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Quaoarsking
11-21-2025, 11:36 PM
It's built to win 3.5 according to the experts.

But if the "experts" had known that Arkansas and Florida would be terrible and that Tennessee, Texas, Arizona State, and Missouri were all worse than expected, our projected win count would have been a good bit higher than 3.5.

Also, the oddsmakers take coaching into account for every team's total, not just players, and that probably didn't do us any favors.

Cowbeller
11-21-2025, 11:50 PM
I dont get the JoMo and Lebby comparisons. Night and day difference, feel like we have had chances to win this year but with JoMoron I wondered how wed screw up with our talent.

Also Lebby has never rubbed me wrong in a presser but I couldnt listen to anything JoMo said.

DownwardDawg
11-22-2025, 12:16 AM
I dont get the JoMo and Lebby comparisons. Night and day difference, feel like we have had chances to win this year but with JoMoron I wondered how wed screw up with our talent.

Also Lebby has never rubbed me wrong in a presser but I couldnt listen to anything JoMo said.

I agree

Coach34
11-22-2025, 12:34 AM
Lebby is running one of the best offenses in school history. Enough said- especially in a rebuild

Todd4State
11-22-2025, 12:42 AM
But if the "experts" had known that Arkansas and Florida would be terrible and that Tennessee, Texas, Arizona State, and Missouri were all worse than expected, our projected win count would have been a good bit higher than 3.5.

Also, the oddsmakers take coaching into account for every team's total, not just players, and that probably didn't do us any favors.

"Worse than expected"- and yet, Arizona State is a likely 8 win and very possibly 9 win team if they win their rivalry game which is probably a toss up-on the outside of the top 25 barely and has SEC schools interested in interviewing their head coach for openings.

The others are top 25 teams including Texas who also lost in Gainesville to that "terrible" Florida team. Texas also has losses to Ohio State and Georgia. Tennessee has losses to Georgia (common theme for everyone here), Alabama on the road, and Oklahoma. Mizzou is down to their third QB but they are a very good team who has losses to Alabama, Vanderbilt, and Texas A&M- two of those losses by one score.

So, basically you are bitching because we couldn't beat Florida on the road and couldn't pull off a bunch of upsets when we were playing way above our talent level.

So yeah. "Fahr Lebby and get someone who will play a mobile QB."***********************

Todd4State
11-22-2025, 12:44 AM
Lebby is running one of the best offenses in school history. Enough said- especially in a rebuild

Yeah! And in fact it's basically as good as Alabama's statistically. But there are people out there that think that there is a chance we get shut out in the Egg Bowl like 2008. And let's be honest, us getting shut out in 2008 in the Egg Bowl wasn't THAT shocking. But the offenses are completely different animals. Lebby's offense right now is comparable to Dan's offense in 2017 statistically.

Quaoarsking
11-22-2025, 01:12 AM
"Worse than expected"- and yet, Arizona State is a likely 8 win and very possibly 9 win team if they win their rivalry game which is probably a toss up-on the outside of the top 25 barely and has SEC schools interested in interviewing their head coach for openings.
OK, but they were ranked #12 at the time and widely expected to be a playoff contender, so yes, worse than expected.

I'm thrilled he won that game, but come on, winning a home game over a team that doesn't finished ranked is a basic, baseline expectation for any coach. Mullen and Leach generally did that here.


The others are top 25 teams including Texas who also lost in Gainesville to that "terrible" Florida team. Texas also has losses to Ohio State and Georgia. Tennessee has losses to Georgia (common theme for everyone here), Alabama on the road, and Oklahoma. Mizzou is down to their third QB but they are a very good team who has losses to Alabama, Vanderbilt, and Texas A&M- two of those losses by one score.
And again, my point wasn't that those teams aren't good, it's that everyone's preseason expectations were made under the impression that those teams were a lot better than they actually turned out to be. Everyone would have predicted more wins for this year's team if they'd known that 6 of our 9 P4 opponents were clearly worse than we were all thinking. We kinda got lucky with the schedule this year and didn't take advantage of it.


So, basically you are bitching because we couldn't beat Florida on the road and couldn't pull off a bunch of upsets when we were playing way above our talent level.
We should have beaten a 3-9 team that was known to be firing his coach. Period. 100%. Any loss in that situation was unacceptable, but the fact that it's largely because Lebby made very rudimentary coaching errors is even worse on him.

We also should have beaten Texas (a team that's one of Florida's 3 wins and has been mediocre for most of the season, despite the record) once we got up by 17 with 10 minutes to go. If we'd only lost because we got out-talented, I could live with it (like I like with the A&M and Georgia losses, despite Lebby having some questionable decisions in both of those) but when we were snapping the ball many times with 20 seconds on the play clock after that, then no, that's unacceptable.

I know we're "poor ol' Mississippi State" and can't expect to beat programs like Florida even when they suck or Texas even when they are a shadow of their former selves and we have a 17-point lead in the 4th quarter, but I hold us to a higher standard. If Mullen or Leach or Moorhead or whoever had blown either of those games, they would rightfully have gotten just as much blowback from the fanbase.



"Fahr Lebby and get someone who will play a mobile QB."***********************
I don't know why you keep making this point at me when I have never said that Lebby has to play Taylor or any particular QB. I've always said personnel decisions are solely the call of the head coach, but he will have to live with the consequences of how his preferred players/coaches perform.

Quaoarsking
11-22-2025, 01:28 AM
Note: I went through our schedules and looked at records in home games against Power Five/Four teams who did not finish ranked:


Mullen: 16-2, with losses to 2016 Arkansas and 2017 Ole Miss
Moorhead: 4-1, loss to 2019 Kansas State
Leach: 5-3, losses to 2020 Arkansas, 2020 Auburn, and 2021 LSU
Arnett: 0-1, lost to 2023 Kentucky
Lebby: In 2024 he was 0-3, losing to Florida, Texas A&M, and Arkansas. We'll see about this year, but probably 1-0 if Arizona State finishes unranked and Texas finishes ranked, but neither of those is certain.


This reminds me of the earlier question of whether Mullen or Leach generally won games similar to the Arizona State and Texas games, and I think the answer is that they probably would have.

Todd4State
11-22-2025, 01:53 AM
OK, but they were ranked #12 at the time and widely expected to be a playoff contender, so yes, worse than expected.

I'm thrilled he won that game, but come on, winning a home game over a team that doesn't finished ranked is a basic, baseline expectation for any coach. Mullen and Leach generally did that here.


And again, my point wasn't that those teams aren't good, it's that everyone's preseason expectations were made under the impression that those teams were a lot better than they actually turned out to be. Everyone would have predicted more wins for this year's team if they'd known that 6 of our 9 P4 opponents were clearly worse than we were all thinking. We kinda got lucky with the schedule this year and didn't take advantage of it.


We should have beaten a 3-9 team that was known to be firing his coach. Period. 100%. Any loss in that situation was unacceptable, but the fact that it's largely because Lebby made very rudimentary coaching errors is even worse on him.

We also should have beaten Texas (a team that's one of Florida's 3 wins and has been mediocre for most of the season, despite the record) once we got up by 17 with 10 minutes to go. If we'd only lost because we got out-talented, I could live with it (like I like with the A&M and Georgia losses, despite Lebby having some questionable decisions in both of those) but when we were snapping the ball many times with 20 seconds on the play clock after that, then no, that's unacceptable.

I know we're "poor ol' Mississippi State" and can't expect to beat programs like Florida even when they suck or Texas even when they are a shadow of their former selves and we have a 17-point lead in the 4th quarter, but I hold us to a higher standard. If Mullen or Leach or Moorhead or whoever had blown either of those games, they would rightfully have gotten just as much blowback from the fanbase.



I don't know why you keep making this point at me when I have never said that Lebby has to play Taylor or any particular QB. I've always said personnel decisions are solely the call of the head coach, but he will have to live with the consequences of how his preferred players/coaches perform.

That's all a bunch of bullshit because the reality is even if those teams were "worse" than projected they're still all a lot better than what WE were projected. There's still a talent gap there. Saying that our win over Arizona State is overrated because they won't win their conference while winning 8-9 games is the Mississippi State thing ever.

And to say that our schedule was "lucky" is laughable at best. Ask Ole Miss if they would trade schedules with us.

We did lose to Texas because we got out talented. We tried to run the ball and the clock in the fourth quarter. We couldn't do it. Why? Because our offensive line was gassed. That's a talent and depth issue. That's an example of our fans being football ignorant. "Damn Lebby. That didn't work. Fire him!" Yes, we shouldn't have punted to their guy. We still should have gotten him down regardless. We didn't. Why? Because our players aren't as good as him. And this is a HUNH offense basically. When you ask them to slow down it knocks them out of rhythm sometimes. Partially what happened against Texas. So what do you do? Do keep trying to stay in rhythm which has worked the whole game or do you run clock with a less than talented offensive line that is gassed? The answer is to improve your offensive line.

Todd4State
11-22-2025, 01:55 AM
Note: I went through our schedules and looked at records in home games against Power Five/Four teams who did not finish ranked:


Mullen: 16-2, with losses to 2016 Arkansas and 2017 Ole Miss
Moorhead: 4-1, loss to 2019 Kansas State
Leach: 5-3, losses to 2020 Arkansas, 2020 Auburn, and 2021 LSU
Arnett: 0-1, lost to 2023 Kentucky
Lebby: In 2024 he was 0-3, losing to Florida, Texas A&M, and Arkansas. We'll see about this year, but probably 1-0 if Arizona State finishes unranked and Texas finishes ranked, but neither of those is certain.


This reminds me of the earlier question of whether Mullen or Leach generally won games similar to the Arizona State and Texas games, and I think the answer is that they probably would have.

Mullen lost to Oklahoma State and BYU when the P5 mandate started. Leach won all of his P5 mandate games. Texas is still ranked and I wouldn't say it's impossible that Arizona State ends up ranked at the end of the year too especially if they win their last two.

Maroonthirteen
11-22-2025, 05:32 AM
Anyways......since Lane to LSU.....Loafers better land Drink at UF...

who takes the OM Job? I guess the next HC battle is OM v Auburn for Sumrall?

Will Florida State come open? They may finish with a losing season.

Will Texas be open.....Sark to NFL?

Will Lebby become a candidate when the dominoes start falling?

The coaching carousel is about to start spinning like a top.

msstate7
11-22-2025, 06:58 AM
Mullen lost to Oklahoma State and BYU when the P5 mandate started. Leach won all of his P5 mandate games. Texas is still ranked and I wouldn't say it's impossible that Arizona State ends up ranked at the end of the year too especially if they win their last two.

Neither of those were home games

DEDawg
11-22-2025, 10:01 AM
Napier in Y1= 3 sec wins. Napier in Y2 = 3 sec wins
Lebby in Y1 = 0 sec wins. Lebby in Y2 = 1 sec win

Lebby is an ace. Napier sucks

I can make any argument too with zero context.

DEDawg
11-22-2025, 10:09 AM
But if the "experts" had known that Arkansas and Florida would be terrible and that Tennessee, Texas, Arizona State, and Missouri were all worse than expected, our projected win count would have been a good bit higher than 3.5.

Also, the oddsmakers take coaching into account for every team's total, not just players, and that probably didn't do us any favors.

What's your point? It was 3.5 which was exactly right for us but if we play your game and say it should be "way higher" that probably is 2 games to 5.5 which is exactly where we are.

Regardless it's a non sensical argument those teams you listed are all about where people expected them to be except for Texas which is still a top 15 team.

Quaoarsking
11-22-2025, 10:17 AM
What's your point? It was 3.5 which was exactly right for us but if we play your game and say it should be "way higher" that probably is 2 games to 5.5 which is exactly where we are.

Regardless it's a non sensical argument those teams you listed are all about where people expected them to be except for Texas which is still a top 15 team.

People expected preseason #15 Florida to finish 3-9?

Goldendawg
11-22-2025, 10:21 AM
That's all a bunch of bullshit because the reality is even if those teams were "worse" than projected they're still all a lot better than what WE were projected. There's still a talent gap there. Saying that our win over Arizona State is overrated because they won't win their conference while winning 8-9 games is the Mississippi State thing ever.

And to say that our schedule was "lucky" is laughable at best. Ask Ole Miss if they would trade schedules with us.

We did lose to Texas because we got out talented. We tried to run the ball and the clock in the fourth quarter. We couldn't do it. Why? Because our offensive line was gassed. That's a talent and depth issue. That's an example of our fans being football ignorant. "Damn Lebby. That didn't work. Fire him!" Yes, we shouldn't have punted to their guy. We still should have gotten him down regardless. We didn't. Why? Because our players aren't as good as him. And this is a HUNH offense basically. When you ask them to slow down it knocks them out of rhythm sometimes. Partially what happened against Texas. So what do you do? Do keep trying to stay in rhythm which has worked the whole game or do you run clock with a less than talented offensive line that is gassed? The answer is to improve your offensive line.

Once again our fans are not "football ignorant". Give that a rest. We all want MSU to win , even though we have different opinions on how to get it done and are tired of close losses when very questionable in game decisions were made by our HC. I know no one who is calling him to be fired, just win asap! Year three is his to get over this hump. Hail State!

DEDawg
11-22-2025, 10:28 AM
People expected preseason #15 Florida to finish 3-9?

6.5 was their pre season win/loss so they did under achieve

Brobi-wan
11-22-2025, 10:48 AM
Lebby won’t be fired, so who cares? It’s fine if y’all don’t like him. Start a thread for it. This conversation is in every thread atm

Coursesuper
11-22-2025, 10:55 AM
Lebby won’t be fired, so who cares? It’s fine if y’all don’t like him. Start a thread for it. This conversation is in every thread atm

Exactly

Tater
11-22-2025, 11:00 AM
But if the "experts" had known that Arkansas and Florida would be terrible and that Tennessee, Texas, Arizona State, and Missouri were all worse than expected, our projected win count would have been a good bit higher than 3.5.

Also, the oddsmakers take coaching into account for every team's total, not just players, and that probably didn't do us any favors.

I definitely remember crowing before the season about how our schedule wasn't all it was caked up to be. That we had real shots.

We blew em for sure. But I think I was saying 10-11 winnable games. I was wrong on Aggy and that's about it. OM getting Simmons hurt really ****ed it up - Chambliss is the best QB in their history.

The Federalist Engineer
11-22-2025, 11:28 AM
Gonna get some eye rolls...

I would get Bob Stoops for a good Cost and then Let him hire high quality assistants. Let BS be the GM of Football.

That's if I were an AD looking for a coach. BS is the Walmart Saban. But probably neither guy wants to run a program anymore.

Santiago
11-22-2025, 11:38 AM
Hogs 247 moderator floating Dabo as a rumor he is hearing. But I wonder if that is just a distraction for the weekend away from whoever the real coach is.

Turfdawg67
11-22-2025, 12:37 PM
Lebby won?t be fired, so who cares? It?s fine if y?all don?t like him. Start a thread for it. This conversation is in every thread atm

Killing every thread. Like little Chatty Cathy dolls that won't shut the 17 up.

msstate7
11-22-2025, 12:47 PM
Jomo had way more talent than Lebby has at every position on defense and O Line and that's not even debatable. I think we all can agree there. Lebby has done more with less. I agree with most on here.. Lebby's and Jomo's in game decision making isn't separated by much. Lebby has done way more with less tho, imo. His offense is 10x better than Jomo.

Jomo sucked. As of now, I give the edge to Lebby. I would like to see Lebby with the 2018 team and see how it went.

Jomo turned a 10-win team into 8 imo.
Lebby still has a game left, but so far, I feel like he's turned a 6-7 win team into 5.

And if you come back with preseason win totals this season, keep in mind that our win total was 8.5 in 2018 for Moorhead's first season

https://247sports.com/contentgallery/sec-football-updated-team-by-team-win-totals-for-2018-119130969/#917062

DEDawg
11-22-2025, 12:56 PM
Jomo turned a 10-win team into 8 imo.
Lebby still has a game left, but so far, I feel like he's turned a 6-7 win team into 5.

And if you come back with preseason win totals this season, keep in mind that our win total was 8.5 in 2018 for Moorhead's first season

https://247sports.com/contentgallery/sec-football-updated-team-by-team-win-totals-for-2018-119130969/#917062
So you are saying JMo under performed by half a game and Lebby over performed by 1.5 games with one more game to be played

msstate7
11-22-2025, 12:58 PM
So you are saying JMo under performed by half a game and Lebby over performed by 1.5 games with one more game to be played

No, I'm saying preseason win totals is a horrible way to judge a coach. That 2018 team was a 10-win team, but Joe sucks

Coursesuper
11-22-2025, 01:01 PM
So you are saying JMo under performed by half a game and Lebby over performed by 1.5 games with one more game to be played

Comparing those two is like trying to compare apples to gourds.

msstate7
11-22-2025, 01:03 PM
Comparing those two is like trying to compare apples to gourds.

They both suck, but I do think Lebby sucks less

Coursesuper
11-22-2025, 01:18 PM
They both suck, but I do think Lebby sucks less

This post is made with zero context, per usual. The only thing that these situations have in common is MSU football. Please, Mr 800 k post count, just save it. We all know where you fall and trust me this post is really not a reply to you.

msstate7
11-22-2025, 01:25 PM
This post is made with zero context, per usual. The only thing that these situations have in common is MSU football. Please, Mr 800 k post count, just save it. We all know where you fall and trust me this post is really not a reply to you.

I'm sorry I hurt your feelings, but trust me, it's nothing personal with you. I'm discussing the topic, while you and your minions always go straight to attacking the poster(s). Guess that makes sense when you have nothing to support your opinion.

Maroon Glasses
11-22-2025, 01:35 PM
Did anyone see what Coach Saban said about changing the recruiting schedules to match academic schedules on Gameday? Also brought up the point that the NCAA should be like the NFL and not allow coaches to negotiate with other teams until the season ends. His main argument was doing it for the players so they don't have to worry about all the outside noise during the season.

Thoughts?

Coursesuper
11-22-2025, 01:39 PM
I'm sorry I hurt your feelings

Ha, I’m a Marine and a 30 year golfer course super you couldn’t hurt my feelings on the hurtingest day of the year with an electrified hurting machine.

msstate7
11-22-2025, 01:41 PM
Ha, I’m a Marine and a 30 year golfer course super you couldn’t hurt my feelings on the hurtingest day of the year with an electrified hurting machine.

Good deal.

Todd4State
11-22-2025, 01:43 PM
No, I'm saying preseason win totals is a horrible way to judge a coach. That 2018 team was a 10-win team, but Joe sucks

Especially when it doesn't fit your narrative.

Todd4State
11-22-2025, 01:44 PM
Killing every thread. Like little Chatty Cathy dolls that won't shut the 17 up.

Only coaching changes we should be discussing are on the defensive side of the ball at MSU.

DEDawg
11-22-2025, 01:46 PM
No, I'm saying preseason win totals is a horrible way to judge a coach. That 2018 team was a 10-win team, but Joe sucks

but the coach is factored into win numbers so that doesn't make sense. Vegas judges the coach as part of the overall totals and usually are pretty close. Vegas knew nothing about JMo so docked us a game for that (they were right - JMo cost us 2). It would have been 9.5 if Dan stayed. They couldn't make a determination on Lebby because he was working with the worst P4 roster last year and gave us 3.5.

If Saban was our coach in 2018 then our win total would have been 10.5.

msstate7
11-22-2025, 01:47 PM
Especially when it doesn't fit your narrative.

What if I told you Vegas sets win totals on public perception, not what they think the win total will actually be?

Todd4State
11-22-2025, 01:48 PM
Did anyone see what Coach Saban said about changing the recruiting schedules to match academic schedules on Gameday? Also brought up the point that the NCAA should be like the NFL and not allow coaches to negotiate with other teams until the season ends. His main argument was doing it for the players so they don't have to worry about all the outside noise during the season.

Thoughts?

Would have some good/some bad consequences like everything else. If you move the recruiting calendar and all of that back players wouldn't be able to enroll in December and participate in bowl practice. Players still have the option to sign in February as it is. If they're concerned about coaching changes that is still an option for them.

Personally if a coach wants to leave they're going to be doing everything under the table anyway and I would rather them go ahead and leave ASAP rather than just stay around.

msstate7
11-22-2025, 01:49 PM
but the coach is factored into win numbers so that doesn't make sense. Vegas judges the coach as part of the overall totals and usually are pretty close. Vegas knew nothing about JMo so docked us a game for that (they were right - JMo cost us 2). It would have been 9.5 if Dan stayed. They couldn't make a determination on Lebby because he was working with the worst P4 roster last year and gave us 3.5.

If Saban was our coach in 2018 then our win total would have been 10.5.

Vegas sets the win total on what avg Joe thinks a win total will be to get action on both sides. They aren't saying what they think a team will actually win

Todd4State
11-22-2025, 01:50 PM
What if I told you Vegas sets win totals on public perception, not what they think the win total will actually be?

Then that means we are still better in the eyes of everyone that follows college football fans except for a few of our dumbass fans like you.

DEDawg
11-22-2025, 01:52 PM
Vegas sets the win total on what avg Joe thinks a win total will be to get action on both sides. They aren't saying what they think a team will actually win

and 99% of the time that is the same thing. replace everything in the post you quoted where I said "Vegas" with "avg Joe" and its the exact same point.

msstate7
11-22-2025, 01:53 PM
Then that means we are still better in the eyes of everyone that follows college football fans except for a few of our dumbass fans like you.

A few? He's lost the X/message board crowd. I only have anecdotal evidence, but In my personal circles, it's 60/40 anti-Lebby

msstate7
11-22-2025, 01:55 PM
Lebby can get the whole fanbase behind him with a win Friday. If we get blown out though, he's a lame duck entering next season. This is a huge game for Lebby

Quaoarsking
11-22-2025, 02:06 PM
Outside of Starkville, nobody could believe we fired Moorhead or Arnett when we did, and a lot of people were even surprised we fired Croom. Of course we know our own situation better than others. Just like Virginia Tech fans knew their situation better than we did, and UCLA fans, etc., etc.

Tater
11-22-2025, 03:08 PM
Lebby can get the whole fanbase behind him with a win Friday. If we get blown out though, he's a lame duck entering next season. This is a huge game for Lebby

He's had a lot of "huge games" this year.

ASU - barely won
UTK - barely lost
UFired - barely lost
UTAustin - barely lost
Arky - barely won

Hopefully he evens it out, but it's a sign for a nail biter. I think most every state fan will take our chances with a close game in the last 5 minutes. Yea big chance our coach royally ****s it up, buttttttt he didn't **** it up in two of those chances. Overall 40% odds is objectively what we're looking at (hand waving opponent level obviously lol).

A 2013 style win with Kamario playing the role of Dak (i know Dak was the true starter and just injured) would galvanize the fanbase. Propel us to 6-6 and a bowl game against a shitty school. Win that. Look ahead at a schedule full of teams with ?s. Keep KT / Isaac and upgrade the OL/DL. State could have a 2014 style year next year.

Hope is dangerous. It can drive a man insane. I'm choosing to be insane until 11 AM on friday rather than being proactively pessimistic. Insane people have more fun.

msstate7
11-22-2025, 03:28 PM
He's had a lot of "huge games" this year.

ASU - barely won
UTK - barely lost
UFired - barely lost
UTAustin - barely lost
Arky - barely won

Hopefully he evens it out, but it's a sign for a nail biter. I think most every state fan will take our chances with a close game in the last 5 minutes. Yea big chance our coach royally ****s it up, buttttttt he didn't **** it up in two of those chances. Overall 40% odds is objectively what we're looking at (hand waving opponent level obviously lol).

A 2013 style win with Kamario playing the role of Dak (i know Dak was the true starter and just injured) would galvanize the fanbase. Propel us to 6-6 and a bowl game against a shitty school. Win that. Look ahead at a schedule full of teams with ?s. Keep KT / Isaac and upgrade the OL/DL. State could have a 2014 style year next year.

Hope is dangerous. It can drive a man insane. I'm choosing to be insane until 11 AM on friday rather than being proactively pessimistic. Insane people have more fun.

I actually feel better about the egg now than I have all season. I think the combo of them being distracted and us being embarrassed at mizzou is gonna have us ready to pounce. I really hope Friday night and Saturday is a whole bunch of calling me out... I will be here to take my medicine.

Todd4State
11-22-2025, 03:34 PM
A few? He's lost the X/message board crowd. I only have anecdotal evidence, but In my personal circles, it's 60/40 anti-Lebby

I'm talking about on a national level. Not MSU. And if 60% of our fans are anti-Lebby at this point is proves my point that our fan base has stupid fans.

Tater
11-22-2025, 03:34 PM
I actually feel better about the egg now than I have all season. I think the combo of them being distracted and us being embarrassed at mizzou is gonna have us ready to pounce. I really hope Friday night and Saturday is a whole bunch of calling me out... I will be here to take my medicine.

Same. Karmically it would be a beautiful cash-in from the universe.

ZedFedder
11-22-2025, 03:44 PM
Can we keep this thread on topic

Todd4State
11-22-2025, 03:44 PM
Some of the Lane Kiffin stuff on X is pretty brutal.

Their fans are either in denial that he is leaving or they're making buttons for the Egg Bowl that say FULK.

PGHBulldogBG
11-22-2025, 03:52 PM
Where is LSU on the Brian Kelly firing/buyout situation. I wonder if the results of that will impact the hiring

msstate7
11-22-2025, 04:35 PM
Any chance we can talk Dj Durkin into being our DC?

DownwardDawg
11-22-2025, 04:38 PM
Can we keep this thread on topic

I would really like that. I come here for rumors!!!

Coursesuper
11-22-2025, 04:43 PM
Can we keep this thread on topic

Agree, and I’m guilty of not doing exactly that. Better thread for coaching rumors than other BS.

DEDawg
11-22-2025, 04:48 PM
Any chance we can talk Dj Durkin into being our DC?

He's making 2.5M so it would need to be 3M to even start the convo but I'm pretty sure he will get a HC job this cycle. There's about to be a ton of dominos falling

Pancho
11-22-2025, 05:03 PM
If aubie is smart, they hire Durkin as HC. but is aubie smart?

Todd4State
11-22-2025, 05:24 PM
He's making 2.5M so it would need to be 3M to even start the convo but I'm pretty sure he will get a HC job this cycle. There's about to be a ton of dominos falling

If he doesn't have job he may have to take what he can get. That said if it takes 3 million to get him I'm good with that but we're probably going to have to give Lebby a raise too since he's getting 4.5 million.

Maroon Glasses
11-22-2025, 05:28 PM
Where is LSU on the Brian Kelly firing/buyout situation. I wonder if the results of that will impact the hiring

Last i read... LSU offered him 30 mill and then 25 mill. He turned down both and is demanding the full 53 mill buyout. It's a mess. And I read somewhere that it does not effect Kiffin and his deal of 13 mill a year (90 mill total) and a guarantee of 25 mill a year for NIL.

msstate7
11-22-2025, 05:29 PM
If aubie is smart, they hire Durkin as HC. but is aubie smart?

I'd be after Willie Fritz if I were auburn.

Tater
11-22-2025, 05:44 PM
Hiring durkin as HC is a worker's comp suit waiting to happen.

Huff should have game prepped instead of reading tiger droppings and hoping that he indeed does have an interview lined up with Ole Miss.

msstate7
11-22-2025, 05:47 PM
Hiring durkin as HC is a worker's comp suit waiting to happen.

Huff should have game prepped instead of reading tiger droppings and hoping that he indeed does have an interview lined up with Ole Miss.

I've watched some of that game, and yikes. They getting blasted

The Federalist Engineer
11-22-2025, 06:35 PM
Staying on Topic

These desperate and delusional programs are going to come and snatch my boy Rhett Lashlee.

If Lebby weren't Hog-and-14, he would be interviewing too.

I guess that is the perk of your coach being considered Toxic waste. No interviews and distractions.

msstate7
11-22-2025, 06:37 PM
Staying on Topic

These desperate and delusional programs are going to come and snatch my boy Rhett Lashlee.

If Lebby weren't Hog-and-14, he would be interviewing too.

I guess that is the perk of your coach being considered Toxic waste. No interviews and distractions.

Auburn, maybe. I can't see Ark pulling him unless Tyson and Walmart decide to make ark a contender

Coursesuper
11-22-2025, 06:47 PM
From what my Ark friends are saying they feel like they have a deal done. If so it could be someone not currently coaching.

msstate7
11-22-2025, 06:51 PM
From what my Ark friends are saying they feel like they have a deal done. If so it could be someone not currently coaching.
Any names? We need them to jack this hire up

DawgFromOxford
11-22-2025, 06:54 PM
From what my Ark friends are saying they feel like they have a deal done. If so it could be someone not currently coaching.

Saban to Arkansas. You heard it here first ***

Rejlector84sports
11-22-2025, 07:20 PM
Any names? We need them to jack this hire up

Call for Jimbo! Call for Jimbo!

And they won't have to pay him a lot -- spend that Walton and Tyson money on NIL...

msstate7
11-22-2025, 07:23 PM
Call for Jimbo! Call for Jimbo!

And they won't have to pay him a lot -- spend that Walton and Tyson money on NIL...

That would be an interesting hire. Has the time away helped him get his head on right? I think he can coach if he's engaged

Todd4State
11-22-2025, 07:34 PM
Hiring durkin as HC is a worker's comp suit waiting to happen.

Huff should have game prepped instead of reading tiger droppings and hoping that he indeed does have an interview lined up with Ole Miss.

I don't understand the infatuation that some have with Huff.

Todd4State
11-22-2025, 07:37 PM
I want Joe Judge to get a job at Tulane or UAB this offseason. We need to see if he has the chops for coaching college football.

Brobi-wan
11-22-2025, 07:40 PM
I don't understand the infatuation that some have with Huff.

I agree. Good coach, but that doesn’t mean an SEC coach. I would take Lebby over him 10/10 times

PGHBulldogBG
11-22-2025, 07:44 PM
I don't understand the infatuation that some have with Huff.

Me neither I don?t get it either. I don?t get the love affair with Sumrall either. He is winning with Willie Fritz players. Reminds me of Napier winning with Huds players at ULL

1eyedog
11-22-2025, 07:46 PM
Guys as I was scrolling today I heard a talking head say that since LK has been at the ditch he has not won a game when trailing by a td going into the last 7 1/2 minutes. I can?t believe it but almost positive I heard correctly. Can anyone verify this?

msstate7
11-22-2025, 07:52 PM
Guys as I was scrolling today I heard a talking head say that since LK has been at the ditch he has not won a game when trailing by a td going into the last 7 1/2 minutes. I can?t believe it but almost positive I heard correctly. Can anyone verify this?

What a weird stat. Guess he has won a game trailing by a td with 8 mins or 7:31 left

1eyedog
11-22-2025, 08:13 PM
More interesting if true than weird, one would think the offensive LK would have several closing minutes big comebacks. Just wondering if anyone else heard that reel.

DownwardDawg
11-22-2025, 08:18 PM
I want Joe Judge to get a job at Tulane or UAB this offseason. We need to see if he has the chops for coaching college football.

Me too.

msstate7
11-22-2025, 09:00 PM
I want Joe Judge to get a job at Tulane or UAB this offseason. We need to see if he has the chops for coaching college football.

Good call

Coursesuper
11-22-2025, 09:04 PM
I want Joe Judge to get a job at Tulane or UAB this offseason. We need to see if he has the chops for coaching college football.

Saban couldn’t win at UAB. That job has so many built in disadvantages. Jax State and Troy on the other hand you have a fighting chance.

1eyedog
11-22-2025, 09:05 PM
Found the reel talking about LK not winning when down by a td with at at least 7 1/2 to play while at the ditch. Weird stat, don’t you think.... 7?

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1D7TENP4UR/?mibextid=wwXI

msstate7
11-22-2025, 09:22 PM
Found the reel talking about LK not winning when down by a td with at at least 7 1/2 to play while at the ditch. Weird stat, don’t you think.... 7?

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1D7TENP4UR/?mibextid=wwXI

Yes, it's weird. 7.5 mins? How many times has he been down 1 score with 7.5 mins left?

1eyedog
11-22-2025, 09:26 PM
Yes, it's weird. 7.5 mins? How many times has he been down 1 score with 7.5 mins left?
Pertinent question, I’m working on that. Not many apparently.

Homedawg
11-22-2025, 11:57 PM
Call for Jimbo! Call for Jimbo!

And they won't have to pay him a lot -- spend that Walton and Tyson money on NIL...

The Walton's don't spend. A ton of money on ark athletics. Not sure about Tyson but I think those two are both over killed.

WPS
11-23-2025, 12:48 AM
The Walton's don't spend. A ton of money on ark athletics. Not sure about Tyson but I think those two are both over killed.

Tyson gives a ton for basketball but John Tyson and Calipari were close friends even when he was at Kentucky. He was the main person responsible for that hire. There have been reports that Tyson is trying to get more involved with financial backing in football during this search but it?s also probably contingent on who the hire ends up being. That?s the annoying thing sometimes with big money boosters is they?re so stubborn with only supporting ?their guys?.

Walmart?s CEO (an Arkansas alum) just announced his retirement and some have said he may try to get involved in launching NIL ventures, so we?ll see.

Todd4State
11-23-2025, 02:35 AM
Saban couldn?t win at UAB. That job has so many built in disadvantages. Jax State and Troy on the other hand you have a fighting chance.

I agree that UAB is a dead end job. I would prefer him be at Tulane- being "realistic" about what jobs I think will come open. Somewhere like Memphis would be good too.

Tulane to me would be the best option because it's a good situation and he'll be able to continue their run relatively easily.

TrapGame
11-24-2025, 12:12 PM
Anybody else heard the rumor that LSU has shutdown their coaching search? There are no interviews scheduled for the foreseeable future.

StarkVegasSteve
11-24-2025, 12:25 PM
Anybody else heard the rumor that LSU has shutdown their coaching search? There are no interviews scheduled for the foreseeable future.

That's not a rumor at this point. LSU has pushed their chips to the middle on Kiffin.

Really Clark?
11-24-2025, 01:28 PM
People expected preseason #15 Florida to finish 3-9?

Vegas had Florida at 6.5 wins, that is probably the experts to look at closer when comparing. They thought they were going to be down again.

BlackSailsDawg
11-24-2025, 02:55 PM
Tyson gives a ton for basketball but John Tyson and Calipari were close friends even when he was at Kentucky. He was the main person responsible for that hire. There have been reports that Tyson is trying to get more involved with financial backing in football during this search but it?s also probably contingent on who the hire ends up being. That?s the annoying thing sometimes with big money boosters is they?re so stubborn with only supporting ?their guys?.

Walmart?s CEO (an Arkansas alum) just announced his retirement and some have said he may try to get involved in launching NIL ventures, so we?ll see.


More money is flowing into Arkansas Football. That's happening.

The Federalist Engineer
11-24-2025, 03:59 PM
Seems that some of the job opening are Kiffin or Bust.

Some of these schools need to call back the dude on Contract and try again. Anyone with Eli Drink has to tell the fan base they only landed the 2nd or 3rd choice. If they bring home Dead Fish, then they are getting a 4th choice X-O guy. Lincoln Riley is a dude that can't win at USC and with George Lucas and Nike money.

Imagine being Eli_Drink as the Temu Lane Kiffin. "We want you to be interested but please let us see if Lane is still in play."

TrapGame
11-24-2025, 04:14 PM
Seems that some of the job opening are Kiffin or Bust.

Some of these schools need to call back the dude on Contract and try again. Anyone with Eli Drink has to tell the fan base they only landed the 2nd or 3rd choice. If they bring home Dead Fish, then they are getting a 4th choice X-O guy. Lincoln Riley is a dude that can't win at USC and with George Lucas and Nike money.

Imagine being Eli_Drink as the Temu Lane Kiffin. "We want you to be interested but please let us see if Lane is still in play."

Drink really, really hopes Kiffin doesn?t get the Florida job. He really does not give a rip if he is #2 on the list. He wants the job. If Kiffin does not go to Florida I expect to hear official word that Drink and Florida are in serious negotiations.

PGHBulldogBG
11-24-2025, 04:17 PM
Drink really, really hopes Kiffin doesn?t get the Florida job. He really does not give a rip if he is #2 on the list. He wants the job. If Kiffin does not go to Florida I expect to hear official word that Drink and Florida are in serious negotiations.

Drink is basically Mizzou?s Mullen. Typically wins the games he is supposed to win but has a 1-10 record in big games. That 1 win came against an Ohio State team that was playing all backups.

TrapGame
11-24-2025, 07:34 PM
I watched a podcast from a local Tennessee sports radio guy this afternoon. He says his Tennessee insiders are hearing that Josh Heupel is #2 on LSU's list if Kiffin stays at OM or goes to Florida.

Pancho
11-25-2025, 08:23 AM
sounds plausible

Santiago
11-25-2025, 10:01 AM
Tyson gives a ton for basketball but John Tyson and Calipari were close friends even when he was at Kentucky. He was the main person responsible for that hire. There have been reports that Tyson is trying to get more involved with financial backing in football during this search but it?s also probably contingent on who the hire ends up being. That?s the annoying thing sometimes with big money boosters is they?re so stubborn with only supporting ?their guys?.

Walmart?s CEO (an Arkansas alum) just announced his retirement and some have said he may try to get involved in launching NIL ventures, so we?ll see.

Saw on another board, it is mentioned that Arkansas has the lowest NIL in SEC football, and do not seem to be looking to make ground in any upcoming seasons. Their money is spread over other sports. They need those walmart folks , but the entire SEC is leaving them.

parabrave
11-25-2025, 12:23 PM
Tyson gives a ton for basketball but John Tyson and Calipari were close friends even when he was at Kentucky. He was the main person responsible for that hire. There have been reports that Tyson is trying to get more involved with financial backing in football during this search but it?s also probably contingent on who the hire ends up being. That?s the annoying thing sometimes with big money boosters is they?re so stubborn with only supporting ?their guys?.

Walmart?s CEO (an Arkansas alum) just announced his retirement and some have said he may try to get involved in launching NIL ventures, so we?ll see.

One of Wally worlds largest shareholder, Daughter in law, is more interested in other things besides sports

DownwardDawg
11-25-2025, 01:46 PM
It's been really quite the past few days.

Tater
11-25-2025, 01:50 PM
It's been really quite the past few days.

Because it's locked up and LSU / OM both allowed Lane to finish out the season and he'll be announced at 7/98 on Saturday as LSU's next coach.

Florida is already having other coaches leak. - If this was an elaborate troll job they wouldn't be looking elsewhere. It's LSU.

Brobi-wan
11-25-2025, 03:04 PM
Because it's locked up and LSU / OM both allowed Lane to finish out the season and he'll be announced at 7/98 on Saturday as LSU's next coach.

Florida is already having other coaches leak. - If this was an elaborate troll job they wouldn't be looking elsewhere. It's LSU.

Some EDs have overactive imaginations. He’s gone

BlackSailsDawg
11-25-2025, 03:54 PM
Saw on another board, it is mentioned that Arkansas has the lowest NIL in SEC football, and do not seem to be looking to make ground in any upcoming seasons. Their money is spread over other sports. They need those walmart folks , but the entire SEC is leaving them.


Whatever that other board, they are out of touch. Arkansas matched what Franklin wanted plus more to try and land him. In the end, Franklin saw the SEC as the hardest path. Walmart heirs are not their only source. Jone, JB Hunt, Tyson and the Walmart Heirs. the former CEO of Walmart is already pushing it. Doug McMillon retires in 2026 and will become involved. As the CEO, Walmart has expanded its corporate sponsorships with the University of Arkansas's athletic programs.

Pancho
11-25-2025, 04:01 PM
Now some are saying Lane mite change his mind and stay.

StarkVegasSteve
11-25-2025, 04:14 PM
Now some are saying Lane mite change his mind and stay.

Yea that's emanating from Facebook. And we know nothing posted on Facebook is fake. There's ZERO truth to it.


I've said it since LSU became really involved: Lane wants to coach LSU but he wants to coach OM in the playoff. He wants all eyes on Lane for as long as possible. He wants OM to tell him he can't coach them in the playoffs without signing an extension so he can play the "victim" at his introductory press conference.

So while staying may technically be true. It's because he wants to stay to coach the playoffs and then leave. OM is not going to let him do that.

Pancho
11-25-2025, 04:16 PM
I spoke to a realtor and a home inspector who say there might be some more assistant cash being added to the pool.

StarkVegasSteve
11-25-2025, 04:17 PM
I spoke to a realtor and a home inspector who say there might be some more assistant cash being added to the pool.

You're not wrong. OM will go as high as they need to go and give him all the money in the world, but he's known that for over a month. Nothing has changed. OM didn't throw out some godfather offer to keep him and that made him reconsider.

TrapGame
11-25-2025, 04:59 PM
Now some are saying Lane mite change his mind and stay.

That goes against every college football podcast I have watched so far today. It sure as hell was not mentioned on the Locked On OM cast. They think he is 100% gone.

I see more people with the consensus that he may actually leave before the Egg Bowl than stay. There?s a few LSU insider types saying he may leave by Thursday because Keith Carter is pushing for a resolution now. Oxford is a tinder box ready to ignite.

Tripp McNeely
11-25-2025, 05:05 PM
Yea that's emanating from Facebook. And we know nothing posted on Facebook is fake. There's ZERO truth to it.


I've said it since LSU became really involved: Lane wants to coach LSU but he wants to coach OM in the playoff. He wants all eyes on Lane for as long as possible. He wants OM to tell him he can't coach them in the playoffs without signing an extension so he can play the "victim" at his introductory press conference.

So while staying may technically be true. It's because he wants to stay to coach the playoffs and then leave. OM is not going to let him do that.


Now some are saying Lane mite change his mind and stay.

Who is "some"??

Pancho
11-25-2025, 05:18 PM
individuals whom we have spoken to today. weird shit

WPS
11-25-2025, 05:20 PM
Whatever that other board, they are out of touch. Arkansas matched what Franklin wanted plus more to try and land him. In the end, Franklin saw the SEC as the hardest path. Walmart heirs are not their only source. Jone, JB Hunt, Tyson and the Walmart Heirs. the former CEO of Walmart is already pushing it. Doug McMillon retires in 2026 and will become involved. As the CEO, Walmart has expanded its corporate sponsorships with the University of Arkansas's athletic programs.

I don?t think Arkansas is last but probably 14/16 currently. There is a push to try getting closer to around 8th in the SEC to be more competitive with Ole Miss but we?ve been told before that the money would be coming and it doesn?t always pan out. Definitely think there will be some level of investment even if it?s not as much as fans would like or expect.

LC Dawg
11-25-2025, 05:22 PM
Someone should put a table and chair on the sideline and put OM, LSU and FL hats on the table with a banner that says "Signing Announcement Immediately Following the Game"

Thick
11-25-2025, 06:02 PM
So Mama Kiffin toured U High Lab where most of the LSU coaches send their kids, but Catholic is a great program and so is Dunham. Dunham produced Stingly and now the #1 QB recruit for ?27. U High produces big stats for QB?s as well. Lamar Brown is there now, and Dylan Moses (Bama) went there. They put 5-7 kids in high D1 every year. I posted this bc of Kiffin?s son, and people asking what high schools could put him into an instant D1 opportunity in the BR area. I think he takes the LSU job.

Pancho
11-25-2025, 06:05 PM
word. sounds plausible

Turfdawg67
11-25-2025, 06:18 PM
I don't know if it helped, but it definitely pissed off Ole Miss fans, but back in 1998 we went to the EB and shouted "AU-burn, AU-burn" all 4th quarter when Tuberville was supposedly headed there but denied it. Definitely need some "LSU" chants ALL game long on Friday!

Coursesuper
11-25-2025, 07:07 PM
So Mama Kiffin toured U High Lab where most of the LSU coaches send their kids, but Catholic is a great program and so is Dunham. Dunham produced Stingly and now the #1 QB recruit for ?27. U High produces big stats for QB?s as well. Lamar Brown is there now, and Dylan Moses (Bama) went there. They put 5-7 kids in high D1 every year. I posted this bc of Kiffin?s son, and people asking what high schools could put him into an instant D1 opportunity in the BR area. I think he takes the LSU job.

You would have to think it’s ULab or Catholic wouldn’t you think? I have a buddy that lives in Zackery, Catholic recruited his son to play golf. Produce 3 to 4 D1 players a year out of there. And that just the golf team.

Thick
11-25-2025, 08:17 PM
I?m not sure, but some think FL would be his front runner due to his wife?s family relationship and IMG could accommodate his son?s needs as well. Both cities are not that desirable, but his son said he didn?t want to play for his dad. He takes LSU gig for his needs, the BR area high schools can help his son from a recognition standpoint (not that he will need much help), and he signs with FL which makes mom and granddad happy. Meanwhile, Kiffin will be in the playoffs every year with a chance to win a NC or at least be in the discussion.

38843dawg
11-25-2025, 09:05 PM
Then those people don?t really understand how the current landscape is set up going forward following the court ruling. Revenue share is real and schools are going to allocate funds where they want to and where they think their fans want it. Now of course it could change next month, and there will be challenges in court, but no one and I mean no one really knows how each school is planning on allocating funds. Now some schools, most in the sec, front loaded their money before the court ruling this past summer but after next season things will look different. People that think Drink would pack up and leave mizzou for Arkansas haven?t paid attention to just how much they are committed to football right now. Mizzou is not interested in going too crazy on basketball and they give zero shits about baseball, so of course football has made a big step in recent years because it allowed more funds to go there.

Felt like I need to bump this again. Rumors saying schools have x amount in NIL really doesn?t mean much. They may have x amount in their collective but the problem schools are facing is how to get it through NIL go and approved. There are schools right now sitting on money that they can?t map out to players because they can?t figure out how to get it approved through NIL go. Rev share is the most important right now because it?s money that can go straight to players. Now how much each team has will depend on the university and how they divide the rev share ?pie?.

38843dawg
11-25-2025, 09:10 PM
I don?t think Arkansas is last but probably 14/16 currently. There is a push to try getting closer to around 8th in the SEC to be more competitive with Ole Miss but we?ve been told before that the money would be coming and it doesn?t always pan out. Definitely think there will be some level of investment even if it?s not as much as fans would like or expect.

There is a reason the coaching list is what it is right now for Arkansas and it?s about rev share. Arkansas is going to give a larger percentage to basketball and baseball than most other places and it?ll impact football. Not saying I agree or disagree but there?s a reason their coaching list looks like it does (and State?s would be about the same).

bulldawg28
11-25-2025, 09:11 PM
Felt like I need to bump this again. Rumors saying schools have x amount in NIL really doesn?t mean much. They may have x amount in their collective but the problem schools are facing is how to get it through NIL go and approved. There are schools right now sitting on money that they can?t map out to players because they can?t figure out how to get it approved through NIL go. Rev share is the most important right now because it?s money that can go straight to players. Now how much each team has will depend on the university and how they divide the rev share ?pie?.

If they want to get money to players they always find a way, that's the least of a concern.

38843dawg
11-25-2025, 09:18 PM
If they want to get money to players they always find a way, that's the least of a concern.

Well it?s a real problem right now for a couple programs in our league. So tell them.

bulldawg28
11-25-2025, 09:44 PM
Well it?s a real problem right now for a couple programs in our league. So tell them.

They don't have a problem, especially if they're in the SEC.

RezDog7
11-25-2025, 09:48 PM
Well it?s a real problem right now for a couple programs in our league. So tell them.

Maybe only msu. We'd likely be the only school with an effort to keep things on the up and up.

38843dawg
11-25-2025, 10:07 PM
They don't have a problem, especially if they're in the SEC.

Well drop Selmon an email in the morning and give them suggestions on how to get some of it through. Next year at this time when funds that have been front loaded are gone it?ll be an even bigger issue. Denying it doesn?t make the problem go away. Ignore it if you want to but it?s real.

msstate7
11-26-2025, 11:20 AM
Seems like golesh to Arkansas.

StarkVegasSteve
11-26-2025, 11:34 AM
Seems like golesh to Arkansas.

That will be interesting to see that. Opinions are really split on him. Some people think he's the next great offensive mind. Others think he's average and just kind of peaked his team this year with a vet QB.

If I was Arkansas I would've probably swung for Eric Morris. And maybe they did, but I have a hard time believing a coach would turn down an SEC job for Ok State. I mean Arkansas NIL structure isn't great by any means, but I can guarantee you it's better currently than OK State.

WPS
11-26-2025, 12:14 PM
Seems like golesh to Arkansas.

Haven?t seen this confirmed nationally yet but seems like this came together quickly late yesterday. Think Arkansas probably tried one last time for Campbell but had to move on.

The mascot is a Russian boar so it makes sense to have a Russian coach I guess.

HoopsDawg
11-26-2025, 12:16 PM
Haven?t seen this confirmed nationally yet but seems like this came together quickly late yesterday. Think Arkansas probably tried one last time for Campbell but had to move on.

The mascot is a Russian boar so it makes sense to have a Russian coach I guess.

I think its a great hire.

Maroon Glasses
11-26-2025, 09:07 PM
No so fast my friends on the Golesh to Arky... seems to be backing out and waiting to see if the OM job to opens up. Arky people not very happy at the moment.

TrapGame
11-26-2025, 09:34 PM
No so fast my friends on the Golesh to Arky... seems to be backing out and waiting to see if the OM job to opens up. Arky people not very happy at the moment.

Saw a Locked On podcast talking about how Lane is holding up a bunch of decisions right now. People are waiting on Lane to leave OM. He's got three programs in limbo. Once that cork is popped all these jobs will start falling like dominoes.

The Federalist Engineer
11-26-2025, 09:43 PM
Auburn and Cohen are going to announce Dabo and the fans will revolt.

The "Christian" coach gimmick is anachronistic. The modern coach is not recruiting grandmas and mothers anymore. Even academics don't matter. Football recruiting is a transactional experience with agents, family advisers, human traffickers, and pimps.

The Theo Vonn interview with Lane Kiffin is pretty good. "Nobody asks about the school anymore."

Maroon Glasses
11-26-2025, 10:08 PM
Saw a Locked On podcast talking about how Lane is holding up a bunch of decisions right now. People are waiting on Lane to leave OM. He's got three programs in limbo. Once that cork is popped all these jobs will start falling like dominoes.

Lane isn't making many friends right now. Regardless of where he ends up, he better hope it works out. I gotta feeling he is burning some bridges right now. And he ain't got many more alternate routes considering his past with Bama, Tenn, and USC. He will burn 2 more bridges whatever decision he makes this time... and maybe a few more after holding up other hires.

Maroon Glasses
11-26-2025, 10:09 PM
Auburn and Cohen are going to announce Dabo and the fans will revolt.

The "Christian" coach gimmick is anachronistic. The modern coach is not recruiting grandmas and mothers anymore. Even academics don't matter. Football recruiting is a transactional experience with agents, family advisers, human traffickers, and pimps.

The Theo Vonn interview with Lane Kiffin is pretty good. "Nobody asks about the school anymore."

I'll have to check out the interview. You're right tho. It's win by whatever means necessary. Kill or be killed.

The Federalist Engineer
11-26-2025, 10:42 PM
I'll have to check out the interview. You're right tho. It's win by whatever means necessary. Kill or be killed.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i751smc_WHo

This is an amazing interview. The kid even asks if the recruiting is now more for boosters and donors. LK is a forthcoming guy, seems like a straight shooter, easy to see why everyone likes him.

Brobi-wan
11-26-2025, 11:38 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i751smc_WHo

This is an amazing interview. The kid even asks if the recruiting is now more for boosters and donors. LK is a forthcoming guy, seems like a straight shooter, easy to see why everyone likes him.

That kid is like 45

Todd4State
11-27-2025, 12:02 AM
Lane isn't making many friends right now. Regardless of where he ends up, he better hope it works out. I gotta feeling he is burning some bridges right now. And he ain't got many more alternate routes considering his past with Bama, Tenn, and USC. He will burn 2 more bridges whatever decision he makes this time... and maybe a few more after holding up other hires.

Appears the Ole Miss bridge is on fire as we speak.

Maroon Glasses
11-27-2025, 12:36 AM
Appears the Ole Miss bridge is on fire as we speak.

Todd. You can't just say that without some context. Tell us....... Lol.

Todd4State
11-27-2025, 01:10 AM
Todd. You can't just say that without some context. Tell us....... Lol.

I'm just referring to how Kiffin is handling the situation and how a lot of Ole Miss fans are reacting to it.

Even if he doesn't leave- this is going to happen again during NFL coaching cycle season and it's going to happen again next year if he stays. And that gets tiring.

It just gets fatiguing for a fan base.

Maroon Glasses
11-27-2025, 01:19 AM
I'm just referring to how Kiffin is handling the situation and how a lot of Ole Miss fans are reacting to it.

Even if he doesn't leave- this is going to happen again during NFL coaching cycle season and it's going to happen again next year if he stays. And that gets tiring.

It just gets fatiguing for a fan base.

Oh I gotcha. I thought you had some breaking news. I was getting excited!

But yes, you're right. He will never stop searching for bigger money and/or greener pastures. They will get tired of it.. especially if he decides to stay this year and next year turns into the exact same thing.

One of my best friends is an OM fan and he has said multiple times that he wish he would just go ahead and leave because he hates the drama that comes with him every year.

The Federalist Engineer
11-27-2025, 01:50 AM
That kid is like 45

You are right, just looked it up. I was thrown off by the bad haircut, 6th grade vocabulary, slow reasoning, unprofessional presentation and bad posture. Yep, it is a sloppy 45 year old.

WPS
11-27-2025, 04:23 AM
No so fast my friends on the Golesh to Arky... seems to be backing out and waiting to see if the OM job to opens up. Arky people not very happy at the moment.

I don?t think he?d be super high on the OM board would he? Do think they didn?t want it leaking this early before he had a chance to coach his last game with his team. Guessing unless something crazy happens it may be official Sunday.

Brobi-wan
11-27-2025, 08:36 AM
You are right, just looked it up. I was thrown off by the bad haircut, 6th grade vocabulary, slow reasoning, unprofessional presentation and bad posture. Yep, it is a sloppy 45 year old.

It’s the drugs, man. When I found out his age awhile back I was also highly surprised.

parabrave
11-27-2025, 08:43 AM
Saw a Locked On podcast talking about how Lane is holding up a bunch of decisions right now. People are waiting on Lane to leave OM. He's got three programs in limbo. Once that cork is popped all these jobs will start falling like dominoes.

Speaking of Locked on Podcast/ I just started viewing them. I like when they have the crossover podcast so you can get the opposing schools on at the same time. But if it came between them and Hadad I prefer STM. The guy is entertaining.

TrapGame
11-27-2025, 10:43 AM
Drink signing extension with Mizzou. Bump in salary with more money for coaches and boost in NIL.

Also, anybody see the Dellenger article? He says Florida is moving on and OM is quietly looking for a coach. LSU fully expects Kiffin to be their new coach.

basedog
11-27-2025, 10:51 AM
Drink signing extension with Mizzou. Bump in salary with more money for coaches and boost in NIL.

Probably a good move on his part. Has way more job security than going to Florida.

Coursesuper
11-27-2025, 11:39 AM
Fla and Auburn seem radio active. Everything necessary to succeed but so much meddling do you really want to touch them.

DawgFromOxford
11-27-2025, 11:49 AM
Latest rumor I read was Dillingham to FL

TrapGame
11-27-2025, 12:07 PM
Fla and Auburn seem radio active. Everything necessary to succeed but so much meddling do you really want to touch them.

Florida will not commit to total autonomy of the head coach. Spurrier refuses to remove his finger from the pie.

Percho
11-27-2025, 12:31 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i751smc_WHo

This is an amazing interview. The kid even asks if the recruiting is now more for boosters and donors. LK is a forthcoming guy, seems like a straight shooter, easy to see why everyone likes him.

Lane sounds like someone who has lived trying to fix life, with things.

Brobi-wan
11-27-2025, 08:47 PM
Lane sounds like someone who has lived trying to fix life, with things.

Dude talks like he wasn’t dating a girl barely older than his daughter not too long ago

TrapGame
11-27-2025, 09:28 PM
Rumor is Sexton told Drink to stay at Mizzou b/c he was interested in the LSU job, not Florida. Sexton told him the LSU job is off the table and he would be better served staying at Mizzou.

The Florida job has become toxic. Like I heard Florida refuses to give their head coaches full autonomy of the program. Spurrier is considered the director of football operations and has a big say in everything football related.