Today can be simply explained

[Coach34]

We needed that.
Lebby needed that
Shapen needed that.

Bonus? We saw that KT can make a throw with nobody in his face. We saw he can make a long run to expose defenses. We also saw his true freshman side and it will be erratic at times.

But I will say this- for Lebby to go back to Shapen with our OL struggling really bad and KT alleviating some of that? You better win the ****ing football game. Fortunately he did. It would be a shit show right now had he not. But what this also does is give you a few more options down the line and especially for the Egg Bowl when you get 2 weeks to get ready

Huge day for us and the program.

[BeardoMSU]

Great post, 34. No notes.

[Quaoarsking]

It really was the most important football game in years for us.

[Todd4State]

Nail on the head.

We need Reese back bad.

[BeastMan]

34 with nothing but the truth

[Bdawg]

Nail on the head.

We need Reese back bad.

It kills me how much worse we look without him in the game.

[Coach34]

It kills me how much worse we look without him in the game.

Shows we have zero depth now. Huge concern moving forward and really makes the portal grabs on the OL at the top of our Christmas list

[Bdawg]

Shows we have zero depth now. Huge concern moving forward and really makes the portal grabs on the OL at the top of our Christmas list

Most definitely. Weakest position group we got

[Santiago]

We needed that.
Lebby needed that
Shapen needed that.

Bonus? We saw that KT can make a throw with nobody in his face. We saw he can make a long run to expose defenses. We also saw his true freshman side and it will be erratic at times.

But I will say this- for Lebby to go back to Shapen with our OL struggling really bad and KT alleviating some of that? You better win the ****ing football game. Fortunately he did. It would be a shit show right now had he not. But what this also does is give you a few more options down the line and especially for the Egg Bowl when you get 2 weeks to get ready

Huge day for us and the program.


I think we were dead in that game with energy until KT entered and gave us those two scores. Until then, only 7 points in over half the game played. He gave us a huge spark.

I was listening to the 3rd and most of the 4th on Satellite radio. Arkansas broadcasters in the 4th quarter said they would rather have Shapen in there passing the ball than KT running, because they had no answer for him.

[Catfish]

We needed that.
Lebby needed that
Shapen needed that.

Bonus? We saw that KT can make a throw with nobody in his face. We saw he can make a long run to expose defenses. We also saw his true freshman side and it will be erratic at times.

But I will say this- for Lebby to go back to Shapen with our OL struggling really bad and KT alleviating some of that? You better win the ****ing football game. Fortunately he did. It would be a shit show right now had he not. But what this also does is give you a few more options down the line and especially for the Egg Bowl when you get 2 weeks to get ready

Huge day for us and the program.

Good post

[KOdawg1]

KT needs more snaps. Shapen is clearly the best option passing, but KT opens up the offense.

[Homedawg]

Most definitely. Weakest position group we got

Not that we don't need more. But losing Reese and steen stings.

[BeardoMSU]

KT needs more snaps. Shapen is clearly the best option passing, but KT opens up the offense.

Yes.

[BeardoMSU]

KT needs more snaps. Shapen is clearly the best option passing, but KT opens up the offense.

And he's clearly the future. We need to involve him more.

[Coach34]

I think we were dead in that game with energy until KT entered and gave us those two scores. Until then, only 7 points in over half the game played. He gave us a huge spark.

I was listening to the 3rd and most of the 4th on Satellite radio. Arkansas broadcasters in the 4th quarter said they would rather have Shapen in there passing the ball than KT running, because they had no answer for him.

KT def gave us a shot in the arm. Our OL was ass most of the day. We had zero rushing yards in the 1st half. Thats how ****ing bad they were. But Shapen made some plays and made some decisions/throws that KT would struggle to make at this point.

Shapen stepped up and KT showed he needs a few more plays per game. Win-win. Need the OL to get healthier. Thats the biggest thing.

[Coach34]

And he's clearly the future.

Yeah- we wont be big spenders in the portal for a QB. That money needs to go to OL/DL

[Coursesuper]

Yeah- we wont be big spenders in the portal for a QB. That money needs to go to OL/DL

All, we have to get better and deeper on both lines. Injuries have hurt us this season and lack of depth has shown.

[KOdawg1]

Yeah- we wont be big spenders in the portal for a QB. That money needs to go to OL/DL

OL, DL, and 1 legit WR. We'll lose Thompson

[Quaoarsking]

Yeah- we wont be big spenders in the portal for a QB. That money needs to go to OL/DL

We need to be big spenders on quantitative guys who can find the undervalued talent we can get for cheap. Whoever at Ole Miss knew that this random D2 QB would be good in the SEC did a great job evaluating him.

[Santiago]

KT def gave us a shot in the arm. Our OL was ass most of the day. We had zero rushing yards in the 1st half. Thats how ****ing bad they were. But Shapen made some plays and made some decisions/throws that KT would struggle to make at this point.

Shapen stepped up and KT showed he needs a few more plays per game. Win-win. Need the OL to get healthier. Thats the biggest thing.

Shapen seems sharper later in the game, but his throws are just off the mark many times. Hats off to him in the 4th quarter but until then he was not scaring anyone, and Arkansas dared him to throw the whole game.I think we see that in the next 3 games and we better have more plays for KT to get the defense loosened up.

Early in the 4th quarter Time of Possession was Arkansas over 30 minutes, and MSU 15 for the game. If not for KT entering when he did and getting us 2 scores, we were running out of steam . We do not win this game without his playmaking.

[1eyedog]

Coach, how do you see the rest season play out.....Dogs beat a HOG team with a mile of penalties, SC looks like crap tonight but playing om close, Fla played Ga tough, ......what does your crystal ball say?

[Quaoarsking]

Coach, how do you see the rest season play out.....SC looks like crap tonight but playing om close, Fla played Ga tough, ......what does your crystal ball say?

SC beats Ole Miss tonight, we win the Egg Bowl and knock them out of the playoffs entirely. Lane is in Gainesville before December.

[EdwardDrayton]

We needed that. Yes
Lebby needed that Yes
Shapen needed that. Yes

Bonus? We saw that KT can make a throw with nobody in his face. We saw he can make a long run to expose defenses. We also saw his true freshman side and it will be erratic at times. Yes

But I will say this- for Lebby to go back to Shapen with our OL struggling really bad and KT alleviating some of that? You better win the ****ing football game. Fortunately he did. It would be a shit show right now had he not. But what this also does is give you a few more options down the line and especially for the Egg Bowl when you get 2 weeks to get ready Yes

Huge day for us and the program. YES! '

[Coach34]

We need to be big spenders on quantitative guys who can find the undervalued talent we can get for cheap. Whoever at Ole Miss knew that this random D2 QB would be good in the SEC did a great job evaluating him.

I agree. Ive screamed Moneyball for 2 years now

[EdwardDrayton]

SC beats Ole Miss tonight, we win the Egg Bowl and knock them out of the playoffs entirely. Lane is in Gainesville before December.

Now that's a Merry Christmas!! LOL!!!

[Coach34]

Coach, how do you see the rest season play out.....SC looks like crap tonight but playing om close, Fla played Ga tough, ......what does your crystal ball say?

We arent good enough upfront especially on the OL to beat Georgia
Mizzou will be tough to beat on the road even with losing their QB. We have a chance for sure but it would take a great game.
Egg Bowl is really interesting. We have time to gameplan and really prepare. But so do they. The main thing for us is being healthy upfront. That matters as much as anything.

I'll be at the Egg and I'm looking forward to it now

[1eyedog]

Good Grief SC looks AWFUL at velvet ditch.

[Coursesuper]

We need to be big spenders on quantitative guys who can find the undervalued talent we can get for cheap. Whoever at Ole Miss knew that this random D2 QB would be good in the SEC did a great job evaluating him.

That is part of their program, they have staff that only spends time scouting and finding players. It?s all about $$$ spending in the proper places.

[Coach34]

That is part of their program, they have staff that only spends time scouting and finding players. It?s all about $$$ spending in the proper places.

and this is where I've tried to explain to people is where our lack of money hurts us. We lack staff compared to the rest of the SEC

[1eyedog]

What do you think of Fla at the ditch? And Didn’t Gonzales coach a game or two at State at some time? Also I guess Ok got some of their O line back and their QB is not playing like he did against om as they are leading Tn.

[Santiago]

winning helps motivation for funds. tail wagging the dog, but still.

[Quaoarsking]

and this is where I've tried to explain to people is where our lack of money hurts us. We lack staff compared to the rest of the SEC

I would have to assume that a small staff looking for good value players would pay for itself.

Here are ESPN's estimates for what every starter costs. Find just a few guys who are just as good but cost 10 - 20% less and they've justified their salaries.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/46050629/college-football-2025-position-cost-transfers

[Bdawg]

Not that we don't need more. But losing Reese and steen stings.

Yep. Just shows how weak our depth is when only losing 2 makes us look so bad

[Coach34]

I would have to assume that a small staff looking for good value players would pay for itself.

Here are ESPN's estimates for what every starter costs. Find just a few guys who are just as good but cost 10 - 20% less and they've justified their salaries.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/46050629/college-football-2025-position-cost-transfers

But hiring guys to watch film and network with coaches takes alot of time and money. We have to have that quality staff being paid a solid wage

[TrapGame]

Good Grief SC looks AWFUL at velvet ditch.

That Mike Shula offense is radioactive diarrhea.

[Coursesuper]

But hiring guys to watch film and network with coaches takes alot of time and money. We have to have that quality staff being paid a solid wage

This ^^^.

[Homedawg]

Yep. Just shows how weak our depth is when only losing 2 makes us look so bad

True but when it's supposed to be your two starting tackles. That hurts anyone.

[1eyedog]

Om Lacy just scored long run for td and did the throat slash......thought that wasn’t allowed.

[EdwardDrayton]

Om Lacy just scored long run for td and did the throat slash......thought that wasn’t allowed.

Yeah I thought they put an end to that.

[1eyedog]

True but when it's supposed to be your two starting tackles. That hurts anyone.

I think okie was down starting two Off tackles and the center when they played om.....wasn’t reported much.

[chef dixon]

We arent good enough upfront especially on the OL to beat Georgia
Mizzou will be tough to beat on the road even with losing their QB. We have a chance for sure but it would take a great game.
Egg Bowl is really interesting. We have time to gameplan and really prepare. But so do they. The main thing for us is being healthy upfront. That matters as much as anything.

I'll be at the Egg and I'm looking forward to it now

Georgia is no different than FL or TX. Everyone is beatable. Obviously we got our work cut out for us, but this ain't the same UGA

[1eyedog]

Any chance or getting any off lineman back before EB ?

[Todd4State]

Georgia is no different than FL or TX. Everyone is beatable. Obviously we got our work cut out for us, but this ain't the same UGA

Yeah. That's why I'm expecting us to lose to them in overtime.

[Todd4State]

But hiring guys to watch film and network with coaches takes alot of time and money. We have to have that quality staff being paid a solid wage

Exactly. This is the kind of thing MSU needs to invest in.

[Todd4State]

It kills me how much worse we look without him in the game.

It's insane. But as Coach said, it's a depth issue.

[1eyedog]

Yeah. That's why I'm expecting us to lose to them in overtime.

After seeing how ark shut down the DOG run especially on first down........I don’t see how it can be close for very long.....om had them for 3 quarters I think but they also have a running qb.....

[Todd4State]

KT needs more snaps. Shapen is clearly the best option passing, but KT opens up the offense.

Here's the truth about the two right now.

We're actually more limited with KT as the QB. He doesn't have the full grasp of the college QB thing. He is getting better. He made some reads tonight that were the right ones. However, when he made the right read he fired a 105 MPH fastball to Booth on a checkdown 5 yards away from him. His accuracy is off. Now, he will get better but that's where he is right now. And yes, he can run and make plays with his legs that Shapen can't. He can take more punishment than Shapen. I get that. But when you have a QB that struggles passing the ball it's a problem and it's the inverse of the problem we have with Shapen. And you can say, well he hit that bomb and yes, he did and I at the same time can point out the plays that Shapen made with his legs.

Shapen can make any throw you want and he does a good job of running the team and the offense. His offensive line sucks and we really only have two truly reliable receivers although Ayden and Traore are in the next tier. And yet, for the most part he has performed pretty well. The problem is he is streaky. But when he gets hot, he is really good. And after an offseason where our fans said he shouldn't run, he has cut down on that and now our fans criticize him because he "isn't mobile or dual threat." He has certainly failed under pressure at times but he also has succeeded as well. He made some BIG plays tonight on fourth down than I'm not sure that KT would have at this point. When he got hurt and couldn't play you could tell he was pissed. That's the kind of guy you want at QB.

And now with KT making progress here's how it really changes our offense- it's going to allow Lebby to run Shapen more. Because now we don't have to worry about him getting hurt as much. That's going to allow Shapen to play more free which is what we want. And with KT making progress it's going to cause Shapen to have more competition and that's going to push him to play better. Same thing Bill Walsh did with Joe Montana and Steve Young and it resulted in Montana playing absolutely out of his mind.

[bulldawg28]

Great team win. This keeps everyone motivated & hungry the remainder of the year. If the team can somehow get to 6 wins Lebby deserves coach or the year.

[confucius say]

That is part of their program, they have staff that only spends time scouting and finding players. It?s all about $$$ spending in the proper places.

So do we

[confucius say]

I think okie was down starting two Off tackles and the center when they played om.....wasn’t reported much.

They were. They started two true freshmen on the OL that game. Woof.