Steve Robertson on OOB

[TrapGame]

Lebby is not getting fired. He is not getting fired for many reasons but Steve said obviously you do not fire a first time head coach that has shown vast improvement in year two. We are not replacing Lebby with an upgrade this season. The coaching market will be chaos within the next month. Other shoes are going to drop. We are a few boneheaded decisions by coaches and players from being 7-1. It?s a learning curve for Lebby and we will see what he has really learned in year three.

Now here is what got my attention. With all the chaos coming into the SEC with coaching changes that plays to our advantage to have a third year coach. And, this is huge too, the portal this season will be absolute bonkers with all the coaching turnover. Steve said we could really load up on some talented guys in the portal bc it will be saturated.

[FISHDAWG]

Gotta say I can't refute this reasoning.... I'm as pissed as anyone but I can look into this same crystal ball and have come to the same conclusion

[Tbonewannabe]

I just hope he isn't Moorhead stubborn and think that everything he did was correct. Those 4th quarter coaching decisions were pretty much the worst possible decisions at every turn. Hopefully he looks in the mirror and learns from it. He can be a great coach if he uses those lessons and improves.

Moorhead's biggest issue was not learning from his mistakes and it looks like he still hasn't from his time at Akron.

[viverlibre]

Barring an off field issue, I don?t think anyone with even the smallest amount of sense thinks he?s in any danger of being fired.

[Coach34]

People can get mad and throw a fit- but last year simply didnt count against the guy. He got here in December and had to build a staff and began working on getting some players. We had almost no talent left on the team when he arrived. We spent very little last season on a roster (compared to the rest of the SEC). Spent the year installing his system and program. Lebbo started in a hole. He had less talent for 2024 when he got here than Croom had when he arrived.

Now this season- we have improved the roster quite a bit but it still lacks depth and has some holes. We are vastly improved. This is basically his Y1. Huntzler looks like a DC now that he has some talent to work with. We just scored 38 on Texas who had only given up more than 21 once before Saturday. Yes its frustrating not to stack some wins but it is what it is.

The program is headed in the right direction. In this Era of Portal/NIL- being competitive is about all we can ask for with our wallet that we have.

[FISHDAWG]

Facts

[basedog]

People can get mad and throw a fit- but last year simply didnt count against the guy. He got here in December and had to build a staff and began working on getting some players. We had almost no talent left on the team when he arrived. We spent very little last season on a roster (compared to the rest of the SEC). Spent the year installing his system and program. Lebbo started in a hole. He had less talent for 2024 when he got here than Croom had when he arrived.

Now this season- we have improved the roster quite a bit but it still lacks depth and has some holes. We are vastly improved. This is basically his Y1. Huntzler looks like a DC now that he has some talent to work with. We just scored 38 on Texas who had only given up more than 21 once before Saturday. Yes its frustrating not to stack some wins but it is what it is.

The program is headed in the right direction. In this Era of Portal/NIL- being competitive is about all we can ask for with our wallet that we have.

Your best post 34 in a long time. I have the same thoight, Lebby is a work in progress and the biggest thing i see is our team plays hard and hasn't given up.

[Pancho]

agreed. stay the course and please find more OL

[DownwardDawg]

agreed. stay the course and please find more OL

And a QB. Gonna need a transfer from the portal.

[Pancho]

And a QB. Gonna need a transfer from the portal.

no doubt

[HoopsDawg]

People can get mad and throw a fit- but last year simply didnt count against the guy. He got here in December and had to build a staff and began working on getting some players. We had almost no talent left on the team when he arrived. We spent very little last season on a roster (compared to the rest of the SEC). Spent the year installing his system and program. Lebbo started in a hole. He had less talent for 2024 when he got here than Croom had when he arrived.

Now this season- we have improved the roster quite a bit but it still lacks depth and has some holes. We are vastly improved. This is basically his Y1. Huntzler looks like a DC now that he has some talent to work with. We just scored 38 on Texas who had only given up more than 21 once before Saturday. Yes its frustrating not to stack some wins but it is what it is.

The program is headed in the right direction. In this Era of Portal/NIL- being competitive is about all we can ask for with our wallet that we have.

100%.

[HoopsDawg]

Same exact roster with same coaching staff is 7-1 with a really good LT or better special teams or no injuries or a few better decisions by Lebby/Players. That tells me we are close. If we were 6-2 or 7-1, Lebby would be coach of the year and a candidate for one of these job openings.

We have to improve the O-line. Lebby needs to improve game management decisions. And we need to continue to have stability. The playoffs will be expanding to 16 teams. We can make the playoffs with Lebby as our coach 1 out of every 4-5 years. I truly believe that. I don't need to see another win this year, but I hope we do mainly to shut up the critics, improve morale and help with retaining and obtaining players.

[Coursesuper]

Same exact roster with same coaching staff is 7-1 with a really good LT or better special teams or no injuries or a few better decisions by Lebby/Players. That tells me we are close. If we were 6-2 or 7-1, Lebby would be coach of the year and a candidate for one of these job openings.

We have to improve the O-line. Lebby needs to improve game management decisions. And we need to continue to have stability. The playoffs will be expanding to 16 teams. We can make the playoffs with Lebby as our coach 1 out of every 4-5 years. I truly believe that. I don't need to see another win this year, but I hope we do mainly to shut up the critics, improve morale and help with retaining and obtaining players.

LT, G, another CB, 2 more DE plus quality Depth.

[Coursesuper]

People can get mad and throw a fit- but last year simply didnt count against the guy. He got here in December and had to build a staff and began working on getting some players. We had almost no talent left on the team when he arrived. We spent very little last season on a roster (compared to the rest of the SEC). Spent the year installing his system and program. Lebbo started in a hole. He had less talent for 2024 when he got here than Croom had when he arrived.

Now this season- we have improved the roster quite a bit but it still lacks depth and has some holes. We are vastly improved. This is basically his Y1. Huntzler looks like a DC now that he has some talent to work with. We just scored 38 on Texas who had only given up more than 21 once before Saturday. Yes its frustrating not to stack some wins but it is what it is.

The program is headed in the right direction. In this Era of Portal/NIL- being competitive is about all we can ask for with our wallet that we have.

100% True. There is no way to erase the years of completely amateur administration and leadership from alumni and AD personnel during that time. We are just in the last year beginning to dig out of this hole. Its not over, not even close, but there are positive signs and we have to keep gaining ground.

[confucius say]

Who on earth thought he was getting fired? Surely Bo was not peddling that?

We are in every game. Assuming we don't go off a cliff in November, termination is not even a discussion.

[R2Dawg]

Agree with most. Lebby has brought big improvement to where we are mad at being 4-4 (rightfully so too). He has to be open to changing and learning too. A person doing a job for the first time who isn't willing to learn from mistakes is doomed to failure.

If Lebby is successful down the road here, we need to tweak his contract so he don't bolt easily. We stick with him to let him grown up on our dime, we need something in return down the road.

[Coach34]

LT, G, another CB, 2 more DE plus quality Depth.

Yeah- depth in the trenches period is the key for any team. Texas was subbing their entire DL on drives to keep from getting worn down. We really cant do that and keep playing at a high level. And depth on the OL for us does not exist

[Op4isabitch]

Anyone,that would even consider calling him to be fired is a fool.

[Tbonewannabe]

Lebby's ceiling is high if he either gets an OC that he trusts so he can be a true head coach or at least learns how to be a Head Coach while calling the offense. The Texas game was lost on Lebby not thinking big picture. Without us screwing up clock management, Texas had no chance to score enough with the time remaining.

That game was purely lost by coaching.

[CaptainObvious]

3rd year Lebby will get to essentially start over again. New QB out of the Portal. New WR corps. New DBs. New Oline. Gonna be fun rebuilding the rebuild.

[Tater]

At 4-8 you have to consider it. But the right answer is mixing up responsibilities to a better balance on offense. Lebby is not handling the current responsibilities well so he needs to delegate a couple things away. That's not necessarily playcalling but something if this doesn't change.

We're not 4-8 yet.

WR room will be loaded again next year for guys who see how much your stock can move in his offense.

Hutzler is no longer awful as a DC but jury is still out. I don't think the 45 rests squarely on him, but we have made two bad QBs look serviceable. Maybe it's jimmies and joes again. I think we'll end up keeping him short of giving up 40+ every game from here on out.

We can't run back the same stupidity next year. That's what people don't want. Fired is harsh and an over correction, but the point remains there needs to be tweaks. A few coaching tweaks and we're 7-1.
- Not playing Fluff late against Aggy
- Understanding the game flows of Tenn/Aggy better and not passing when you should gash a run.
- The Florida debacle.
- The hurry up 4th down when review likely gives us the first down and playing against the defense strength.
- Consistently setting your kicker up for failure by putting him on the right hash.
- Punting to the best return man in the country.
- Bad game clock management

There's a laundry list of problems that some delegation of duties and tweaks in philosophy make us 7-1. Hell - if Albert doesn't get hurt against Tennessee then the Aggy game is also completely different. So another piece is OL depth.

The people who see us as so close are right. The people who see us as pissing a lot away are right. If we keep pissing things away - it's harder to believe that we'll fix the things that we're not close on.

[TrapGame]

Lebby's ceiling is high if he either gets an OC that he trusts so he can be a true head coach or at least learns how to be a Head Coach while calling the offense. The Texas game was lost on Lebby not thinking big picture. Without us screwing up clock management, Texas had no chance to score enough with the time remaining.

That game was purely lost by coaching.

I think it is more like a bonehead on defense roughed the QB on a 4th down play that would have given us the ball on the 38 yard line of Texas. With a huge shift in momentum at that point we take a few minutes off the clock maybe score a touchdown and seal it right there or kick 3 making it 20 point lead with about 8 minutes to go in the game. The Texas players are then thinking about getting on the jet and heading back to Austin.

Steve even said that roughing the passer penalty changed the game drastically. Without that penalty we were in the driver?s seat.


At 4-8 you have to consider it. But the right answer is mixing up responsibilities to a better balance on offense. Lebby is not handling the current responsibilities well so he needs to delegate a couple things away. That's not necessarily playcalling but something if this doesn't change.

We're not 4-8 yet.

WR room will be loaded again next year for guys who see how much your stock can move in his offense.

Hutzler is no longer awful as a DC but jury is still out. I don't think the 45 rests squarely on him, but we have made two bad QBs look serviceable. Maybe it's jimmies and joes again. I think we'll end up keeping him short of giving up 40+ every game from here on out.

We can't run back the same stupidity next year. That's what people don't want. Fired is harsh and an over correction, but the point remains there needs to be tweaks. A few coaching tweaks and we're 7-1.
- Not playing Fluff late against Aggy
- Understanding the game flows of Tenn/Aggy better and not passing when you should gash a run.
- The Florida debacle.
- The hurry up 4th down when review likely gives us the first down and playing against the defense strength.
- Consistently setting your kicker up for failure by putting him on the right hash.
- Punting to the best return man in the country.
- Bad game clock management

There's a laundry list of problems that some delegation of duties and tweaks in philosophy make us 7-1. Hell - if Albert doesn't get hurt against Tennessee then the Aggy game is also completely different. So another piece is OL depth.

The people who see us as so close are right. The people who see us as pissing a lot away are right. If we keep pissing things away - it's harder to believe that we'll fix the things that we're not close on.

If Reese played healthy all through Tennessee we win that game and make the A&M game respectable. But keeping Fluff healthy probably wins us Florida and Texas. Fluff is a stud. We are going to see just how valuable he is Saturday.

[DEDawg]

Good take by Steve and obvious to anyone with any common sense. Also nice to see some MSU media in our corner, Robbie was showing his ass Sat night arguing with fans on twitter and complaining about how much money he's spent to go to games.

[Todd4State]

Good take by Steve and obvious to anyone with any common sense. Also nice to see some MSU media in our corner, Robbie was showing his ass Sat night arguing with fans on twitter and complaining about how much money he's spent to go to games.

Yeah. And he'll be complaining about MSU not giving him media access in the spring and wonder why.

[Santiago]

Good take by Steve and obvious to anyone with any common sense. Also nice to see some MSU media in our corner, Robbie was showing his ass Sat night arguing with fans on twitter and complaining about how much money he's spent to go to games.

Robbie seems to act as if he lives in a tiny world.

[Tbonewannabe]

I think it is more like a bonehead on defense roughed the QB on a 4th down play that would have given us the ball on the 38 yard line of Texas. With a huge shift in momentum at that point we take a few minutes off the clock maybe score a touchdown and seal it right there or kick 3 making it 20 point lead with about 8 minutes to go in the game. The Texas players are then thinking about getting on the jet and heading back to Austin.

Steve even said that roughing the passer penalty changed the game drastically. Without that penalty we were in the driver?s seat.



If Reese played healthy all through Tennessee we win that game and make the A&M game respectable. But keeping Fluff healthy probably wins us Florida and Texas. Fluff is a stud. We are going to see just how valuable he is Saturday.

It was a bone head play but was kind of a touchy foul. Still, is that a defense that has been on the field the entire 2nd half getting tired and lazy. After our last TD to go up 17 in the 4th, we might win by purely kneeling the ball and punting out of bounds. That would give Texas at least 60 or so yards per possession with roughly 5 minutes to score 17 points. There is a reason that the team up 17 points with 10 minutes left were 240-0. Lebby had to help Texas win with bone head coaching.

[DEDawg]

Robbie seems to act as if he lives in a tiny world.

You'd think he'd eventually grow up. Brandon Walker already has the Barstool vibe covered for us, would prefer he just be an adult and evolve his brand.

[BrunswickDawg]

It was a bone head play but was kind of a touchy foul. Still, is that a defense that has been on the field the entire 2nd half getting tired and lazy. After our last TD to go up 17 in the 4th, we might win by purely kneeling the ball and punting out of bounds. That would give Texas at least 60 or so yards per possession with roughly 5 minutes to score 17 points. There is a reason that the team up 17 points with 10 minutes left were 240-0. Lebby had to help Texas win with bone head coaching.

Has anyone found a video of the "roughing the passer call"? I can't find one. TV coverage also cut off the replay before the hit happened so you never got to see it a second time live.

[EdwardDrayton]

LOL! Folks using SR to support their position. That's hilarious.

[HoopsDawg]

Lebby's ceiling is high if he either gets an OC that he trusts so he can be a true head coach or at least learns how to be a Head Coach while calling the offense. The Texas game was lost on Lebby not thinking big picture. Without us screwing up clock management, Texas had no chance to score enough with the time remaining.

That game was purely lost by coaching.

I would rather him hire a game manager than an OC. I want Lebby calling the plays.

[Matt3467]

People can get mad and throw a fit- but last year simply didnt count against the guy. He got here in December and had to build a staff and began working on getting some players. We had almost no talent left on the team when he arrived. We spent very little last season on a roster (compared to the rest of the SEC). Spent the year installing his system and program. Lebbo started in a hole. He had less talent for 2024 when he got here than Croom had when he arrived.

Now this season- we have improved the roster quite a bit but it still lacks depth and has some holes. We are vastly improved. This is basically his Y1. Huntzler looks like a DC now that he has some talent to work with. We just scored 38 on Texas who had only given up more than 21 once before Saturday. Yes its frustrating not to stack some wins but it is what it is.

The program is headed in the right direction. In this Era of Portal/NIL- being competitive is about all we can ask for with our wallet that we have.

I feel like I have to point out that Leach came on in nearly the exact same scenario (actually got hired in January) and yet you used 2020 against him all the time.

[Tbonewannabe]

Has anyone found a video of the "roughing the passer call"? I can't find one. TV coverage also cut off the replay before the hit happened so you never got to see it a second time live.

They hardly showed it during the game. It looked like a flag against old Tom Brady or Mahomes. Very slight bump that wouldn't even been considered hitting the QB prior to 2000. Basically gave the refs the opportunity to throw a flag rather than an obvious penalty. Still, unless you are Bama/UGA/LSU, you have to expect the refs to do some helping in that situation. You can't give them the chance to throw a flag without being obvious in helping a team like the Eagles getting a first down after losing a fumble.

[Coach34]

I feel like I have to point out that Leach came on in nearly the exact same scenario (actually got hired in January) and yet you used 2020 against him all the time.

No- Leach was left with some very good players from Jovester- especially on the defensive side of the ball. Jovester also provided him with very good pieces in the recruiting class for 2020. Their situations were very different from a talent left to them perspective

[Coursesuper]

No- Leach was left with some very good players from Jovester- especially on the defensive side of the ball. Jovester also provided him with very good pieces in the recruiting class for 2020. Their situations were very different from a talent left to them perspective

That's true, he was left with some talent on both side of the ball. This staff had a gulf south roster last season.

[War Machine Dawg]

Robbie seems to act as if he lives in a tiny world.

Robbie is an arrogant jackass in real life. Someone close to me interacts with him often, and I've heard enough to know. Not surprised he's the same on Twitter.

[cheewgumm]

No way we should be considering firing Lebby.

We will probably win 2 more this year!

He?s putting us i to position to win.

[Santiago]

Leach did not get a spring 20 due to Covid. Then he had an SEC only season with no non conf games .
All that was used against him here for sure, in people posting and ignoring this.

[CaptainObvious]

LOL! Folks using SR to support their position. That's hilarious.

This is funny to me too. Dude looks like he hasn?t had a bath or washed his hair in 2 years, works for Genespage of all places and couldn?t get a job as a dishwasher and they take his opinions on State sports to heart. He tries to be Joe Cool Hippie from 1969 and to be impartial and objective!

Robbie is a FAN of the team he covers. He feels the same pain we do when he watches the shit show continue. Hippie Boy sucks up to whoever the coach is to get access for sure! Remember he was deeply in love with Cohens!

[CaptainObvious]

LOL! Folks using SR to support their position. That's hilarious.


Leach did not get a spring 20 due to Covid. Then he had an SEC only season with no non conf games .
All that was used against him here for sure, in people posting and ignoring this.

Yep! In the COVID year, Leach won 3 SEC games out of 10 played. Ya boy Jeffy has won 0 out of 12 he has coached in! He is a damn candidate for the MSU Hall of Fame will all these ?close? losses!

[Pancho]

and most of us wouldn't be alive if we had gone through what Steve has endured. go talk to him sometime and hear his story.

[Santiago]

and most of us wouldn't be alive if we had gone through what Steve has endured. go talk to him sometime and hear his story.

good post. The internet takes away the human element from all this.

[msstate7]

3rd year Lebby will get to essentially start over again. New QB out of the Portal. New WR corps. New DBs. New Oline. Gonna be fun rebuilding the rebuild.

Exactly. The guys that are wanted will cost a fortune to return bc players wanna win.

[confucius say]

Has anyone found a video of the "roughing the passer call"? I can't find one. TV coverage also cut off the replay before the hit happened so you never got to see it a second time live.

Watch the replay and watch when they come back from commercial when OT starts. They show it. It was touchy. Especially since the ref said "roughing the passer, second act" which I take to mean a second act after initial contact, like driving someone into the ground. There was none of that.

[msstate7]

Watch the replay and watch when they come back from commercial when OT starts. They show it. It was touchy. Especially since the ref said "roughing the passer, second act" which I take to mean a second act after initial contact, like driving someone into the ground. There was none of that.

To be fair, touchy is all it takes to get one these days. I didn't much protest from our guys

[ScooterDog]

Agree with Tater. We need to hire someone like Art B as an "analist" to help a whole lot with game management. That would take a lot of pressure off Lebby so that he could devote all of his time to OC duties and strategy. The analyst could effectively be the HC in the booth. Why not?

[Pancho]

Can the actual analysts we have now even be involved during a game?

[gtowndawg]

I spoke to someone Sunday who is a big giver. Not cigarboy giver, but he's a pretty big giver. His exact words were "I'm ready to take a step back from football after Saturday."

How many others like that (people that legit write checks that matter) are ready to cut bait with Lebby? If he goes 0-8 again, he needs to be fired, period.

[Pancho]

name 1 person who could be better in the same situation

[msstate7]

name 1 person who could be better in the same situation

I could name a 100 with the same results

[TrapGame]

I spoke to someone Sunday who is a big giver. Not cigarboy giver, but he's a pretty big giver. His exact words were "I'm ready to take a step back from football after Saturday."

How many others like that (people that legit write checks that matter) are ready to cut bait with Lebby? If he goes 0-8 again, he needs to be fired, period.

This why we can?t have nice things.

Your giver needs to pony up for more quality depth on DL and OL so we can rotate guys in so we aren?t sucking wind and tired in the fourth quarter when we need to gut one out.

Firing Lebby this year is beyond retarded. We aren?t getting a quality coach in this bloodbath. We would wind up with some G5 coordinator that really doesn?t know his ass from a whole in the ground but the morons with pitch forks and no sense demanded it.

[TrapGame]

I could name a 100 with the same results

Bullshit.

They?re just names with a fart of hope they actually workout.

[msstate7]

This why we can?t have nice things.

Your giver needs to pony up for more quality depth on DL and OL so we can rotate guys in so we aren?t sucking wind and tired in the fourth quarter when we need to gut one out.

Firing Lebby this year is beyond retarded. We aren?t getting a quality coach in this bloodbath. We would wind up with some G5 coordinator that really doesn?t know his ass from a whole in the ground but the morons with pitch forks and no sense demanded it.

I don't agree with the last paragraph, but I absolutely agree with the first part. My contribution certainly isn't buying us an all American, but I will continue to give it whoever our leaders feel should be in charge

[EdwardDrayton]

and most of us wouldn't be alive if we had gone through what Steve has endured. go talk to him sometime and hear his story.

I respect his personal story immensely and who he is as a person. His professional takes are a different arena.

[TrapGame]

I don't agree with the last paragraph, but I absolutely agree with the first part. My contribution certainly isn't buying us an all American, but I will continue to give it whoever our leaders feel should be in charge

I am a small giver too and I didn?t go to State. I want them to succeed and firing Lebby is one of the most shortsighted things this university could do at this moment.

[msstate7]

Bullshit.

They?re just names with a fart of hope they actually workout.

You don't think I could name 100 guys that would be winless in their first 12 sec games. I feel I could. Although I'd probably mess and a few (or more) would actually get 1

[TrapGame]

You don't think I could name 100 guys that would be winless in their first 12 sec games. I feel I could. Although I'd probably mess and a few (or more) would actually get 1

Winless? I didn?t read that part.

In that case, please continue.

[Saltydog]

Lebby is not getting fired. He is not getting fired for many reasons but Steve said obviously you do not fire a first time head coach that has shown vast improvement in year two. We are not replacing Lebby with an upgrade this season. The coaching market will be chaos within the next month. Other shoes are going to drop. We are a few boneheaded decisions by coaches and players from being 7-1. It?s a learning curve for Lebby and we will see what he has really learned in year three.

Now here is what got my attention. With all the chaos coming into the SEC with coaching changes that plays to our advantage to have a third year coach. And, this is huge too, the portal this season will be absolute bonkers with all the coaching turnover. Steve said we could really load up on some talented guys in the portal bc it will be saturated.

Yeah, sounds great but so will everyone else.

[BigDawg81]

SR is a tool. I take everything he says with a grain of salt. The portal will be wild as always. State needs are OL, QB,DL, CB. I hope Whitson gets a Medical Redshirt. The run defense would be a lot better with him

[gtowndawg]

This why we can?t have nice things.

Your giver needs to pony up for more quality depth on DL and OL so we can rotate guys in so we aren?t sucking wind and tired in the fourth quarter when we need to gut one out.

Firing Lebby this year is beyond retarded. We aren?t getting a quality coach in this bloodbath. We would wind up with some G5 coordinator that really doesn?t know his ass from a whole in the ground but the morons with pitch forks and no sense demanded it.

Start giving what he gives and you can start calling some shots.

[confucius say]

You don't think I could name 100 guys that would be winless in their first 12 sec games. I feel I could. Although I'd probably mess and a few (or more) would actually get 1

I think he meant that took us from where we were losing every sec game by double digits to being in every game and losing 3 of 4 at the buzzer.
I'm sure there are some. But not sure how many we could realistically get.

[1eyedog]

I?m a realist but for once in my life I?m seeing maroon......this close to Three SEC wins....not only that had the LEAD .....then it?s in our hands not the opponent. I?ve always believed put yourself in a POSITION to win.....For some reason I think Lebby is growing and learning......I like being in a position to win in a second year, now down the road it?s a problem, but DOGS were one stupid penalty away from beating the anointed one......GO DOGS.....Just thinking about Brian Kelly getting @ $210,000 every week for 5 years not working......@@@@ good work if you can get it!!!!!!!!

[msstate7]

I think he meant that took us from where we were losing every sec game by double digits to being in every game and losing 3 of 4 at the buzzer.
I'm sure there are some. But not sure how many we could realistically get.

I was just being me by pointing out the winless conf record. Yall know I can't help myself haha

[DEDawg]

This is funny to me too. Dude looks like he hasn?t had a bath or washed his hair in 2 years, works for Genespage of all places and couldn?t get a job as a dishwasher and they take his opinions on State sports to heart. He tries to be Joe Cool Hippie from 1969 and to be impartial and objective!

Robbie is a FAN of the team he covers. He feels the same pain we do when he watches the shit show continue. Hippie Boy sucks up to whoever the coach is to get access for sure! Remember he was deeply in love with Cohens!

Found Robbies burner

[TrapGame]

Start giving what he gives and you can start calling some shots.

Brother if I had the money, I would.

[msstate7]

Brother if I had the money, I would.

God help us if I win the lottery:.. our AD would quit from knowing he has to deal with me bc I open my wallet (and my mouth)

[gtowndawg]

God help us if I win the lottery:.. our AD would quit from knowing he has to deal with me bc I open my wallet (and my mouth)

Sounds like a plot like to an Adam Sandler movie.

[msstate7]

Sounds like a plot like to an Adam Sandler movie.

My part will be played by Brad Pitt

[STATEBALLIN]

People can get mad and throw a fit- but last year simply didnt count against the guy. He got here in December and had to build a staff and began working on getting some players. We had almost no talent left on the team when he arrived. We spent very little last season on a roster (compared to the rest of the SEC). Spent the year installing his system and program. Lebbo started in a hole. He had less talent for 2024 when he got here than Croom had when he arrived.

Now this season- we have improved the roster quite a bit but it still lacks depth and has some holes. We are vastly improved. This is basically his Y1. Huntzler looks like a DC now that he has some talent to work with. We just scored 38 on Texas who had only given up more than 21 once before Saturday. Yes its frustrating not to stack some wins but it is what it is.

The program is headed in the right direction. In this Era of Portal/NIL- being competitive is about all we can ask for with our wallet that we have.

This

[Mjoelner34]

People can get mad and throw a fit- but last year simply didnt count against the guy. He got here in December and had to build a staff and began working on getting some players. We had almost no talent left on the team when he arrived. We spent very little last season on a roster (compared to the rest of the SEC). Spent the year installing his system and program. Lebbo started in a hole. He had less talent for 2024 when he got here than Croom had when he arrived.

Now this season- we have improved the roster quite a bit but it still lacks depth and has some holes. We are vastly improved. This is basically his Y1. Huntzler looks like a DC now that he has some talent to work with. We just scored 38 on Texas who had only given up more than 21 once before Saturday. Yes its frustrating not to stack some wins but it is what it is.

The program is headed in the right direction. In this Era of Portal/NIL- being competitive is about all we can ask for with our wallet that we have.

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[Todd4State]

This is funny to me too. Dude looks like he hasn?t had a bath or washed his hair in 2 years, works for Genespage of all places and couldn?t get a job as a dishwasher and they take his opinions on State sports to heart. He tries to be Joe Cool Hippie from 1969 and to be impartial and objective!

Robbie is a FAN of the team he covers. He feels the same pain we do when he watches the shit show continue. Hippie Boy sucks up to whoever the coach is to get access for sure! Remember he was deeply in love with Cohens!

You don't think Rosebowl is a MSU fan?

The reality is Robby tries to be the guy that says "what everyone is thinking" but there is a price to be paid for being that guy in the world of journalism when you cover a team. The reality is most of his opinions that he has pushed really hard for at MSU have turned out very poorly.

[SPMT]

Agree with most. Lebby has brought big improvement to where we are mad at being 4-4 (rightfully so too). He has to be open to changing and learning too. A person doing a job for the first time who isn't willing to learn from mistakes is doomed to failure.

If Lebby is successful down the road here, we need to tweak his contract so he don't bolt easily. We stick with him to let him grown up on our dime, we need something in return down the road.

He has to learn or he won?t succeed.

[Coach34]

You don't think I could name 100 guys that would be winless in their first 12 sec games. I feel I could. Although I'd probably mess and a few (or more) would actually get 1

Those 100 guys wouldnt have won a mf'ing thing last year with the money given for a roster and what was left to them- thats a fact. We didnt lose 1 ****ing game last year because of coaching. Our roster was terrible.

Now this year we have improved the roster by spending some damn money but we are still spending bottom of the SEC money. Can Lebby make some better decisions? Absolutely. But we are progressing and moving forward. Last year was a throw away season by everybody. We spent Nasty Bunch/ULL money on our roster last year

[Coach34]

Couple of things:

Robbie molests collies and is a dumb ****stick. He needs to cover girls soccer and golf and then stfu.
Rosebowl is a different kind of cat but he knows sports and loves State. He and I didnt see eye to eye in the beginning simply because we hadnt had a conversation. We have since had a few convos and understand each other pretty well.

Keep funding to build depth plus keep/develop good players on campus. This is the way. Find some gems like Lame did in D-2 with the QB. They are there. Thats what analysts and other staff are for.

[RezDog7]

and most of us wouldn't be alive if we had gone through what Steve has endured. go talk to him sometime and hear his story.

Pretty easy to just not do drugs.

[Turfdawg67]

You don't think Rosebowl is a MSU fan?

The reality is Robby tries to be the guy that says "what everyone is thinking" but there is a price to be paid for being that guy in the world of journalism when you cover a team. The reality is most of his opinions that he has pushed really hard for at MSU have turned out very poorly.

He’s just (probably) 55+ years old and can’t stand how Steve looks, bottom line. Never mind what he says, how big a fan he is or how much he’s been through. I appreciate SR personally, not that I always agree with him

[PGHBulldogBG]

I really don't know much about SR, but if I recall he essentially was the one to get Freeze fired at OM with his calls to the escort service. I thought SR got himself in some trouble for that too with libel/slander even though he released the phone call...or there was some kind of drama involved. Kind of backfired on him though because Kiffin is a much better coach than Freeze, so it makes me annoyed SR wasn't smart enough to see Freeze was more a flash in the pan and not that great of a coach

[Turfdawg67]

Pretty easy to just not do drugs.

Wow. Kudos to you and your surroundings if no one has slipped and screwed up in their lives.

ETA? and if they have, I truly hope they?ve turned their life around, no matter how they dress.

[RezDog7]

Wow. Kudos to you and your surroundings if no one has slipped and screwed up in their lives.

ETA? and if they have, I truly hope they?ve turned their life around, no matter how they dress.

I don't care how he dresses or what he looks like. I can also appreciate him turning his life around. But I'm not going to feel sorry for him because he chose to do drugs and get himself in that situation. Both things can be true.

[Tater]

I don't care how he dresses or what he looks like. I can also appreciate him turning his life around. But I'm not going to feel sorry for him because he chose to do drugs and get himself in that situation. Both things can be true.

Speaking as someone who grew up poor and lost his childhood best friend at 23 to drug use (organ failure - not intentional overdose). It's not always that easy. Life affords different people different opportunities. And no this is not a comment on our skin color. I had parents who went to State and stuck together through my dad's illness. He wasn't so lucky to have a full family unit and his situation made them dirt poor.

You really don't get the influences one has unless you walk that life. Peer pressure at a young age. The disease that is addiction.

Saying it's easy to "not do drugs" - that's such a main character ass take. Not everyone walks through life like you do. Have some empathy and listen to someone else's struggle. Be better.

[Todd4State]

He’s just (probably) 55+ years old and can’t stand how Steve looks, bottom line. Never mind what he says, how big a fan he is or how much he’s been through. I appreciate SR personally, not that I always agree with him

I don't always agree with Rosebowl either, but I respect him. What he wears and looks like doesn't matter to me. I can definitely say that he is a hard worker and he has always treated me with respect.

[Todd4State]

I really don't know much about SR, but if I recall he essentially was the one to get Freeze fired at OM with his calls to the escort service. I thought SR got himself in some trouble for that too with libel/slander even though he released the phone call...or there was some kind of drama involved. Kind of backfired on him though because Kiffin is a much better coach than Freeze, so it makes me annoyed SR wasn't smart enough to see Freeze was more a flash in the pan and not that great of a coach

I get what you're saying but they also had to deal with Matt Luke after Freeze and the thing is I kind of doubt that Freeze would have been there much longer anyway. Coaches have a shorter shelf life than ever nowadays. They may very well would have hired Kiffin regardless.

After the Piss and Miss their football program has had about 6 years and running now of perfect storms that went their way outside of like the last two months of 2022. And even then, Leach passed away and it threw our program into disarray which without question helped their program as well.

[Santiago]

I get what you're saying but they also had to deal with Matt Luke after Freeze and the thing is I kind of doubt that Freeze would have been there much longer anyway. Coaches have a shorter shelf life than ever nowadays. They may very well would have hired Kiffin regardless.

After the Piss and Miss their football program has had about 6 years and running now of perfect storms that went their way outside of like the last two months of 2022. And even then, Leach passed away and it threw our program into disarray which without question helped their program as well.

Just replying to your comments, because it reminds me of a similar thought. They had a major NCAA investigation hanging over them, lost their coach out of it and hired Matt freaking Luke as HC. But they pivoted quickly with catching good on the perfect storm, but i still get irritated seeing our leadership(Cohen and others) squander at that time making good decisions after Mullen and keeping our foot on their throat. Old news, but still pisses me off the leadership we had through all this, and/or any input from meddlers that contributed to it.

[Coursesuper]

Just replying to your comments, because it reminds me of a similar thought. They had a major NCAA investigation hanging over them, lost their coach out of it and hired Matt freaking Luke as HC. But they pivoted quickly with catching good on the perfect storm, but i still get irritated seeing our leadership(Cohen and others) squander at that time making good decisions after Mullen and keeping our foot on their throat. Old news, but still pisses me off the leadership we had through all this, and/or any input from meddlers that contributed to it.

Bro were are just now beginning to get out from under that shit show.

[SPMT]

Pretty easy to just not do drugs.

Tell me you are clueless without saying you are clueless.

I guarantee someone in your family is or was an addict of some sort: booze, drugs, porn, gambling?.

If there aren?t, karma is inbound I can assure you.

[SPMT]

Just replying to your comments, because it reminds me of a similar thought. They had a major NCAA investigation hanging over them, lost their coach out of it and hired Matt freaking Luke as HC. But they pivoted quickly with catching good on the perfect storm, but i still get irritated seeing our leadership(Cohen and others) squander at that time making good decisions after Mullen and keeping our foot on their throat. Old news, but still pisses me off the leadership we had through all this, and/or any input from meddlers that contributed to it.

Ole Miss has been prepared to capitalize on opportunity more than State has for a while now. Specifically in football.

[Homedawg]

SR is a tool. I take everything he says with a grain of salt. The portal will be wild as always. State needs are OL, QB,DL, CB. I hope Whitson gets a Medical Redshirt. The run defense would be a lot better with him

Whitson is projected to be in the top 10 de in the draft so don't get your hopes up.

[msstate7]

Whitson is projected to be in the top 10 de in the draft so don't get your hopes up.

Damn. Even if he comes back, we know how it goes for a guy at that level. LSU or Georgia will love him

[DEDawg]

Whitson is projected to be in the top 10 de in the draft so don't get your hopes up.

That is shocking to me. A G5 guy who played zero SEC games?

[Coach34]

That is shocking to me. A G5 guy who played zero SEC games?

11 players from outside the P5 were drafted in the 1st 3 rounds last April

[DEDawg]

11 players from outside the P5 were drafted in the 1st 3 rounds last April

That is 11%. Just saying I?m shocked he would be a top 3 round guy without much tape this year

[shoeless joe]

i don't give a rip about how the guy dresses or looks, but if you CHOOSE to present yourself in that way then i do think you are open to some folks not being a fan. i don't like steve because i just don't like his podcast. i've got a friend who lives and dies by everything he says and when on a road trip a few years back he wanted to listen. i wasnt impressed. with the information nor what seemed to be the arrogance of which it was told. to be fair i'm not a big fan of any media personality...but for some reason i don't have a disdain for others like i do steve.

[Maroon Glasses]

Speaking as someone who grew up poor and lost his childhood best friend at 23 to drug use (organ failure - not intentional overdose). It's not always that easy. Life affords different people different opportunities. And no this is not a comment on our skin color. I had parents who went to State and stuck together through my dad's illness. He wasn't so lucky to have a full family unit and his situation made them dirt poor.

You really don't get the influences one has unless you walk that life. Peer pressure at a young age. The disease that is addiction.

Saying it's easy to "not do drugs" - that's such a main character ass take. Not everyone walks through life like you do. Have some empathy and listen to someone else's struggle. Be better.

I have been reading this board for a long time and decided to make an account a few months back but never posted. I can't say I agree with everything you post but man this is spot on. I've been down that road along with many of my friends and family members. I was able to kick the habit but so many of my friends and family are still struggling. Great people that will give you the shirt off their back but they fight a battle that no one can understand unless you have been there. Much respect for your view on this. Hail State!

[RezDog7]

Tell me you are clueless without saying you are clueless.

I guarantee someone in your family is or was an addict of some sort: booze, drugs, porn, gambling?.

If there aren?t, karma is inbound I can assure you.
Cool

[RezDog7]

Speaking as someone who grew up poor and lost his childhood best friend at 23 to drug use (organ failure - not intentional overdose). It's not always that easy. Life affords different people different opportunities. And no this is not a comment on our skin color. I had parents who went to State and stuck together through my dad's illness. He wasn't so lucky to have a full family unit and his situation made them dirt poor.

You really don't get the influences one has unless you walk that life. Peer pressure at a young age. The disease that is addiction.

Saying it's easy to "not do drugs" - that's such a main character ass take. Not everyone walks through life like you do. Have some empathy and listen to someone else's struggle. Be better.

Awesome I guess. I didn't realize all poor people do drugs because of surroundings and peer pressure. Good on him for working his way out of it.

[Thick]

When my late wife was diagnosed with cancer, Steve was very involved with organizing a fundraiser for her. He?s a good person in my book.

[DEDawg]

When my late wife was diagnosed with cancer, Steve was very involved with organizing a fundraiser for her. He?s a good person in my book.

Welp Steve has just gone up to top tier in my view. God Bless your family

[R2Dawg]

11 players from outside the P5 were drafted in the 1st 3 rounds last April

Yeah just see how many non big schools are represented on Super Bowl squads. It is pretty amazing. So much good talent goes untouched by the big schools. How OM got Chandless.

[Pancho]

Yeah just see how many non big schools are represented on Super Bowl squads. It is pretty amazing. So much good talent goes untouched by the big schools. How OM got Chandless.

saw a highlight on social media and reached out to him. they had no idea who he was

[Tater]

Awesome I guess. I didn't realize all poor people do drugs because of surroundings and peer pressure. Good on him for working his way out of it.

??? Did you just congratulate my friend for dying? What the ****. Don't bother responding. Either that's what you meant or your reading comprehension is that bad that you're not worth anyone else reading your posts again.

[Santiago]

When my late wife was diagnosed with cancer, Steve was very involved with organizing a fundraiser for her. He?s a good person in my book.

So Sorry man.
Having already had chemo and being told mine will be back in a few years...I can say I still cannot imagine what all you both went through but maybe just an ounce of understanding.

[Maroon Glasses]

When my late wife was diagnosed with cancer, Steve was very involved with organizing a fundraiser for her. He?s a good person in my book.

Much respect to anyone who does something like this. I like Steve even more now. I really hope everything turns out good for you and your family man

[TrapGame]

When my late wife was diagnosed with cancer, Steve was very involved with organizing a fundraiser for her. He?s a good person in my book.

Condolences and prayers, brother.

My wife survived breast cancer in 2013. I thank God everyday I still have her.

[Maroon Glasses]

Condolences and prayers, brother.

My wife survived breast cancer in 2013. I thank God everyday I still have her.

Truly a blessing bro. I can't imagine what people have to go through during times like that. I wish cancer would just go away

[RezDog7]

??? Did you just congratulate my friend for dying? What the ****. Don't bother responding. Either that's what you meant or your reading comprehension is that bad that you're not worth anyone else reading your posts again.

You have taken my statements way out of context. But you do you buddy. Sorry for your loss.

[EdwardDrayton]

When my late wife was diagnosed with cancer, Steve was very involved with organizing a fundraiser for her. He?s a good person in my book.

So sorry Thick. Unfortunately I know what that's like. Lost mine of 36 years to cancer last January. 34 days from finding she had it to gone. Prayers my brother.

[Coach34]

I know them both and Thick's late wife was a damn warrior. Fortunate enough to meet both of them at State thru mutual friends.

Ive always hated seeing it happen to people. Little 34's best friend's Mom has stage 4 lung cancer right now with 2 kids in HS. They have it rough right now. My family has been extremely fortunate to avoid the cancer fights for the most part- we are a heart problem family. We all have our battles- just got to keep on keepin on

[confucius say]

Pretty easy to just not do drugs.

The statistics disagree with you. 1 in 7 people have an addiction problem. And the number is really higher than that. That is the number of people who admit to it.

[confucius say]

Whitson is projected to be in the top 10 de in the draft so don't get your hopes up.

Would that make him a 4-6 rounder?

[Homedawg]

Would that make him a 4-6 rounder?

Not sure where that puts him on the big board tbh.... but it puts him in the draft for sure .....

[SpaceBully]

People can get mad and throw a fit- but last year simply didnt count against the guy. He got here in December and had to build a staff and began working on getting some players. We had almost no talent left on the team when he arrived. We spent very little last season on a roster (compared to the rest of the SEC). Spent the year installing his system and program. Lebbo started in a hole. He had less talent for 2024 when he got here than Croom had when he arrived.

Now this season- we have improved the roster quite a bit but it still lacks depth and has some holes. We are vastly improved. This is basically his Y1. Huntzler looks like a DC now that he has some talent to work with. We just scored 38 on Texas who had only given up more than 21 once before Saturday. Yes its frustrating not to stack some wins but it is what it is.

The program is headed in the right direction. In this Era of Portal/NIL- being competitive is about all we can ask for with our wallet that we have.

because that is the reason we lost to Tennessee, UF, and Texas the way we did. You have to have good quality depth late in games if you want to finish them strong. We simply did not have it. And to be honest, we probably should have lost to AZST as well. We sort of lucked out on that one.

[msstate7]

Would that make him a 4-6 rounder?

Who knows? DE is a premium position.

[DownwardDawg]

So Sorry man.
Having already had chemo and being told mine will be back in a few years...I can say I still cannot imagine what all you both went through but maybe just an ounce of understanding.

Cancer sucks so bad. I've been dealing with it since 2019. It takes a toll on the entire family. I hate it for them more than I do for me. I'm blessed to be cancer free for now thanks to the Good Lord and the folks at MD Anderson. But you're always dreading that next blood test.

Hang in there. Fight the fight!!!

[Coach34]

Cancer sucks so bad. I've been dealing with it since 2019. It takes a toll on the entire family. I hate it for them more than I do for me. I'm blessed to be cancer free for now thanks to the Good Lord and the folks at MD Anderson. But you're always dreading that next blood test.

Hang in there. Fight the fight!!!

Keep on keepin on Dawg

[DownwardDawg]

Keep on keepin on Dawg

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Coach34 again.