Potential OCs

[StarkVegasSteve]

Look it is very obvious that Lebby needs to cede play calling duties. Even the greatest offensive minds in today?s game have OCs. Lebby needs to focus on being the HC. Do I think he will cede play calling? Yes. I think if the right person was interested he would cede play calling duties.

1. Kendall Briles-This one is obvious. Things have started to grow a little stale in Ft Worth. His wife does not like Starkville, but I think Lebby being here and being around family might make things a little more attractive to them. He knows this offense forwards and backwards and he is a hell of a play caller. He also called plays for KJ Jefferson at Arkansas, so he knows how to call a game for a big physical QB.

2. Phillip Montgomery-was with Lebby, Briles, and co. at Baylor and was with Art before that at Houston. He also is an experienced HC that Lebby could bounce things off. He also could be considered for an analyst role even if we went with another OC.

3. Kevin Decker-currently the OC at Old Dominion so it would be an easy pull. Studied this offense with Heupel in 2020 after the FCS season was postponed, he was at Fordham. They average over 450 yds a game and he knows how to utilize the QB in the run game. He also could bring his QB with him in case Kamario?s game goes to hell.

4. GJ Kinne- The trend of HCs leaving to become OCs is a thing and if he lit the world on fire he could have a P4 job and be out of here in a year. Also a former HC so he could help Lebby from that standpoint. We would have to AT LEAST match 2 but hell Pete is making 2.5 at OM, I would have no problem throwing 2.5 at Kinne. He also has underperformed a bit this year so he may want a chance to reinvent his image. I would throw the offer and just see. He also has called played for a physical run first QB in TJ Finley and made him look incredible.

5. Joe Jon Finley- This is probably the easiest candidate to pull. He has called this offense with Lebby and knows it. Was also with Art and the crew at Baylor in 2015.

Offensive Analyst

1. Art Briles-Stop playing nice. 17 the media. Go win. Give the man a headset and hang 50 burgers on everyones ass.

[msstate7]

Attracting a good OC to a coach that's 1 more losing season from being fired is gonna be tough

[StarkVegasSteve]

Attracting a good OC to a coach that's 1 more losing season from being fired is gonna be tough

I think Lebby buys himself 2 seasons by ceding play calling and hiring an OC. Call it a little more than a hunch.

[CadaverDawg]

I'd love Briles....Kendall OR Art. And I agree with the other poster...quit being sissies, and hire Art if that will make us better (not sure it will). Ole Miss hired Kiffin and Beard as HEAD coaches with their baggage....we can hire Art as an analyst or OC. What's it going to do, hurt our perception? We already have the worst in the country. F 'em all. Just win

Now do defense. We gave up 300 yards rushing to a RB for the second time in as many seasons under this goon of a DC.

[TrapGame]

I'd love Briles....Kendall OR Art.

Now do defense. We gave up 300 yards rushing to a RB for the second time in as many seasons under this goon of a DC.

If Baker is let go at LSU we need to get him or the DC with South Carolina. Either one of those is an upgrade over Hutz.

[Todd4State]

I would add Blake Anderson at USM. He has been a head coach before and I think he can add something to the offense that can make it even more diverse and better.

[Todd4State]

I'd love Briles....Kendall OR Art. And I agree with the other poster...quit being sissies, and hire Art if that will make us better (not sure it will). Ole Miss hired Kiffin and Beard as HEAD coaches with their baggage....we can hire Art as an analyst or OC. What's it going to do, hurt our perception? We already have the worst in the country. F 'em all. Just win

Now do defense. We gave up 300 yards rushing to a RB for the second time in as many seasons under this goon of a DC.

Hire Pete Golding.

[Activated Alpha]

I'd love Briles....Kendall OR Art. And I agree with the other poster...quit being sissies, and hire Art if that will make us better (not sure it will). Ole Miss hired Kiffin and Beard as HEAD coaches with their baggage....we can hire Art as an analyst or OC. What's it going to do, hurt our perception? We already have the worst in the country. F 'em all. Just win

Now do defense. We gave up 300 yards rushing to a RB for the second time in as many seasons under this goon of a DC.

That is me. I've said it since Lebby brought him to Starkville when he moved last year. Oh no, clutch our pearls, the media will write negative articles about Mississippi State. **** them all straight in the ass because when have they ever written a positive piece about State outside of Leach's death?

[CadaverDawg]

That is me. I've said it since Lebby brought him to Starkville when he moved last year. Oh no, clutch our pearls, the media will write negative articles about Mississippi State. **** them all straight in the ass because when have they ever written a positive piece about State outside of Leach's death?

Agree.

We always say you can't keep a coach just because he's a "good guy", it's about wins and losses not how good of a person they are. Well the same should be true for the opposite....can't NOT hire a guy just bc he may have baggage or a questionable past. If he can answer for it, own it, and show he's past it, and more importantly HELP US WIN....that is the job we are hiring someone to do

And I'm not saying Art can...but if it's the one bullet Lebby has left in his arsenal, he's getting canned after next year anyway most likely, so might as well fire it

[Santiago]

The question is if it is obvious to Lebby he needs an OC?

[Santiago]

Joe Judge - don't shoot me here, but does it help for our NIL with any boosters if he moves over to MSU in any capacity. I have no information but curious. At the very least I bet our special teams would improve.
That said, on your OP, sounds like that would give us some much needed boost.

[Todd4State]

Joe Judge - don't shoot me here, but does it help for our NIL with any boosters if he moves over to MSU in any capacity. I have no information but curious.

We know he could coach special teams at the very least. I want him to get a head coaching job somewhere to see what he can actually do and if he can recruit. Because if he can he becomes a legit future head coaching candidate. And if he can't well we don't get to find out first hand.

[Todd4State]

The question is if it is obvious to Lebby he needs an OC?

I think Selmon has to float the idea to him.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Joe Judge - don't shoot me here, but does it help for our NIL with any boosters if he moves over to MSU in any capacity. I have no information but curious. At the very least I bet our special teams would improve.
That said, on your OP, sounds like that would give us some much needed boost.

I have heard some stuff this morning that were Lane to leave, he would be a top candidate for that job.

[StarkVegasSteve]

The question is if it is obvious to Lebby he needs an OC?

I think last night taught him that. I think when he goes back and watches that film he will see that there was far too much going on in that game for him to be the HC and still be trying to call plays.

[Santiago]

I have heard some stuff this morning that were Lane to leave, he would be a top candidate for that job.

Assuming MSU and Joe are still good? Back when we tried to hire him we were told MSU was his dream job.

[Santiago]

I think last night taught him that. I think when he goes back and watches that film he will see that there was far too much going on in that game for him to be the HC and still be trying to call plays.

I would hope the entire season taught him that. He really needs both an OC and a former experienced HC to guide him.
Pisses me off we are an SEC school, and having these discussions at the end of year 2. How does the 11th game of season 2 finally teach him anything.

[CadaverDawg]

Assuming MSU and Joe are still good? Back when we tried to hire him we were told MSU was his dream job.

I question the hire of a man with such minuscule dreams

[BankerDog]

Agree.

We always say you can't keep a coach just because he's a "good guy", it's about wins and losses not how good of a person they are. Well the same should be true for the opposite....can't NOT hire a guy just bc he may have baggage or a questionable past. If he can answer for it, own it, and show he's past it, and more importantly HELP US WIN....that is the job we are hiring someone to do

And I'm not saying Art can...but if it's the one bullet Lebby has left in his arsenal, he's getting canned after next year anyway most likely, so might as well fire it


Better be careful?you?ll make Robbie Faulk mad!

[Quaoarsking]

Art Briles is the primary reason that half our fanbase never really supported the Lebby hire in the first place and our attendance has been noticeably lower over the last couple years. Doubling down on that for Lebby's last season would be quite the choice.

[msstate7]

If you're going the art way, make him HC, not OC

[StarkVegasSteve]

Art Briles is the primary reason that half our fanbase never really supported the Lebby hire in the first place and our attendance has been noticeably lower over the last couple years. Doubling down on that for Lebby's last season would be quite the choice.

So we get rid of the small minded, “Gotta Win With Class” portion of the fanbase as well? Sign me up.

[Quaoarsking]

So we get rid of the small minded, ?Gotta Win With Class? portion of the fanbase as well? Sign me up.

Meh, I think the "Gotta win with class" people are mostly fine with Briles. It's the "enabling rapists is never OK" crowd who isn't.

Think about this - EVERYONE gets a second chance. No matter how big of a scandal a coach has, no matter how many schools he's left in shambles or on probation, somebody hires him. Sexual misconduct scandal? Nobody cares. Literally leave bruises and bite marks all over your wife? Welcome to Oxford! Provide hookers to players and underage recruits? Get hired by Christian universities like Liberty, Iona, and St. John's!

Everyone gets a second chance ... except Art Briles. The man is radioactive in a way that no one else is. He couldn't get an assistant OC job in Canada. He couldn't get an assistant position at Grambling. There must some even darker secret about him that isn't widely known that prevents him from being able to work anywhere.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Meh, I think the "Gotta win with class" people are mostly fine with Briles. It's the "enabling rapists is never OK" crowd who isn't.

Think about this - EVERYONE gets a second chance. No matter how big of a scandal a coach has, no matter how many schools he's left in shambles or on probation, somebody hires him. Sexual misconduct scandal? Nobody cares. Literally leave bruises and bite marks all over your wife? Welcome to Oxford!

Everyone gets a second chance ... except Art Briles. The man is radioactive in a way that no one else is. He couldn't get an assistant OC job in Canada. He couldn't get an assistant position at Grambling. There must some even darker secret about him that isn't widely known that prevents him from being able to work anywhere.

I just want to win. That is the difference. I really do not care what you do off the field. Not my problem and not my issues to deal with. I am not paid to handle that. I want to see us win ON THE FIELD. What you do OFF THE FIELD does not concern me. Does that make me a bad person? Probably so. But I really do not care. It is not my job to care.

[Quaoarsking]

I just want to win. That is the difference. I really do not care what you do off the field. Not my problem and not my issues to deal with. I am not paid to handle that. I want to see us win ON THE FIELD. What you do OFF THE FIELD does not concern me. Does that make me a bad person? Probably so. But I really do not care. It is not my job to care.

I mean, I'm not going criticize you for it. I myself didn't have it in me to cancel my season tickets like a few people I know. I asked them if they would come back on board if Lebby won here, and they insisted that they would not. Of course, we'll never know at this rate. I just hope they and the rest of the people like them will come back for the next coach.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I mean, I'm not going criticize you for it. I myself didn't have it in me to cancel my season tickets like a few people I know. I asked them if they would come back on board if Lebby won here, and they insisted that they would not. Of course, we'll never know at this rate. I just hope they and the rest of the people like them will come back for the next coach.

And that is the difference between winning programs and us. Programs that are all in continue to support and know that the money people and the administration will make a change if one is needed. OM fans figured this out with Matt Luke. They kept giving, kept supporting, kept showing up, and the money guys made the move to cut bait. That made them an attractive job when the market opened. And they were able to point to that when interviewing Kiffin. We cannot point to that.

Our fans treat supporting the program like going to play golf. Conditions have to be ABSOLUTELY PERFECT. Game time cannot be too early, Game time cannot be too late, their seats have to be in prime locations but they do not want to pay too much(or at all) for them, they will only give to NIL unless they get something in return, if the coach does not play the Mississippi kid they are not going to support, etc. Like our fans make up reasons daily why they are not supporting. Actual programs do not do that. Florida took 5K fans to Oxford and THEY DO NOT EVEN HAVE A COACH. Hell they got beat 37-7 by freaking Kentucky last week. They still showed up ON THE ROAD.

[Quaoarsking]

And that is the difference between winning programs and us. Programs that are all in continue to support and know that the money people and the administration will make a change if one is needed. OM fans figured this out with Matt Luke. They kept giving, kept supporting, kept showing up, and the money guys made the move to cut bait. That made them an attractive job when the market opened. And they were able to point to that when interviewing Kiffin. We cannot point to that.

Our fans treat supporting the program like going to play golf. Conditions have to be ABSOLUTELY PERFECT. Game time cannot be too early, Game time cannot be too late, their seats have to be in prime locations but they do not want to pay too much(or at all) for them, they will only give to NIL unless they get something in return, if the coach does not play the Mississippi kid they are not going to support, etc. Like our fans make up reasons daily why they are not supporting. Actual programs do not do that. Florida took 5K fans to Oxford and THEY DO NOT EVEN HAVE A COACH. Hell they got beat 37-7 by freaking Kentucky last week. They still showed up ON THE ROAD.

I think it's more of a quantitative issue than a qualitative one. In addition to being the poorest fanbase in the SEC, we are one of the smallest, so any issues are magnified.

[bulldawg28]

Agree.

We always say you can't keep a coach just because he's a "good guy", it's about wins and losses not how good of a person they are. Well the same should be true for the opposite....can't NOT hire a guy just bc he may have baggage or a questionable past. If he can answer for it, own it, and show he's past it, and more importantly HELP US WIN....that is the job we are hiring someone to do

And I'm not saying Art can...but if it's the one bullet Lebby has left in his arsenal, he's getting canned after next year anyway most likely, so might as well fire it

Yep, winning is what they're paid to do.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I think it's more of a quantitative issue than a qualitative one. In addition to being the poorest fanbase in the SEC, we are one of the smallest, so any issues are magnified.

The thing is we do not have to be that poor fanbase. I would imagine that out of the 40K State fans at the EB on Black Friday, 25K do not donate to NIL. If you could get those people giving $25/month, which is nothing honestly, that is an extra 7.5 mil a year. It is buy in. Not poor or small.

[Todd4State]

So we get rid of the small minded, “Gotta Win With Class” portion of the fanbase as well? Sign me up.

Hear, hear!

[Todd4State]

The thing is we do not have to be that poor fanbase. I would imagine that out of the 40K State fans at the EB on Black Friday, 25K do not donate to NIL. If you could get those people giving $25/month, which is nothing honestly, that is an extra 7.5 mil a year. It is buy in. Not poor or small.

Well said!

[Coursesuper]

And that is the difference between winning programs and us. Programs that are all in continue to support and know that the money people and the administration will make a change if one is needed. OM fans figured this out with Matt Luke. They kept giving, kept supporting, kept showing up, and the money guys made the move to cut bait. That made them an attractive job when the market opened. And they were able to point to that when interviewing Kiffin. We cannot point to that.

Our fans treat supporting the program like going to play golf. Conditions have to be ABSOLUTELY PERFECT. Game time cannot be too early, Game time cannot be too late, their seats have to be in prime locations but they do not want to pay too much(or at all) for them, they will only give to NIL unless they get something in return, if the coach does not play the Mississippi kid they are not going to support, etc. Like our fans make up reasons daily why they are not supporting. Actual programs do not do that. Florida took 5K fans to Oxford and THEY DO NOT EVEN HAVE A COACH. Hell they got beat 37-7 by freaking Kentucky last week. They still showed up ON THE ROAD.

Well stated, but sadly our people will always find a reason to justify their lack of support.

[Quaoarsking]

I don't really see how people can simultaneously say you can't criticize Lebby unless you can personally fund his buyout, and then also criticize the entire fanbase for not supporting him enough.


Seems contradictory. "Want to see a change that I don't like? Fund it entirely yourself!" and "Why won't everyone else do a better job of funding the changes I do want??"

[Santiago]

And that is the difference between winning programs and us. Programs that are all in continue to support and know that the money people and the administration will make a change if one is needed. OM fans figured this out with Matt Luke. They kept giving, kept supporting, kept showing up, and the money guys made the move to cut bait. That made them an attractive job when the market opened. And they were able to point to that when interviewing Kiffin. We cannot point to that.

Our fans treat supporting the program like going to play golf. Conditions have to be ABSOLUTELY PERFECT. Game time cannot be too early, Game time cannot be too late, their seats have to be in prime locations but they do not want to pay too much(or at all) for them, they will only give to NIL unless they get something in return, if the coach does not play the Mississippi kid they are not going to support, etc. Like our fans make up reasons daily why they are not supporting. Actual programs do not do that. Florida took 5K fans to Oxford and THEY DO NOT EVEN HAVE A COACH. Hell they got beat 37-7 by freaking Kentucky last week. They still showed up ON THE ROAD.


"our fans" - that is not the majority of our fans. Most want to win and win bad.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I don't really see how people can simultaneously say you can't criticize Lebby unless you can personally fund his buyout, and then also criticize the entire fanbase for not supporting him enough.


Seems contradictory. "Want to see a change that I don't like? Fund it entirely yourself!" and "Why won't everyone else do a better job of funding the changes I do want??"

I do not want any changes. I want our fans to continue to support even more than they currently are. Hell I actually upped my giving last night. We finally had a little buy in and the minute adversity hit, our fans were out once again.

[Quaoarsking]

"our fans" - that is not the majority of our fans. Most want to win and win bad.

Exactly. And that's why most of our fans want to change coaches.

[StarkVegasSteve]

"our fans" - that is not the majority of our fans. Most want to win and win bad.

The NIL numbers, season ticket sales, and BC membership suggests differently

[Santiago]

The NIL numbers, season ticket sales, and BC membership suggests differently

you grouped a fan base as a gold crowd.
I don't think that represents the majority.

For NIL. season tickets, BC club, IMO is MSU rebuilding in several areas after Cohen and BS to fans too many times.
IF anything, the MSU fans are not a cult where they buy into crap like some other schools. It is changing for the good and going a good direction now.

[Santiago]

Well stated, but sadly our people will always find a reason to justify their lack of support.

Florida has sidewalk fans from generations of winning.
It is circular, we need some wins as well to own this state again.

[StarkVegasSteve]

you grouped a fan base as a gold crowd.
I don't think that represents the majority.

The majority are not giving. I can look at the numbers and tell you that. That is not opinion it is fact based. We have over 150K living alumni and just a shade over 50K Bulldog Club members. Of that number, about 5-10K are not active members. So I can tell you that a majority are not giving an I am correct.

[Quaoarsking]

The majority are not giving. I can look at the numbers and tell you that. That is not opinion it is fact based. We have over 150K living alumni and just a shade over 50K Bulldog Club members. Of that number, about 5-10K are not active members. So I can tell you that a majority are not giving an I am correct.

Again, it would be ridiculous for me to tell you to personally fund that extra $7.5 million yourself if you want to see it.

But how is that any different than the standard Lebby supporter line of "you can't criticize him if you can't afford to pay his buyout yourself" ?

[Santiago]

The majority are not giving. I can look at the numbers and tell you that. That is not opinion it is fact based. We have over 150K living alumni and just a shade over 50K Bulldog Club members. Of that number, about 5-10K are not active members. So I can tell you that a majority are not giving an I am correct.

I understand that. But that was not my comment. More about lumping all fans as a golf crowd. MSU effed this up in a big way hiring Cohen, and then some years of poor gameday atmosphere, as well as lying about a logo, and the whole Arnett stuff.
To me the fan base is coming back but not overnight. The students are doing their part, which is far better than Ole Miss's students. Kiffin has complained about them every season. Are they a golf crowd?

Also, Ole Miss has so many sidewalk fans. I know tons in my extended family that go to ole miss games as their religion but cannot tell you where the first academic building on campus is at, nor did they go to college. Ole Miss currently has a 97% acceptance rate, and trying to call it "the Kiffin effect".

side note: How are we not driving in media the message that Ole Miss basically is letting in every single applicant. "Harvard of the South" ***

[Santiago]

I and my golf crowd will be at the egg bowl. (i don't play golf but referencing with the spirit of this thread).
Knowing full well I will have to endure ole miss at our stadium and stomach watching our coach in training. But I am going, and I love the university, and the academic side of having a degree from the university.
For what its worth in my family the younger members looking to go to college like MSU over ole miss. Their parents go to Ole Miss games but never went to college. MS kids like MSU. So let's not lump every MSU fan into one stereotype of a golf crowd.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I understand that. But that was not my comment. More about lumping all fans as a golf crowd. MSU effed this up in a big way hiring Cohen, and then some years of poor gameday atmosphere, as well as lying about a logo, and the whole Arnett stuff.
To me the fan base is coming back but not overnight. The students are doing their part, which is far better than Ole Miss's students. Kiffin has complained about them every season. Are they a golf crowd?

Also, Ole Miss has so many sidewalk fans. I know tons in my extended family that go to ole miss games as their religion but cannot tell you where the first academic building on campus is at, nor did they go to college. Ole Miss currently has a 97% acceptance rate, and trying to call it "the Kiffin effect".

None of what you said is wrong. We screwed ourselves from 2016-2023. We hired a baseball coach as AD who prioritized his sport. He tried to be the smartest guy in the room in 2017 when our job was actually an attractive job. Our president nixed Sark because he was a recovering alcoholic. We kind of lucked into Leach, but Leach divided our fan base into Air Raid vs Ground and Pound. Leach then dies and we panic hire Arnett worrying about a HS recruiting class that was, in retrospect, shit outside of 3 players. We were late to the party on NIL so we were behind the 8 ball in funding when Lebby was hired.

A lot of that is out of the fans control. But there is also a point to make that you just cannot sit on your hands and wait for it to get better and then you will care. Unfortunately that is a majority of the fan base. Hell I can look at attendance numbers and tell you that. Even in our worst Mullen year we sold out the stadium, or at least it was not overtaken by opposing fan bases. That is on the fans. I always harken back to it, but it is that old Dan Mullen quote, “It is not win first and then the fans show up. Fans show up and start believing in the program and buying in and the wins will come.”

[Quaoarsking]

I always harken back to it, but it is that old Dan Mullen quote, “It is not win first and then the fans show up. Fans show up and start believing in the program and buying in and the wins will come.”

Can you link me to Dan Mullen saying this, along with what year he said it? I can't find it anywhere.

[Santiago]

None of what you said is wrong. We screwed ourselves from 2016-2023. We hired a baseball coach as AD who prioritized his sport. He tried to be the smartest guy in the room in 2017 when our job was actually an attractive job. Our president nixed Sark because he was a recovering alcoholic. We kind of lucked into Leach, but Leach divided our fan base into Air Raid vs Ground and Pound. Leach then dies and we panic hire Arnett worrying about a HS recruiting class that was, in retrospect, shit outside of 3 players. We were late to the party on NIL so we were behind the 8 ball in funding when Lebby was hired.

A lot of that is out of the fans control. But there is also a point to make that you just cannot sit on your hands and wait for it to get better and then you will care. Unfortunately that is a majority of the fan base. Hell I can look at attendance numbers and tell you that. Even in our worst Mullen year we sold out the stadium, or at least it was not overtaken by opposing fan bases. That is on the fans. I always harken back to it, but it is that old Dan Mullen quote, “It is not win first and then the fans show up. Fans show up and start believing in the program and buying in and the wins will come.”

Agree with you.
It is a fan's prerogative to not invest with such a poor ROI, and poor leadership as we had in recent years. I had season tickets this year, and Selmon has done a great job with game day atmosphere. Maybe I am too optimistic, but it feels like the fans are on the cusp of additional support but have been burned for a very long time by their own university.

Circular, but we just need that 6th W, as you mentioned.

[Quaoarsking]

None of what you said is wrong. We screwed ourselves from 2016-2023. We hired a baseball coach as AD who prioritized his sport. He tried to be the smartest guy in the room in 2017 when our job was actually an attractive job. Our president nixed Sark because he was a recovering alcoholic. We kind of lucked into Leach, but Leach divided our fan base into Air Raid vs Ground and Pound. Leach then dies and we panic hire Arnett worrying about a HS recruiting class that was, in retrospect, shit outside of 3 players. We were late to the party on NIL so we were behind the 8 ball in funding when Lebby was hired.

For the record, I think this is a pretty good summary. It just frustrates me to think we're willingly going to sign up for another year of it in 2026 when we don't have to.

[Chuck3124]

Speaking of OC candidates. What are the thoughts on kicking the tires on Will Muschamp to come in as DC? Just a thought I mean he?s only a defensive analyst at UGA. Was actually demoted to that role recently from Co-DC

[Pancho]

sounds good to me

[Maverick91]

That is me. I've said it since Lebby brought him to Starkville when he moved last year. Oh no, clutch our pearls, the media will write negative articles about Mississippi State. **** them all straight in the ass because when have they ever written a positive piece about State outside of Leach's death?

Wait... Air is actually living in Starkville? What the heck does he do with his time if not football help?

[Maverick91]

So we get rid of the small minded, “Gotta Win With Class” portion of the fanbase as well? Sign me up.

Look if Lebby kinda recognized he needs an OC. Why not just give Art the OC duties for the egg bowl he has two weeks to get the calls going. What's it going to hurt?

[StarkVegasSteve]

Can you link me to Dan Mullen saying this, along with what year he said it? I can't find it anywhere.

2014 Press Conference after Texas A&M. It's readily available on Youtube and has been for a decade plus. It's also in the Hailstate Highlight from that game at the end. I have linked both videos below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBpabdDQZLA (11:45)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UmTjymKXEs (2:10)

[StarkVegasSteve]

Speaking of OC candidates. What are the thoughts on kicking the tires on Will Muschamp to come in as DC? Just a thought I mean he?s only a defensive analyst at UGA. Was actually demoted to that role recently from Co-DC

That was a he wanted to be demoted. He's done with the day to day of coaching and being a DC. He's happy at his alma mater making 6 figures

[Chuck3124]

That?s a bummer. Who are some other potential candidates for DC you think SVS?

[StarkVegasSteve]

That?s a bummer. Who are some other potential candidates for DC you think SVS?

I think a lot of it depends on what coaches are out there. I mean what does Blake Baker do? Does he stay on with the new staff? That'd be an obvious upgrade.

What happens with Ron Roberts at Florida?

What happens at Washington? Does Jedd Fisch get out? And does that open up Ryan Walters?

Same with Auburn. Does Durkin stay on with the new coach?


I mean if you're looking outside the box:

1. Jesse Bobbitt-Washington St

2. Rob Aurich-San Diego St

3. Todd Bates or Jay Valai- Co-DCs at Oklahoma

4. Vince Kehres-Toledo

5. Colin Hitschler-James Madison

[Chuck3124]

I think a lot of it depends on what coaches are out there. I mean what does Blake Baker do? Does he stay on with the new staff? That'd be an obvious upgrade.

What happens with Ron Roberts at Florida?

What happens at Washington? Does Jedd Fisch get out? And does that open up Ryan Walters?

Same with Auburn. Does Durkin stay on with the new coach?


I mean if you're looking outside the box:

1. Jesse Bobbitt-Washington St

2. Rob Aurich-San Diego St

3. Todd Bates or Jay Valai- Co-DCs at Oklahoma

4. Vince Kehres-Toledo

5. Colin Hitschler-James Madison

All of these are significantly better and higher ranked total defenses than we have currently I?d take any of them. I like the idea of Blake baker for sure. That?s if he doesn?t stay at LSU and is available

[StarkVegasSteve]

All of these are significantly better and higher ranked total defenses than we have currently I?d take any of them. I like the idea of Blake baker for sure. That?s if he doesn?t stay at LSU and is available

It will all depend on who LSU hires. If they hire say, Lincoln Riley, I could see them keeping Blake. Same with Joe Brady. If they were to hire a Jon Sumrall, I could see Blake moving on.

[Chuck3124]

It will all depend on who LSU hires. If they hire say, Lincoln Riley, I could see them keeping Blake. Same with Joe Brady. If they were to hire a Jon Sumrall, I could see Blake moving on.

Interesting. I doubt Keenum allows Lebby to hire Durkin unfortunately

[Coursesuper]

Interesting. I doubt Keenum allows Lebby to hire Durkin unfortunately

That depends on how much pressure is applied from boosters.

[TrapGame]

Interesting. I doubt Keenum allows Lebby to hire Durkin unfortunately

It thought we were after Durkin two years ago when Lebby got here but A&M wouldn?t let him out of his contract.

If Durkin is available and Keenum doesn?t care it will take a damn good salary and an assistant head coach tag to get him here.

[StarkVegasSteve]

It thought we were after Durkin two years ago when Lebby got here but A&M wouldn?t let him out of his contract.

If Durkin is available and Keenum doesn?t care it will take a damn good salary and an assistant head coach tag to get him here.

We've backed off that. We wouldn't have hired Lebby if that was the case.

And yes, Durkin was the candidate 2 years ago but A&M wanted someone to buy him out of his contract so they didn't have to pay the buyout so they held him hostage.

[Chuck3124]

We've backed off that. We wouldn't have hired Lebby if that was the case.

And yes, Durkin was the candidate 2 years ago but A&M wanted someone to buy him out of his contract so they didn't have to pay the buyout so they held him hostage.

This makes a lot of sense, because I thought it was a hold up on keenum?s end. I would absolutely take Durkin or Blake Baker if neither are retained by their new employers.

[Todd4State]

Again, it would be ridiculous for me to tell you to personally fund that extra $7.5 million yourself if you want to see it.

But how is that any different than the standard Lebby supporter line of "you can't criticize him if you can't afford to pay his buyout yourself" ?

No one ever said that you had to buy him out yourself. But you can contribute what you can!

And you can still criticize him if you want to. No one has ever told you that you can't either.

People are telling you the reality of how college sports works nowadays and you can accept it or not.

[Todd4State]

It will all depend on who LSU hires. If they hire say, Lincoln Riley, I could see them keeping Blake. Same with Joe Brady. If they were to hire a Jon Sumrall, I could see Blake moving on.

And most of their fans want to keep Baker. So I would guess the odds of him staying there are pretty high.

[StarkVegasSteve]

And most of their fans want to keep Baker. So I would guess the odds of him staying there are pretty high.

That will be a turn off to some coaches. Oddly enough I actually think it could work in their favor with Lane. Pete is not going with him to Baton Rouge so he will need a DC.

[Lord McBuckethead]

What is the issue with Art? Its not like he was the one that assaulted these girls. Hell Alabama put a person on the court that they knew took part in and helped execute a murder. Let that sink in a minute. Then an NBA team drafted that kid. He brought the gun to the guy, and then used his car to block the girls escape so she could be gunned down. And we are worried about Art? Hell, Hugh Freeze was buying hookers for underage recruits and Liberty and Auburn hired him knowing that.

I just went back and read about the story. Art lost his job. The board of Directors were blocking for the "Brand". Art got a settlement from the University when he sued them for wrongful termination. So..... it seems like Art wasn't the one actively covering for sexual assault, but the top brass.