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Pinto
11-08-2025, 04:00 PM
Our only two bad beats this year are to the #3 and #5 teams. Those teams will be in the playoffs. We are not a top 5 team and shouldn?t be surprised when we don?t go toe to toe with them.

Yes Lebby is learning and we should probably have 2 or 3 more wins this season, but in looking at the big picture so far - this team has done damn good.

We need to quit looking at what we just missed and start seeing how good we really are doing.

Now, let?s get behind the team for these last two and go bowling!

Todd4State
11-08-2025, 04:05 PM
Nice! Agree!

Maverick91
11-08-2025, 04:06 PM
Agreed. But still pissed. That was poor and shouldn't have been.

preachermatt83
11-08-2025, 04:13 PM
Here, Hear!!!!

Maroon Glasses
11-08-2025, 04:15 PM
I think it speaks volumes when we as fans are upset when we lose to the #5 team. It means we are that much better! Our expectations have grown through the year. Losing sucks but look at how far we have come. I just feel like we are moving in the right direction. Question coaching? Yes. But we are no where close to have the talent that Georgia, Texas, Florida, etc have. Yet we went toe to tie with them. Not so much toe to toe with Georgia but we had opportunities and competed. Most of us predicted this year would be terrible. Here we are with a chance to go bowling and competing with the big boys.

archdog
11-08-2025, 04:22 PM
Yep. The team is better, but we are not top 5. Keep doing what we are doing.

One note, that damn speaker system was ear splitting today. It sucks we have to blast it out because they suck so much.

R2Dawg
11-08-2025, 04:22 PM
Our only two bad beats this year are to the #3 and #5 teams. Those teams will be in the playoffs. We are not a top 5 team and shouldn?t be surprised when we don?t go toe to toe with them.

Yes Lebby is learning and we should probably have 2 or 3 more wins this season, but in looking at the big picture so far - this team has done damn good.

We need to quit looking at what we just missed and start seeing how good we really are doing.

Now, let?s get behind the team for these last two and go bowling!

Yep we are not top 5 good but we have top 25 talent-see ASU , Tenn, Tex etc
Still frustrated by performance today but we still can win 6

Dawgface
11-08-2025, 04:24 PM
I just wish we would have won 1 of the 3 close one’s we had a great chance to win….to state the obvious. Bowl game….extra practices would have been nice. Still a chance but very slim. I only predicted 3 wins so I should be satisfied. Ha.

HoopsDawg
11-08-2025, 04:24 PM
Lebby has far exceeded my expectations. We have the right coach, just need to keep adding talent and build around KT.

TrapGame
11-08-2025, 04:27 PM
Lebby has far exceeded my expectations. We have the right coach, just need to keep adding talent and build around KT.

Absolutely!

Give money to NIL. We need to upgrade OL and DL.

basedog
11-08-2025, 04:27 PM
Georgia is the most talented team we have faced all year. Also the fastest and most depth. We had 4 DB’s to get banged up today.

Penalties made it worse as did not kicking FG and the fumble. KT got better by the end of game.

DEDawg
11-08-2025, 04:30 PM
Back in June we all would have been thrilled going into the egg with 5 wins being able to beat them and get to a bowl. Well guess what

Coursesuper
11-08-2025, 04:37 PM
Our only two bad beats this year are to the #3 and #5 teams. Those teams will be in the playoffs. We are not a top 5 team and shouldn?t be surprised when we don?t go toe to toe with them.

Yes Lebby is learning and we should probably have 2 or 3 more wins this season, but in looking at the big picture so far - this team has done damn good.

We need to quit looking at what we just missed and start seeing how good we really are doing.

Now, let?s get behind the team for these last two and go bowling!

This is year 2 of a massive un17. The progress is apparent as it the distance that we are still behind the top of our league. We have to just keep our heads down and keep on keeping on right now. Increase the nil funds and get better.

basedog
11-08-2025, 04:42 PM
Back in June we all would have been thrilled going into the egg with 5 wins being able to beat them and get to a bowl. Well guess what

Unfortunately, the Village People think MSU is or should be a blue blood. No doubt most before season would be ok with 5 wins in year two. Plus against maybe the toughest Sec schedule in the conference. IF we get6 I would be very happy.
Injuries today looks pretty bad, especially on defense and our lack of depth. I’m not surprised about the outcome today, neither should everyone else.

shoeless joe
11-08-2025, 05:20 PM
I’m happy with the improvement I’m seeing in almost every asset. My issue is that there has been absolutely zero improvement in play call/decision making from the HC and the QB position. I can be pleased at the progress and still be pissed where there has been absolutely none when we are at the end of yr 2.

basedog
11-08-2025, 05:46 PM
I’m happy with the improvement I’m seeing in almost every asset. My issue is that there has been absolutely zero improvement in play call/decision making from the HC and the QB position. I can be pleased at the progress and still be pissed where there has been absolutely none when we are at the end of yr 2.

Can’t disagree totally, getting better talent and some depth would help big time.

Bothrops
11-08-2025, 06:20 PM
The amount of players we have to acquire this off season is troubling. There won't be any continuity carried over next year. It's back to 2024 with a more seasoned HC. The schedule remains awful.

Quaoarsking
11-08-2025, 06:37 PM
The amount of players we have to acquire this off season is troubling. There won't be any continuity carried over next year. It's back to 2024 with a more seasoned HC. The schedule remains awful.

All the turnover is the new normal. Either we can do it as a fanbase and Lebby can do it as a coach, or we're the perpetual doormats of the SEC.

Coursesuper
11-08-2025, 06:51 PM
The amount of players we have to acquire this off season is troubling. There won't be any continuity carried over next year. It's back to 2024 with a more seasoned HC. The schedule remains awful.

Damn chicken little, it?s not that bad.

Cowbeller
11-08-2025, 06:52 PM
Back in June we all would have been thrilled going into the egg with 5 wins being able to beat them and get to a bowl. Well guess what

Not saying Lebby is a bad coach but expectations are reality. As State fans being happy with 6 wins is bullshit. We are a minimum 8 win school and this year that was possible.

Rejlector84sports
11-08-2025, 06:52 PM
In watching highly sucessful teams in the SEC it always seems the have-nots have one major factor in common -- those who become head coaches turn over play-calling to assistants. You can say Kiffen is the exact opposite, but you cannot deny the fact if it were not for Saban having him OC at Bama made him able to do so. I would also like to point out how Moorehead was always claimed to be the best OC in the country and absolutely ruined everything when he showed that a HC he was not. We know Lebby was a top OC at Oklahoma, but as long as most of his attention is on one side of the ball the other sides will suffer. Mullen was successful as an OC and as HC for State, but he showed true colors at Florida. We need a head coach who can contribute but leave the call playing itself to someone else and just run the program.

Bothrops
11-08-2025, 07:15 PM
Damn chicken little, it?s not that bad.

Have you looked at the schedule and roster?

Coursesuper
11-08-2025, 07:25 PM
Have you looked at the schedule and roster?

No I live in a bubble in the state of oblivion. Of course I have, we live in the SEC all this come with the territory.

Coach34
11-08-2025, 07:27 PM
Back in June we all would have been thrilled going into the egg with 5 wins being able to beat them and get to a bowl. Well guess what

We have a better chance to beat Mizzou than win the Egg

Coach34
11-08-2025, 07:29 PM
Not saying Lebby is a bad coach but expectations are reality. As State fans being happy with 6 wins is bullshit. We are a minimum 8 win school and this year that was possible.

Expectations are indeed reality. We were expected to struggle to win 4 and have exceeded that this season. Winning 6 would be a helluva season

Coach34
11-08-2025, 07:42 PM
I’m happy with the improvement I’m seeing in almost every asset. My issue is that there has been absolutely zero improvement in play call/decision making from the HC and the QB position. I can be pleased at the progress and still be pissed where there has been absolutely none when we are at the end of yr 2.

I just watched Candy's HC pass on kicking the FG with a minute left in a tie game to go for it on 4th and 1. Didnt get it.

Analytics have changed the way coaches make decisions now. Hell, our team in HS went for it on 4th down inside our own 40 about 7-8 times this season.

basedog
11-08-2025, 07:46 PM
I just watched Candy's HC pass on kicking the FG with a minute left in a tie game to go for it on 4th and 1. Didnt get it.

Analytics have changed the way coaches make decisions now. Hell, our team in HS went for it on 4th down inside our own 40 about 7-8 times this season.

Yep, bad decision, seems now days more teams are going for it. I would have kicked ii.

Quaoarsking
11-08-2025, 07:49 PM
I just watched Candy's HC pass on kicking the FG with a minute left in a tie game to go for it on 4th and 1. Didnt get it.

Analytics have changed the way coaches make decisions now. Hell, our team in HS went for it on 4th down inside our own 40 about 7-8 times this season.

I don't have a mathematical model in front of me, but there's no way Lea made a decision made on analytics there. Just a colossal screwup.

DownwardDawg
11-08-2025, 07:53 PM
Lebby has far exceeded my expectations. We have the right coach, just need to keep adding talent and build around KT.

Agree. And we absolutely have got to keep KT. I'm a bit concerned about that due to the way his Dad acts.

Coach34
11-08-2025, 07:54 PM
I don't have a mathematical model in front of me, but there's no way Lea made a decision made on analytics there. Just a colossal screwup.

analytics says always go for it on 4th and 1. He gets it and he gets to run the clock down to 3 seconds and win the game or go to OT. No guarantees either on 40 plus yard FG's. Our kicker missed from 37 Thursday and he is the best kicker in the state- signing with A&M next month.

I would have kicked it there tho myself. I'm not big on analytics- I go by gut feeling

DownwardDawg
11-08-2025, 07:55 PM
Yep, bad decision, seems now days more teams are going for it. I would have kicked ii.

It was a terrible call.

Coach34
11-08-2025, 07:55 PM
Agree. And we absolutely have got to keep KT. I'm a bit concerned about that due to the way his Dad acts.

KT isnt going anywhere. He knows its his job next year

EdwardDrayton
11-08-2025, 07:57 PM
I don't have a mathematical model in front of me, but there's no way Lea made a decision made on analytics there. Just a colossal screwup.

Yup

EdwardDrayton
11-08-2025, 07:58 PM
KT isnt going anywhere. He knows its his job next year

Well apparently we need to get all our folks on that same page.

Quaoarsking
11-08-2025, 08:01 PM
analytics says always go for it on 4th and 1. He gets it and he gets to run the clock down to 3 seconds and win the game or go to OT. No guarantees either on 40 plus yard FG's. Our kicker missed from 37 Thursday and he is the best kicker in the state- signing with A&M next month.

I would have kicked it there tho myself. I'm not big on analytics- I go by gut feeling

There are no "always" when it comes to analytics. Most situations you go on 4th and 1, but I can just about guarantee you you kick on 4th down from the 25 on a tie game, mathematically speaking, if you're maximizing your probability of winning.

Pavia really wanted to go for it, and Lea allowed it. Just a bad call from the coach that didn't end up hurting them.

Coursesuper
11-08-2025, 08:02 PM
Agree. And we absolutely have got to keep KT. I'm a bit concerned about that due to the way his Dad acts.

His dad is nothing to worry about.

Bothrops
11-08-2025, 08:09 PM
No I live in a bubble in the state of oblivion. Of course I have, we live in the SEC all this come with the territory.

So you agree then

Coach34
11-08-2025, 08:10 PM
There are no "always" when it comes to analytics. Most situations you go on 4th and 1, but I can just about guarantee you you kick on 4th down from the 25 on a tie game, mathematically speaking, if you're maximizing your probability of winning.

Pavia really wanted to go for it, and Lea allowed it. Just a bad call from the coach that didn't end up hurting them.

I would have kicked it also. I'm just pointing out that today's coaches do shit differently than they did even 10 years ago. One thing has always been true- sometimes you look like a genius- sometimes a dumbass

Coach34
11-08-2025, 08:11 PM
So you agree then

1/3 of your roster is always going to be different in today's NCAA football each season.

basedog
11-08-2025, 08:17 PM
1/3 of your roster is always going to be different in today's NCAA football each season.

Big time.

DownwardDawg
11-08-2025, 08:18 PM
His dad is nothing to worry about.

Good

Todd4State
11-08-2025, 08:32 PM
In watching highly sucessful teams in the SEC it always seems the have-nots have one major factor in common -- those who become head coaches turn over play-calling to assistants. You can say Kiffen is the exact opposite, but you cannot deny the fact if it were not for Saban having him OC at Bama made him able to do so. I would also like to point out how Moorehead was always claimed to be the best OC in the country and absolutely ruined everything when he showed that a HC he was not. We know Lebby was a top OC at Oklahoma, but as long as most of his attention is on one side of the ball the other sides will suffer. Mullen was successful as an OC and as HC for State, but he showed true colors at Florida. We need a head coach who can contribute but leave the call playing itself to someone else and just run the program.

Coaching matters less than ever probably. Our general problem isn't our coaches. We have improved and we scored 21 points on a top 5 team with a freshman QB playing half the game. Right now Lebby's offense is ahead of where Dan's was at the same point.

Our problem is we need more players and we need better players. The reason why we are better this year than last year is because our players are better. But we still need more.

That's why Saban was so good at Alabama. He had the best players. When he was with the Dolphins he sucked because the players weren't good relatively speaking in the NFL. Bill Walsh didn't become Bill Walsh until Joe Montana, Jerry Rice and Ronnie Lott showed up. And look at Bellichick's record with the Browns. He gets Tom Brady and all of a sudden he figured it out? Not a coincidence. Had some other really good players too like Welker, Woolfork, Seau, Rodney Harrison, Moss, etc.

Moorhead was the top OC because he had a guy named Saquon Barkley running the ball for him.

So our path to being what we want to be is simple- we must acquire better players which is something that MSU fans have historically been resistant to doing. If Ole Miss and Vanderbilt can do it- so can MSU.

Coach34
11-08-2025, 08:53 PM
So our path to being what we want to be is simple- we must acquire better players which is something that MSU fans have historically been resistant to doing. If Ole Miss and Vanderbilt can do it- so can MSU.

You had such a good post going until you ended it here. Both those schools have way more money than we do. This is the Era of buying a roster and we dont have the greenbacks the rest of the SEC does

StarkVegasSteve
11-08-2025, 08:58 PM
You had such a good post going until you ended it here. Both those schools have way more money than we do. This is the Era of buying a roster and we dont have the greenbacks the rest of the SEC does

We do. We just do not have the commitment and buy in they do.

Todd4State
11-08-2025, 08:59 PM
You had such a good post going until you ended it here. Both those schools have way more money than we do. This is the Era of buying a roster and we dont have the greenbacks the rest of the SEC does

Maybe not Vanderbilt but we have money and we have enough to improve from where we are now. For MSU it's a buy in problem.

StarkVegasSteve
11-08-2025, 09:00 PM
Maybe not Vanderbilt but we have money and we have enough to improve from where we are now. For MSU it's a buy in problem.

1000% Todd

Maverick91
11-08-2025, 09:08 PM
I just watched Candy's HC pass on kicking the FG with a minute left in a tie game to go for it on 4th and 1. Didnt get it.

Analytics have changed the way coaches make decisions now. Hell, our team in HS went for it on 4th down inside our own 40 about 7-8 times this season.

I hate analytics. It removes the feel of the game, who's in who's out. I wish they would have never become a thing.

Coach34
11-08-2025, 09:12 PM
We do. We just do not have the commitment and buy in they do.

Never have with Mississippi but you see Candy stepping up and throwing money to be good. I never in my life thought I would witness Candy having better skill people than 2/3 of the SEC

StarkVegasSteve
11-08-2025, 09:14 PM
Never have with Mississippi but you see Candy stepping up and throwing money to be good. I never in my life thought I would witness Candy having better skill people than 2/3 of the SEC

A lot of that is Kill brought Pavia and Stowers. They are both REALLY GOOD.

Coach34
11-08-2025, 09:16 PM
I hate analytics. It removes the feel of the game, who's in who's out. I wish they would have never become a thing.

agree. It made me quit watching MLB baseball. I've watched 3 games since the Cubs won the WS. All of them are when I took my kids to watch the Rangers in Dallas

Coach34
11-08-2025, 09:17 PM
A lot of that is Kill brought Pavia and Stowers. They are both REALLY GOOD.

Yeah but they got alot more than just those 2 and I expect them to buy another QB in that mold this offseason

TrapGame
11-08-2025, 09:19 PM
We do. We just do not have the commitment and buy in they do.

Yes.

We have two billionaires that refuse to give to athletics. One billionaire at Texas Tech decided to go all in on football and they are the #7 team in the country.

The older people I talk to through work think we are going to put the genie back in the bottle and this NIL thing is just a fad. They are absolutely clueless on how modern college sports operates. They are stuck in 1995. They are adamant they are not giving money to buy players. They think we should be recruiting the players that play for pride, the love of State and not the love of money. Again, totally clueless on how modern sports operates.

Coach34
11-08-2025, 09:31 PM
The older people I talk to through work think we are going to put the genie back in the bottle and this NIL thing is just a fad. They are absolutely clueless on how modern college sports operates. They are stuck in 1995. They are adamant they are not giving money to buy players. They think we should be recruiting the players that play for pride, the love of State and not the love of money. Again, totally clueless on how modern sports operates.

Yeah- tell them they are clueless morons. We have kids making business decisions in HS on Friday nights.

Our ****ing kicker that is signing with A&M in December is one of the top kickers in the country. He ran away from making a tackle on a KO return for a TD because he didnt want to risk getting hurt. It makes me ****ing sick

Todd4State
11-08-2025, 09:33 PM
I hate analytics. It removes the feel of the game, who's in who's out. I wish they would have never become a thing.

Here's the problem with analytics- baseball fan speaking here- a lot of those stats are based off of a lot of data. The issue is it's not that cut and dried. Going for it on fourth down against Georgia and Georgia State in that situation are two different animals.

Now, in Lebby's defense it did look like the play was there and was open and we made a bad throw. But I still personally did not like going for it because we were down and a field goal would have made it a seven point game.

And taking the punt/offense BS where we jumped offsides and gave them another TD it would have been a two possession game with the field goal and ended up being a three possession game.

HoopsDawg
11-08-2025, 09:33 PM
Yeah- tell them they are clueless morons. We have kids making business decisions in HS on Friday nights.

Our ****ing kicker that is signing with A&M in December is one of the top kickers in the country. He ran away from making a tackle on a KO return for a TD because he didnt want to risk getting hurt. It makes me ****ing sick

Wow.

Coach34
11-08-2025, 09:41 PM
Wow.

Yes- he could have literally stopped the guy from returning his kickoff that he mishit because he can kick it into the end zone every time- but instead of closing it down with the other guy and making the tackle he drifted back into the center of the field to open up the gap even more. He ran like a girl- it was pathetic

Good luck with that A&M

Quaoarsking
11-08-2025, 09:42 PM
And taking the punt/offense BS where we jumped offsides and gave them another TD it would have been a two possession game with the field goal and ended up being a three possession game.

I'll hijack the thread and say why is it even legal for a team to do that? Oklahoma's play to have a player secretly on the field scoring a TD was banned (not called, unfortunately) because it was considered an unsportsmanlike trick. Why isn't Georgia's fakeout mass substitution also banned?

Percho
11-08-2025, 09:45 PM
I hate analytics. It removes the feel of the game, who's in who's out. I wish they would have never become a thing.

Analytaly [sp] kickers score a lot of points.


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DEDawg
11-08-2025, 10:10 PM
We have a better chance to beat Mizzou than win the Egg

Well yeah obviously. My statement is worst case, which is already meaning we met expectations for this season

StarkVegasSteve
11-08-2025, 10:13 PM
Well yeah obviously. My statement is worst case, which is already meaning we met expectations for this season

I will go as far as saying if we beat Mizzou we are going to win the Egg Bowl and if we lose, we may lose the Egg Bowl by 3 scores.

StarkVegasSteve
11-08-2025, 10:15 PM
Yes.

We have two billionaires that refuse to give to athletics. One billionaire at Texas Tech decided to go all in on football and they are the #7 team in the country.

The older people I talk to through work think we are going to put the genie back in the bottle and this NIL thing is just a fad. They are absolutely clueless on how modern college sports operates. They are stuck in 1995. They are adamant they are not giving money to buy players. They think we should be recruiting the players that play for pride, the love of State and not the love of money. Again, totally clueless on how modern sports operates.

They want to recruit John Christian Taylor over at Oak Hill Academy. He is 5’10 and runs a 5.3 40 but they go to church with his grandfather and he comes from a good family that loves Mississippi State. That is who they want playing for us.

DEDawg
11-08-2025, 10:15 PM
I will go as far as saying if we beat Mizzou we are going to win the Egg Bowl and if we lose, we may lose the Egg Bowl by 3 scores.

I see the latter, we could beat Mizzou and then expectations are high (see today) and we lose by 20. But yeah my original point is we could lose next week and the egg and it?s still a good season based on expectations for the year.

Todd4State
11-08-2025, 10:31 PM
They want to recruit John Christian Taylor over at Oak Hill Academy. He is 5’10 and runs a 5.3 40 but they go to church with his grandfather and he comes from a good family that loves Mississippi State. That is who they want playing for us.

This is so true! And he says "yes sir" and "no sir".

TrapGame
11-08-2025, 10:43 PM
They want to recruit John Christian Taylor over at Oak Hill Academy. He is 5’10 and runs a 5.3 40 but they go to church with his grandfather and he comes from a good family that loves Mississippi State. That is who they want playing for us.

And he has zero D1 or D2 offers, but dadgum it, he's got heart and plays his butt off for four quarters.

Bothrops
11-08-2025, 11:14 PM
1/3 of your roster is always going to be different in today's NCAA football each season.

Sure, but we're going to have all new starters which may sound good, but it's new learning, and new chemistry. No continuity.

Coach34
11-08-2025, 11:34 PM
Sure, but we're going to have all new starters which may sound good, but it's new learning, and new chemistry. No continuity.

So does everybody else.

Mississippi has a new QB and new starting TB
Georgia's QB started at the end of the season due to injury
Bama's QB is a new starter
Texas Tech spent $30MM and bought a new team


college football is all about new rosters now

Dawgology
11-08-2025, 11:37 PM
I see the latter, we could beat Mizzou and then expectations are high (see today) and we lose by 20. But yeah my original point is we could lose next week and the egg and it?s still a good season based on expectations for the year.

Perhaps when compared to pre-season expectations but it quickly became clear that state had the ability to compete so I think it’s ok for expectations to change. State rattles off 4 straight wins and plays blow for blow against TN. State has 5 wins and 3 close losses due to decent coaching by Lebby (but you could argue we barely beat the worst SEC team this year by 3 after they wracked up almost 200 yards of penalty yards and beat ASU on a crazy fluke play). You could also say State is 5-5 and not 8-2 because of lebby’s coaching. If State ends 6-6 then they had a good season. If 5 wins is it then Lebby will 100% be on the hot seat next year.

Coach34
11-08-2025, 11:40 PM
I dont know about a "hot seat" but Lebby will be absolutely expected to go bowling in Y3

Bothrops
11-08-2025, 11:45 PM
So does everybody else.

Mississippi has a new QB and new starting TB
Georgia's QB started at the end of the season due to injury
Bama's QB is a new starter
Texas Tech spent $30MM and bought a new team


college football is all about new rosters now

So we can afford to buy 25-30 or so transfer players that can start and make us better than this year? I just don't see it.

HoopsDawg
11-08-2025, 11:49 PM
So we can afford to buy 25-30 or so transfer players that can start and make us better than this year? I just don't see it.

Of course. See Revenue Sharing.

Coach34
11-08-2025, 11:55 PM
So we can afford to buy 25-30 or so transfer players that can start and make us better than this year? I just don't see it.

We have to. That is today's college football

Todd4State
11-09-2025, 05:03 AM
So we can afford to buy 25-30 or so transfer players that can start and make us better than this year? I just don't see it.

We really only have two problems as I see it.

1. Our offensive and defensive lines suck. I can give Loadholt a pass because of injuries and the fact he came in late. That said I have no idea why Turner is still around. He doesn't like the portal and he has missed on literally every Mississippi defensive line recruit since he came back.

2. Our schedule is absolute bullshit. The SEC did us dirty. And yes, I know it's the SEC and etc. but our schedule is almost all ranked teams at home and our easy games are on the road. Our schedule next year isn't easy but it's a lot more manageable than our schedule this year. Talent wise we are probably a 7-8 win team with a better schedule instead of a 5-6 win team.

My point is we're very close and if Kamario continues to improve and we improve along the lines and take advantage of all of the coaching changes we can turn around and improve pretty quickly. Not sure if that means getting 25-30 new players or not because that seems a little high to me but it might not be. At any rate we can do it.

schddog72
11-09-2025, 07:35 AM
Our only two bad beats this year are to the #3 and #5 teams. Those teams will be in the playoffs. We are not a top 5 team and shouldn?t be surprised when we don?t go toe to toe with them.

Yes Lebby is learning and we should probably have 2 or 3 more wins this season, but in looking at the big picture so far - this team has done damn good.

We need to quit looking at what we just missed and start seeing how good we really are doing.

Now, let?s get behind the team for these last two and go bowling!

White helmet curse!!

MStateDawg
11-09-2025, 07:38 AM
we should probably have 2 or 3 more wins this season,


this team has done damn good.

Both of these things can?t be true. 3 games is 25% of the entire season. You can?t cough up 1/4th of your games and be considered ?damn good?

Goldendawg
11-09-2025, 10:18 AM
I dont know about a "hot seat" but Lebby will be absolutely expected to go bowling in Y3

We may go bowling to a meaningless bowl even at 5-7 if there aren't enough teams at 6-6 and above to fill them. Some teams will decline as they now lose $ to go. Portal player$ will opt out of playing due to injury fears and looking for their next contract. The "we need the extra practices" argument no longer holds as you are flipping the team now every season. If not a CFC game, bowls no longer matter except to fill ESPN time slots and air time. Only the most hardcore fans go now to sit in a 50% full stadium. JMO.

TrapGame
11-09-2025, 10:30 AM
We may go bowling to a meaningless bowl even at 5-7 if there aren't enough teams at 6-6 and above to fill them. Some teams will decline as they now lose $ to go. Portal player$ will opt out of playing due to injury fears and looking for their next contract. The "we need the extra practices" argument no longer holds as you are flipping the team now every season. If not a CFC game, bowls no longer matter except to fill ESPN time slots and air time. Only the most hardcore fans go now to sit in a 50% full stadium. JMO.

Disagree GD. Every extra rep Kamario gets makes him better. Those bowl practices are like a mini camp for the players.

Goldendawg
11-09-2025, 11:08 AM
And he has zero D1 or D2 offers, but dadgum it, he's got heart and plays his butt off for four quarters.

Have y'all checked the offer sheets of the majority of our 22 commits for the 2026 recruiting class, ranked #48 in the nation? Very close to this description for many. It's very concerning.

Goldendawg
11-09-2025, 11:14 AM
Disagree GD. Every extra rep Kamario gets makes him better. Those bowl practices are like a mini camp for the players.

See that point, but probably will be throwing to totally new WR's by the next season. I was mainly thinking of meshing the next year's returning players closer to being a team. I forgot reps to up and coming players as there seem to be so few developed in this portal world.

Dawgology
11-09-2025, 03:14 PM
I will go as far as saying if we beat Mizzou we are going to win the Egg Bowl and if we lose, we may lose the Egg Bowl by 3 scores.

We will lose the Egg Bowl by waaaaaaay more than 3 scores. We have a little glimmer of hope and Ole Miss wants nothing more than to slam that door completely shut. This program is cooked until our boosters decide to go all in on football. They won?t, though, because baseball.

BoomBoom
11-11-2025, 09:20 AM
Our only two bad beats this year are to the #3 and #5 teams. Those teams will be in the playoffs. We are not a top 5 team and shouldn?t be surprised when we don?t go toe to toe with them.

Yes Lebby is learning and we should probably have 2 or 3 more wins this season, but in looking at the big picture so far - this team has done damn good.

We need to quit looking at what we just missed and start seeing how good we really are doing.

Now, let?s get behind the team for these last two and go bowling!

Yep. We go through this every time we climb up that 25 to 35 range. It happened with Mullen,, it happened with Leach. A team in that range will lose by multiple scores to a top 5 team more often than not. And in the SEC, we usually play multiple top 5 teams.