play and possibly a TD on that individual play. That's what Lebby is talking about when he is saying that KT leaves things on the field sometimes.

[Goldendawg]

Taylor has not played as many snaps. If he had, we would be having a different conversation. In a round about way you are wanting to talk hypotheticals. Why? This isn't some anti Taylor argument. It's a "the OL sucks and no matter who is back there they are going to get man handled".

There is one game left and Shapen will be gone barring a win. We need an OL going in to next season and its going to take money to get them.

He's in year 6. Even if he leads us to his 2nd SEC victory, he already has the school record for pick 6's here and has only played 15 games due to injuries.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Kamario has a touchdown percentage per play of 16%. Shapens is 4.4%. But that is skewed due to KT coming in during red zone plays so it actually helps his percentage alot. But even if you ignore the numbers, in my eyes KT is the guy. He passes the eye test for sure and it's just obvious. People will argue that tho.

Considering Shapen's TDs percentage is way down when in the redzone, I say play KT.