Boosters at schools that give big money

[Santiago]

Curious on what everyone knows .
1. For MSU what would be the ballpark of a "big booster". One million +?

2. For athletics just curious on some of the schools being bankrolled by billionaires. Tx Tech, Ole Miss (Scruggs worth over 1.7 billion), yell fella, etc. Asking after hearing Saban talking about schools now that compete are different schools. I could see Vandy getting energized as well, to some degreee.

[msstate7]

Harvard and Yale to the sec

[Dawgology]

Harvard and Yale to the sec

I went to a Yale football game once. Totally different vibe. Felt like I was at a quidditch match more than a football game.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Curious on what everyone knows .
1. For MSU what would be the ballpark of a "big booster". One million +?

2. For athletics just curious on some of the schools being bankrolled by billionaires. Tx Tech, Ole Miss (Scruggs worth over 1.7 billion), yell fella, etc. Asking after hearing Saban talking about schools now that compete are different schools. I could see Vandy getting energized as well, to some degreee.

1. It depends if you are talking annual gift or one time. We have some boosters that I would not consider big time that have given large one time gifts. Jim Rouse and Tommy Nusz both come to mind. As far as annual, probably annually giving anything over 100K plus will put you in that territory. To be with the big boys(Adkerson, Howard, McKinnis, Rula, Sanders, Seal, etc) you will probably need to be above 250K and probably closer to 500K than 250K.

2. Texas Tech has Cody Campbell and his money, but they have multiple 9 figure net worth individuals as well. As for OM, Dickie gives but he is not the only one. David Nutt has a net worth well over 500 million, Jerry Hollingsworth is a 9 figure or damn close to it net worth, John Black is giving them money left and right. Auburn has Jimmy Randle but also has some other 7 and 8 figure net worth guys giving some serious change. They used to have Bobby Lowder but he is not very involved anymore.

[Coach34]

It's def changing. The Big Ten is negotiating with a damn money broker to fund their schools for the bigtime. Texas Tech is supposedly this highest spender in NIL this season for football. They are sitting at 7-1 after going 8-5 last year. Candy is paying their QB at least $2MM that we know about. You can see the talent they have on the field so obviously they are spending at a higher level. Their HC didnt suddenly just become a much better coach.

[Santiago]

Houston - Tillman gives tons. I imagine several more and they have a law school. Just saw they have a QB commit ranked high

Good point about the Big Ten- They have money but it is probably going to art galleries and such

[Santiago]

1. It depends if you are talking annual gift or one time. We have some boosters that I would not consider big time that have given large one time gifts. Jim Rouse and Tommy Nusz both come to mind. As far as annual, probably annually giving anything over 100K plus will put you in that territory. To be with the big boys(Adkerson, Howard, McKinnis, Rula, Sanders, Seal, etc) you will probably need to be above 250K and probably closer to 500K than 250K.

2. Texas Tech has Cody Campbell and his money, but they have multiple 9 figure net worth individuals as well. As for OM, Dickie gives but he is not the only one. David Nutt has a net worth well over 500 million, Jerry Hollingsworth is a 9 figure or damn close to it net worth, John Black is giving them money left and right. Auburn has Jimmy Randle but also has some other 7 and 8 figure net worth guys giving some serious change. They used to have Bobby Lowder but he is not very involved anymore.


Did we at one time in the past have a gift from a family that the funds are sitting where we use it for rainy day, or something like that.

[Maroon Glasses]

Idk how true it is but I read that one booster for LSU is paying BK what he is owed for his buyout. If true then that is mind blowing to me

[StarkVegasSteve]

Did we at one time in the past have a gift from a family that the funds are sitting where we use it for rainy day, or something like that.

We had somewhere between 50 and 100 million left to us by Leo Seal that was specifically designed for coach hiring/firing.

[coachnorm]

It is in the best interest, of casinos, that UNLV get good soon because casinos contributed to Allegiant Stadium? They can compliment tickets to preferred clients? The Raiders have maxed out for preferred clients.

[Matt3467]

If Ole Miss can get the money to fund their team, there's no reason we can't other than incompetent admin.

[LC Dawg]

It's hard to wrap your head around how much $1B is. For an easy math example, 5% interest on $1B is $50M. A couple of billionaire boosters can support a college football team on their own and quite a few schools have multiple billionaire boosters.
I recently saw that Todd Graves is worth $22B and he basically has an open checkbook for LSU. It's hard to believe that the governor and the LSU board can **** that up but they sure are trying.

[Santiago]

As much as we hear about Bill Jordan at Realtree and ole miss, am I reading correctly online that his net worth is around only 10-15 million. Good money, but not money to be wasting on 18 year old football players.
Assuming his company funds and not personal wealth.

[Homedawg]

As much as we hear about Bill Jordan at Realtree and ole miss, am I reading correctly online that his net worth is around only 10-15 million. Good money, but not money to be wasting on 18 year old football players.
Assuming his company funds and not personal wealth.

don't believe on line net worths

[DawgFromOxford]

Also worth noting that net worth and liquid capital to give to a football team are 2 entirely different things

[Coursesuper]

Also worth noting that net worth and liquid capital to give to a football team are 2 entirely different things

Bingo!

[deltadawg63]

I firmly believe it takes a true "All-In" strategy: Driven School Administration which commits and supports upmost department resources (football personnel), Absolutely correct HC hire, Upmost fan support (attendance, event support, "word of mouth" and most important-donations). For MSU, a must to have a few large donors whose wealth is mostly liquid to be all-in and then a well-orchestrated approach to adjoining the rest of the many who simply love our school (think Clemson ITPAY strategy). It's what we have just started in baseball. Note the fan confidence that now exist for that sport even before the 2026 season begins. Now do we have that ability to replicate that strategy in much bigger denominations in football?

[LC Dawg]

Also worth noting that net worth and liquid capital to give to a football team are 2 entirely different things

Absolutely. But the more billionaire donors you have the better off you are.

[DawgFromOxford]

Absolutely. But the more billionaire donors you have the better off you are.

Won?t argue with that. I?ll gladly go watch the bulldogs play in Amazon Web Services stadium if Bezos writes the check

[Homedawg]

We had somewhere between 50 and 100 million left to us by Leo Seal that was specifically designed for coach hiring/firing.

I'm not saying you're wrong. But I've never heard of anything close to this.

[viverlibre]

It's def changing. The Big Ten is negotiating with a damn money broker to fund their schools for the bigtime. Texas Tech is supposedly this highest spender in NIL this season for football. They are sitting at 7-1 after going 8-5 last year. Candy is paying their QB at least $2MM that we know about. You can see the talent they have on the field so obviously they are spending at a higher level. Their HC didnt suddenly just become a much better coach.

How much are we paying our 3 QBs?

[Coach34]

How much are we paying our 3 QBs?

From what I was told- our QB room is at 1.5MM

[Todd4State]

I firmly believe it takes a true "All-In" strategy: Driven School Administration which commits and supports upmost department resources (football personnel), Absolutely correct HC hire, Upmost fan support (attendance, event support, "word of mouth" and most important-donations). For MSU, a must to have a few large donors whose wealth is mostly liquid to be all-in and then a well-orchestrated approach to adjoining the rest of the many who simply love our school (think Clemson ITPAY strategy). It's what we have just started in baseball. Note the fan confidence that now exist for that sport even before the 2026 season begins. Now do we have that ability to replicate that strategy in much bigger denominations in football?

Our main issue is using an up to date method to build a football program. We hired Arnett to "keep the recruiting class together" in the portal era for example. Being late to embrace NIL is another example.

But the worst is overreliance on coaching and underestimating player acquisition.

[StarkVegasSteve]

From what I was told- our QB room is at 1.5MM

It's a bit higher than that.

[Santiago]

The Crane family also a good booster to the MSU program

[Coach34]

Frazier and Niles coming up big for us

[Homedawg]

It's a bit higher than that.

He's is pretty dog gone close.

[StarkVegasSteve]

He's is pretty dog gone close.

He's not very far off at all.

[StarkVegasSteve]

The Crane family also a good booster to the MSU program

Yea Chip and Ty both went to State. Chip took over for Johnny as CEO and Ty will take over for Chip.

[viverlibre]

From what I was told- our QB room is at 1.5MM

Good to hear, I was fearing it was closer to $3mil. For some reason, I thought we highly overpaid for Chrome-in-hawk. So, I'm guessing they all got around the same amount?

[Homedawg]

Good to hear, I was fearing it was closer to $3mil. For some reason, I thought we highly overpaid for Chrome-in-hawk. So, I'm guessing they all got around the same amount?

No. Not all the same.

[viverlibre]

From what I was told- our QB room is at 1.5MM

it we had $1 mil tied up in two QBs, what would that extra $500k gotten us? An OL/DL or two?

[Brobi-wan]

Good to hear, I was fearing it was closer to $3mil. For some reason, I thought we highly overpaid for Chrome-in-hawk. So, I'm guessing they all got around the same amount?

To be completely honest with you, I think there?s a world where Luke K could be out starting QB next year.

[Homedawg]

it we had $1 mil tied up in two QBs, what would that extra $500k gotten us? An OL/DL or two?

A- a starting qb is more than a half no matter. A good OL and good DL are more than what you think. A lot of variables I'm not going to get into specifics.

[StarkVegasSteve]

To be completely honest with you, I think there?s a world where Luke K could be out starting QB next year.

There's a world and they'd let him compete. But I'll just be honest with you, I don't see him sticking around. I mostly feel that way because all signs point to us bringing in a veteran portal QB to battle with Taylor, Kromenhoek, and McWhorter for the starting job and I don't see Kromenhoek staying for that.

[deltadawg63]

Agreed SVS. The process will go very similar to last year's. Van Buren left when it was told to him that we will seek another year for Shapen. End of season exit meetings and coaching strategy for 2026 will likely remove 1 of the returning roster QBs.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Agreed SVS. The process will go very similar to last year's. Van Buren left when it was told to him that we will seek another year for Shapen. End of season exit meetings and coaching strategy for 2026 will likely remove 1 of the returning roster QBs.

I think he has the tools to be a P4 QB, I just think he may be more served to be at a NC State or Wake Forest type program over an SEC program. He could go somewhere like Jax State or Middle and run roughshod over their conferences

[deltadawg63]

I firmly believe that MSU is best served by very mobile QBs and some height (6-2 and above) going forward. I did not say a "running" QB either. Very mobile QBs can really help OL deficiencies and offset OL weaknesses along with being able to regularly "see the field" for best results on broken plays. Often, broken plays become some of your most explosive plays!

[Homedawg]

I firmly believe that MSU is best served by very mobile QBs and some height (6-2 and above) going forward. I did not say a "running" QB either. Very mobile QBs can really help OL deficiencies and offset OL weaknesses along with being able to regularly "see the field" for best results on broken plays. Often, broken plays become some of your most explosive plays!
Everyone wants a "mobile" qb that can throw. They aren't that many of them. Hell auburn thought Arnold was that. He ain't.

[Maroon Glasses]

I would consider Shapen a "mobile" qb if he wasn't so flat footed in the pocket. The kid isn't slow by any means. He just doesn't really know how to make things happen outside the pocket. I know that probably don't make sense. I guess I'm saying he has the potential to be a good mobile qb for us. For some reason he just isn't.

[msstate7]

Everyone wants a "mobile" qb that can throw. They aren't that many of them. Hell auburn thought Arnold was that. He ain't.

We thought that, too

[viverlibre]

Everyone wants a "mobile" qb that can throw. They aren't that many of them. Hell auburn thought Arnold was that. He ain't.

I think coaches put too much on QBs and expect too much out of them. Relf is the second or third QB we've had this century and Mullen keep the playbook narrow for him. If a QB can move, don't expect him to also be Dan Marino. There are very few Daks out there.

[Coach34]

I'm curious to see how Lebby goes at it. Do we spend serious money to get a dude at QB? If we do, that means he isnt sold KT can be the QB. Do we just grab a solid guy at a lower level to come compete with KT and Chicken Hawk?

Will be interesting this offseason

[Homedawg]

We thought that, too

Look we were after Arnold. But trust me, shapen was our guy. We were never ever giving him what he got at Auburn. Don't believe everything you read. Now you can say, keeping shapen was dumb. That's fine. But Arnold was a qb2 and was here to compete for the job. But shapen was going to start.

[Homedawg]

I'm curious to see how Lebby goes at it. Do we spend serious money to get a dude at QB? If we do, that means he isnt sold KT can be the QB. Do we just grab a solid guy at a lower level to come compete with KT and Chicken Hawk?

Will be interesting this offseason

He's in a pickle. Tough decision. But he's going to have to win games so it's up to him to determine how ready KT will be. But either way gonna have to get a transfer qb Just what type of transfer is the question.